jjsaint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I'd say most of the decent comedy for years has been left wing. The only right wing "comedy" I can think of off-hand would be Jim Davidson and Jeremy Clarkson. As for left wing comedy off the top of my head: Stewart Lee George Carlin Bill Hicks Bill Maher Eddie Izzard Richard Herring Alexei Sayle Jeremy Hardy Chris Morris Mark Thomas Mark Steel plus just about every bit of satirical comedy in the eighties. I have no problem with liking a comedian who is left-wing. However I find 'left-wing humour' hard to take - people whose 'message' is more important than the actually comedy itself. I find Mark Steele, Bill Maher, Alexei Sayle, Chris Morris and Ben Elton to be especially irritating. In addition the main targets of these 'comedians' to be people who hold the same views as myself, and politicians that I admire. I can take a joke, but it does get a bit tiresome. George Carlin was different. He was of a different time, when conservative America really did call the shots, kids were being drafted into the Vietnam War and racial inequality was rife. He picked on the strong, the powerful and the rich. He was gentle and intelligent. And fun. It's a much more liberal world now. Today's left-wing comedians strike me as mostly nasty, spiteful spoiled little brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I'm sorry to go off topic, but has anyone else noticed that Eric is getting just a little bit cocky these days? I don't think he was cocky before now, so I am assuming he recently had a largish infusion of cock sometime recently! Dune of course has not been cocky for a while on this thread, so maybe he has lost it. Maybe given his cock away? Oh! Maybe he gave it to Eric! That would explain everything! Dune gave Eric his cock, and now Eric is full of Dune's cock! OK, Sorry guys, now I'm just being offensive...................Or just a little cocky?.......Hmmmm, is that you again, Dune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I just like comedians that make me laugh. If they feel the need to have a "message" then they're not usually funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I have no problem with liking a comedian who is left-wing. However I find 'left-wing humour' hard to take - people whose 'message' is more important than the actually comedy itself. I find Mark Steele, Bill Maher, Alexei Sayle, Chris Morris and Ben Elton to be especially irritating. In addition the main targets of these 'comedians' to be people who hold the same views as myself, and politicians that I admire. I can take a joke, but it does get a bit tiresome. George Carlin was different. He was of a different time, when conservative America really did call the shots, kids were being drafted into the Vietnam War and racial inequality was rife. He picked on the strong, the powerful and the rich. He was gentle and intelligent. And fun. It's a much more liberal world now. Today's left-wing comedians strike me as mostly nasty, spiteful spoiled little brats. You just don't agree with the politics, that's all. If the target were more to your liking you would think it funny. How is this hard to understand? Comedy is subjective. Left wing comedy is funny to left wingers, and right wing comedy is funny to racist paedophiles. See what I did there? It was comedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 If the target were more to your liking you would think it funny. Not so sure I would. I think mediocre comedy is mediocre no matter what. And I am not a racist paedophile. I treat all paedophiles equally regardless of race colour or creed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Not so sure I would. I think mediocre comedy is mediocre no matter what. And I am not a racist paedophile. I treat all paedophiles equally regardless of race colour or creed. So, you didn't get the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 So, you didn't get the joke. sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I have no problem with liking a comedian who is left-wing. However I find 'left-wing humour' hard to take - people whose 'message' is more important than the actually comedy itself. I find Mark Steele, Bill Maher, Alexei Sayle, Chris Morris and Ben Elton to be especially irritating. In addition the main targets of these 'comedians' to be people who hold the same views as myself, and politicians that I admire. I can take a joke, but it does get a bit tiresome. George Carlin was different. He was of a different time, when conservative America really did call the shots, kids were being drafted into the Vietnam War and racial inequality was rife. He picked on the strong, the powerful and the rich. He was gentle and intelligent. And fun. It's a much more liberal world now. Today's left-wing comedians strike me as mostly nasty, spiteful spoiled little brats. I can see why you'd find some you list irritating, but that doesn't mean they're not funny. Elton's influence was all over the Blackadder series beyond the first, and that show was excellent for its time. He was also involved in the Young Ones, another massively influential show - so many sitcoms that followed riffed on the "anything can happen" angle. I like most people on that list. Bill Hicks is my all-time fav, and I loved that he had something to say. I'm not really onboard with the idea of comedy as a politically inert thing. It can be, but a wry joke can have more impact on public opinion than an essay. What do people remember about John Prescott? Two Jags, or two jabs Ok, the fact that he punched an assailant does come into it, but the joke stuck in the public mind better than any of the analyses produced at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Not so sure I would. I think mediocre comedy is mediocre no matter what. And I am not a racist paedophile. I treat all paedophiles equally regardless of race colour or creed. So, you didn't get the joke. Erm, you didnt get JJs joke Ohio.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Erm, you didnt get JJs joke Ohio.... Some jokes need to be labled. Like that one. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Surely Ben Elton would be classified as Lefty and at times even funny!! Yes and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Bill Hicks is my all-time fav, and I loved that he had something to say. Never heard of him - I might have a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Take it any way you like, do people really think that humour not pandering to their political sway is less/more funny? If this is the way people think, then the problem lies not with the humour, but with oneself. If you can ridicule yourself, then maybe you can find humour wherever it exists. If you cannot ridicule yourself, then you will most likely only find humour in the misfortune of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I'm sorry to go off topic, but has anyone else noticed that Eric is getting just a little bit cocky these days? I don't think he was cocky before now, so I am assuming he recently had a largish infusion of cock sometime recently! Dune of course has not been cocky for a while on this thread, so maybe he has lost it. Maybe given his cock away? Oh! Maybe he gave it to Eric! That would explain everything! Dune gave Eric his cock, and now Eric is full of Dune's cock! OK, Sorry guys, now I'm just being offensive...................Or just a little cocky?.......Hmmmm, is that you again, Dune? Oi ..... one more cheap shot like that nd you're on The Ignore List .... until resumption of the matchday freds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Never heard of him - I might have a listen. He's Dead... so you may need You tube... but you wont like him he's Left Wing and lets the Repubicans know it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 All the best comedians are dead. It's not because they are better. It's just because they are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 (edited) Oi ..... one more cheap shot like that nd you're on The Ignore List .... until resumption of the matchday freds Oh c'mon Eric! You know it wasn't personal! I was using you as a tool! You know! To get at Dune! I was just using you as a tool, a pliant bendy tool that I could manipulate to form a firm, long dagger to thrust into Dune, over and over, thrust, thrust thrust. sticking you into Dune over and over like a long firm meat dagger, thrust thrust thrust!!! Until we all fall into a heap on the floor, spent and flacid, like a well used dish rag. Sometimes, Eric, I think you are just too sensitive. Which, of course can be a good thing. Edited 10 May, 2012 by Ohio Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Still waiting for Dune to justify his own thread though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Take it any way you like, do people really think that humour not pandering to their political sway is less/more funny? If this is the way people think, then the problem lies not with the humour, but with oneself. If you can ridicule yourself, then maybe you can find humour wherever it exists. If you cannot ridicule yourself, then you will most likely only find humour in the misfortune of others. Very well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Very well put. I trust your opinion because you wear a top hat and use a manacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I trust your opinion because you wear a top hat and use a manacle. Quite right too, my man. Now doff that cap, there's a good fellow. I prefer my manacles in pairs, but I don't like to make a spectacle of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I trust your opinion because you wear a top hat and use a manacle. How do you know what he gets up to in his leisure hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Take it any way you like, do people really think that humour not pandering to their political sway is less/more funny? If this is the way people think, then the problem lies not with the humour, but with oneself. If you can ridicule yourself, then maybe you can find humour wherever it exists. If you cannot ridicule yourself, then you will most likely only find humour in the misfortune of others. I seem to remember, not so very many years ago, a number of comedians and others many of who would probably be left-of-centre, making a huge fuss about humour that wasn't "politically correct" - that is "humour not pandering to their political sway" (and their influence is still with us). These include some of the comedians already mentioned in this thread. So you're saying they have a problem? Personally, I've never found "ridiculing" anyone to be very funny. It's easy and it's cheap, but it's seldom witty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 He's Dead... so you may need You tube... but you wont like him he's Left Wing and lets the Repubicans know it... I think he'll like him. Hicks was left wing but was so much more than that. JJ has already stated his like of George Carlin. ("George Carlin was different. He was of a different time, when conservative America really did call the shots, kids were being drafted into the Vietnam War and racial inequality was rife. He picked on the strong, the powerful and the rich. He was gentle and intelligent. And fun.") Ok, Hicks wasn't exactly gentle, but he was a shed load of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Lefties are boring and spectacularly unfunny/non-humourous because they tend to be pompous, superior, arrogant, condescending and above all, utter, utter HYPOCRITES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Lefties are boring and spectacularly unfunny/non-humourous because they tend to be pompous, superior, arrogant, condescending and above all, utter, utter HYPOCRITES. Have you never heard the saying 'people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Have you never heard the saying 'people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'? Yes, but I dont consider myself to be any of those. I would consider myself to be impatient and a little insecure, neither of which has any sort of correlation to the left-wing characteristics I listed above. For examples of the personality trait I've listed in left-wingers, you need look no further than the likes of George Galloway and Polly Toynbee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Lefties are boring and spectacularly unfunny/non-humourous because they tend to be pompous, superior, arrogant, condescending and above all, utter, utter HYPOCRITES. And from that, and the OP, it's safe to assume that you and Dune are masters of the sweeping generalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 am watching the Iron Lady right now we simply have no one that comes close to her (or many from that era) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 am watching the Iron Lady right now we simply have no one that comes close to her (or many from that era) Sadly. The nation is crying out for that sort of leadership currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 I think he'll like him. Hicks was left wing but was so much more than that. JJ has already stated his like of George Carlin. ("George Carlin was different. He was of a different time, when conservative America really did call the shots, kids were being drafted into the Vietnam War and racial inequality was rife. He picked on the strong, the powerful and the rich. He was gentle and intelligent. And fun.") Ok, Hicks wasn't exactly gentle, but he was a shed load of fun. Bill Hicks was preacher and reprobate combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Yes, but I dont consider myself to be any of those. I would consider myself to be impatient and a little insecure, neither of which has any sort of correlation to the left-wing characteristics I listed above. For examples of the personality trait I've listed in left-wingers, you need look no further than the likes of George Galloway and Polly Toynbee. I couldn't agree with you more about Galloway. The irony, of course, being that he calls his party Respect but if you've ever listened to his radio phone-in show he is actually the rudest and most disrespectful tvv@t you could ever imagine. But how do you come to the conclusion that anybody who considers themselves 'on the left' (whatever that actual means in this day and age) shares the same characteristics? Honestly I would like to know how you can justify such a ridiculous sweeping generalisation. I try not to get involved in the left/right arguments on here and other forums but it is my observation that people on the right tend to be the ones most often applying irrational stereotypes and your post is one of the most spectacular examples of that I have ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 ... A Tory, Liberal Democrat, Socilaist, Communist and humanist are all stranded on a deserted island. They also have 5 buckets. One bucket is full to the brim of the only fresh water they have. The Socialist suggests they divide the water equally and and each get their own share, the communist agrees but suggests that as he is taller and heavier that the others his share should be slightly more, the Liberal democrat has no idea what to do, but says we he will decide when he knows what everyone else is doing.... The humanist suggests that its not divided but each person should be given what they need when their thirst requires it and what is necessary to keep them alive - he also without saying so would give up some of his share to someone else in greater need or pain. ...meanwhile the Tory has fecked off and drank the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 am watching the Iron Lady right now we simply have no one that comes close to her (or many from that era) The old witch certainly had the Tory Party Conference in stitches when she parodied the Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch. Unfortunately she hadn't the faintest idea why it was amusing. Humour was not one of her strong points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 I couldn't agree with you more about Galloway. The irony, of course, being that he calls his party Respect but if you've ever listened to his radio phone-in show he is actually the rudest and most disrespectful tvv@t you could ever imagine. But how do you come to the conclusion that anybody who considers themselves 'on the left' (whatever that actual means in this day and age) shares the same characteristics? Honestly I would like to know how you can justify such a ridiculous sweeping generalisation. I try not to get involved in the left/right arguments on here and other forums but it is my observation that people on the right tend to be the ones most often applying irrational stereotypes and your post is one of the most spectacular examples of that I have ever read. He's an utter c*nt. Anyone who might not speak 'well' he just sneers at instead of actually listening to what they're saying. One thing you 'gotta give him though- he knows how to fire up a crowd of muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 am watching the Iron Lady right now we simply have no one that comes close to her (or many from that era) Are you masturbating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Considering the title of this thread, I find it ironic that the righties are posting caustic diatribes about lefties, while everyone else is just having a laugh and displaying some humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Are you masturbating? stop it I gotta work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 and also.... why are (nearly) all lefties ugly? I mean have you seen people on those marches and rallys. Not a lot of lookers there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Lefties are boring and spectacularly unfunny/non-humourous because they tend to be pompous, superior, arrogant, condescending and above all, utter, utter HYPOCRITES. That could also apply to Osborne and Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Why are self-proclaimed 'right wingers' so tediously predictable ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 That could also apply to Osborne and Cameron. Hardly surprising, they are almost Trotskyite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Why are self-proclaimed 'right wingers' so tediously predictable ? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 am watching the Iron Lady right now we simply have no one that comes close to her (or many from that era) I do find this 'dominant/controlling woman' fetish that a lot of right-wingers have really rather odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 I do find this 'dominant/controlling woman' fetish that a lot of right-wingers have really rather odd. Not really when you think about it... all that 'discipline' at school and at home, authority figures, 'fagging' for the six formers etc... oh and dont forget matron... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 The only one of them thats funny is Bill Hicks though.................. Not sure why you find Stewart Lee and Chris Morris unfunny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 May, 2012 Share Posted 11 May, 2012 Some people don't like Chris Morris. He does push boundaries, and that means pushing buttons a lot of the time. Personally, I think we're lucky to have someone with such balls working in film and telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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