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Knowing the site, can I firstly say that I personally hope Adkins is still with us in 10 years time. Although of course he has to prove himself in the Premier league, I think that he is a top Manager and could not be more pleased he is at our club.

I am not in the know at all but I just have a sneaking feeling that all is not well with him and the chairman, can anyone hopefully in the know tell me I am wrong.

Does any one else think he may not be managing our club at the end of the season?

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No, no your being unfair. David in Sweden would thrill us all with some statistic about how many seconds it was since we had last introduced a substitute with a middle name beginning with L in precisely the 55th minute of a top division away game against Aston Villa.

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No, no your being unfair. David in Sweden would thrill us all with some statistic about how many seconds it was since we had last introduced a substitute with a middle name beginning with L in precisely the 55th minute of a top division away game against Aston Villa.

 

That was Matt Le Tissier wasn't it?

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Knowing the site, can I firstly say that I personally hope Adkins is still with us in 10 years time. Although of course he has to prove himself in the Premier league, I think that he is a top Manager and could not be more pleased he is at our club.

I am not in the know at all but I just have a sneaking feeling that all is not well with him and the chairman, can anyone hopefully in the know tell me I am wrong.

Does any one else think he may not be managing our club at the end of the season?

 

Based on.......? I have a sneaking feeling that you're full of ____.

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Knowing the site, can I firstly say that I personally hope Adkins is still with us in 10 years time. Although of course he has to prove himself in the Premier league, I think that he is a top Manager and could not be more pleased he is at our club.

I am not in the know at all but I just have a sneaking feeling that all is not well with him and the chairman, can anyone hopefully in the know tell me I am wrong.

Does any one else think he may not be managing our club at the end of the season?

 

From which part of your body does this sneaking feeling of yours come from?

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Based on.......? I have a sneaking feeling that you're full of ____.

 

 

Your reply reminds me why I havent started a thread in over 2 years.

As I said clearly in the post I am not in the know, so just based on body language, things not said, nothing tangible, which is why I started the thread in the hope that some one on here may know different.

I sincerely hope I am wrong but am just saying I have a feeling he wont be here at the end of the season.

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I'm hoping he'll be our David Moyes, albeit a more attacking version. Moyes had some difficult seasons and received plenty of criticism, but I doubt Everton would be better off under someone else.

 

New managers come in and people seem to judge it on a few games, or where they finish that season, do they keep them up etc. But really, when you take a step back and analyse it over 4 or 5 years, regular changing of managers doesn't often do enough good to justify the cost.

 

 

Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately Football chairmen these days see manager changes as the best option far to often. The results are mixed but for every example of a Wolves style fasico you get someone like Sheff wednesday who would argue it paid off to ditch the manager. I imagine NC was glad he ditched a cup final winning manager as it got him results. Personally I liked to see a rule that only allows managers to move clubs in the summer and force teams to stick with the manager they've chosen at the start of the season.

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Your reply reminds me why I havent started a thread in over 2 years.

As I said clearly in the post I am not in the know, so just based on body language, things not said, nothing tangible, which is why I started the thread in the hope that some one on here may know different.

I sincerely hope I am wrong but am just saying I have a feeling he wont be here at the end of the season.

 

To be fair you do have a point. Your feeling he wont be here at the end of next season is based on nothing tangible.

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Your reply reminds me why I havent started a thread in over 2 years.

As I said clearly in the post I am not in the know, so just based on body language, things not said, nothing tangible, which is why I started the thread in the hope that some one on here may know different.

I sincerely hope I am wrong but am just saying I have a feeling he wont be here at the end of the season.

 

Better keep the horse under lock and key then

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TDD - I actually think it would be the best thing for them - like Fergie going to Man U. They'd need to give him 3 seasons mind you as he'll not win anything for that time I'd think.

 

I worry about everything mate - makes it easier to deal with life's inevitable dissapointments

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Your reply reminds me why I havent started a thread in over 2 years.

As I said clearly in the post I am not in the know, so just based on body language, things not said, nothing tangible, which is why I started the thread in the hope that some one on here may know different.

I sincerely hope I am wrong but am just saying I have a feeling he wont be here at the end of the season.

 

If you watch the "All angles covered" clips of the final day, It is obvious there is some friction between Adkins and Cortese (Especially if you then compare it to last year) and for all the posters that dismiss it as ********, you are just kidding yourselves.

 

That doesn't mean it is serious or long lasting (I quite often fall out with my boss) but it was real on that day.

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Knowing the site, can I firstly say that I personally hope Adkins is still with us in 10 years time. Although of course he has to prove himself in the Premier league, I think that he is a top Manager and could not be more pleased he is at our club.

I am not in the know at all but I just have a sneaking feeling that all is not well with him and the chairman, can anyone hopefully in the know tell me I am wrong.

Does any one else think he may not be managing our club at the end of the season?

 

Not every worker and their boss are all 'pally', hugging and high-fiving each other when they meet a target. At the end of the day it is a business.....as long as they get on in a business sense then there is no issue and I expect both are happy

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If you watch the "All angles covered" clips of the final day, It is obvious there is some friction between Adkins and Cortese (Especially if you then compare it to last year) and for all the posters that dismiss it as ********, you are just kidding yourselves.

 

That doesn't mean it is serious or long lasting (I quite often fall out with my boss) but it was real on that day.

 

i havent seen the clip, what makes it so obvious? Genuine question, not a sarcy reply.

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Sunday People are giving legs to the Di Matteo rumour.. Let's hope that's all it is, paper talk.

Let's hope Cortese isn't going all Rupert on us :(

 

Article penned by that Alan Nixon bloke who mentioned the Sharp, Fox, Cork approaches early doors, lets hope it is nothing more.

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Sunday People are giving legs to the Di Matteo rumour.. Let's hope that's all it is, paper talk.

Let's hope Cortese isn't going all Rupert on us :(

 

Alan Nixon (Sports write for The People/The Mirror) talking about this on twitter:

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko was that your piece on Adkins Al?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 Yup. Complicated as u can see. Been a nagging doubt for a few weeks. See how this one unfolds.

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko is there a vibe in the ether? His comments after cov game were strange, we all thought something was afoot!

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 I don't know whether Adkins is fearing a problem or whether there is one. That's why I held off for weeks. Cortese wants sexy ...

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko saying that NA deserves his shot, players play for him and he has done wonders! RDM wont get cfc job but too big 4 us now

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 I don't know the workings of the top man's mind. It could be that the manager is just a bit jumpy. But heard it from three angles.

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko so imp for us to recruit prem players now for impetus in new season, not change manager! NC could risk everything

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 Big call for club. Do u go for big names or not? If u r loaded, why not? Could be a Don Mackay-Kenny Dalglish moment ...

@dankiz1 As always it will come down to the man who controls the purse strings. A situation to be watched.

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko I am torn tbh! Still think 1 or 2 experienced prem players with potential of Ince and Phillips would be way forward

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 U can't knock Cortese's management even if he is a man of mystery. Shrewd and prepared to spend. It is down to him.

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko on another note, do you think RDM will get #cfc job? Listening to players last night, vibe was no? Was capello there?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 Who knows where Chelsea go from here? Roman done what he wanted. Does he kick on or lose interest? Not my problem.

 

simon thorpe ‏@dankiz1

@reluctantnicko can see Roman walking but u r right, not our problem! more to think about seeing if saints can get 4th place lol

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@dankiz1 If u spend wisely it will put u ahead of your rivals. Money makes a big difference in bottom half.

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For all the "I want Adkins here for 10 years" talk. The fact of the matter is if we struggle people will be questioning if he is up to it and some will want him out. That's how it is.

 

It doesn't matter much what we think, the better question is what would the Chairman do if we were bottom of the league and five points adrift at Christmas ?

 

Pull the trigger I expect just like most of them would ... and that is the real nature of the game.

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I know you all dismissed the comments made to myself by Alex Pearce of Reading,reference the fact that all was not well between Cortese and Adkins,well, there is no smoke without fire I'm afraid.

Nigel is likely to be shown the door,which in my view is quite ridiculous.

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I know you all dismissed the comments made to myself by Alex Pearce of Reading,reference the fact that all was not well between Cortese and Adkins,well, there is no smoke without fire I'm afraid.

Nigel is likely to be shown the door,which in my view is quite ridiculous.

you will love it, you mean

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We've just won back to back promotions FFS, what has Di Matteo ever achieved in football management?

 

Errr, the champions league winners medal? a championship winners medal?

 

Not saying I want it to happen, but to s\ay he's achieved nothing is stupid.

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Adkins is clearly on the up. He will be a great manager IMHO. The question is whether NC has the patience to allow NA to learn and grow with teh job in hand and within whatever timeframe he has for saints domination (:D) of Europe... Ok at least major progress to a staple top 10/8 prem club. Ironically teh fact that we have gotten to the PL 2 years ahead of the so called schedule may be what makes his position a little less certain. He signed a contract not that long ago so we can assume everythig was rosey then, but suddenly we face a new and more difficult challenge and teh question taht must have crossed NCs mind is, Is NA ready for it, or would another season or so in the NPC have given him more experience?

 

In a fair world NA gets his shot and 100% backing - he has earned that right, and I love the idea of seeing him grow and develop as a manager as the club grows - its the ideal and he turns out to be our next LM with a long and successful record at saints.

 

Will NC have the patience for that or will he be expecting big things quicker than we anticipate and feel NA is currently able to deliver that? I have no doubt NA will be able to... one day, but is he ready now? I would like to think he is.

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Would be awful if Adkins gets the sack after what he's achieved the last two seasons.

 

However, if there is something to Cortese looking to replace Adkins he should do it as soon as possible rather than waiting until the season has started. Pointless to let NA oversee pre-season games and transfers if he's not going to be the man in charge.

 

Alan Nixon, who wrote article suggests it may be down to a difference in transfer strategy. Adkins wants to be sensible, but Cortese wants "sexy" and doubts NA can attract that sort of player

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Had a small conversation with Alan Nixon on Twitter this morning.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko I don't get this Adkins sacked stuff.Why would we sack one of the best young english managers who has just won 2 promotions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I don't get it either. But when u get it from three different areas over recent weeks then u can't ignore it.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko His body language wasn't as Saints fans expected it to be when we won promotion, but he did say he wanted to be here for a long time. I wish we'd sort it out soon so we can build with a new manager if it is to happen though

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett U need to be signing players. That is an 'issue' that first brought this thing to my attention. Next week or two reveals more.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko Could it be Adkins not having the stature to bring in players 'big' enough for Cortese's ambitions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett Central point to all this.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko So what kind of players have you heard we are in for? I can't imagine us 'doing a chelsea/man city'.

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett One guy wants sexy. One guy wants sensible.

 

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko What do you mean by that? Adkins wants to build gradually with young talent and Cortese wants to spend big on big names ?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I understand Cortese wants to spend a bit and go big-time. Manager looking for smart deals and been round Europe scouting.

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Had a small conversation with Alan Nixon on Twitter this morning.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko I don't get this Adkins sacked stuff.Why would we sack one of the best young english managers who has just won 2 promotions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I don't get it either. But when u get it from three different areas over recent weeks then u can't ignore it.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko His body language wasn't as Saints fans expected it to be when we won promotion, but he did say he wanted to be here for a long time. I wish we'd sort it out soon so we can build with a new manager if it is to happen though

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett U need to be signing players. That is an 'issue' that first brought this thing to my attention. Next week or two reveals more.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko Could it be Adkins not having the stature to bring in players 'big' enough for Cortese's ambitions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett Central point to all this.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko So what kind of players have you heard we are in for? I can't imagine us 'doing a chelsea/man city'.

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett One guy wants sexy. One guy wants sensible.

 

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko What do you mean by that? Adkins wants to build gradually with young talent and Cortese wants to spend big on big names ?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I understand Cortese wants to spend a bit and go big-time. Manager looking for smart deals and been round Europe scouting.

 

Very interesting. The last point there makes sense if there is an issue between them. Tough to decide who is right. I would be siding with Adkins based on what Norwich and Swansea have done with 'smart deals'. Bringing in big time players could quite easily upset the squad harmony. It's a tough one but if Cortese is going to get rid then he needs to do it in the next few weeks, or else it could turn into one huge mess not being prepared for August.

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Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett One guy wants sexy. One guy wants sensible.

 

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko What do you mean by that? Adkins wants to build gradually with young talent and Cortese wants to spend big on big names ?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I understand Cortese wants to spend a bit and go big-time. Manager looking for smart deals and been round Europe scouting.

 

Well that does not come in line with most previous stuff from Cortese that we would be self sustaining OK we have no debts due to the conversion of loans to equity but we still have little or no spare cash as that will have been paid in last years wages and January transfers. So to purchase players we would need loans from the owners or the bank on future earnings (45 mil in the next football year Approx) Which IMHO I do not think the owners will carry out for Sexy signings. Signings to allow us to stabilise and progress in the premiership yes but the likes of Messi and Ronaldo not quite yet. so I am taking this Adkins is a deadman walking with a very large pinch of salt. until of course it all falls into a pile of poo poo and it actually happens.

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Had a small conversation with Alan Nixon on Twitter this morning.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko I don't get this Adkins sacked stuff.Why would we sack one of the best young english managers who has just won 2 promotions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I don't get it either. But when u get it from three different areas over recent weeks then u can't ignore it.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko His body language wasn't as Saints fans expected it to be when we won promotion, but he did say he wanted to be here for a long time. I wish we'd sort it out soon so we can build with a new manager if it is to happen though

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett U need to be signing players. That is an 'issue' that first brought this thing to my attention. Next week or two reveals more.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko Could it be Adkins not having the stature to bring in players 'big' enough for Cortese's ambitions?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett Central point to all this.

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko So what kind of players have you heard we are in for? I can't imagine us 'doing a chelsea/man city'.

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett One guy wants sexy. One guy wants sensible.

 

 

Chris ‏@cj_garrett

@reluctantnicko What do you mean by that? Adkins wants to build gradually with young talent and Cortese wants to spend big on big names ?

 

Alan Nixon ‏@reluctantnicko

@cj_garrett I understand Cortese wants to spend a bit and go big-time. Manager looking for smart deals and been round Europe scouting.

 

Interesting but odd. It's usually the other way round with Managers wanting to spend big and Chairmen not. And how does this square with sustainability - financial fair play and all the rest of it like with the investment in the Academy and bringing players through? There may well be differences between the two but I'm not sure this is quite one of them.

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If this reporter had no previous with Saints then I would just ignore it as ********, but he was spot on about Sharp and I think a few other things as well. Very interesting to keep an eye on. I just cannot see us going and spending huge amounts of money, QPR showed that didnt really work last season whereas the building gradually that Swansea and Norwich did last season did.

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If this reporter had no previous with Saints then I would just ignore it as ********, but he was spot on about Sharp and I think a few other things as well. Very interesting to keep an eye on. I just cannot see us going and spending huge amounts of money, QPR showed that didnt really work last season whereas the building gradually that Swansea and Norwich did last season did.

that does not mean that it won't work with us...they did....blackpool also spent wisely the year before....

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Another wasted poster than I can assume is an attempt at trolling. Original Poster is blocked!

 

As I am the original poster, I am trying to understand your comment. Sorry if I have got interpretation wrong but if you are saying I was "trolling" that is not correct. Just raising a feeling I have had based on body language and what is not being said by both Adkins and Cortese. [accepting that Cortese does not say a lot any way]. The last thing I would like to see is Adkins go as I said in my original post. After a few " thick" responses am pleased to see the thread is at least being taken seriously. Still hope there is nothing in it all. Guess the next 2 to 3 weeks will show us if there is a problem.

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