Matthew Le God Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 That doesn't answer the question. What is so special about the PL ...other than it's superior marketing division. How has the saints match day experince changed to justify the increase in ticket prices? Why are you happy to pay more to watch Lambert and co play Arsenal than cardiff? Just interested Because having the opportunity of seeing Saints beat one of Europe's top teams means more than beating Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 Because having the opportunity of seeing Saints beat one of Europe's top teams means more than beating Cardiff. Personally I'd pay more to see us stuff Cardiff than to get stuffed by Arsenal - but then thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 Personally I'd pay more to see us stuff Cardiff than to get stuffed by Arsenal - but then thats just me. what if we get stuffed by cardiff..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 Dont go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 Dont go there getting done by the double against the mighty Richdale was a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 getting done by the double against the mighty Richdale was a treat I was at both of those games. Depressing isn't the word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 I think it really does depend on where you sit as to how happy/annoyed you are with the pricing. My ST in the Northam went from £540 last season to £575. A student ticket in the same area £440 last season to £475 this. Very happy with that. how come you paid £540 when they were £460 last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 Prices are not a million miles of what they were when we were last in the Prem from memory. Unfortunately it is supply and demand. Up 20 to 25% by my reckoning. If I can be bothered I'll dig out what I paid over the last 10 or 15 seasons. The prices seem high by comparison to many PL clubs of a similar standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 how come you paid £540 when they were £460 last year? Had to give up my ST second League 1 season as worked abroad, so last year I had to pay "new" price of £540. Fine, this year I'm entitled to the renewal discount unlike last year, but even if I wasn't it would only be £60 more then last season. That's easily spent on one night out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 May, 2012 Share Posted 24 May, 2012 I'm not surprised by the price hike, however I didn't think I would be paying £175 more for the same seat watching the same team in fewer games. I had thought about £100 increase would be about right compared to other similar clubs. I think the issue for my ticket is that I am now sitting in a 'premium' seat - central Kingsland - so the club think I deserve to be rogered for the extra. Bit disappointing to be taken for a mug, but let's face it, if we stay up it will probably have been worth it and if we go down, we can look forward to cheaper seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareham saint phil Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Its the price of success, I'm going to find it hard to get me and my lad an ST, BUT I'm glad we are in the prem and have the chance to see us up against some of the best players/teams in europe. Think anyone can find fault in prices/concessions/terms etc, me i dont like the £50 per ticket on the installment plan, but if thats the way i have to go then I will do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 We love where we sit with friendly people around us as we know them from season to season and it adds to the matchday experience to catch up their news and views on life ,the manager's tactics , a player who has done us no favours , and we look forward to this season ,but was a little shocked to find the ticket price this year for my 11 year old grandchild is £695,that is going to have to be a very big piggy-bank ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Sit somewhere cheaper. The prices are very reasonable. There are people dying in the world. Hello and welcome! 100%. And if we did adopt Wigan's pricing structure and spent the whole season praying for a win, I bet this place would be full of humility that the Chairman had delivered them 'value for money'... If you spend £1 on football you are a wealthy man. Because all over the world people do not have a penny to spend on food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Hello and welcome! 100%. And if we did adopt Wigan's pricing structure and spent the whole season praying for a win, I bet this place would be full of humility that the Chairman had delivered them 'value for money'... If you spend £1 on football you are a wealthy man. Because all over the world people do not have a penny to spend on food. Yeah, but we're labelled nutjobs for highlighting that there are more important things in life than the price of a football ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Yeah, but we're labelled nutjobs for highlighting that there are more important things in life than the price of a football ticket... Show me one post on here that are saying there aren't more important things in life than the price of a football ticket? Or anyone calling you I nutjob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I earn loads. Might buy 2 seats so I can put my burger down next to me. Tell you what, you have the burger, and I'll buy a seat for the bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I go with my son (u17 concession) and Dad (OAP concession) and we are planning to relocate across a block or two as the central Kingsland is now premium. I figure a slightly less central view is worth it for a saving of more than £450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Please do not point that out Block 20 is the preserve of the old boys club Definitely don't want to move into Block 20, some very strange people sit there............ please go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beancounter saint Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 We love where we sit with friendly people around us as we know them from season to season and it adds to the matchday experience to catch up their news and views on life ,the manager's tactics , a player who has done us no favours , and we look forward to this season ,but was a little shocked to find the ticket price this year for my 11 year old grandchild is £695,that is going to have to be a very big piggy-bank ! Yes, it was this that was the big price hike as far as I could see - no concessions in the "premium" areas. Fortunately we're one block away in Block 5 but I think would have been moving otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I earn loads. Might buy 2 seats so I can put my burger down next to me. You earn loads and yet you buy burgers? Are they made from Kobe beef with a topping of Imperial Beluga caviar? If you're talking the burgers bought from the concourse, I'm going to be hugely unimpressed that you would buy a spare seat to accommodate that junk, even as a display of gratuitous wealth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Oar Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I have not been able to afford a season ticket for 8 years now (which, coincidentally is the age of my eldest son) but since he is now into football, we attended about 15 home games last season. I was paying £19 which, I agree, was a good deal especially with the quality on show (except v Leicester). When my youngest came with us it was £29 (for 3 tickets). Next year I envisage it costing the 2 of us c. £42 for a home game in the Family Stand (this is based on new ST prices with installments plan). That is too much of a hike for us and unfortunately we will be attending less now my boy has just got into it. Unfortunate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Anybody with any class would buy four seats so they could stretch out and doze during the dull bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 To be fair, my Facebook / Twitter is rammed full of people I didn't even know were Saints fans til' about 3 months ago, when it looked like we really might go up. There will be TONNES of JCL's buying ST's for either the first time, or the first time in ages, just because we are back in the Prem. If we want to be a top club and have the best players surely we should be pleased we are attracting new fans as we will need them to succeed. Also surely if we are watching better players we must expect to pay the market price just as we would expect to pay more in a top restaurant using more expensive ingredients than in a local cafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 a fair chunk of the chapel is colour coded as pretty cheap to renew..? not in a "narrow wing"...? and when the hell was the last time we had a 10,000 home gate in a league game..? 1993 ..? during branfoot protest.? Let's just say the last time we AVERAGED (statistical mean, FFS) under 10,000 in a season was 1935. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I have not been able to afford a season ticket for 8 years now (which, coincidentally is the age of my eldest son) but since he is now into football, we attended about 15 home games last season. I was paying £19 which, I agree, was a good deal especially with the quality on show (except v Leicester). When my youngest came with us it was £29 (for 3 tickets). Next year I envisage it costing the 2 of us c. £42 for a home game in the Family Stand (this is based on new ST prices with installments plan). That is too much of a hike for us and unfortunately we will be attending less now my boy has just got into it. Unfortunate? How much is an ST for you and the two kids, given that one is free and the other £100 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 How much is an ST for you and the two kids, given that one is free and the other £100 ? Neither kid will be free now, he'd need another adult to get a free child ticket. So cheapest would be £495 for the adult ticket plus £100x2, so £695. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Neither kid will be free now, he'd need another adult to get a free child ticket. So cheapest would be £495 for the adult ticket plus £100x2, so £695. Good point - though it might be worth roping in another adult who was getting one anyway in order to drop the cost overall, that way it would be £495+£100 for his 3 and £495 for the other person... with maybe some kind of sweetener for the random other adult pushing the cost up further slightly. Doing it that way has to be better than £42 on an adhoc basis if you plan on attending more than 12 home matches. Not that £42 for an adult and two kids is actually expensive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Neither kid will be free now, he'd need another adult to get a free child ticket. So cheapest would be £495 for the adult ticket plus £100x2, so £695. That's still pretty good value I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Right, it's my turn now. Football is entertainment, it's a luxury not a way of live nor a necessity. I enjoy games and I also enjoy the cinema, If I can't afford to go to the game, I watch the highlights on TV and listen to the radio, which Haveing to work away, I have learnt to enjoy. When I couldn't afford to go to the cinema, I rented a video/DVD and bought popcorn from Asda. We are also back in the Premiership, we arn't the most expensive, nor are we the cheapest, but as costs go up, so does the need to increase revenue. We could always drop our prices to L1 level, and look to sell our best players and go back to L1, then you'll be able to go again. Or we could try and play on a level playing field with everyone else, but still be solvent so we don't go bust again. Marcus was a god send, and we were lucky, I don't see another Marcus anywhere else, so we need to ensure we don't **** up again financially. The money needs to come from somewhere, and I don't think we should ask the Liebherrs to finanace us solely without proving we are financiually stable. We COULD ask them to buy all of us a season ticket, then 33,0000 of us could go for free. But what about the half time drink? They could pay that. And the running costs, the wage bill, the overheads, the police, you gte the idea. And how long before we're sold? Don't get me wrong, I do sympathise, as sometimes it is 120 minutes that I get to spend with my daughter where I can be totally anonymous, without any one wanting something from me,( apart from a pie and hot chocolate at half time for my little one) and i don't have to sort out someones problems, or worry about the state of the world. My daughter enjoys it as it's 120 minutes she can spend with me as she don't see much of me in the week, and she can get me all to herself and, unlike other public places, people are so nice and friendly to her there she feels. But with the additional spend I don't think I can maintain the attendance we had over the years. So, in conclusion: - I feel your pain, but what can we do, that's economics - Everyone else is doing it in the league, and we need to too - SMS comes into my budget after feeding my family, putting a roof over their heads, clothing them, ensuring they are safe, and they will be looked after if anything happens to me, but before the cinema, sky TV, computer games, new mobile phones, trips to adveture parks, holidays and that nice smoke glass coffee table in Ikea. - There are other ways to follow the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 (edited) To be fair, my Facebook / Twitter is rammed full of people I didn't even know were Saints fans til' about 3 months ago, when it looked like we really might go up. There will be TONNES of JCL's buying ST's for either the first time, or the first time in ages, just because we are back in the Prem. No "might" about it, I know of at least 5 ex-Saints fans from 2004/5 who are suddenly Saints fans again, bearing in mind that basically everyone I know in Southampton is through football in the first place, because I have no family ties here and even come here for the first time until I was 18. Football is my main interest though, so I'll prioritise so that I get my ST. Edited 25 May, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 If we want to be a top club and have the best players surely we should be pleased we are attracting new fans as we will need them to succeed. Also surely if we are watching better players we must expect to pay the market price just as we would expect to pay more in a top restaurant using more expensive ingredients than in a local cafe. We don't need any proper fans at all to succeed, just a load of people buying Saints-related junk all over the world and pretending to like us when we win (they don't even have to do that bit). Match day attendance revenue pales into comparison to tv money, and the likes of Man U make shedloads more from global branding, which has nothing to do with match attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 We don't need any proper fans at all to succeed, just a load of people buying Saints-related junk all over the world and pretending to like us when we win (they don't even have to do that bit). Match day attendance revenue pales into comparison to tv money, and the likes of Man U make shedloads more from global branding, which has nothing to do with match attendance. Agreed but without new fans whever they may be nobody will buy the junk and the interest of TV will wane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 [How much is an ST for you and the two kids, given that one is free and the other £100 ? Only free if you have 2 paying adults now last season it was one free with each paying adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Agreed but without new fans whever they may be nobody will buy the junk and the interest of TV will wane. Yes, but do you think we'll get more fans by selling affordable STs to a maximum of 30,000 people or by being decent / entertaining on tv to a massive global audience and having products they want to buy which are easily available to them ? The only threat to the massive global tv market shared by all Prem clubs is the Prem clubs themselves performing a huge U-turn and suddenly voting for clubs to have individual tv rights, and even Man U supported collective rights in the last vote. TV interest won't wane, the Premier League brand is unique and has a foothold everywhere as a market leader. All that will happen is that the Prem will just find new ways of delivering the Premier League to consumers who want to see it (eg charging for web streams). The threat to that global revenue is free illegal streams, and illegal streaming hasn't impacted on the global tv deals yet. Whether we sell 30,000 STs or not is irrelevant within the bigger picture, much more money can be made from building brand loyalty with the proportion of the other 6 billion people out there who might be seeing Saints again suddenly. Long and short of it, the fan in the ground is only the main revenue source outside the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Agreed but without new fans whever they may be nobody will buy the junk and the interest of TV will wane. people have been saying this for a decade now...that the bubble will burst..yet, year up on year, it does not. when a season ends like ti did a few weeks ago...both at the top and bottom of the league...it just adds more and more fans to the premier league you can see why, La Liga had barcelone finish 2nd...something like 30 points ahead of 3rd.... where in the prem, you have world super stars fighting it out to the very last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Last season my old student card ran out end of September, but the season ticket is sold at concession price at point of sale (not life of the ticket) so as long as you can prove you are enrolled on June 6th when they go on sale they will sell at concession rate I have to do the same this year (still a student thankfully) Cheers Ping, that is what I wanted to hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Whether we sell 30,000 STs or not is irrelevant within the bigger picture, much more money can be made from building brand loyalty with the proportion of the other 6 billion people out there who might be seeing Saints again suddenly. Long and short of it, the fan in the ground is only the main revenue source outside the Premier League. Its not irrelevant. Attendances at the ground might not be the biggest earner in the EPL but you need full grounds to complete the illusion of it being the worlds most in demand sport. Millions of people in China and other developing nations will question why the should be paying to watch on tv from thousands of miles away if the game isnt attractive or populalr enough to persuade 32,400 local residents to show up in person on a Sautrday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I've not commented on the prices thus far, and apologise if it has already been put elsewhere, but I haven't noticed anyone with this view so far. Basically, I can see that ticket prices were going to increase, but, why so much? Let me put it out there first off 'I can afford the ticket and I will be purchasing my old seat again', however, I believe that at the moment these tickets have gone one sale, can someone explain to me, apart from the additional £90mill we have inherited from promotion, why costs have risen by almost 50% so the club feels it is necessary to increase prices by this much and in some places, much much more? To all intense and purpose we are still a league 1 team. Most of our players were acquired then. Some were brought in during the 1 season championship campaign and also, we have allowed some to leave, Jaidi, Holmes etc. So, where's the extra money gone? Are we spending more than £90million on a new signing? Sure, maybe 3 or 4, but £90mill? that's at least 4 £10mill players plus wages. The training facilities were already under way and in scope, the stadium is already 'improved', where is this additional 3mill going to go? And that's at least £3mill extra on season tickets? So, my question is, why such an increase when the additional money covers our increased overheads plus a couple of 10million pound + players, and the increase of ST subscription, particularly if prices only increased a small amount, would be more than adequate. Why the need? Is it champions league we are aiming for, because that's what it looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 I've not commented on the prices thus far, and apologise if it has already been put elsewhere, but I haven't noticed anyone with this view so far. Basically, I can see that ticket prices were going to increase, but, why so much? Let me put it out there first off 'I can afford the ticket and I will be purchasing my old seat again', however, I believe that at the moment these tickets have gone one sale, can someone explain to me, apart from the additional £90mill we have inherited from promotion, why costs have risen by almost 50% so the club feels it is necessary to increase prices by this much and in some places, much much more? To all intense and purpose we are still a league 1 team. Most of our players were acquired then. Some were brought in during the 1 season championship campaign and also, we have allowed some to leave, Jaidi, Holmes etc. So, where's the extra money gone? Are we spending more than £90million on a new signing? Sure, maybe 3 or 4, but £90mill? that's at least 4 £10mill players plus wages. The training facilities were already under way and in scope, the stadium is already 'improved', where is this additional 3mill going to go? And that's at least £3mill extra on season tickets? So, my question is, why such an increase when the additional money covers our increased overheads plus a couple of 10million pound + players, and the increase of ST subscription, particularly if prices only increased a small amount, would be more than adequate. Why the need? Is it champions league we are aiming for, because that's what it looks like? To pay the wages of the players we will now need to employ to be competitive in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 So, my question is, why such an increase when the additional money covers our increased overheads plus a couple of 10million pound + players, and the increase of ST subscription, particularly if prices only increased a small amount, would be more than adequate. Why the need? Is it champions league we are aiming for, because that's what it looks like? Saints are around 10th/11th out of the 20 Premier League teams, they have put themselves in midtable in terms of prices. Yes, it is a lot of money to watch 22 men kick a ball around a field, but it really isn't out of line with its competitors in the world's most high profile sports league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted 25 May, 2012 Share Posted 25 May, 2012 Renewals should have been a bit cheaper. Didn't a club give out free season tickets to existing holders a few years back when they got to the premier league? Someone like Burnley I think. Anyway I certainly can't afford it when I factor in travel costs from London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 29 May, 2012 Share Posted 29 May, 2012 What exactly is the situation regarding non ST holders getting tickets next season? I take it there's no membership scheme anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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