The Kraken Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 If you had simple 'dared to question it' it would have ben fair enough - but yours that's never enough for you is it - you need to wind folk up' date=' ridicule and 'point fingers laughing'... at anyone who does not seem to conform to your exacting model of what a fan should be...[/quote'] Dared to question it? This "debate" has gone back years. MLG "and chums" (as you put it) have been clamouring for a new 45K to 50K stadium almost since the point at which 2 years ago Cortese said on BBC Solent that we would explore all options. If you think this is a new thing then you've missed a fair bit, this argument is years old. Its just been ramped up a few notches since we achieved the targets of the 5 year plan. I'm not going to speak for Turkish, but I assume I'm one of the "chums" (as if people can't agree with one another with suggestions of an ulterior negative motive?). But yes, I find the attitude of some of our fans arrogant in terms of how big we are. So do a lot of our own fans, even if they don't admit it: there have been plenty of threads dedicated to the arrogance of West Ham fans this season from their KUMB board. And this is a message board; we don't all come on here for serious debate, surely? Its a laugh. If you can't laugh at others as well as yourself then there's not much point in bothering. And it works both ways. For "daring to question it" I've been called thick, lacking in sense, and stuck in a 1990s mentality, plus I'm sure plenty of other idiotic analogies. So its no good trying to claim the moral high ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Quite right too "the voice of reason". Someone has to tell these arrogant morons how it really is. Anyone who labels themselves an "intelligent/enlightened poster" needs bringing down a peg or two. If that involves pointing and laughing then so be it. Funny how you are so obsessed with labels - and you seem to be the only one using your 'special terms of endearment' - no one else has labelled themselves as anything... only you 'sunshine' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Funny how you are so obsessed with labels - and you seem to be the only one using your 'special terms of endearment' - no one else has labelled themselves as anything... only you 'sunshine' I think you need to research your "chums" better princess. The ones you were siding with on other threads have regularly labelled themselves "intelligent" or "enlightened". That's why I said they were self titled. It isnt difficult to understand is it old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Dared to question it? This "debate" has gone back years. MLG "and chums" (as you put it) have been clamouring for a new 45K to 50K stadium almost since the point at which 2 years ago Cortese said on BBC Solent that we would explore all options. If you think this is a new thing then you've missed a fair bit, this argument is years old. Its just been ramped up a few notches since we achieved the targets of the 5 year plan. I'm not going to speak for Turkish, but I assume I'm one of the "chums" (as if people can't agree with one another with suggestions of an ulterior negative motive?). But yes, I find the attitude of some of our fans arrogant in terms of how big we are. So do a lot of our own fans, even if they don't admit it: there have been plenty of threads dedicated to the arrogance of West Ham fans this season from their KUMB board. And this is a message board; we don't all come on here for serious debate, surely? Its a laugh. If you can't laugh at others as well as yourself then there's not much point in bothering. And it works both ways. For "daring to question it" I've been called thick, lacking in sense, and stuck in a 1990s mentality, plus I'm sure plenty of other idiotic analogies. So its no good trying to claim the moral high ground. I just dont get why some of you are so worried if a few posters are desperate for expansion and grow and success, no matter how long its gone on for - if its not your bag, just leave it alone. Seriously its not arrogance, its dreams, aspiration and an element of ego fuelling for sure, but there is seriously no harm in that.... apart from to those that have their own ego issue -too worried about what someone else/other fans may think - which is just pi ss in the wind.. The irony is lost on some, saying it should not be taken all that seriously, yet seem so worried about what is written on here in case other fans are laughing at us... and thats not taking things too seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 I think you need to research your "chums" better princess. The ones you were siding with on other threads have regularly labelled themselves "intelligent" or "enlightened". That's why I said they were self titled. It isnt difficult to understand is it old boy. ...maybe they have a point... afterall its all relative darling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 I just dont get why some of you are so worried if a few posters are desperate for expansion and grow and success, no matter how long its gone on for - if its not your bag, just leave it alone. Seriously its not arrogance, its dreams, aspiration and an element of ego fuelling for sure, but there is seriously no harm in that.... apart from to those that have their own ego issue -too worried about what someone else/other fans may think - which is just pi ss in the wind.. The irony is lost on some, saying it should not be taken all that seriously, yet seem so worried about what is written on here in case other fans are laughing at us... and thats not taking things too seriously? By the same token: why are you so bothered that others are seemingly so bothered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 west ham - bigger club and way more deserving than any other play off team as finished so far ahead of the others. Also, i've met fat sam and he's not a bad bloke. Holloway on the other hand is a complete kok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 By the same token: why are you so bothered that others are seemingly so bothered? come on... thats a little churlish... shoudl I respond with: '' why are you so bothered that I am so bothered that others are seemingly bothered'' ...a laugh surely? I am not, but raise it as its related to ego - one of the complaints issued agaisnt those in the 'arrogant' bucket.... and I love it when folk miss the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 west ham - bigger club and way more deserving than any other play off team as finished so far ahead of the others. Also, i've met fat sam and he's not a bad bloke. Holloway on the other hand is a complete kok TBH - have to agree they deserve it on league performance, but ...ahrr cant bring myself to like 'big fat sam'.. and his chewing and whining.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Luckily, this thread is not about who deserves to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Luckily, this thread is not about who deserves to go up. Decent point - I fear it will be lost amongst all the bickering. I'm thinking that I would like to join one of the cool forum gangs. Not because I'm cool - but just to get my £5 worth. Just lately watching most threads decend into orchestrated argumentative farce it's rare that I post 3 times a week - never mind a day. Whose gang can I join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 (edited) Decent point - I fear it will be lost amongst all the bickering. I'm thinking that I would like to join one of the cool forum gangs. Not because I'm cool - but just to get my £5 worth. Just lately watching most threads decend into orchestrated argumentative farce it's rare that I post 3 times a week - never mind a day. Whose gang can I join? I dunno myself yet! I just did a little troll back at Turkish to try and get a feel for it, but it was about as much fun as shutting my knob in a car door. I'm thinking of becoming a doom monger next to see what that club is like. Next season is way too far away!! Edited 17 May, 2012 by Ohio Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Blackpool just because didn't fat Sam say he had booked a hotel in Las Vegas on the day of the playoff final? Implying WH would be promoted automatically and he would be on holiday before that day. Which I think even on Dell Days and Turkish's definition of arrogance is pretty high up there! So as much as I dislike Holloway it would be funny as hell to see West Ham screw it up after keeping together an expensive squad after relegation and pumping loads of money you don't have on transfers that season on the gamble your go up. We did that and look what happened to us. Maybe WH fans needs the same to happen to them so they grow a bit of respect for the division they find themselves in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Blackpool - once liked Wet Sham but Fat Sam has ruined the club and I would love to see them sack him if they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 17 May, 2012 Share Posted 17 May, 2012 Im going to be sensible, I want West Ham to go up because they came 3rd and so deserve it. Nobody else came close, Holloways a c_nt and I hate northerners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Blackpool as that will wind up my mate who supported Wet Sham since infant school and had absolutely no reason to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Holloways a c_nt and I hate northerners. :lol: Finally, a sensible comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Jeez, who do I want to lose this one? We have Wurzel Gummidge vs Fred Flinstone. I wish to God it had been Cardiff coming up. Who do you want to join us in the Prem? Anyway how can it be Hobson's Choice if there are two possibilities ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 And this is a message board; we don't all come on here for serious debate, surely? Its a laugh. If you can't laugh at others as well as yourself then there's not much point in bothering. Im sorry mate but you Turkish, DD, CB Fry and the rest of the whips are far from funny. A night out with you lot would be a load of bitterness and no laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Im sorry mate but you Turkish, DD, CB Fry and the rest of the whips are far from funny. A night out with you lot would be a load of bitterness and no laughs. Sounds like the basis for a very good pig party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Jeez, who do I want to lose this one? We have Wurzel Gummidge vs Fred Flinstone. I wish to God it had been Cardiff coming up. Who do you want to join us in the Prem? I always had Holloway pegged as Farmer Palmer myself. "Get orrf moi laaand...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Away day at Blackpool or another London trip? Come on BLACKPOOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Definitely Blackpool. It would be much funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 ... and I hate northerners. That's strange, everybody up here speaks so well of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Blackpool so we can sing Premier League, you're having a laff. And please lay off Morcambe and Wise (aka Delight and Dulldroms) who without their wisdom and insight into all that is good we really couldn't function as a forum let alone a fan base, in them we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Blackpool due to FatSam and Sullivan and Gold etc who have done their best to keep Pompey alive. I would have thought we would have a better chance of staying above Blackpool in the league and so that would perhaps be one relegation place less for us to worry about. WH will be more of a threat IMo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Let's look at the cold hard facts. Managers: Fat Sam is a bit of a c*nt. Olly is a total c*nt. Winner: West Ham Players: West Ham have Matty Taylor crown prince of c*ntage. Blackpool have Kevin Phillips. Winner: Blackpool Away Days: West Ham is close-ish, Blackpool isn’t. Winner: West Ham Fans: West Ham supporters are among the worst in England. Winner: Blackpool Raiding players: Blackpool have Matt Phillips and Thomas Ince. West Ham have nobody worth having. Winner: West Ham LOLage: West Ham are in serious financial trouble if they don’t go up. Winner: Blackpool Result: DRAW Therefore I don’t care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 WHU are EVS for match, 8/13 for promotion with Hills. Cracking prices IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Away day at Blackpool or another London trip? Come on BLACKPOOL Definitely Blackpool. It would be much funnier. Blackpool for me also. I have a few mates who are West Ham fans, great lads but it would be good to see the Porn Kings facing the irony of paying a vast sum of money to a bankrupt institution in the vain hope it would save 6 points and ensure promotion. There's a possible implosion due down at the Boleyn ground! As to Holloway? He may be annoying but he plays to the gallery and is only a more public version of the trolls we have on here. C'mon you Tangerines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 :lol: Finally, a sensible comment.Oops! Did I say that out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Oops! Did I say that out loud You did indeed, and I suspect that given the 12:19 timing of it there may have been alcohol involved. Fess up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Pool as they'll have less funds to compete, are less annoying as a fanbase and finally everyone wants the underdog to do well. You forgot the bit about their having nice ornage shirts as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 You forgot the bit about their having nice ornage shirts as well You can't beat a nice ornage shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 You can't beat a nice ornage shirt. Is that a beige and lemon pastel shade???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 You can't beat a nice ornage shirt. Is that a beige and lemon pastel shade???? I assumed it was a type of poofy fabric, like laurence llewelyn bowen wears round his cuffs. "and Im just going to spice this shirt up with a swathe of ornage....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 I'd like to see Blackpool win as think they would struggle more in the PL than West Ham. Think West Ham will smash them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Blackpool up please, and I'd say that every second of every minute, every minute of every hour, every hour of every day, every day of every week, every week of every year, every year of every decade, every decade of every century and every century of every millenium. West Ham will win though, they're simply a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 west ham would more then likely finish above us IMO should they go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 It seems an age since we went up. Yet this hasn't been decided yet. We always do it the easy way FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 west ham would more then likely finish above us IMO should they go up Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Based on what? Refereeing decisions to start with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Based on what? their manager is used to playing NOT to lose...they will again throw money around like confetti and will have a very strong squad. allardyce is no mug in the prem and had a shyt blackburn team 10th before they let him go.... just a hunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Based on what? They have better players than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Based on what? Bribery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 They have better players than we do. While that is true, BFS doesn't seem to know what to do with them all! I agree though, on paper they should finish above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 They have better players than we do. Why have they finished below us? Why did we take 4 points off them? I think you lot should all do the lottery as you obviously know what our squad will look like next year if you think west Hams will be better than ours....hasn't worked this year...what makes you so sure it will next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Why have they finished below us? Why did we take 4 points off them? I think you lot should all do the lottery as you obviously know what our squad will look like next year if you think west Hams will be better than ours....hasn't worked this year...what makes you so sure it will next? we finished below brighton last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Exactly...we also finished below West Ham...but not this year so I can't see hOw anyone can predict where we will finish neXt season when we haven't released or signed anyone yet. We have no idea whether our squad will be stronger or worse than WH or even if our manager will be here or if we have RDM and he has bought us Drogba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Exactly...we also finished below West Ham...but not this year so I can't see hOw anyone can predict where we will finish neXt season when we haven't released or signed anyone yet. We have no idea whether our squad will be stronger or worse than WH or even if our manager will be here or if we have RDM and he has bought us Drogba. Wow. Do you think you would you would have kicked up such an unnecessary stink if Delldays had predicted we'd finish above West Ham? Close seasons are always going to be about speculation. especially before we know who will sign who. I happen to disagree with DD, I think even if West ham do go up they'll still be in the sh*t financially and won't be massively in he transfer market, BFS I reckon will have to largely work with what he has. Whether that's correct or not, who knows and time will tell, but I don't see why its a point to get all uppity about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 May, 2012 Share Posted 18 May, 2012 Wow. Do you think you would you would have kicked up such an unnecessary stink if Delldays had predicted we'd finish above West Ham? Close seasons are always going to be about speculation. especially before we know who will sign who. I happen to disagree with DD, I think even if West ham do go up they'll still be in the sh*t financially and won't be massively in he transfer market, BFS I reckon will have to largely work with what he has. Whether that's correct or not, who knows and time will tell, but I don't see why its a point to get all uppity about. hahahah kicked up a stink..hahahah touchy today are you Dennis Waterman to his George Cole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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