Thedelldays Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 on C4 now or C4+1.... great great film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Are you masterbating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Another great outing featuring Sean Connery playing Sean Connery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Another great outing featuring Sean Connery playing Sean Connery. Calm down, calm down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 shshto ti delaeshsh, tavarishsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Calm down, calm down! I was calm, but then I just remembered Highlander and have now got myself proper narked. The film is set in Scotland. One would think it would be the perfect opportunity to give Connery a legit excuse to speak with his Scottish accent. But no, let's make the Scotsman play a Spaniard ( badly ) and get a Frenchman to play the main Scotsman! ( badly ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 The film is set in Scotland. One would think it would be the perfect opportunity to give Connery a legit excuse to speak with his Scottish accent. But no, let's make the Scotsman play a Spaniard ( badly ) .............. According to the plot line, Ramirez was, in fact, born in Egypt !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 According to the plot line, Ramirez was, in fact, born in Egypt !!!!! Bugger, beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 HFRO is a great film apart from the accent thingy. Das Boot is my choice of best sub movie, though - any alternative suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Das Boot is my choice of best sub movie, though - any alternative suggestions? 'Jacques Cousteau Does Debbie' imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 HFRO is a great film apart from the accent thingy. Das Boot is my choice of best sub movie, though - any alternative suggestions? Crimson Tide was alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 The book "The Hunt for Red October" was much better than the film which left out a lot. The film called "The Bedford Incident" was another good film with a Soviet submarine involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 I like the one with Frasier in it! The film is pretty lame but there's this hot chick and for a prank they shrink her uniforms so u can see her boobs! Don't what what it was called though. Google "Frasier Shrinking Boobs" with safesearch "off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 (edited) The book "The Hunt for Red October" was much better than the film which left out a lot. Isn't that always the case with book adaptations though? I can't think of a single example of a film that I have found to be better than the book on which it was based. I've read a few Clancy novels over the years and often found myself thinking that they would make good films though - especially Rainbow Six and The Bear And The Dragon (although the amount of CGI the latter one would require might detract from it a little) Edit: Actually, thinking about it.... Although I never read the book, Patriot Games was another Clancy adaptation and was a stupendously good film, so it may well have been better than the book for all I know. Anybody read it? Edited 8 May, 2012 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Isn't that always the case with book adaptations though? I can't think of a single example of a film that I have found to be better than the book on which it was based. Jaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selexus Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Edit: Actually, thinking about it.... Although I never read the book, Patriot Games was another Clancy adaptation and was a stupendously good film, so it may well have been better than the book for all I know. Anybody read it? Read the vast majority of Clancy's work. Every book is good, some are outstanding (if you like the gerne). Patriot games is a very good book and a decent film. Just finished Against all Odds. Co-written with some bloke i've never heard of, and it shows. Good, but not up to his usual standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Isn't that always the case with book adaptations though? I can't think of a single example of a film that I have found to be better than the book on which it was based. I've read a few Clancy novels over the years and often found myself thinking that they would make good films though - especially Rainbow Six and The Bear And The Dragon (although the amount of CGI the latter one would require might detract from it a little) Edit: Actually, thinking about it.... Although I never read the book, Patriot Games was another Clancy adaptation and was a stupendously good film, so it may well have been better than the book for all I know. Anybody read it? Patriot Games book was way better than the film. Sum of all Fears was a movie that kept to the general feel of the book, but the TROUBLE with Hollywood is that somebody should have sewn up ALL the books and kept a common Jack Ryan. I mean Harrison Ford in Clear & Present Danger great, but Ryan wasn't getting on for 50 in the book! Now the Film series I WOULD like to see - Jack Reacher - Lee Child. But FFS do it properly, don't put Tom Cruise in the title role! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Anyone read the book 'Raise The Titanic' by Clive Cussler? That's a good story and very accurate to what it is really like to be a spy especially the little illfated submarine bits. I have a collectible edition apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Jaws I think this post needs clarifications! I see this one film recently called Jaws. It's about this shark what eats people. You may not have heard of it cos it is pretty old but don't let that put you off it is a pretty sweet movie! Anyway I looked it up and found it was based on a book so i thought sweet! That must be a pretty sweet book! So I bought it but it was really borings! There are great long bits written like you is the shark and you is just swimming around in the sea and not even eating anyones! I give it thumbs down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Sharks with typewriters! Whatever next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 Patriot Games book was way better than the film. Sum of all Fears was a movie that kept to the general feel of the book, but the TROUBLE with Hollywood is that somebody should have sewn up ALL the books and kept a common Jack Ryan. I mean Harrison Ford in Clear & Present Danger great, but Ryan wasn't getting on for 50 in the book! I get what you're saying Phil, but the only way that would have worked would be if the films had all been made in a short space of time. It never really hurt the Bond films to have different actors at different ages playing him (although Roger Moore was way over the hill and embarrassingly bad by the time he made his last one). Any film director who does a book adaptation will tell you their film is only based on the book and not intended to be a visual representation of the original story. So with the Clancy ones it's unsurprising that they are anachronistic when you look at when they were made. Red October was the released in the 80s during the Cold War and portrayed Jack Ryan as being married with a daughter. The Sum of All Fears, however, was clearly set in the 21st century yet had Ryan as a younger man who had only just met his future wife. To me that didn't spoil my enjoyment of the films, although I never read either book so perhaps it might have if I had done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 8 May, 2012 Share Posted 8 May, 2012 According to the plot line, Ramirez was, in fact, born in Egypt !!!!! Bugger, beat me to it. Chaps, I sit corrected. Not sure that diminishes my overall point though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Read quite a few early Clancy books, and enjoyed them thoroughly. But run out of patience with the multi-thread complexity in Debt Of Honour, which was a step function greater than that of Sum Of All Fears. Intend to return one day to finish the book, and want to read Executive Orders and Bear and Dragon. Imo, all of the film adaptions are good in themselves, but are poor compared to the books. Sum of All Fears was the worst, really didnt do the book justice at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 The Hunt for Red October book film misses out completely the role of the RN that is quite heavily featured in the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 (edited) Crimson Tide was alright. the film itself was ok IMO..however, it throws up a moral question.. Edited 9 May, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdearlove Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 too late Phil - One Shot comes out on 21st December - with Tom Cruise as Reacher. Bizarre choice as reacher is supposed to be 6'4" and 220lbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 The Hunt for Red October book film misses out completely the role of the RN that is quite heavily featured in the book Standard practice for yank films, isn't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 (edited) Standard practice for yank films, isn't it ? Yes it is (respect to Clancy for putting it in in the first place; in fairness he seems to have quite a lot of respect for the RN, especially the submarine division, who he quite often refers to as being as good as the USN submarine division. Suppose he hasnt met our resident Pilsbury Dough Boy from HMS Tireless yet...). But to be fair, the film would have been a lot longer and a lot more expensive to follow that part of the story arc. Most of the naval manoeuvreing is missing from the film; USS New Jersey is also not in the film, the air battle between the Tomcats and the Forger is not in the film and the A10 attack on the Kirov is also not present. They did show a Tomcat crashing, but it was in a collision with a Bear, and the film of it was some crap old USN B&W footage of a Panther crashing in the 50s or something. Also Tupelov's Alfa-class sub was killed by ramming from Red October, not a returning torpedo. An exciting film to be sure, but a sh*te adaption. Edited 9 May, 2012 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 dough boy.....alpine, I have forgotten more about SM ops than you will ever know and for the record, I don't actually work on subs at the min...I have a far more interesting job...View from the top knows what I do and it is a car cry from what you hope I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 dough boy.....alpine, I have forgotten more about SM ops than you will ever know and for the record, I don't actually work on subs at the min...I have a far more interesting job...View from the top knows what I do and it is a car cry from what you hope I do Comedy gold. Some serious guard-at-the-gate syndrome going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Comedy gold. Some serious guard-at-the-gate syndrome going on here. lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Delldays, what do you do for a job mate? Are you a secret agent? **Not taking the ****** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 lunatic No more so than your pathetic James Bond-cum-Walter Mitty routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Delldays, what do you do for a job mate? Are you a secret agent? He tests holdalls. After bringing M her cinnamon Danish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 too late Phil - One Shot comes out on 21st December - with Tom Cruise as Reacher. Bizarre choice as reacher is supposed to be 6'4" and 220lbs! I heard Lee Childs in a radio interview a wild back trying to be very diplomatic and not say that Tom Cruise was a crap choice. Clearly he didn't want to upset the film makers who no doubt pay him a small fortune for the story(ies) but his feelings were clear. For anyone who hasn't read any of the (excellent) Jack Reacher stories , the author visualises him - exactly as I did - as a Lawrence Dellaglio type appearance. I'm sure Tom Cruise can carry off playing his left leg but who is going to play the rest of him. IMO possibly the most shocking casting decision ever . Incidentally was surprised to learn Lee Childs is English, his characters and locations sure come across as written from experience by an American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 I heard Lee Childs in a radio interview a wild back trying to be very diplomatic and not say that Tom Cruise was a crap choice. Clearly he didn't want to upset the film makers who no doubt pay him a small fortune for the story(ies) but his feelings were clear. For anyone who hasn't read any of the (excellent) Jack Reacher stories , the author visualises him - exactly as I did - as a Lawrence Dellaglio type appearance. I'm sure Tom Cruise can carry off playing his left leg but who is going to play the rest of him. IMO possibly the most shocking casting decision ever . Incidentally was surprised to learn Lee Childs is English, his characters and locations sure come across as written from experience by an American Saw an interview with him recently. He said that he did that deliberately because he thought it would give his books better access to the US market and greater worldwide appeal. "Lee Childs" isn't his real name either. He chose Childs because it was early in the alphabet and easily remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Yes it is (respect to Clancy for putting it in in the first place; in fairness he seems to have quite a lot of respect for the RN, especially the submarine division, who he quite often refers to as being as good as the USN submarine division. Suppose he hasnt met our resident Pilsbury Dough Boy from HMS Tireless yet...). But to be fair, the film would have been a lot longer and a lot more expensive to follow that part of the story arc. Most of the naval manoeuvreing is missing from the film; USS New Jersey is also not in the film, the air battle between the Tomcats and the Forger is not in the film and the A10 attack on the Kirov is also not present. They did show a Tomcat crashing, but it was in a collision with a Bear, and the film of it was some crap old USN B&W footage of a Panther crashing in the 50s or something. Also Tupelov's Alfa-class sub was killed by ramming from Red October, not a returning torpedo. An exciting film to be sure, but a sh*te adaption. Cheers, that saves me reading it now! (Joke, I've read it twice at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 He tests holdalls. After bringing M her cinnamon Danish. How do you test a holdall? What do you do Alpine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Read the vast majority of Clancy's work. Every book is good, some are outstanding (if you like the gerne). Patriot games is a very good book and a decent film. Just finished Against all Odds. Co-written with some bloke i've never heard of, and it shows. Good, but not up to his usual standards. It's so gash that I've given up on Clancy, who was my fav' author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Delldays, what do you do for a job mate? Are you a secret agent? **Not taking the ****** I know what he does and TBF, he really isn't in a position to even hint at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petersfield Saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Yes it is (respect to Clancy for putting it in in the first place; in fairness he seems to have quite a lot of respect for the RN, especially the submarine division, who he quite often refers to as being as good as the USN submarine division. Suppose he hasnt met our resident Pilsbury Dough Boy from HMS Tireless yet...). But to be fair, the film would have been a lot longer and a lot more expensive to follow that part of the story arc. Most of the naval manoeuvreing is missing from the film; USS New Jersey is also not in the film, the air battle between the Tomcats and the Forger is not in the film and the A10 attack on the Kirov is also not present. They did show a Tomcat crashing, but it was in a collision with a Bear, and the film of it was some crap old USN B&W footage of a Panther crashing in the 50s or something. Also Tupelov's Alfa-class sub was killed by ramming from Red October, not a returning torpedo. An exciting film to be sure, but a sh*te adaption. This - in bold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 He tests holdalls. After bringing M her cinnamon Danish. well, I did offer to explain what my job is about.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 on C4 now or C4+1.... great great film The real Red October was actually a destroyer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 The Red October in the film was a typhoon class ballistic missile submarine the largest submarine ever built believe it or not...these beasts from the cold war still have a couple in active service.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 The Red October in the film was a typhoon class ballistic missile submarine the largest submarine ever built believe it or not...these beasts from the cold war still have a couple in active service.... Red October was a modified Typhoon. The real subs are not as big (20missiles and not 24) and dont have magnetohydrodynamic drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Red October was a modified Typhoon. The real subs are not as big (20missiles and not 24) and dont have magnetohydrodynamic drives. I know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 I know that... Really ? Wasnt sure. Photo reminds me of a school holiday on Isle of Arran about 31-32 years ago, chucking stones on the beach, watching a US Poseidon sub coming out of Holy Loch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 May, 2012 Share Posted 9 May, 2012 SBS have been doing underwater exits and returns at periscope depth for years. Their training seems more hazardous than the real thing due to the possibility of suddenly encountering fresh water areas in salt water sea lochs causing the sub/operatives to lose buoyancy and sink rapidly, causing separation and loss of breathable air, possibly leading to sinking to the bottom. Several fatalities have occurred that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 9 May, 2012 SBS have been doing underwater exits and returns at periscope depth for years. Their training seems more hazardous than the real thing due to the possibility of suddenly encountering fresh water areas in salt water sea lochs causing the sub/operatives to lose buoyancy and sink rapidly, causing separation and loss of breathable air, possibly leading to sinking to the bottom. Several fatalities have occurred that way. you are correct to a degree...not quite how it works....but close enough below is one method....fuking dangerous beyond belief for all but the easiet way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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