S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Has anyone got any specific preferences as to who they'd like to see called up? Apparently, according to some well placed twitter rumours, Woy has 'made his mark' with the 23 and there will be numerous surprises.
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 we are not going to get anywhere...getting out of the group will be good I would like to see 1 future player in each area of position... 3rd keeper to be a young one (don't know who) a young defender...maybe ensure kyle walker goes a young CM..Dunno OxO to go and I would like to see grant holt go
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Id like to see the squad with an eye to the future, play Gerrard properly and drop Lampard and Terry
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 we are not going to get anywhere...getting out of the group will be good I would like to see 1 future player in each area of position... 3rd keeper to be a young one (don't know who) a young defender...maybe ensure kyle walker goes a young CM..Dunno OxO to go and I would like to see grant holt go Would you choose Holt over Crouch or Carroll? I kind of feel sorry for Carroll as he's been made to look **** because of the transfer fee, but he still has some decent attributes which make him a threat. Just doesn't score anywhere near enough for me. I'd expect to see Walker go, and Richards for RB. Rio, Terry, Cahill and Jones for CB. LB will be Cole and Gibbs IMO. Would have loved to have been able to take Wiltshire for CM, as I think he's a class above. Not sure who else we really have in there who is 'young'. Oxo and Theo will go IMO, and Lennon possibly....
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Id like to see the squad with an eye to the future, play Gerrard properly and drop Lampard and Terry Nah, pick the best team possible, that has the best chance of winning games.
Crab Lungs Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 (edited) Here's my lot. Goalkeepers; Joe Hart, David Stockdale, Jason Steele. Defenders: Micah Richards, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Phil Jagielka, Chris Smalling. Midfielders: Scott Parker, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young, Theo Walcott, Aaron Lennon, Adam Johnson, Leon Britton, Michael Carrick. Strikers: Wayne Rooney, Jermaine Defoe, Peter Crouch, Danny Welbeck. On standby for CL's England in bold italic; Others to consider for your squad; Robert Green, Ben Amos, Frankie Fielding, Scott Carson, John Ruddy, Keiron Gibbs, Leighton Baines, Ryan Shawcross, Joleon Lescott, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Stephen Warnock, Stewart Downing, Leon Osman, Danny Murphy, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Gareth Barry, James Milner, Tom Cleverley, Matt Jarvis, Adam Lallana (), Anthony Pilkington, Steven Gerrard, Joe Cole, Grant Holt, Darren Bent, Daniel Sturridge, Andy Carroll, Danny Graham, Bobby Zamora, Gary Hooper, Rickie Lambert (). Injuries and Retirements; Paul Scholes, Ben Foster, Paul Robinson, Tom Huddlestone, Michael Dawson, Jack Rodwell and Jack Wilshere. Edited 15 May, 2012 by Crab Lungs
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Would you choose Holt over Crouch or Carroll? I kind of feel sorry for Carroll as he's been made to look **** because of the transfer fee, but he still has some decent attributes which make him a threat. Just doesn't score anywhere near enough for me. I'd expect to see Walker go, and Richards for RB. Rio, Terry, Cahill and Jones for CB. LB will be Cole and Gibbs IMO. Would have loved to have been able to take Wiltshire for CM, as I think he's a class above. Not sure who else we really have in there who is 'young'. Oxo and Theo will go IMO, and Lennon possibly.... jones has been terrible this season...no way should he go..but he will My forwards would be.. Rooney Carroll Holt Welbeck with Young OxO Walcott Sturridge for the wide forwards Gerrard and Lampard will both go Terry will go Lescott Should be a starter..been excellent for city
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 jones has been terrible this season...no way should he go..but he will My forwards would be.. Rooney Carroll Holt Welbeck with Young OxO Walcott Sturridge for the wide forwards Gerrard and Lampard will both go Terry will go Lescott Should be a starter..been excellent for city Forgot about Lescott! Yep, he should go. Always good to have ''winners'' in the squad, so Barry, Lescott and Adam Johnson for me too. I wouldn't be surprised to see a certain Scholes get a call though...
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Forgot about Lescott! Yep, he should go. Always good to have ''winners'' in the squad, so Barry, Lescott and Adam Johnson for me too. I wouldn't be surprised to see a certain Scholes get a call though... dunno about johnson..hardly played this year...where as Barry and Lescott have been key in the title win
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Sorry Crabby how anyone can pick Lampard over Gerrard is beyond me
skintsaint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Lampard for me has had another solid season - not sure why he gets so much stick, stick him in an advanced centre midfield position and not too deep and let him cause trouble, where Gerrard hasn't done anything really except be injury a fair bit. Gerrard on his day is more dynamic than Lampard but I feel the Gerrard of old won't be seen anymore, too many injuries.
Crab Lungs Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 I'm not even a massive fan of Lampard but I can't stand Gerrard. He pretty much single-handedly disrupts the flow of teams with his Roy of the Rovers guff.
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Lampard for me has had another solid season - not sure why he gets so much stick, stick him in an advanced centre midfield position and not too deep and let him cause trouble, where Gerrard hasn't done anything really except be injury a fair bit. Gerrard on his day is more dynamic than Lampard but I feel the Gerrard of old won't be seen anymore, too many injuries. Agrred, unbelievable the stick that Lampard gets, quality footballer, decent attitude, never get why anyone has a problem with him.
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 I'm not even a massive fan of Lampard but I can't stand Gerrard. He pretty much single-handedly disrupts the flow of teams with his Roy of the Rovers guff. People were not saying that when he was deployed with right tactics and players, he is surrounded by guff at Liverpool now a days, brilliant player if you usehim right. I hate Lampard, and TBH much like Gerrard he needs to be shielded by other players.
stkev7 Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Agrred, unbelievable the stick that Lampard gets, quality footballer, decent attitude, never get why anyone has a problem with him. Agreed, I get so f*cked off how people worship Gerrard and the fact that he can't do anything wrong. Lampard deserves his place in the squad after the 2nd half of the season he has had.
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 People were not saying that when he was deployed with right tactics and players, he is surrounded by guff at Liverpool now a days, brilliant player if you usehim right. I hate Lampard, and TBH much like Gerrard he needs to be shielded by other players. Why do you hate Lampard?
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 lampard is a good player....any player that stands out in an attacking sense regularly against the very best club teams in europe has to go
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Lampard is a good player, I do agree, but positionally he isnt an aweful lot better than Gerrard, the dufference is he is still playing with decent midfielders were as Gerrards playing with absolute garbage ATM. My issue is that the england squad for the Euros should be loaded with players that will be in their prime at the next WC, gerrard 'may' make it, Lampard will not, add to that fact that we have consistantly wasted our second best midfielder of a generation trying to play Lamps or Gerrard together instead of utilising either in the way they play for their first teams and the fact that I still have the image of him laughing and joking after the mess of south africa and Germany.
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 [h=1]Euro 2012: Rio Ferdinand to be left out of England squad [/h] England manager Roy Hodgson is set to omit defender Rio Ferdinand from his squad for Euro 2012 while Kyle Walker misses out through injury. Ferdinand, 33, has not played for the national side since the 2-2 draw with Switzerland in June last year. Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson recently raised doubts about the centre-back's ability to play tournament football. Tottenham right-back Walker, 21, is absent with a toe injury. The Spurs defender, who won his two England caps in November last year, sustained the problem in the 2-0 victory over Fulham at the weekend. Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp had initially suggested that Walker's injury was minor and that he would be fit to link up with Hodgson's squad.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 No Rio either by the looks of it. Injured? Or problems with JT? EDIT: Just read the post above.
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Lampard > Gerrard. I guess Gary Cahill is fit then?!
Saints foreva Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Rumours that Bobby Zamora is included in the squad.
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 Rumours that Bobby Zamora is included in the squad. Wouldn't surprise me, he had his best years under Roy at Fulham iirc.
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 My Squad- Goalkeepers; Joe Hart, Rob Green, John Ruddy. Defenders: Joleon Lescott, Micah Richards, Gary Cahill, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Phil Jones, Kieron Gibbs Midfielders: Scott Parker, Frank Lampard, Ashley Young, Theo Walcott, AOC, James Milner, Steven Gerrard, Michael Carrick. Strikers: Jermaine Defoe, Peter Crouch, Danny Welbeck, Wayne Rooney, Andy Carroll
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Rumours that Bobby Zamora is included in the squad. Better than Grant Holt
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Oh- Tweet from Henry Winter #eng Euro 2012 squad: Rio Ferdinand OUT, dropped, may retire. Peter Crouch OUT, dropped. Micah Richards OUT, dropped. Kyle Walker OUT, inj
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 Shocked that Micah hasn't made it, esp. with Kyle Walker out..................who else have we got at RB other than Glen J? unless Neville is coming as player coach
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Phil Headless chicken Jones or Glen cant jump or defend Johnson for RB.....ffs
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 Phil Jagelka also rumored to be missing out. Carroll looks to be going, and so does Joe Cole...?
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 I'm not shocked about Richards Been a very long time since he played an important game for city. Mancini does not trust him positionally! Hence why zabaleta plays
Thedelldays Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Phil jones is just now way good enough. An I missing something with him. Poor for UTD. Yet gets talked up about being the future England captain
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 I dont think its positionally I heard ge basically tires early in games. Id take Carroll especially if crouch doesnt go. That said, with no decent RB, well, its gonna be a LLOOOOONNGG summer
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Surely he can't be thinking Glen Johnson is the answer? Joe Cole?! Really!?
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 Surely he can't be thinking Glen Johnson is the answer? Joe Cole?! Really!? That's what seems to be coming out at the mo via journos on twitter.
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2012 Author Posted 15 May, 2012 lol @ people spreading rumours about Paul Konchesky being the backup LB...
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2012 Posted 15 May, 2012 Any coincidence that Crouch's caps gave dried up now he's no longer playing for a 'big' club?
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 So Ferdinand has been dropped. Clearing the way for Terry to go ?? Well, England can go f**k itself for my support if he goes. Really, really hoping this is the last we see of the likes of Terry and Lampard.
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 So Ferdinand has been dropped. Clearing the way for Terry to go ?? Well, England can go f**k itself for my support if he goes. Really, really hoping this is the last we see of the likes of Terry and Lampard. I wouldn't take Rio or JT personally. Totally agree with you on the likes of them & fat frank. I can't wait for the day they retire from international footy.
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 I hope Roy f*cks the lot of them off. They've failed badly in the last two tournaments. Do what the Germans did and start with a young team and build for the next world cup.
View From The Top Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Not Downing. He's a worse winger than me, and I'm sh.it (as will be evidenced at SMS on the 23rd)
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Not Downing. He's a worse winger than me, and I'm sh.it (as will be evidenced at SMS on the 23rd) Christ, how did he cost nearly £20m?
MOSaint Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Stewart Downing 2011-12: league goals: 0 league assists: 0 England international
Um Bongo Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Good to see Chambo going. Some genuine pace is needed.
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Good to see Chambo going. Some genuine pace is needed. What is the difference between pace and genuine pace we hear so much about? Do you think next season we can expect to sign players who have Saints pace?
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 MLT has discussed this many times on soccer saturday. It isn't just this season. Downing has an appalling record, at Villa, at Boro. It's 1 goal a season or nothing. This is an attacker who gets a lot of the ball, it's bizarre. He has a good left foot, even with confidence issues you'd expect some goals. I wouldn't be so harsh on him if it wasn't for the fact England had countless good wide options. Players I'd play out wide before Downing: Walcott Young Chamberlain Johnson Joe Cole Lennon Milner Sturridge Lallana Jarvis Scott Sinclair Not Milner, one of the most over rated players in the country. On that not centre halves Id take over Terry JagIelka Smalling Cahill Dawson King (if fit) Lescott
iansums Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 So Ferdinand has been dropped. Clearing the way for Terry to go ?? Well, England can go f**k itself for my support if he goes. Really, really hoping this is the last we see of the likes of Terry and Lampard. Would that be the type of support we see from you on the match threads when we go 1-0 down?
alpine_saint Posted 16 May, 2012 Posted 16 May, 2012 Would that be the type of support we see from you on the match threads when we go 1-0 down? Nope, I wouldnt waste such emotion on England.
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