Saint_Jim Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 if Downing gets on the pitch at all im going to beome french
bowers-sfc Posted 16 May, 2012 Author Posted 16 May, 2012 if Downing gets on the pitch at all im going to beome french This.
Bananaman Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 GK – Hart, Green, Ruddy DF – Baines, Cahill, Cole, Johnson, Jones, Lescott, Terry M – Barry, Downing, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Parker, Walcott, Young, Milner S – Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck
Danbert Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 What's the point we're so obviously going to get walloped anyway (again).
SNSUN Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Pleased. He's class and will continue to prove it, but unlike Walcott in '06, he needs to play. Good addition. Pleased for Ruddy too, he's had a good season. Weakest position? Attack.
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Just can't understand how a winger who hasn't scored or even got an assist all season has got in. Downing is a very average Premiership player. Can't believe he's got in over Johnson. Other than that, I think he's got it spot on. Chuffed with the inclusion of AOC. Someone who can come on and really help win us a game if need be.
Chez Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Weakest position? Attack. don't fancy our defence much either. Hart and Cole are great, the rest, meh.
Bananaman Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 so what is the top two for the first game?? Carroll and Welbeck... oh dear
saint si Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Congrats to him. Wouldn't have been on the radar even if he'd had a stunning season in the Championship.
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Oh and Glen Johnson over Micah Richards is a strange one. Richards is a far superior player and is flexible in the positions he can play which is ideal for tournament football.
John Boy Saint Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 GK – Hart, Green, Ruddy DF – Baines, Cahill, Cole, Johnson, Jones, Lescott, Terry M – Barry, Downing, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Parker (dodgy Achilles), Walcott, Young, Milner S – Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck Ooo looks a lethal line up! Especially up front, Nice break for Rooney 4 weeks in Eastern Europe and play one game! Ah well no expectations to be disappointed by.
Minsk Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Just can't understand how a winger who hasn't scored or even got an assist all season has got in. Downing is a very average Premiership player. Can't believe he's got in over Johnson. Other than that, I think he's got it spot on. Chuffed with the inclusion of AOC. Someone who can come on and really help win us a game if need be. 100% this. Every time I have seen AOC play for Arsenal this season he has been one of the best players on the pitch; Downing has been dross all season!!!!!
EBS1980 Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Carrick unlucky to miss out. Would have picked him over Barry. Barry got found out against Germany in the World Cup yet still keeps his place....
Chez Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Just can't understand how a winger who hasn't scored or even got an assist all season has got in. Downing is a very average Premiership player. I honestly rate Downing. He's two footed, an excellent crosser of the ball, gets to the byeline and is quite direct. He lacks that yard of pace that means the step up to International level might be a fraction too much for him, but he's had some good games for England. He's not had an impressive first season at LFC, but he's been overly slated and besides he's done it for years at Boro/Villa. I don't think he's average. I'd take him without thinking to our place. Far too many fans jump on the slating bandwagon who have hardly seen him live. I recall Lucas getting the same treatment. Never understood that either as whenever I have seen him play for LFC he's been solid.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 If it had not been for Bale being Welsh then surely he would have made this squad to based on class and form compared to those in there. What a credit these three have been to our academy!
Saint_clark Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 If it had not been for Bale being Welsh then surely he would have made this squad to based on class and form compared to those in there. What a credit these three have been to our academy! If Messi had not been an Argie...
saintmatt Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 I honestly rate Downing. He's two footed, an excellent crosser of the ball, gets to the byeline and is quite direct. He lacks that yard of pace that means the step up to International level might be a fraction too much for him, but he's had some good games for England. He's not had an impressive first season at LFC, but he's been overly slated and besides he's done it for years at Boro/Villa. I don't think he's average. I'd take him without thinking to our place. Far too many fans jump on the slating bandwagon who have hardly seen him live. I recall Lucas getting the same treatment. Never understood that either as whenever I have seen him play for LFC he's been solid. Agree, this happens all too much with some players
Saint Mikey Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Do we get any "add-ons" for this or anything? Just what I was thinking. Although with Walcott's, before we cashed it in - it was 20 England competitive starts. I doubt he's got that yet...
ThreeSixty Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Mixed bag imo. Great selections in Ruddy and Ox. But Downing, Milner, Johnson meh/.
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 I honestly rate Downing. He's two footed, an excellent crosser of the ball, gets to the byeline and is quite direct. He lacks that yard of pace that means the step up to International level might be a fraction too much for him, but he's had some good games for England. He's not had an impressive first season at LFC, but he's been overly slated and besides he's done it for years at Boro/Villa. I don't think he's average. I'd take him without thinking to our place. Far too many fans jump on the slating bandwagon who have hardly seen him live. I recall Lucas getting the same treatment. Never understood that either as whenever I have seen him play for LFC he's been solid. In 36 games for Liverpool he's not scored one goal or even got one assist. That's terrible, utterly terrible for a winger whose sole purpose is to provide goal scoring opportunities and chip in with the odd goal.
Bailey Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Do we get any "add-ons" for this or anything? Yes. If Chamberlain makes an appearance, Saints will be entitled to a relatively significant windfall.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 If Messi had not been an Argie... I dont think Messi was at our academy or did i miss him when he was there!
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Yes. If Chamberlain makes an appearance, Saints will be entitled to a relatively significant windfall. chicken feed compared to the TV revenue for being in the premiere (see current thread on this)
Chez Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 In 36 games for Liverpool he's not scored one goal or even got one assist. That's terrible, utterly terrible for a winger whose sole purpose is to provide goal scoring opportunities and chip in with the odd goal. I don't read much into assist stats. Have you seen the amount of chances Liverpool have failed to take and he's created a shed load of those chances. You're right that he has failed to deliver though this season, I'm just saying I rate him. Johnson ain't a world beater, nor does he play on the left.
Chez Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 chicken feed compared to the TV revenue for being in the premiere (see current thread on this) every penny helps especially if means ticket prices and taxes don't go through the roof
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 I don't read much into assist stats. Have you seen the amount of chances Liverpool have failed to take and he's created a shed load of those chances. You're right that he has failed to deliver though this season, I'm just saying I rate him. Johnson ain't a world beater, nor does he play on the left. Joe Cole has had a decent season for Lille. He would've been on the radar had he been playing over here. Instead, he's the forgotten man over in France.
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 (edited) Sod going to the euros. OxO should have stayed so he could have played against Barnsley Edited 16 May, 2012 by Thedelldays
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 As for Richards being so good... Just hearing a conversation with an ex pro in the radio and they reckon Richards is poor defensively and positionally but attracts the eye as he is quick and spends more time in the oppo half. Also, there is a reason why he never starts an important game for city and successive managers over look him
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 As for Richards being so good... Just hearing a conversation with an ex pro in the radio and they reckon Richards is poor defensively and positionally but attracts the eye as he is quick and spends more time in the oppo half. Also, there is a reason why he never starts an important game for city and successive managers over look him If Mancini doesn't rate him, why did he make him captain when Kompany was suspended? The reason he doesn't start for City in the more important games is down to the style they play in those games, him bombing on down the line doesn't fit in with that.
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 As for Richards being so good... Just hearing a conversation with an ex pro in the radio and they reckon Richards is poor defensively and positionally but attracts the eye as he is quick and spends more time in the oppo half. Also, there is a reason why he never starts an important game for city and successive managers over look him Richards over Glen Johnson everyday of the week.
View From The Top Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Richards over Glen Johnson everyday of the week. Without a doubt.
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 If Mancini doesn't rate him, why did he make him captain when Kompany was suspended? The reason he doesn't start for City in the more important games is down to the style they play in those games, him bombing on down the line doesn't fit in with that. Well, he should be able to restrain back Zabaleta and clichy get forward plenty. They play a similar stator to us. Zabaleta was forward as much he scored on sunday
doddisalegend Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 So whats Carroll done to get a call up? surely Grant Holt should have been given a chance scoring a lot more goals in arguably a far worse team.
saintalton Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 How on earth has rob 'calamity' green got in the squad ahead of kelvin, and carroll ahead of rickie, absolute joke. Im not a fan of international football but would of been great for kelvin and rickie to of been called up, not being one eyed but i think they would of added more to the squad than those two. Coyr
Bensfcno1 Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Anyone else feel sorry for Kelvin for not even getting a mention? at the end of the day he conceded less than Green who seems to be Englands second choice for the summer.
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Ha, Roy was impressed how AOC played against Pirlo when they met AC Milan. Pirlo plays for Juventus. That just shows how good he is. He can skin player that are not even in the same city as him.
This Charming Man Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Well, he should be able to restrain back Zabaleta and clichy get forward plenty. They play a similar stator to us. Zabaleta was forward as much he scored on sunday Not always that simple. Hence why we dropped Richardson for Butterfield towards the end of the season to give us a bit more stability at the back. Richardson is a better player but Butterfield was more suited to our needs at that time. Zabaleta was forward on Sunday as they were playing a poor side, they were camped in the QPR half for the entire 90mins and had to win the game in order to win the league.
Gemmel Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Jack Butland Birmingham - Official Standby player So there is a bit of the Championship in there (Never Heard of him)
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Besides, if Richards was in the squad and people were saying it should have been Glenn Johnson, I'm fairly sure DD would be arguing the other way. Not really. Just find it amazing how he is being built up as a great player when countless managers now over look him for the big games. It's not a coincidence Johnson is alright. I would have taken Richards over jones. But nothing between them IMO
patred44 Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 do we get any extra cash from Arse for Oxo making the England team ???
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Jack Butland Birmingham - Official Standby player So there is a bit of the Championship in there (Never Heard of him) Very highly rated GK who has been out on loan, Cheltenham I think.
Saint Charlie Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 do we get any extra cash from Arse for Oxo making the England team ??? As has been said earlier in the thread, yes but we are unsure of the exact terms. Might be after 10 apps, either way we will.
St_Tel49 Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 I dont think Messi was at our academy or did i miss him when he was there! Yeah - he looked sh***. Lallana was much better
DaveyR Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Thankfully I have no expectations of England achieving anything in the Euros and the squad selection has just confirmed my meh!
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Agreed 100%. OTHER THAN THE FACT HE HAS INCLUDED A COMPLETE AND UTTER CLUELESS C*NT WHO SOMEHOW MANAGES TO CONVINCE OTHER CLUELESS C*NTS THAT HE IS WORTHY OF BEING ON A C*NTING FOOTBALL PITCH!!!!!! Downing is f*cking SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*T! What the actual f*ck!? Does someone not have to at some point say... What does he actually do? FFS! How do they do it????!!! C*NT!
EBS1980 Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Very highly rated GK who has been out on loan, Cheltenham I think. And someone i would like to have as number 2 next season to Kelvin. Think he will be the England number 2 in the coming years.
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