Hatch Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10429~2772104,00.html ADULT TICKETS FROM £255, THAT'S JUST £13.42 PER GAME! FAMILY/DAD & LAD PACKAGES FROM JUST £255 UNDER 21s TICKETS FROM JUST £170 UNDER 16s PRICES REDUCED, NOW FROM JUST £85 UNDER 5s STILL FREE SPREAD THE COST BY PAYING IN INSTALLMENTS take note Mr C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 Considering they never get a full capacity crowd and their average in the prem was less than our championship average they need all the help they can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 Average attendance 2011-2012 was 18,633 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 Considering you'd be supporting Wigan, I think paying £255 instead of being payed £255 is a bit much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 The place will be rammed full for Wigan Rugby League games. Fooball is without doubt the poor relation in this town. So a bit of a no brainer that the prices for the Footie are bobbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 19 May, 2012 Share Posted 19 May, 2012 DAD & LAD PACKAGES FROM JUST £255 Northern sexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 DAD & LAD PACKAGES FROM JUST £255 Northern sexists Personally I'd like to see "jailbait and mate" packages for a tenner each. ...inappropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Personally I'd like to see "jailbait and mate" packages for a tenner each. ...inappropriate? They are in takeaway shops up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldsaint Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 The place will be rammed full for Wigan Rugby League games. Fooball is without doubt the poor relation in this town. So a bit of a no brainer that the prices for the Footie are bobbins. According to wiki (Yes, I know) the average for Rugby was 17,193 in 2011 and for football in the 2009/10 season it was 18,006. I've no idea about the ticket prices for rugby though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10429~2772104,00.html ADULT TICKETS FROM £255, THAT'S JUST £13.42 PER GAME! FAMILY/DAD & LAD PACKAGES FROM JUST £255 UNDER 21s TICKETS FROM JUST £170 UNDER 16s PRICES REDUCED, NOW FROM JUST £85 UNDER 5s STILL FREE SPREAD THE COST BY PAYING IN INSTALLMENTS take note Mr C. See? That's what happens when you don't have a Catchment Area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stkev7 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I believe Blackburn done something similar for this season. I know of a Liverpool fan who just bought one purely because it was so cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I believe Blackburn done something similar for this season. I know of a Liverpool fan who just bought one purely because it was so cheap. How pointless. I can't think of anything worse than watching games in a half full stadium, playing sh*t in the championship, with protests against the owners and management week in, week out. Obviously that's coming from experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 How pointless. I can't think of anything worse than watching games in a half full stadium, playing sh*t in the championship, with protests against the owners and management week in, week out. Obviously that's coming from experience. they were fun times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Another meaningless comparison ticket price thread. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 ....mor to the point, hyperthetically, what would you be prepared to pay if Cortese spent 100mil pon players for a push to the CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Bayern Munich - average season ticker price is around £100 - still going to brag about Wigans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Bayern Munich - average season ticker price is around £100 - still going to brag about Wigans?Are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Are you sure about that? Well it was on radio 5 the other night, on drive. Had an executive from Bayern on and they were discussing club finances in england. Apparently Bayern make £130m from merchandise. It completely dwarfs clubs in the uk. There total turnover is £300m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Well it was on radio 5 the other night, on drive. Had an executive from Bayern on and they were discussing club finances in england. Apparently Bayern make £130m from merchandise. It completely dwarfs clubs in the uk. There total turnover is £300m I know Bayern make a fortune out of merchandise (think possibly more than any other club in the world, but not sure), most of the big German clubs are very good at the commercial side, making money out of selling loads of food and booze at games etc. However, your quote of their average season ticket price being £100 is wrong (think about it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 I know Bayern make a fortune out of merchandise (think possibly more than any other club in the world, but not sure), most of the big German clubs are very good at the commercial side, making money out of selling loads of food and booze at games etc. However, your quote of their average season ticket price being £100 is wrong (think about it). Wrong. You can find direct quotes from the Bayern president on Google: 69,000 capacity, and this is Bayern Club President Uli Hoeness on the clubs season tickets. One third of them - 12,500 - are sold for £104. This is apparently made possible by selling 2,100 corporate seats for £7,000. "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us ? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 May, 2012 Share Posted 20 May, 2012 Wrong. You can find direct quotes from the Bayern president on Google: 69,000 capacity, and this is Bayern Club President Uli Hoeness on the clubs season tickets. One third of them - 12,500 - are sold for £104. This is apparently made possible by selling 2,100 corporate seats for £7,000. "We could charge more than £104. Lets say we charged £300. We'd get £2m more in income, but whats £2m to us ? In a tranfer discussion you argue about that sum for five minutes. But the difference between £104 and £300 is huge for the fan. We do not think the fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. Thats the biggest difference between us and England". It's a great philosophy - but I think you'll find you're wrong if you bother to read what has been written above. Unless you're agreeing with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 It's a great philosophy - but I think you'll find you're wrong if you bother to read what has been written above. Unless you're agreeing with me? Sorry Sour mash, but I am going to go with the business dudes from Bayern, the fact that it was talked about seriously for about 30min on drive as a business strategy to be adopted in england and the fact that its on their website, all of these are evidence that it is true. Against this, I have you saying its wrong because you can't believe it and hadn't bothered to look in to it. I know that it is staggering, but it is true. And all those fans go out and buy shirts which contributes to their massive merchandising turnover. Example - against Chelsea it was a literal sea of red in every stand. In contrast the chelsea fans were not all decked out in their clubs kit. Says it all really. Another example would be shalke, fan owned as its the community club, fantastic gates and making strides into europe. The germans have got the right idea, and they are right to be bashing on about chelsea and man city, who ultimately ruin it for the english fans bey making forcing clubs to spend fortunes on players. A fact that gets pushed onto the fans. You are correct however about them being the highest merchandising turnover in the world. This was also confirmed on Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 He's not disputing that they sell STs for £104, however those are the cheapest - and the post Sour Mash responded too said that the average season ticket price was £100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 I wish Saints would hurry and release the prices ffs, I've got alot of other things that will be effected by the cost and how much I can spend on those other things. There's just no need to keep the prices back, they know what they will be so just let people know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 Please don't compare us to Wigan. If you supported Wigan, that would probably mean that you lived in Wigan, which would mean that £255 is equal to about 7 years' wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 He's not disputing that they sell STs for £104, however those are the cheapest - and the post Sour Mash responded too said that the average season ticket price was £100. What's your definition of 'average'? If it's true that a 1/3 of season tickets are being sold for £104, there's a pretty high probability that it is the (mode) average. Look, I can be pernickety too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 What's your definition of 'average'? If it's true that a 1/3 of season tickets are being sold for £104, there's a pretty high probability that it is the (mode) average. Look, I can be pernickety too! The common use of "average" is mean, as I'm sure you are well aware. Also, £104 isn't £100, if you're being "pernickety". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 I've had a premonition that the Season Ticket prices will be announced this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 The common use of "average" is mean, as I'm sure you are well aware. Also, £104 isn't £100, if you're being "pernickety". Speak for yourself. I'd actually suggest that in everyday use, mode average, even if you don't call it the "mode average" when your calculating, is the most used method of averaging. Controversial, I know. But that's just what I think. Also, nobody has said £104 is £100. He said "around £100". P.s. For the record, I have no idea, other than the evidence given in this thread, what Bayern's season ticket pricing structure is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 What's your definition of 'average'? If it's true that a 1/3 of season tickets are being sold for £104, there's a pretty high probability that it is the (mode) average. Look, I can be pernickety too! The same definition used for average attendances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 Speak for yourself. I'd actually suggest that in everyday use, mode average, even if you don't call it the "mode average" when your calculating, is the most used method of averaging. Controversial, I know. But that's just what I think. Also, nobody has said £104 is £100. He said "around £100". P.s. For the record, I have no idea, other than the evidence given in this thread, what Bayern's season ticket pricing structure is. Ask 100 people to "calculate" an average, and at least 90% would do the "add them all up and divide by the number of things" calculation that is the common usage of average that we all learn at school. The other ten percent might ask the question about mode and median, but they'd just be showing off. "Average" is mean in British common parlance. It just is. And the AVERAGE command on Microsoft excel does the mean as well. Funnily enough. And, although no one knows the exact details of Bayern's structure, the news reports majored on the £104 figure. If there was a more newsworthy, and lower, number, which there would need to be to make the AVERAGE around £100, then don't you think that would have been in the news reports? So lets just agree that the average season ticket price is not £100, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 21 May, 2012 Share Posted 21 May, 2012 Why are people wanting to pay as much as possible for a season ticket? It seems people ridicule the fact that you can pay as little as Wigan for a season ticket. Do they not get to see the same teams play at their ground. Do we honestly think that if we pay 2 or 3 times what they do for a season ticket, we are going to win the league? It's the same when it comes to transfers, fans like to brag that they are able to pay over the top for a player, paying him many thousands of pounds in wages, not realising that in reality that money has come from their own wallets. Yes we all want to see Saints do well, but surely not at the expense of our own hard earned money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Please don't compare us to Wigan. If you supported Wigan, that would probably mean that you lived in Wigan, which would mean that £255 is equal to about 7 years' wages. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 By Average most people mean the arithmetic mean (not to be confused with the geometric mean which should only be used for things like interest rates over a time period). Anyway, the comparison to Wigan and Munich is completely irrelevant as they have completely different business models. Saints will charge a lot more because, in short, they can. As long as demand remains strong and supply remains the same (i.e. 32k) then there is no business case to reduce the prices, other than perhaps for a bit of goodwill from the fans but I hardly think they need that after 2 successive promotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 May, 2012 Share Posted 22 May, 2012 Ask 100 people to "calculate" an average, and at least 90% would do the "add them all up and divide by the number of things" calculation that is the common usage of average that we all learn at school. The other ten percent might ask the question about mode and median, but they'd just be showing off. "Average" is mean in British common parlance. It just is. And the AVERAGE command on Microsoft excel does the mean as well. Funnily enough. And, although no one knows the exact details of Bayern's structure, the news reports majored on the £104 figure. If there was a more newsworthy, and lower, number, which there would need to be to make the AVERAGE around £100, then don't you think that would have been in the news reports? So lets just agree that the average season ticket price is not £100, shall we? Or it could have been said that an 'average' Season Ticket was around £100 - ie. one in the wings without a great view. Whereas a 'great' Season Ticket is £2,100 - with girls in dirndles, serving Becks in Liter Steins and offering a happy ending regardless of the score... just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 May, 2012 Share Posted 23 May, 2012 I guess there must bea nother thread about general season ticket prices not just Wigan but here is some good info: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/premier-league-ticket-prices-2012-13 and let's hope NC considers WBA pricing although sure he wont: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/premier-league-clubs-season-tickets?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 May, 2012 Share Posted 23 May, 2012 And why are we always last to issue any pricing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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