Deano6 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 We now know it'll bet Reading and West Ham going up with us, with Wolves, Bolton and Blackburn coming down, what are your predictions for our new league next season? I've actually been watching this division for a few years now, not just this season, so know a bit about it already. For my money the teams we need to be watching out for are the two from Manchester: United and City. Chelsea are pretty good and could be a force next season plus Arsenal always perform strongly. To be honest I think these teams are the best ones and I personally don't think we'll be able to retain our coveted 2nd spot once more, but then I said something similar a year ago so who knows. My view is that we've now pretty much found our level and it won't be so easy from here on in. Even some of the teams I haven't mentioned are pretty good and may finish above us, those are Tottenham, Newcastle and maybe even Liverpool if they get themselves a good new manager. So my prediction unfortunately is a little on the pessimistic side and say I think we'll finish 17th. I would be happy with that, I think, though wouldn't want us to finish any lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 poor effort deppo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 My prediction is 12th, the Southampton way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 17th, and i'll be chuffed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alki_in_korea Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 3rd season in a row we will finish second thats right 2nd from top as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 14th - but I know feck all as I said 10th for last season... difference is the opposition ARE as good as I think they are, which was not the case last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 With respect, the opening post was rather a statement of known facts plus the bleeding obvious. We all know who the 3 up and 3 down are. We know that the teams that finished in the top 8 of the Premier League this year are likely favourites to do similar next season. All are mentioned in the OP except poor old Everton. Probably the most depressing thing this season has been that the Premier title and the Champions' League title have been taken by the two clubs that have had obscene amounts of money pumped into them and are therefore massively in debt to their owners. The third most depressing thing is that Dalgliesh, whose public personality I don't find particulary attractive but who has taken his club to the FA cup final and won the trophy, has been sacked! So winning the FA cup is no longer good enough for these wealthy foreign owners of what used to be English football clubs. As it is we are fortunate in our foreign ownership but if the Leibherr's were required to put in tens of millions to compete with the Manchesters, Liverpools and Chelseas, would they remain as benign? Who knows, because money has an insidious impact and we can see it is the main factor in which teams head the Premier League. If we play fair, evolving the squad with 2 or 3 signings and bringing on our best young talent, we may well have team we can be proud of, but realistically it will be lucky to get as high as 10th place. Personally, I'd be happy to see us achieve that, rather than have the Leibherr's looking for a big name foreign manager to sign a team full of players who have no idea where Southampton is. One or two, fine, because you must try to compete, but not the wholesale foreign imports and their Italian manager that were parading the Premier League trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 With respect, the opening post was rather a statement of known facts plus the bleeding obvious. We all know who the 3 up and 3 down are. We know that the teams that finished in the top 8 of the Premier League this year are likely favourites to do similar next season. All are mentioned in the OP except poor old Everton. Probably the most depressing thing this season has been that the Premier title and the Champions' League title have been taken by the two clubs that have had obscene amounts of money pumped into them and are therefore massively in debt to their owners. The third most depressing thing is that Dalgliesh, whose public personality I don't find particulary attractive but who has taken his club to the FA cup final and won the trophy, has been sacked! So winning the FA cup is no longer good enough for these wealthy foreign owners of what used to be English football clubs. As it is we are fortunate in our foreign ownership but if the Leibherr's were required to put in tens of millions to compete with the Manchesters, Liverpools and Chelseas, would they remain as benign? Who knows, because money has an insidious impact and we can see it is the main factor in which teams head the Premier League. If we play fair, evolving the squad with 2 or 3 signings and bringing on our best young talent, we may well have team we can be proud of, but realistically it will be lucky to get as high as 10th place. Personally, I'd be happy to see us achieve that, rather than have the Leibherr's looking for a big name foreign manager to sign a team full of players who have no idea where Southampton is. One or two, fine, because you must try to compete, but not the wholesale foreign imports and their Italian manager that were parading the Premier League trophy. What are you going on about? Moaning about teams having money pumped into them? Are you being ironic? And Liverpool winning the FA Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 poor effort deppo I'm glad you've spotted he's deppo. It's an excellent piece of detective work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I'm glad you've spotted he's deppo. It's an excellent piece of detective work. Deppo bearsy Deano6 Jawilliwil Norwaysaint one of the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 What are you going on about? Moaning about teams having money pumped into them? Are you being ironic? And Liverpool winning the FA Cup? Sorry if I wasn't clear - what I'm saying is exactly what Michel Platini is saying - that for football competitions to be meaningful, clubs should compete on a level playing field (no pun intended). The EUFA Fair Play rules might do something about it but it will be a hard fight against the vested interests. In the meantime, if Saints can make 10th in the Premier League given the imbalance of financial resources they will do very well, but many fans will simply see avoiding relegation as success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Sorry if I wasn't clear - what I'm saying is exactly what Michel Platini is saying - that for football competitions to be meaningful, clubs should compete on a level playing field (no pun intended). The EUFA Fair Play rules might do something about it but it will be a hard fight against the vested interests. In the meantime, if Saints can make 10th in the Premier League given the imbalance of financial resources they will do very well, but many fans will simply see avoiding relegation as success. Like we did in League One and the Championship? Bit hypocritical I might suggest. Since when is there a definition for football competitions to be "meaningful"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 17th, the bookies have Saints and Reading as equal favs to finish bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Deppo bearsy Deano6 Jawilliwil Norwaysaint one of the same Who the **** is Jawilliwil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I am, read the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Top draw sleuthing, I have to say. I think we should rename you the SWF Sherlock in residence. From now on, Dull-Sherlock-Days, please make it your life's mission to root out any alter egos of Deppo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cool Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 A third successive second is beyond my wildest dreams, I think 12th is more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 14th with 48 Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 It's a tough one... and certainly in the first season, there is a certain tradition of promoted clubs doing well. It's the so called 'second season syndrome' we need to worry about. As such, I don't think we'll get relegated. I think with the right incoming players, while keeping the decent backbone of our championship squad in action we could end up doing quite well. I think 12th or 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 17th, the bookies have Saints and Reading as equal favs to finish bottom. Bookies expected us to finish about 10th in the Championship this time last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 It's a tough one... and certainly in the first season, there is a certain tradition of promoted clubs doing well. It's the so called 'second season syndrome' we need to worry about. As such, I don't think we'll get relegated. I think with the right incoming players, while keeping the decent backbone of our championship squad in action we could end up doing quite well. I think 12th or 13th. I'm not a big believer in second season syndrome - how many times has it actually happened? Only Hull, Reading, Ipswich and Bradford spring to mind in the last 15ish seasons (45 promoted clubs) - surely first season syndrome is more common! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Europe has to be the aim. Nothing else is good enough otherwise the extra three tiers at SMS and Di Matttio's wages will not be paid for. Never the less, we will finish somewhere between 20th and 14th. Ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 We're likely to be in a relegation battle - along with about half the rest of the Premier League teams. I'll say 16th - but so hard to predict until we know who we sign and sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 21 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 21 May, 2012 With respect, the opening post was rather a statement of known facts plus the bleeding obvious. We all know who the 3 up and 3 down are. We know that the teams that finished in the top 8 of the Premier League this year are likely favourites to do similar next season. All are mentioned in the OP except poor old Everton. All teams are currently level on zero points. Nobody has any advantage over any other at this stage. Any predictions are purely guesswork of what might happen - nobody has any divine right to points. There's nothing to say I won't be completely wrong about how it will play out - indeed I was convinced Leicester would be automatically promoted in my guesses last year. Maybe one of the Manchester teams may get relegated next year, who knows? So I've made my predictions, why don't you make some of your own and we can compare who was closest at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 This is one prediction I don't feel comfortable with at all. I have absolutely no idea - I'll go for 15th, staying up but not as comfortably as we'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 to finish 17th would be a good season...we will be in the mix for a large chunk of the season for relegation IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 I'm reserving judgement for the beginning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 All teams are currently level on zero points. Nobody has any advantage over any other at this stage. Any predictions are purely guesswork of what might happen - nobody has any divine right to points. There's nothing to say I won't be completely wrong about how it will play out - indeed I was convinced Leicester would be automatically promoted in my guesses last year. Maybe one of the Manchester teams may get relegated next year, who knows? So I've made my predictions, why don't you make some of your own and we can compare who was closest at the end of the season? Have you been drinking already this morning ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stattmeister Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 What do the bookies say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 I think West Ham going up just made it a whole lot harder to stay up. It's only guesswork as it's so early but you have to expect relegation to be between Us, Reading, West Ham, Wigan, QPR, Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. I can't see Villa having another season that bad, Fulham, Stoke and Sunderland all have too much about them to be down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Ringwood Saint Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 got to get a good start - last season was a prime example of what getting on top early can do for confidence in a new league - that said, if we win more than 3 of our opening 10 games I would be happy! Think most of the league below 10th got somwhere between 1 and 1.5 points a game so 1 win in three it is...... Going to stick my neck out and say 12th - safe by Easter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 1. Manchester City 2. Manchester United 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal 5. Liverpool 6. Tottenham 7. Newcastle 8. Everton 9. Fulham 10. Sunderland 11. Stoke 12. Southampton 13. Swansea 14. West Ham 15. Aston Villa 16. Wigan 17. West Brom 18. Reading 19. Norwich 20. QPR Be lucky to get 4 out of 20 right, but that's roughly what I think will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 1. Man City 2. Chelsea 3. Arsenal 4. Man Utd 5. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 7. Sunderland 8. Everton 9. Newcastle 10. Fulham 11. Reading 12. Aston Villa 13. Stoke 14. Swansea 15. QPR 16. West Ham 17. Southampton 18. West Brom 19. Norwich 20. Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 1. Man City 2. U Man U 3. Arsenal 4. Chelsea 5. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 7. Everton 8. Newcastle 9. Sunderland 10. SFC 11. Villa 12. Fulham 13. Wham 14. Swansea 15. Reading 16. West Brum 17. Stoke 18. Narch 19. QPR 20. Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 Its 16th for me, finishing above West Brom or Wigan (disasterous manager choice likely/Martinez to go), Reading (found out), Narch or Swansea (one will implode - not sure which) and 'a big name' (maybe Fulham, maybe Wham - I'd like Stoke to finally fu.ck off cause hate the way they play, but can't see it unfortunately). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 1. Man City 2. Man Utd 3. Chelsea 4. Arsenal ------------------- (CL Qualification) 5. Liverpool 6. Spurs 7. Newcastle ------------------- (Europa Lg Qual.) 8. Sunderland 9. Everton 10. Fulham 11. Villa 12. Swansea 13. Stoke 14. SAINTS 15. West Ham 16. QPR 17. West Brom ------------------ (Relegation) 18. Norwich 19. Reading 20. Wigan Man City - Will spend big in the summer, strengthening their squad while getting rid of the dead wood. Will be big pressure on them to win the title again but unless Man Utd match City in spending it's only going one way. Man Utd - Need to strengthen their squad in a few positions, notably buying/blooding replacements for Ferdinand, Giggs and Scholes. Reckon they'll finish 2nd again. Chelsea - Abramovich will back whoever they bring in as manager heavily with cash, and now that they've won the CL they'll be able to attract some quality players. Need to replace older players though. Arsenal - The key thing for them is keeping hold of RVP. If they can manage to do that and bring in a few more quality players then they'll be serious contenders, esp. with young talent coming through (Oxo, Wilshere) Liverpool - They will also spend during the summer, but the squad is there to get a Europa place imo. If they can pull off a coup and bring in a real quality player then I can see them pushing for top 4. Spurs - 'Arry won't change too much over the summer, he might look to bring in 2 or 3 players but I think he'll be happy to keep his squad pretty much similar. Needs more strength in depth though. Newcastle - Can't see them repeating the feats of this season, but if they can keep hold of Ba and Cisse then they'll always score goals. They need to shore up their defence though, especially at full-back. Sunderland - I think it was a real masterstroke getting Martin O'Neill on board, he knows this league inside-out. If he can bring in a few good players they'll be a good bet for a top 8 finish. Everton - Need to improve their squad, although getting money out of Kenwright is obviously a problem. They need another striker, as I think Jelavic will be a flash-in-the-pan player. Expect them to go for Holt. Fulham - Solid team, if they can keep tie Pogbrenyak down to a decent contract and bring in a few players to replace their older pros and increase the size of their squad there's no reason they can't finish top half. Villa - Had a nightmare season but they'll look to appoint a good manager with attacking prowess who can get their strikers scoring - that's the key for a decent finish for them. Keeping Bent fit as well will be vital. Swansea - Think they might get 'found out' a bit this year and won't dominate against some teams like they did this season. Still, they quality is there to see in their squad, all they need is a striker who'll get them 15+. Stoke - Looking to overhaul their squad which means transfers for them, but there'll be lots of competition for signatures this year and I think they'll lose out. Still, Pulis is a good manager and they ought to be safe. SAINTS - I think our current squad might just avoid relegation, but with a few additions I think 14th is a realistic and healthy finish. This year is about establishing ourselves as a Prem team, and in NA we trust! West Ham - Will make lots of signings but I think that could backfire on them. Allardyce will come under pressure from the fans and will probably be sacked. He was closer than you might think to going this year. QPR - They've been a good team since January but there are lots of egos at that club which will certainly affect performances and harmony. Need some established Prem faces and cool heads, not more mercenaries. West Brom - Decent enough squad but I don't think they'll do anything special this year. In fact unless they appoint a very good manager I can see them struggling a bit. Norwich - I can see Lambert leaving, and I can't see them replacing him with anyone that great. They don't have a huge transfer budget and their squad is pretty average. Reading - Possibly a controversial choice for relegation, but I don't think they'll make it. Average squad at best, although spirited. Unless they make big moves they'll be struggling. Wigan - Can only see Martinez leaving which is a shame for them as that ultimately spells relegation for them. Not a great squad and unless somebody can work miracles on them it'll be a bad season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 based on current squad..we will struggle.... lets see what happens with the bolstering of the squad and i will reassess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 me Man City Chelsea Man U Arsenal Liverpool Spurs Everton Newcastle Villa Sunderland Fulham Stoke QPR West Ham Swansea Saints WBA NOrwich Reading Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 League Cup winners and survival will do me. My worry is that there are too many average plodding teams to play and we're not great at those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Current squad relegation IMO is inevitable, I think we need atleast 6 quality players.. Hopefull Adkins has a plan B this year for when we fall behind in a game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I would like to place a bet on us not being relegated next season, but bookies only seem to want to take bets on being relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Hard to spot three sides to be relegated below us. Will hoof ball work in the Prem? If not West Ham will be bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Right I'll have a stab at the relegation stakes then. Swansea Wigan QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 (edited) 15th, though possibly as high as 10th with some exceptional additions. Wigan, QPR and WBA to go down. Edited 22 May, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I can't see qpr going down... Mark Hughes is a good manager, I think they'll make some more sensible signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I'm reserving judgement for the beginning of the season. I'm reserving judgement till I see what Dalek predicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 I can't see qpr going down... Mark Hughes is a good manager, I think they'll make some more sensible signings. Plus were looking at sacking Barton for Gross misconduct so that frees up another £10m in wages. I have: Norwich - losing their manager Wigan - likewise Reading or Saints - depending on their signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now