Tony F Posted 26 May, 2012 Posted 26 May, 2012 ...does anyone know or reckon if Saints will get an extra slice of transfer fee from Arsenal? Wasn't it £12M up front with £3M add-ons?
Stepgar Posted 26 May, 2012 Posted 26 May, 2012 Naaaa surly Cortese would say if he makes the grade pay up of **** off!
The9 Posted 26 May, 2012 Posted 26 May, 2012 I heard a rumour saying today's England appearance for Oxlade-Chamberlain made us £3.5m. It was from a mate of mine who can occasionally misread information to the point that he tells me something I already know and after about half an hour discussing it I've usually worked out what he must have read and how he must have misinterpreted it to come to that conclusion.
beatlesaint Posted 27 May, 2012 Posted 27 May, 2012 I expect there is a clause which triggers a payment after X number of either sub appearences or Y number of starts for England. There is bound to be something as there were "add ons" in the deal. Bet Arsenal didnt expect the England one to come quite so soon :-)
the colonel Posted 27 May, 2012 Posted 27 May, 2012 Nice piece on Mail on-line about AOC. especially like the caption under his photo in saints shirt: 'Talent school: Oxlade-Chamberlain is another recruit of SOUTHAMPTON'S FAMOUS ACADEMY'
NY Saint Posted 27 May, 2012 Posted 27 May, 2012 Nice piece on Mail on-line about AOC. especially like the caption under his photo in saints shirt: 'Talent school: Oxlade-Chamberlain is another recruit of SOUTHAMPTON'S FAMOUS ACADEMY' Nice spot. Here's the article. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/euro2012/article-2150451/Xavi-Andres-Iniesta-showed-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-size-important.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Ken Tone Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 I see that Alex's brother is the books of PFC's laughingly entitled 'academy'. Anyone know how old he is and if he is any good? Surely if his father has similar ambitions for him as he had for Alex, he will want him to move to us as well?
Monk Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 I see that Alex's brother is the books of PFC's laughingly entitled 'academy'. Anyone know how old he is and if he is any good? Surely if his father has similar ambitions for him as he had for Alex, he will want him to move to us as well? Mark has upset the apple cart with regards to his relationship to Southampton. It may be a factor.
doughnutman Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 I see that Alex's brother is the books of PFC's laughingly entitled 'academy'. Anyone know how old he is and if he is any good? Surely if his father has similar ambitions for him as he had for Alex, he will want him to move to us as well? Can't imagine that we'd be very keen to take him on considering Mark Chamberlains behaviour whilst AOC was here. Sent from my BlackBerry 9800 using Tapatalk
aintforever Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 Can't imagine that we'd be very keen to take him on considering Mark Chamberlains behaviour whilst AOC was here. Sent from my BlackBerry 9800 using Tapatalk If he was any good they would take him on. Being someone's brother doesn't make you good though.
SaintNeil90 Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 If he was any good they would take him on. Being someone's brother doesn't make you good though. The skates will try anything in their current situation. As another said, Marks behaviour during Alex's time here means we probably wont be dealing with him again. Very unprofessional.
aintforever Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 The skates will try anything in their current situation. As another said, Marks behaviour during Alex's time here means we probably wont be dealing with him again. Very unprofessional. Chambo's dad was a pain in the arse but his job was to get the best deal for Alex not SFC, in that respect he did a professional job. using the press to engineer a move is part of an agent's job. Saints made alot of money out of Chambo, if his brother was any good they would take him on if he wanted to be here. How his agent behaved wouldn't matter.
The9 Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 Chambo's dad was a pain in the arse but his job was to get the best deal for Alex not SFC, in that respect he did a professional job. using the press to engineer a move is part of an agent's job. Saints made alot of money out of Chambo, if his brother was any good they would take him on if he wanted to be here. How his agent behaved wouldn't matter. Given some of Cortese's offers and near-misses with players, and his reported stubbornness in transfer dealings, I'd be quite surprised if "how his agent behaved" wasn't near the top of the reasons for some of our recent non-signings.
aintforever Posted 28 May, 2012 Posted 28 May, 2012 Given some of Cortese's offers and near-misses with players, and his reported stubbornness in transfer dealings, I'd be quite surprised if "how his agent behaved" wasn't near the top of the reasons for some of our recent non-signings. Possibly. But I seriously doubt they would turn away a kid with potential because the agent might be a pain in the arse if a big club comes in with a multi-million pound offer for them.
Tony F Posted 11 June, 2012 Author Posted 11 June, 2012 Very likely only competitive matches, EU, WC. If this is right we can expect to recoup half our Jay Rodriques fee at 1945 hours this evening :-)
EBS1980 Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 If this is right we can expect to recoup half our Jay Rodriques fee at 1945 hours this evening :-) Doubt it. Will probably be something like £300K for every start for England (excl friendlies) upto 10 games IMO.
alpine_saint Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 Doubt it. Will probably be something like £300K for every start for England (excl friendlies) upto 10 games IMO. But the basic point remains that we will have got some of the J-Rod fee back by the end of this European Championship, either way...
Cricketphilly Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 Mark has upset the apple cart with regards to his relationship to Southampton. It may be a factor. If we make money out of it, it's no issue.
Dimond Geezer Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 So does anyone really know for sure ? NC & Peter Hill-Wood would know the answer & they aint tellin'.
paris Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 So yes quite possibly but how much only a close few know .....
Toomer Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 I was told a year or so ago that his brother was a better prospect than Alex at the same age.
VectisSaint Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 Doubt it. Will probably be something like £300K for every start for England (excl friendlies) upto 10 games IMO. Almost certainly only when a certain number of appearances have been reached, not an individual payment for each one.
VectisSaint Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 But the basic point remains that we will have got some of the J-Rod fee back by the end of this European Championship, either way... Doubt it. I am not ITK, but these things are usually payments when a certain number of appearances are reached, not each time he makes an appearance. I would guess it is when he has made 10 competitve appearances. So maybe we will be 30% there by end of this tournament. It is the same with domestic payments of this type, bit like why the Skates could not pay a player after so many appearances because one more game would trigger a payment to his previous club. Look for AOC being withdrawn from an England team when he is about to make his 10th (or whatever it is) appearance.
The9 Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 Possibly. But I seriously doubt they would turn away a kid with potential because the agent might be a pain in the arse if a big club comes in with a multi-million pound offer for them. No, they'd probably advise him to get a new agent.
latter day saint Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 I was told a year or so ago that his brother was a better prospect than Alex at the same age. with the skates isn't he? won't be long untill he can join the Saints then
John Boy Saint Posted 11 June, 2012 Posted 11 June, 2012 You could certainly hear his 'Ampshire Burr in his interview tonight..................... That must be worth another quid!!
BristolSaint Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 anyone else see this on the bbc website: Asked if he had spoken to watching Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger he said: No I haven't, the boss does clever things and he'll always be watching. I've got to try to impress him with every chance I get. It's been a mad year for me, but any young player could learn from what I've done. Two and a half years ago I nearly got released by Southampton, and did not get offered a scholarship never mind a professional contract not entirely sure that last bit is correct is it?
Georgie Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 anyone else see this on the bbc website: Asked if he had spoken to watching Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger he said: No I haven't, the boss does clever things and he'll always be watching. I've got to try to impress him with every chance I get. It's been a mad year for me, but any young player could learn from what I've done. Two and a half years ago I nearly got released by Southampton, and did not get offered a scholarship never mind a professional contract not entirely sure that last bit is correct is it? I saw this interview on BBC this morning and that annoyed me. I'm pretty sure two and a half years ago he was given his debut by Pardew against Huddersfield? Not nearly being released!
Thedelldays Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 I saw this interview on BBC this morning and that annoyed me. I'm pretty sure two and a half years ago he was given his debut by Pardew against Huddersfield? Not nearly being released! he was nearly released....we almost never gave him a pro contract...that is a fact
Georgie Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 he was nearly released....we almost never gave him a pro contract...that is a fact Fair enough, didn't know that.
hamster Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 I heard a rumour saying today's England appearance for Oxlade-Chamberlain made us £3.5m. It was from a mate of mine who can occasionally misread information to the point that he tells me something I already know and after about half an hour discussing it I've usually worked out what he must have read and how he must have misinterpreted it to come to that conclusion. I can see why you get on with him, so much in common..
Marsdinho Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 If he was any good they would take him on. Being someone's brother doesn't make you good though. Rod Wallace???
Marsdinho Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 That was supposed to say Ray Wallace. Ruined my own joke by backing up your theory. I must try harder.
Dimond Geezer Posted 12 June, 2012 Posted 12 June, 2012 (edited) Rod Wallace??? Ray Wallace? edit: sorry didn't see you latest post Edited 12 June, 2012 by Dimond Geezer egg on face
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