James Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Can we change the title of this thread please? It scares the **** out of anyone who hasnt been on the site for a while and there is absolutely no basis to say its true other than the hearsay of one poster who won't reveal his 'source'. In my mind there's no way it will happen but until it does lets make it clear its barely even a rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 - In a 42k stadium this season they averaged 33k. - They are over £100m in debt, compared to Saints £0. This sums it up... Because natuarlly the first thing any potential manager will look at is the attendance percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Also the manager Villa are talking about is quite clearly Paul Lambert at Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 - In a 42k stadium this season they averaged 33k. - They are over £100m in debt, compared to Saints £0. This sums it up... like I said..I am not going to go round and round in some autistic debate with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 (edited) Next Permanent Liverpool Manager Roberto Martinez 6/4 Pep Guardiola 20/1 Jurgen Klinsmann 33/1 Rafael Benitez 13/8 Steve Clarke 20/1 Bert Van Marwijk 33/1 Jose Mourinho 10/1 Guus Hiddink 22/1 Claudio Ranieri 40/1 Martin O'Neill 10/1 Louis Van Gaal 22/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 50/1 Frank Rijkaard 12/1 Jamie Carragher 25/1 Steven Gerrard 50/1 Andre Villas-Boas 12/1 Marco Van Basten 25/1 Nigel Adkins 50/1 Paul Lambert 14/1 Macelo Lippi 25/1 Steve Bruce 66/1 Brendan Rodgers 14/1 Owen Coyle 25/1 Kevin Keegan 66/1 Unai Emery 18/1 Joachim Loew 25/1 Alex McLeish 66/1 Didier Deschamps 20/1 Frank de Boer 25/1 Dietmar Hamman 66/1 Fabio Capello 20/1 David Moyes 33/1 Roy Hodgson 80/1 Carlo Ancelotti 20/1 Martin Jol 33/1 Phil Thompson 80/1 Laurent Blanc 20/1 Gustavo Poyet 33/1 Robbie Fowler 100/1 Jorge Jesus 20/1 Manuel Pellegrini 33/1 Edited 16 May, 2012 by Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Can we change the title of this thread please? It scares the **** out of anyone who hasnt been on the site for a while and there is absolutely no basis to say its true other than the hearsay of one poster who won't reveal his 'source'. In my mind there's no way it will happen but until it does lets make it clear its barely even a rumour. My thoughts exactly. Please change the title of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 The blinded arrogance and ignorance of Saints fans never fails to amaze me. Which English clubs do you think he would leave for then? Few can match or better what he has going for him at Saints right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 But a smaller catchment area. Definitely. It's too close to Nottingham, Derby and Leicester. They couldn't compete with them when it comes to mopping up all the latent support in Belper, Matlock, Bakewell and Buxton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 like I said..I am not going to go round and round in some autistic debate with you Are either of my points incorrect then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Which English clubs do you think he would leave for then? Few can match or better what he has going for him at Saints right now. Go and bother someone else with your predictable statistical drivel, you tiresome turd. You have no idea, no idea whatsoever, what our club or any other club can offer him to make any form if informed opinion on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I can see Dalglish maybe going to Villa now. As for Adkins. No chance. A club as big as Liverpool would never take a risk like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Go and bother someone else with your predictable statistical drivel, you tiresome turd. You are the one that disputed what he said, not me. Justify it, or retract it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Which English clubs do you think he would leave for then? Few can match or better what he has going for him at Saints right now. Maybe he might see the lack of stadium expansion in time for Premier league football as a lack of ambition from Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Maybe he might see the lack of stadium expansion in time for Premier league football as a lack of ambition from Cortese. maybe he and NC don't get on...maybe Villa will give him a hefty pay rise...who the fuk knows what I do know, is that Villa are miles bigger than saints and with the right guidance have huge potential and are a big city big club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Why would he want to do that? What can they offer him Saints can't? Massive catchment area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 You are the one that disputed what he said, not me. Justify it, or retract it. How about you just f*ck off instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 The blinded arrogance and ignorance of Saints fans never fails to amaze me. Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. Man city Man Utd Arsenal Chelsea Spurs Liverpool Newcastle Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle, Arsenal, Villa, Everton for starters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Adkins currently 55 - 60/1 if someone is that sure he is going then put a couple of grand on and post your bet slip here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. I could name more than 5, but it isn't as long a list as the Kraken seems to think. Man Utd Man City Arsenal Tottenham Chelsea Liverpool Everton Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Adkins currently 55 - 60/1 Almost worth a tenner to ease the pain if he did leave ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 16 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2012 maybe he and NC don't get on...maybe Villa will give him a hefty pay rise...who the fuk knows what I do know, is that Villa are miles bigger than saints and with the right guidance have huge potential and are a big city big club But then you've got Birmingham city and lots of Asians so in fact Southampton is bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 maybe he and NC don't get on...maybe Villa will give him a hefty pay rise...who the fuk knows what I do know, is that Villa are miles bigger than saints and with the right guidance have huge potential and are a big city big club BUT BUT BUT they only averaged 33k in a 42k stadium. Everyone knows the first thing a new manager looks at when deciding to join is their attendances v capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 The sackings at Villa and Liverpool COULD help us out, if Wigan lose RM they would go down next season, if Swans or Norwich lose there manager/s there also become poorer teams and most likely become a relegation threatened team, all we need to do his keep nigel and sign someone like jarvis and a RB and were have a team good enough of finishing 16th-14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 If Liverpool did ACTUALLY come in for our Nige, cannot for a second see Cortese grift wrapping him over for talks with a good luck card... In my book, this is not the time Adkins would choose to leave for a new project especially when he seems to so emphatically advocate the journey the club are currently living through. My money is on Nigel being here for first game of next season... So let's revisit this thread next season and recall all the forthcoming predictions which no doubt, given this thread, are undoubtedly inevitable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea Everton, Man City and United, Villa, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Its not arrogance or ignorance its realism. If you can name more than 5 clubs adkins would consider leaving us for based on current status of every club then I will accept your statement. Somehow I think you will struggle but go for it. Man City, Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea. I reckon he'd leave us in a shot to go to any of those. Wow, I struggled there. Maybe you want to re-define your criteria a bit to make it a bit tougher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle, Arsenal, Villa, Everton for starters.... I agree with that list bar Aston Villa. They are in a mess, with a poor squad and huge debts. Plus, you say "for starters" who else then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea Everton, Man City and United, Villa, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest. Did you struggle to put those together too? I know I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I'm only passing on what i've been told. I won't bother again in the future unless you say sorry for being nasty to me. Whether what you are passing on is worth passing on surely depends on who told you. If it was a friend in the pub I think that we can safely disregard it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Man city Man Utd Arsenal Chelsea Spurs Liverpool Newcastle Everton Well that was tricky........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I agree with that list bar Aston Villa. They are in a mess, with a poor squad and huge debts. Plus, you say "for starters" who else then? we were in a mess when he came...he was happy to take a big step back to go forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Villa and Nottingham Forest. I'm interested to see you justify those two. - Villa have a poor squad and huge debts. - Forest are in the Championship, just involved in a relegation battle, ownership issues up in the air, behind Saints in terms of infrastructure a stadium, academy and training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I agree with that list bar Aston Villa. They are in a mess, with a poor squad and huge debts. Plus, you say "for starters" who else then? Well we are a newly promoted team. If a club was to come in for him who was an established prem club with good funds I think he's have to think about it. We're hardly the biggest club in the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I'm interested to see you justify those two. - Villa have a poor squad and huge debts. - Forest are in the Championship, just involved in a relegation battle, ownership issues up in the air, behind Saints in terms of infrastructure a stadium, academy and training ground. You are a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 we were in a mess when he came...he was happy to take a big step back to go forward - We were not in a financial mess when Adkins joined. Cortese/Liebherr had been at the club for over a year and the club was in good shape. - We did not have a squad in a mess when Adkins joined, the majority of the League One promotion winning side was already at the club. It would take something huge to put Villa back on level footing with Saints. They have over £100 million worth of debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Because natuarlly the first thing any potential manager will look at is the attendance percentage. No - the first thing that he will look at is the money available - and there isn't any. Villa are sinking slowly in the west. Leeds are a "big" club with (sometimes) large attendances but would Nige go there? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 - We were not in a financial mess when Adkins joined. Cortese/Liebherr had been at the club for over a year and the club was in good shape. - We did not have a squad in a mess when Adkins joined, the majority of the League One promotion winning side was already at the club. It would take something huge to put Villa back on level footing with Saints. They have over £100 million worth of debt. what, their super rich owner..like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 No - the first thing that he will look at is the money available - and there isn't any. Villa are sinking slowly in the west. Leeds are a "big" club with (sometimes) large attendances but would Nige go there? I think not. how do you know there isn't any...do you work for villa..? like there was NO WAY west ham were going to spend any money last summer...yep, that is what was preached on here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 You are a moron. Which of the points I listed do you dispute? I think they all are pretty watertight. I see you are back to petty personal insults, rather than debating the points I raise in a mature manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 I'm interested to see you justify those two. - Villa have a poor squad and huge debts. - Forest are in the Championship, just involved in a relegation battle, ownership issues up in the air, behind Saints in terms of infrastructure a stadium, academy and training ground. Do you think the following would get in Saints squad? Shay Given Alan Hutton Stephen Warnock James Collins Stephen Ireland Jermaine Jenas Charles N'Zogbia Marc Alrighton Fabian Delph Stiliyan Petrov Darren Bent Gabby Abonglahor Nathan Delfonso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea Everton, Man City and United, Villa, Newcastle and Nottingham Forest. Nottingham Forest!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 No - the first thing that he will look at is the money available - and there isn't any. Villa are sinking slowly in the west. Leeds are a "big" club with (sometimes) large attendances but would Nige go there? I think not. The obvious difference being Leeds are in the championship, Villa are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Do you think the following would get in Saints squad? Shay Given Alan Hutton Stephen Warnock James Collins Stephen Ireland Jermaine Jenas Charles N'Zogbia Marc Alrighton Fabian Delph Stiliyan Petrov Darren Bent Gabby Abonglahor Nathan Delfonso the following would make our match day squad.. given warnock collins ireland N'zogbia albrighton petrov bent agbonlahor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 what, their super rich owner..like Randy Lerner has led them into this mess, he isn't as great as you think. Why would Adkins see Lerner as better than Cortese/Liebherr's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 You need a hobby MLG, you monotonous cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 Is Adkins willing to consider moving abroads? They also have some quite big clubs abroads. Possibly more than 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 As for Adkins. No chance. A club as big as Liverpool would never take a risk like that. Really depends on how much money they're looking to spend. FSG spent a wad on players for Dalglish, and sure, they can recoup some of that money back through player sales, but after this season, the only player they can truly cash in on is Suarez - the absolute last player they want to sell. So let's talk "big manager". Possible compensation and the contract would need to be bloody attractive for the person to take the job on, and no doubt FSG will have to open their wallets again. If they are really do want CL qualification next year, option one is to spend big, and make a ton of losses on money already spent. If they take that option, then you are 100% correct. Nige has no change. Option two is to take a gamble on someone less pricey, with a view to getting the most out of their existing players. If they're thinking along those lines, maybe a wee gamble, then they'd be mad not to look at Nige, imo. He's a Liverpool supporter, local lad and his worst year was getting relegated with a team he'd taken up the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Share Posted 16 May, 2012 the following would make our match day squad.. given warnock collins ireland N'zogbia albrighton petrov bent agbonlahor I'd say Hutton is better than Richardson and Jenas would get in there as well. EIther way, apparantly they've got a poor squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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