stev2001 Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Since NA has been manager we have always finished 2nd. I don't see any reason for next season to be any different. As long as its not second from bottom! Or second in every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 yes, as long as the bottom 3 are all relegated at least 1 month before the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvaughanwilliams Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 I'd take 17th. I hope for better and I'm sure that the club are aiming for better. I expect Nigel, in common with other managers, will stress the importance of survival in all of his interviews for at least the first half of the season. I want the club to be run with financial stability and would not want the long term future of the club to be gambled for the sake of chasing unrealistic dreams. Stoke are probably a good benchmark for us. They have spent money sensibly, slowly improving their squad over the years. Obviously I don't want to see us copying their playing style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 No , but if we don't get rid of the dead wood who struggled horribly in the Championship, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 No , but if we don't get rid of the dead wood who struggled horribly in the Championship, probably. To be fair, I don't think we really have any deadwood at our club these days. Forecast and Forte are probably the only 2 you could state as current dead wood. Everyone else played a part at some stage this season, fair enough - certain players may struggle next season, but it's a bit harsh to say they're dead wood already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo That's us buggered then if Dalek is predicting Top 2 Don't worry this is not my official prediction ! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 12 May, 2012 Share Posted 12 May, 2012 You have to bear in mind that with the transfer window the way it is Nigel only gets 1 shot ( probably too late by January) to get in the right players and decide which of the present squad will make it in the prem. bearing in mind that many were playing in league 1 a year ago. So although I think we have the potential to finish much higher I would settle for 17th in our 1st season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 12 May, 2012 Share Posted 12 May, 2012 Damn right. Without a shadow of a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 Since NA has been manager we have always finished 2nd. I don't see any reason for next season to be any different. I said that about post 2 or 3 here or somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 I would take that - but please without a great escape this time - to much for my old heart to take these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 As the title really... I know cortese would probably have much higher aspirations which will be interesting to manage, would you take it right now if offered or are we/will be better than that? Me.... Through gritted teeth, yes I would I guess years of prem struggle are bred into me by now! No i would not - i want better than this and I really do believe we will achieve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Saint Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 Shoot for the stars and we might just get the moon. Too many sides want 'safety'. Where's the fun in that? Let's not mess about, let's expect to be winners. Top 8 finish minimum and FA Cup winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 No there are only 8 to 10 teams we cannot yet compete with assuming we make a few good signings to strengthen! However we should be able to at least compete with Reading Hammers or Blackpool QPR Swansea Norwich Wigan Stoke Fulham West Brom Maybe Sunderland Aston villa Unlikely Manu Manc Arsenal Spurs Newcastle Liverpool Everton So am hoping for a solid mid table 10 to 13 place as a good consolidation position to kick on from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedmaul Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 Shoot for the stars and we might just get the moon. Too many sides want 'safety'. Where's the fun in that? Let's not mess about, let's expect to be winners. Top 8 finish minimum and FA Cup If this is a representative opinion we might be in trouble. The name of the game next season is staying up ... We've overachieved so far, with the squad we've got. 17th I'd take in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 13 May, 2012 Share Posted 13 May, 2012 Shoot for the stars and we might just get the moon. Too many sides want 'safety'. Where's the fun in that? Let's not mess about, let's expect to be winners. Top 8 finish minimum and FA Cup If this is a representative opinion we might be in trouble. The name of the game next season is staying up ... We've overachieved so far, with the squad we've got. 17th I'd take in a heartbeat. Totally agree with this, 17th or higher would be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey Saint Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 Shoot for the stars and we might just get the moon. Too many sides want 'safety'. Where's the fun in that? Let's not mess about, let's expect to be winners. Top 8 finish minimum and FA Cup If this is a representative opinion we might be in trouble. The name of the game next season is staying up ... We've overachieved so far, with the squad we've got. 17th I'd take in a heartbeat. How might my personal expectation mean 'we might be in trouble'? It's an opinion for goodness sake. I am a fan; that's all I am. I have no influence on team selection or the way the team plays. The title of this thread is to do with a guarantee of minimal expectation. Well, I don't want that. How sad is it to accept a 'just good enough' final position before a ball has been kicked? I expect my team to win (otherwise why go to games, why support at all?), that's the name of the game. I get disappointed if they lose. I feel good when they win. Next year I daresay we'll maybe be given the runaround by the Manchester clubs and possibly by the north London ones. I expect us however to win 14 or 15 other games minimum and pick up a few draws. I might be disappointed. So what? Rather risk that than insuring against possible disappointment by accepting the hypothetical 'guarantee' of just avoiding relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 Right now, no. Would want to be top half. But if we're in the bottom 5 come the last month of the season then yes. Of course. Just depends how the season goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 Right now, no. Would want to be top half. But if we're in the bottom 5 come the last month of the season then yes. Of course. Just depends how the season goes Its no good answering the question 'NO' then say but if we are struggling then yes. I'd not be happy with 17th but if someone could guarantee me 17th now I'd bite there arm off as it would guarantee another year in the prem to build from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 I'm sure the team will be looking for something better next season, but yes - of course I would take 17th in our first season back. IMO we need to make sure we are in the Premier League for the next three seasons. If we can do that then I think we will be in a once-in-a-lifetime position to push the club forward. The new financial restrictions will be taking effect around then and I genuinely believe with the infrastructure that we have that we could become a major force. Most people would laugh at that right now, but why not? We have got one of the best youth development structures, if not the best, within English football, and we should be proud of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 I'm sure the team will be looking for something better next season, but yes - of course I would take 17th in our first season back. IMO we need to make sure we are in the Premier League for the next three seasons. If we can do that then I think we will be in a once-in-a-lifetime position to push the club forward. The new financial restrictions will be taking effect around then and I genuinely believe with the infrastructure that we have that we could become a major force. Most people would laugh at that right now, but why not? We have got one of the best youth development structures, if not the best, within English football, and we should be proud of that. Good post, I agree completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 Its no good answering the question 'NO' then say but if we are struggling then yes. I'd not be happy with 17th but if someone could guarantee me 17th now I'd bite there arm off as it would guarantee another year in the prem to build from. oh, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 (edited) oh, sorry. You should go on deal or no deal and say no to the banker but only on the condition that if it starts to go bad then you can go back and say yes. Edited 14 May, 2012 by stev2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 As the pundits said on Match of the Day yesterday, it must be encouraging for Southampton and Reading to see how Swansea and Norwich have fared in the Premiership since their promotions this season. I see absolutely no reason to believe that we could not do at least as well as them, as it is my opinion that we are as good as they were, if not better than them at the point where they gained promotion. Neither of them broke the bank with extra players before they began their Premiership campaigns and with a little bit of fine-tuning we could do the same. Adkins is as good a manager as Norwich's and Swansea's, so there is no area where they have any sort of advantage over us, on the contrary, if anything our financial situation could give us the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 I've had fun over the last 7 years. The Championship doesn't fill me with the dread it did in 2005. Even if we go straight back down, we will go down wealthy, and in a good position to press on. We shouldn't shy away from offering bigger contracts, but we should ensure that there are good relegation clauses imbedded into them - I want all new contracts to include a 50% reduction in wage clause for any relegation. Would I take finishing 4th from bottom now? As relegation doesn't worry me, no.. I'd rather we risked a bit more, and aimed a bit higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 If we stick to our principles, and continue to play football the right way I see no reason we cannot continue to prosper. Would I take 17th now, yes but I think with 3/4 good signings then we can easily do what Swansea & Norwich have done. Aim for the stars if we fall a little short then no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 May, 2012 Share Posted 14 May, 2012 I've had fun over the last 7 years. The Championship doesn't fill me with the dread it did in 2005. Even if we go straight back down, we will go down wealthy, and in a good position to press on. We shouldn't shy away from offering bigger contracts, but we should ensure that there are good relegation clauses imbedded into them - I want all new contracts to include a 50% reduction in wage clause for any relegation. Would I take finishing 4th from bottom now? As relegation doesn't worry me, no.. I'd rather we risked a bit more, and aimed a bit higher. Yep, agree very much with this. The bottom half of the Premier League has been filled with mediocrity for a number of years; that Swansea and Norwich have done so well is testament to the fact that they actually gave it a go and went for victories instead of the typical park the bus approach. There's really not a great deal between 10th place and 20th place in the Premier League. I think we need to strengthen quite a bit this summer to be good enough, but I also think we will do that, and as a consequence should be aiming for mid-table as a form of consolidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatvianTolix Posted 15 May, 2012 Share Posted 15 May, 2012 No way will it happen mate. WE will finish safely somewhere in midtable. Guess 12th-14th place in first season should be fine. After that - only upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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