Amazing Hangover Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 He is still here? How? Why? Does he know where bodies are buried? (only sort of kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Why are so many people obssessed with our third choice keeper? Just because he's probably on a few more quid than he should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Collegue at work was in marbella (early May) staying at same hotel as players - she said they were all good lads but singled out two players! 1) Dan Seaborne - said he was really funny, really nice and played cards all week 2) Forecast - said he drunk "non stop" and was a complete sleaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 He is on a 5 year contact wwhich means another year to run, in my estimation. You can't release a player in the middle of a contract unless you buy him out, and that hasn't been the policy at SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Why are so many people obssessed with our third choice keeper? Just because he's probably on a few more quid than he should be? Because he is now our 2nd choice keeper and is of such poor quality that he struggled to make it into a non-league team regularly. It seems ridiculous that we continue to pay a player who has no business calling himself a professional footballer, had no hope of getting a game for us when we were in League One, let alone now we are in the PL. People cannot understand why we continue to employ him, when it is perfectly possible to pay up his contract. As the OP questioned, is there something he knows that means we cannot pay him off? A final reminder of the bad old days of Lowe, how could anyone give a player of this ability a 5 year contract? Only Lowe knows I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Because he is now our 2nd choice keeper and is of such poor quality that he struggled to make it into a non-league team regularly. It seems ridiculous that we continue to pay a player who has no business calling himself a professional footballer, had no hope of getting a game for us when we were in League One, let alone now we are in the PL. People cannot understand why we continue to employ him, when it is perfectly possible to pay up his contract. As the OP questioned, is there something he knows that means we cannot pay him off? A final reminder of the bad old days of Lowe, how could anyone give a player of this ability a 5 year contract? Only Lowe knows I guess. for about a month I should imagine we have and will have plenty of players in his bracket...none of which, will get as much attention...it is more of a lowe thing....shame people can't move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I think it has something to do with the bale contract. I wonder even if were evenif spud are. I wonder if there was a clause sayinf if you get rid of him then no s.ell on clause for bale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 for about a month I should imagine we have and will have plenty of players in his bracket...none of which, will get as much attention...it is more of a lowe thing....shame people can't move on Its a shame we cant move him on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Its a shame we cant move him on we will....no no less than 12 months.. then we will have another player who is 3rd choice somewhere and will never make the bench...doubt he will get threads of his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Because he is now our 2nd choice keeper and is of such poor quality that he struggled to make it into a non-league team regularly. It seems ridiculous that we continue to pay a player who has no business calling himself a professional footballer, had no hope of getting a game for us when we were in League One, let alone now we are in the PL. People cannot understand why we continue to employ him, when it is perfectly possible to pay up his contract. As the OP questioned, is there something he knows that means we cannot pay him off? A final reminder of the bad old days of Lowe, how could anyone give a player of this ability a 5 year contract? Only Lowe knows I guess. Well then why was he always getting mentioned when he was also our third choice? Do you think he's going to remain our 2nd choice? Do you really think he knows "something" that means we can't pay him off? Do you know how much he's actually on? Do any of the other players seem particularly bothered to have him around. He's obviously a pretty poor keeper and he's had a bit of luck gettting a good deal, so what. I'm sure if the club really wanted to get rid of him they could pay up his contract, but are obviously not that bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 we will....no no less than 12 months.. then we will have another player who is 3rd choice somewhere and will never make the bench...doubt he will get threads of his own No the next third choice may never get his own threads, but I hope we get a player that is on the up and continually improving and may therefore become the 2nd choice and if good enough the first choice but Fourpast was never in that category he was bad when he was first seen and has only gone downhill since. hence the frustration of the fans with why he is still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 No the next third choice may never get his own threads, but I hope we get a player that is on the up and continually improving and may therefore become the 2nd choice and if good enough the first choice but Fourpast was never in that category he was bad when he was first seen and has only gone downhill since. hence the frustration of the fans with why he is still here. But if they're up and coming and continually improving they won't want to be third choice at Saints for too long, which causes it's own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 He's still here because he has a contract to be here. He has a contract because Lowe is a complete muppet. If you have a contract, you can't just cancel it. You either have to pay him off completely or terminate by 'mutual consent'. Clearly Tommy is not going to agree to terminate because a) He wont get anything like the money we pay him from a none league outfit and b) by pretty much every account I've seen of him, he is a complete chopper. Clearly Cortese wont just pay him to leave and why should he. If we're going to pay him, he might as well be here just to cover the reserves games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 But if they're up and coming and continually improving they won't want to be third choice at Saints for too long, which causes it's own problems. That will not be a problem at Saints, At the moment he would be first choice as soon as Kelvin gets his first Injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 That will not be a problem at Saints, At the moment he would be first choice as soon as Kelvin gets his first Injury. We're talking about our third choice keeper here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 We're talking about our third choice keeper here. Yes correct and as we dont have a second choice keeper at present our third choice is now second choice so an injury to Kelvin means he is in the team Simple isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Yes correct and as we dont have a second choice keeper at present our third choice is now second choice so an injury to Kelvin means he is in the team Simple isn't it yeah..if only we had a game this weekend...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 yeah..if only we had a game this weekend...... Well there is that, but you get the general idea on how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Collegue at work was in marbella (early May) staying at same hotel as players - she said they were all good lads but singled out two players! 1) Dan Seaborne - said he was really funny, really nice and played cards all week 2) Forecast - said he drunk "non stop" and was a complete sleaze Sure she didn't get it wrong way round? Heard seaborne is a proper arrogant guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I so want to see Forecast play some sort of match just to see what he is like! Is there not some slight resemblence to Rupert in his looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I have to say the nickname "Fourpast" always makes me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Yes about a million quid more than he should be. And he's a fcking tool. Probably the biggest discrepancy I've ever seen in football talent to earnings. Huge, huge cock-up signing him Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Hypothetically, who would you rather have here, TF for the final year of his contract, or Tal Ben Haim on 36k/week? No saying "neither", its one or the other. For me its TF, we need some one who is good at setting up the cones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Il laugh if he plays and is amazing, all these people dissing him, he was at spurs for a few seasons so must of been good at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 for about a month I should imagine we have and will have plenty of players in his bracket...none of which, will get as much attention...it is more of a lowe thing....shame people can't move on I asked you before who else is in his bracket? Who else is currently employed that cannot get a regular place in a non-league team? No-one. There is no-one in the category of "sham" at Saints currently. Even Pulis managed a few games with some League Two clubs. 4 games for Grimsby Town (when they were in the League), sent back because he was not good enough, 18 games in non-league, what sort of career is that? Can't even claim he is a youngster at the age of 25. People can move on, and everyone has, with the single exception of TF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I asked you before who else is in his bracket? Who else is currently employed that cannot get a regular place in a non-league team? No-one. There is no-one in the category of "sham" at Saints currently. Even Pulis managed a few games with some League Two clubs. 4 games for Grimsby Town (when they were in the League), sent back because he was not good enough, 18 games in non-league, what sort of career is that? Can't even claim he is a youngster at the age of 25. People can move on, and everyone has, with the single exception of TF. who is that fella who is so good...we sent him out to dagenham and redbridge..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 He obviously isn't going to figure this season so I don't know why they don't just terminate his contract. Either way the club have got to pay him for the next 12 months. So why not just pay him all up front and get him off the books? Surely he will not figure in our 25 man squad as that would be one space wasted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I think it has something to do with the bale contract. I wonder even if were evenif spud are. I wonder if there was a clause sayinf if you get rid of him then no s.ell on clause for bale There is no longer a sell-on clause for Bale, part of the attempt to avoid administration was to cash that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Il laugh if he plays and is amazing, all these people dissing him, he was at spurs for a few seasons so must of been good at some point. He is ****!! Been on loan at Grimsby, Eastbourne, Thurrock and Bronley! All reports suggest he was even poor at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 we will....no no less than 12 months.. then we will have another player who is 3rd choice somewhere and will never make the bench...doubt he will get threads of his own You just don't get it do you? We had a 3rd choice keeper, his name was Michael Poke. He was perfectly able, indeed has played regularly for teams in League Two and give a very good account of himself during loan spells at Torquay and Bristol Rovers (Paul Buckle influence). Played a few games for us, and apart from one poor display showed that he was capable given time. Sadly we could not keep him because we already had 3 keepers (KD, Bart & TF) and so he was let go. Poke is about the same age, but has played over 50 times at Football League level. Made a mistake joining Brighton, but will have a football career, which is more than TF will in the long term unless I am very much mistaken. You seem to have a problem with people discussing this worthless player and why we continue to employ him, and yet you continue to defend him, perpetuating the thread that you seek to stop, perhaps you are TF in disguise. If so like him you will fail to stop anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 You just don't get it do you? We had a 3rd choice keeper, his name was Michael Poke. He was perfectly able, indeed has played regularly for teams in League Two and give a very good account of himself during loan spells at Torquay and Bristol Rovers (Paul Buckle influence). Played a few games for us, and apart from one poor display showed that he was capable given time. Sadly we could not keep him because we already had 3 keepers (KD, Bart & TF) and so he was let go. Poke is about the same age, but has played over 50 times at Football League level. Made a mistake joining Brighton, but will have a football career, which is more than TF will in the long term unless I am very much mistaken. You seem to have a problem with people discussing this worthless player and why we continue to employ him, and yet you continue to defend him, perpetuating the thread that you seek to stop, perhaps you are TF in disguise. If so like him you will fail to stop anything. sorry, did not realise you decided who was good enough for 3rd choice and who sits where in the squad.. why couldn't poke stay as 3rd choice and TF be 4th choice..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Based on what? we were sold a pup, when doing the Bale deal with Sp*ds. I'm sure there was a thread /article on him at the time ..? Somebody at Spurs said he was a good prospect and was a future England keeper.! We bought the lie ....and the player on a 5 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 You can't help feeling people are dissing him because they just don't like him. Very few people have actually seen him play and are allowing themselves to be led like sheep by the mob. To put a bit of balance to the argument he made a big impact on the spurs academy, taking the team to the semis of the youth cup and vying a penalty at anfield in the shoot out. He has done very little since and being farmed out to non legue clubs has done little to his ranking at st Mary's. He will surely get a chance to show he is still motivated in per season but in the last year of his contract (I think) the writing could well be on the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 You can't help feeling people are dissing him because they just don't like him. Very few people have actually seen him play and are allowing themselves to be led like sheep by the mob. To put a bit of balance to the argument he made a big impact on the spurs academy, taking the team to the semis of the youth cup and saving a penalty at anfield in the shoot out. He has done very little since and being farmed out to non legue clubs has done little to his ranking at st Mary's. He will surely get a chance to show he is still motivated in pre season but in the last year of his contract (I think) the writing could well be on the wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Some people have no idea as to what a contract is. To terminate there : a) has to be a reason (and being 'rubbish' isn't one of them), b) you reach an agreement with the player (and TF is unlikely to do that) Otherwise it costs you what it would have cost anyway (in fact more as you have to find that money in one lump, rather than pay monthly). We've bought plenty of pups with less return than TF in the last decade (no doubt Lowe personally selected each of them - :rolleyes . Regardless, I suspect TF has cost us less than £500K total in wages AND helped sweeten a Bale deal when we didn't have a pot to **** in. In short, TF helped save the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Thing is he isn't really 3rd choice or whatever anyways. We'd get in an emergency loan before using him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Because he is now our 2nd choice keeper and is of such poor quality that he struggled to make it into a non-league team regularly. It seems ridiculous that we continue to pay a player who has no business calling himself a professional footballer, had no hope of getting a game for us when we were in League One, let alone now we are in the PL. People cannot understand why we continue to employ him, when it is perfectly possible to pay up his contract. As the OP questioned, is there something he knows that means we cannot pay him off? A final reminder of the bad old days of Lowe, how could anyone give a player of this ability a 5 year contract? Only Lowe knows I guess. Hes a player who never lived up to potential. When he arrived here he was rated as a prospect and let's not forget he was good enough to appear on the bench a number of times for Spurs in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Hes a player who never lived up to potential. When he arrived here he was rated as a prospect and let's not forget he was good enough to appear on the bench a number of times for Spurs in the PL. being on the bench is not the same as playing real games - is it? ......and that was probably in the time they were bottom of the Pre. League ...before 'arry took over as manager. Bart was on our bench for 3 years and hardly got a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Sure she didn't get it wrong way round? Heard seaborne is a proper arrogant guy. You heard wrong. Have been lucky enough to meet Seaborne before and he's one of the nicest blokes you'll ever come across. As for Forecast, I would love it if he's given a contract extension at the end of his deal, just to wind people up As others have said it really doesn't matter that much. He must be on tiny wages compared to the rest of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 sorry, did not realise you decided who was good enough for 3rd choice and who sits where in the squad.. why couldn't poke stay as 3rd choice and TF be 4th choice..? You really are a complete arse. You epitomise all that is cRap about mesage boards. But then you are the expert aren't you..dull days. If you have trouble reading or understanding posts then I suggest you don' t bother replying because it makes you look like a **** which you may not really be in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 (edited) You really are a complete arse. You epitomise all that is cRap about mesage boards. But then you are the expert aren't you..dull days. If you have trouble reading or understanding posts then I suggest you don' t bother replying because it makes you look like a **** which you may not really be in reality. but you are getting all up tight about a nothing player..? I think bittern saint has summed it up quite reasonably...and most of all, the club seem not too bothered either at the level he contributes to the level he gets paid Edited 20 May, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I've seen him play twice. Was pretty tosh but that's not the problem. As others may have seen in other threads about this toss pot, I've met him a few times and he is by far the biggest ***** I have ever met. I cba to go over his 'antics' again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 So was it Lowe who was so impressed by TF's performances on the bench for Spurs that he gave him a five year contract? I thought he would have been recommended by scouts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Thing is he isn't really 3rd choice or whatever anyways. We'd get in an emergency loan before using him. But wouldn't the powers at be point out that it wasn't an emegency as we have a keeper on the books in Forecast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 But wouldn't the powers at be point out that it wasn't an emegency as we have a keeper on the books in Forecast? If you only have one fit senior keeper on the bench you are eligible to bring in an emergency loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 So was it Lowe who was so impressed by TF's performances on the bench for Spurs that he gave him a five year contract? I thought he would have been recommended by scouts etc. He was indeed. Patred knows quite a few scouts and had confirmed when we signed him that numerous scouts viewed Forecast as one of the top young English prospects. Sadly, it hasn't worked out for him (probably due to his pi ss poor attitude), but so what? There are many young players with potential that never live up to it, that's just the way clubs work. No club in the land can avoid signing a few players that turn out to be duds. Given he was signed as a 3rd choice keeper when we were in admin I can't imagine that his wages amounted to all that much. Weird that he seems to a cause celebre for fan's to get worked up about! We've got some odd supporters, from Admin and bottom of L1 on minus 10 to the PL in less than 3 years and some fans are upset that our 3rd choice keeper is a bit rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Forecast by name FOURPAST by nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 from Admin and bottom of L1 on minus 10 to the PL in less than 3 years and some fans are upset that our 3rd choice keeper is a bit rubbish! Not a bit rubbish a lot rubbish thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 So was it Lowe who was so impressed by TF's performances on the bench for Spurs that he gave him a five year contract? I thought he would have been recommended by scouts etc. I suspect he was recommended by the Beavers, or the Brownies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Good old Tommy Foreskin...i remembered the garbage we got told he signed...could be a future England goalkeeper... One of the few relics of the "dark days"... How he made it as a professional i will never know... So typical isn't it...all the players you want, you only get on a 3 year deals...and the absolute dross get a 5 year gimp mask of a contract... Honestly i think they need to pay his remaining year of his contract and get him out...save on lunch costs, laundry etc Absolute waste of space...managed to scam free money for half a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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