terrasaint Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 That have not yet announced Season ticket prices for next season according to Sky Sports News. Good to have the money in our Bank accounts, but would be nice to know!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I agree would be nice to know. I also hope they re-introduce memberships or another affiliation type programme, so those that can't get to every game or afford a season ticket still have a way of maintaining a link and a foot in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 It's ok because we're doing it the Southampton way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 That have not yet announced Season ticket prices for next season according to Sky Sports News. Good to have the money in our Bank accounts, but would be nice to know!!!! i expect most people are working on a last season+20% basis though,seems a reasonable sort of amount to put aside.Wouldn't doubt that there'll be plenty of clents for the new staged payments system as well..if it gets introduced that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 It's ok because we're doing it the Southampton way. You beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I would hope that the prices are imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 The dates were announced on the big screen during the Coventry game. Middle of june for Renewals, and middle of July for new - someone did write it up with the exact dates. Prices will be announced a week or a few days before the renewals I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 The dates were announced on the big screen during the Coventry game. Middle of june for Renewals, and middle of July for new - someone did write it up with the exact dates. Prices will be announced a week or a few days before the renewals I'd have thought. 6th of June was the date of renewals so it wouldn't surprise me if they announce prices on the 5th June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 You beat me to it. The other 19 clubs are doing it wrong. They'll soon see the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Surely would have made sense to cash in on the feel good factor after promotion to announce them as early as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Nicola out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Surely would have made sense to cash in on the feel good factor after promotion to announce them as early as possible As previously discussed on here, we can only assume it's done as they know they'll still sell out each game, so would rather that's done on individual ticket sales rather than a large percentage of that being season ticket holders, as they'll generate more matchday revenue that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 As previously discussed on here, we can only assume it's done as they know they'll still sell out each game, so would rather that's done on individual ticket sales rather than a large percentage of that being season ticket holders, as they'll generate more matchday revenue that way. So that's good, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 As previously discussed on here, we can only assume it's done as they know they'll still sell out each game, so would rather that's done on individual ticket sales rather than a large percentage of that being season ticket holders, as they'll generate more matchday revenue that way. Suits me. I cant get away enough to make a season ticket wothwhile but will still want to see a big number of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 So that's good, yes? For the club, yes. For the thousands of us season ticket holders who stuck with the club in it's darkest hours, not so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 For the club, yes. For the thousands of us season ticket holders who stuck with the club in it's darkest hours, not so. You want some kind of reward for going to football matches and drinking beer on a Saturday, on top of the discount you already had for a season ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Surely would have made sense to cash in on the feel good factor after promotion to announce them as early as possible A big name signing would generate a similar level of feel good factor one would assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 it's a joke this delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 (edited) As previously discussed on here, we can only assume it's done as they know they'll still sell out each game, so would rather that's done on individual ticket sales rather than a large percentage of that being season ticket holders, as they'll generate more matchday revenue that way. Though it'd be a strange tactic. I'm sure if people are determined to renew or get in early they won't be throwing themselves into the Itchen about having to wait a couple of weeks more to find out the cost. Mind you, there are some proper weirdos on here. If people living hand-to-mouth need to know then it's not as if we can't guess at a ballpark figure. It'll be an average price of what, £35 for an adult ticket per match in the goals/wings? A new season ticket last year was 87% of the price of buying tickets at full price, renewals were 75%. So it wouldn't be an unreasonable assumption that renewals will be around £500 and new purchases £580. Obviously adjust that figure to more if you sit on the halfway line or less/significantly less if you're in the concession bracket/sit in the family section. Edited 22 May, 2012 by ant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Surely would have made sense to cash in on the feel good factor after promotion to announce them as early as possible Exactly the same point was made last year! Nicola doesn't seem to worry too muhc about selling season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Why does anyone actually care? If you know you're getting a season ticket then you will get one regardless of when the price is announced of not. Not necessarily. I can envisage some who perhaps saved the money being nagged to buy a new cooker, pay for a holiday, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Why does anyone actually care? If you know you're getting a season ticket then you will get one regardless of when the price is announced of not. That's 100% true, is it? In every single case? We don't miss out on any sales, at all, by keeping it all hush hush and then providing a short window for sales? There's a damned good reason that season tickets go on sale early at every other club; not only to get the money in the bank, but also to maximise sales. Being as we haven't got a bottomless pit of money and are competing against other clubs with much more resource than us, its a legitimate question to ask why we aren't trying to maximise our sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 That's 100% true, is it? In every single case? We don't miss out on any sales, at all, by keeping it all hush hush and then providing a short window for sales? There's a damned good reason that season tickets go on sale early at every other club; not only to get the money in the bank, but also to maximise sales. Being as we haven't got a bottomless pit of money and are competing against other clubs with much more resource than us, its a legitimate question to ask why we aren't trying to maximise our sales. Really? Are there many of these clubs? We seem to be the only Premiership club that hasn't been in a mad tearing hurry to get the money in. Does that suggest to you that we are a club with less resources than many others? I would have thought that logically it was suggestive of the opposite position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Really? Are there many of these clubs? We seem to be the only Premiership club that hasn't been in a mad tearing hurry to get the money in. Does that suggest to you that we are a club with less resources than many others? I would have thought that logically it was suggestive of the opposite position. Sorry yes. I should have noticed that the reason we're not selling season tickets yet is actually indicative of the the fact that we are richer than the likes of Man United, Man City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, Everton, Sunderland, and all of the rest. They are only selling tickets now as they are desperate for the cash. We on the other hand don't need that income. That can be the only logical reason that we haven't sold season tickets yet and won't for another 3 or 4 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Sorry yes. I should have noticed that the reason we're not selling season tickets yet is actually indicative of the the fact that we are richer than the likes of Man United, Man City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, Everton, Sunderland, and all of the rest. They are only selling tickets now as they are desperate for the cash. We on the other hand don't need that income. That can be the only logical reason that we haven't sold season tickets yet and won't for another 3 or 4 weeks. You can't conclude that those other clubs are desperate for the cash necessarily, but it is at least indicative that we are not in desperate need of it. And yes, our owners are wealthier than some of those at clubs you mentioned. Personally, as a ST holder of many years, I'm quite happy that I'll be able to keep the money in my bank account for a bit longer. I really don't know why some are getting their knickers in a twist about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 If Reading have already announced ST prices, and their window for new business is earlier than ours, we could potentially lose a few ST holders from the Basingstoke area to them. If they are just floating fans who want to watch Premiership football. I'm not suggesting this is likely to be a very large number, and we could argue that these are the kind of 'fans' we could do without in the stadium, but it's all extra £££ potentially lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 You want some kind of reward for going to football matches and drinking beer on a Saturday, on top of the discount you already had for a season ticket? Timothy, where have I stated I want a reward? I just want the prices to be announced. As a 'customer' willing to part with hundreds of pounds of my hard earned, is that really too much to ask? Every other club in the league has managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Timothy, where have I stated I want a reward? I just want the prices to be announced. As a 'customer' willing to part with hundreds of pounds of my hard earned, is that really too much to ask? Every other club in the league has managed it. It was the moving way you had "stuck with the club in it's darkest hours" that brought a tear to my eye. You reminded me of Cathy calling plaintively on the moors. Yes of course you deserve to know the season ticket prices. If announcing the prices late means that a few less are sold to the many thousands of new supporters who just want to see EPL football and a few more match by match tickets are available to long term fans who also stuck with the club in its darkest hours and live hundreds of miles away / work many weekends / have family committments or other reasons they cant attend every match - so much the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 You can't conclude that those other clubs are desperate for the cash necessarily, but it is at least indicative that we are not in desperate need of it. And yes, our owners are wealthier than some of those at clubs you mentioned. Personally, as a ST holder of many years, I'm quite happy that I'll be able to keep the money in my bank account for a bit longer. I really don't know why some are getting their knickers in a twist about it. Its not indicative of anything, other than it is a strange business practise completely at odds with all of our rivals for which no reasonable reason can be put forward for why the club sgould act in this manner as a sound business methodology. I also like to think most of our fan base are able to comprehend the distinction between our owners' wealth and the football club's wealth; but given your post, perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 There is a (cynical) argument which is: 1 - Cortese reckons/knows that every game is going to be sold out this season (give or take) 2 - a season ticket holder brings in less revenue than 19x separate tickets 3 - a short season ticket window allows those who already definitely wanted a season ticket to get one (people on this board for example), whilst discouraging (just by making it a bit more awkward) those who are on the fence about it 4 - Profit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 How many years will the clubs policy of not releasing prices until June have to be in place before we can stop having the exact same argument about it every time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 How many years will the clubs policy of not releasing prices until June have to be in place before we can stop having the exact same argument about it every time? Maybe until it makes sense to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 How many years will the clubs policy of not releasing prices until June have to be in place before we can stop having the exact same argument about it every time? Until they stop it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Its not indicative of anything, other than it is a strange business practise completely at odds with all of our rivals for which no reasonable reason can be put forward for why the club sgould act in this manner as a sound business methodology. I also like to think most of our fan base are able to comprehend the distinction between our owners' wealth and the football club's wealth; but given your post, perhaps not. I would assume that if we were desperate for the money, that we would have launched the season ticket sales some time ago. You draw your own conclusions as to why we have not done it, although I doubt that you have any more idea as to the reasoning than anybody else. Frankly, I couldn't give a damn whether we are supposedly out of step with other clubs. Would you go as far as to say that the club was badly run, because we did things differently to the others? As to your insinuation that I don't understand the distinction between our owners' wealth and the football club's wealth, I understand readily enough that we are not run on the basis of others, who have massive amounts of leveraged debt and that were our owners to pull out, we would not be in the same parlous state of some of those clubs with wealthy owners. I suggest that the amount of money raised by the early sale of STs is miniscule in the scale of things and doesn't appear to bother our Chairman and his backers. So from that point of view, it reflects that having wealthy owners does impact on the club's financial position. Likewise, we do not have to sell players if we don't want to like we had to previously, unless it is for a silly price. Conversely we are able to think in terms of stadium expansion and investment in the academy and training facilities beyond anything before in our history. If you think that this situation has little to do with the wealth of our owners, then fine, carry on believing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 lol. We are in the Premier League. Still hasn't sunk in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I would assume that if we were desperate for the money, that we would have launched the season ticket sales some time ago. You draw your own conclusions as to why we have not done it, although I doubt that you have any more idea as to the reasoning than anybody else. Frankly, I couldn't give a damn whether we are supposedly out of step with other clubs. Would you go as far as to say that the club was badly run, because we did things differently to the others? By that token, do you assume that every other club (i.e. all of them in this division) are desperate for money, and that is why they have put season tickets on sale already? The fact that we do things differently to everyone else doesn't mean that we're pioneering, or guarantee that we're right. It doesn't in itself suggest the club is badly run either. It does make season tickets more difficult to purchase, that is for sure, and can probably be argued that season ticket sales are diminished to some extent. People can make up their own minds whether that's good business sense or not; offset against whatever potential reason they wish to choose for this tactic of a reduced sales window. I could care less about the way we sell season tickets. I cared when the payment plan was suddenly reduced a couple of years ago wihtout warning, because it made it more difficult for some fans to buy an ST, and left others unable to do so. I would like the club to show sustainable growth and the ability to outgrow its own surroundings; and I consider season ticket sales to be a very good benchmark of whether that's possible. So I'd like to see the number of sales maximised. But in general, I'd just like to see buying tickets for the club made just a little bit easier; its not exactly hard, admittedly, but the fact the club goes out of its way to keep a veil of secrecy around things in the face of all other clubs being thoroughly accessible is (to me anyway) an off-putting sales tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Someone must have a scooby? There must be marketing materials being prepared, business planning meetings minutes of which are taken... I mean someone could just post a number on here... or PM me and I will... It would be good to know how much I have to steal from the wife's housekeeping soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I've heard they are doing the gold, silver, bronze thing - but that was obvious anyway. I see no logical reason for not selling STs yet, surely the longer they are on sale the more they will sell. I can't see how the reverse could be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Maybe until it makes sense to do so? The very fact they are doing it again this year means it clearly does make sense to the club. Just because they haven't explained it to you personally doesn't mean it does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 ... would anyone say that given we were late annoucing ST rates last season, a huge wave of fans missed out on an ST? Did they feck, those that want one will get one, those that can't afford it will not - whether announced in April or June... we have owners who dont foolow the traditonal pattern... and er, so the traditional pattern is always right? I can actually see Dune now, being beaten by his missus/GF/BF/mother, telling him unless he knows exactly the cost of his ST by the end of May, the money he has not saved (because he wants the installment plan) will be claimed for the week in Benidorm instead... FFS some of you sound like kids on this. 1. If you cant afford it, well **** thats life 2. if you have not predicted that around this time of year you may be needing to shell out between £500-£700 notes on an ST if you want one, well you must be feckin .... (insert on appropriate word for thick as shiedt) 3. The club is not desperate for ST revenue to keep it going over the summer and it sees maximising non-st sales as the best way of maximising revenue whilst we have our 32K limit which - loyalty to those who stuck by during the dark days? What of those who boycotted during the dark days, and what the feck has that got to do with NC? STs will be available to ALL who wnat one so why worry? Its not as if there will be a cap... apart from one imposed by capacity... but those whio say this wont be a problem... are the ones so worried about this... you guys are as transparent as fricken glass when to comes to NC... Do you want to go next season? Yes, do you expect a discount on renewal of your ST? Yes - you will get one. Can you use this as another pathetic griep about NC even though it has feck all baring on anything? Seems so... Jeez..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Do you want to go next season? Yes' date=' do you expect a discount on renewal of your ST? Yes - you will get one. Can you use this as another pathetic griep about NC even though it has feck all baring on anything? Seems so... Jeez.....[/quote'] Who has used this as a gripe against Cortese in this thread? Apart from one other poster mentioning his name, you're the only one to bring him into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Who has used this as a gripe against Cortese in this thread? Apart from one other poster mentioning his name, you're the only one to bring him into it. I dont believe you are that naive Kracken - your posts suggest you are not anyway. Some on here have an issue with NC, fair enough, everyone entitled and all that. Buts its perhaps more honest to be upfront about - it shows more balls and integrity f those with an issue simply state it and get one with tehir point - threads on here are littered with subtle and some not so subtle digs - it just gets tedious/boring. The problem thes efolk have its that its a bit tricky giving NC a kicking after 2 promotions in 2 years...so it gets to desperation about ST sales timing, signing, rumour on Adkins... Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 . 3. The club is not desperate for ST revenue to keep it going over the summer and it sees maximising non-st sales as the best way of maximising revenue whilst we have our 32K limit That could be the case, it would mean we wold have to sell out virtually every game to make it worthwhile. We may do I suppose. Getting a ST usually works out as getting one game free. If I didn't get one I would probably miss way more due to various reasons (holiday, can't be arsed to watch Wigan etc) so the club would definitely get more cash from me with a season ticket. I can see the club's way of thinking but feel they may be losing out a very small amount. I suppose as were loaded now it doesn't matter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Saints and Reading had similar prices in 2011/12 in the Championship. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14367357 Similar again in the Premier League? Prices for 2012/13 in the Premier League at Reading FC (they have sold 15,000 so far)... Season tickets Lower west, east and north stands: Adults £525, 16 & under £150, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £330 Upper west stand: Adults £595, 16 & under £200, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £400 Match ticket prices 2012/13 Lower west, east, north and south stands: Adults £32, 16 & under £15, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £23 Upper west stand: Adults £35, 16 & under £20, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £25 Gold match ticket prices*: Lower west, east, north and south stands: Adults £40, 16 & under £20, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £30 Upper west stand: Adults £45, 16 & under £25, concessions (65 & overs and 17-21s) £35 http://www.readingfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10306~2772925,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I dont believe you are that naive Kracken - your posts suggest you are not anyway. Some on here have an issue with NC, fair enough, everyone entitled and all that. Buts its perhaps more honest to be upfront about - it shows more balls and integrity f those with an issue simply state it and get one with tehir point - threads on here are littered with subtle and some not so subtle digs - it just gets tedious/boring. The problem thes efolk have its that its a bit tricky giving NC a kicking after 2 promotions in 2 years...so it gets to desperation about ST sales timing, signing, rumour on Adkins... Jeez. Sorry, I don't buy that. Most people (myself included) can recognise the many good things the club have done, whilst also asking questions of what seems to be a very questionable method of selling season tickets. This is not an effort to undermine the club, or the CEO, for goodness sake. I'll happily admit its a very minor issue in the grand scheme of things. But I see nothing wrong at all with asking some pertinent questions about why the club are so determined to pursue a method of sales so out of kilter with the market norm (i.e. every single one of our league rivals). Why the club are insistent upon following a sales method for which it is very difficult to identify the benefits of from purely a business point of view. And one which clearly (and needlessly) affects/annoys/infuriates to some degree a section (however minor) of the potential customer base, and which clearly can be seen could negatively affect sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry the Badger Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Getting a ST usually works out as getting one game free. If I didn't get one I would probably miss way more due to various reasons (holiday, can't be arsed to watch Wigan etc) so the club would definitely get more cash from me with a season ticket.. Um, what? My season ticket was £465 last year. Individual match tickets were £27. I would've got 17 matches for the same money, and that's being generous and ignoring the booking fee! Even if I'd had to pay the 'New' price that's still only 20 matches, which is 3 free games, again ignoring the booking fee you would probably be regularly paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Reading's concession prices are good. £330 for the North, East and Lower West is £45 less than what I paid this season for Championship football. Fair play to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Um, what? My season ticket was £465 last year. Individual match tickets were £27. I would've got 17 matches for the same money, and that's being generous and ignoring the booking fee! Even if I'd had to pay the 'New' price that's still only 20 matches, which is 3 free games, again ignoring the booking fee you would probably be regularly paying. That works out better then, I always thought when we were in the Prem it worked out as just the one free. We find out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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