This Charming Man Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Interesting stuff that. Going to be horrible watching the fall out if the bubble really does ever burst..... Even if the bubble was to burst, the big teams whilst they'd initially struggle would soon rise back to the top and everything would resume as normal after a few years, only on a lesser scale. A bit like Italian football really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Even if the bubble was to burst, the big teams whilst they'd initially struggle would soon rise back to the top and everything would resume as normal after a few years, only on a lesser scale. A bit like Italian football really... I know it's a bit different, but Glasgow Rangers....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I know it's a bit different, but Glasgow Rangers....... There was never any money in the SPL anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Have you been drinking? Apple are well set because they write the zeitgeist and deliver it. We play football. We could be the next Apple apart from we cannot change the core product, Apple can because they create it... Apple changed the world by revolutionising music and mobile communication. We can't change the football product so the rules are set for us. But the rules are pretty simple. 1. Employ the best football manager you can afford. 2. Give him as much money as you can afford. Imagine. Mourinho leading out Southampton to the CL Final in 2017... In fact, favourite this post as a little motivator and so I don't have to say 'told you so'... Nokia would have thought they were we'll set 10 years ago. Anyway it seems you agree with me and most of the sans people on here who realise football isn't like a mobile phone company and the fact that Rover went bust and people use iPads now instead of desktop PCs has f*ck all to do with Saints making the champions league despite what Dubai Phil might claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I'd find it quite funny if were to get relegated next season. Obviously it wouldn't be great for the team but at least I'd be able to laugh at all the imbeciles on here. Laughing at the special needs posters is the only reason for coming on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I'd find it quite funny if were to get relegated next season. Obviously it wouldn't be great for the team but at least I'd be able to laugh at all the imbeciles on here. Some folk are in for one fu.cking huge reality check next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I wonder if Reading fans are thinking of Champions League football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Some folk are in for one fu.cking huge reality check next season. Which ones though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I wonder if Reading fans are thinking of Champions League football? I bet they are dulldroms, what with their new wealthy owners. When it comes to the spaz factor they even out do us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 We could be the next Apple apart from we cannot change the core product, Apple can because they create it... Please don't quote the imbecile. I suspect that he doesn't make sense whether he's sober or p*ssed. Apple can change the core product, but would that give the rivals the pip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I wonder if Reading fans are thinking of Champions League football? The difference between us is that we expect to live within our means, spending wisely with a rising income because of our promotion. Reading will spend as much as they can launder within the new regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Ok. Let's just stop being a bunch of w a nkers eh chaps?? 1. Not a single poster has talkd about challenging for 4th next year. This thread is about a FIVE year plan. 2. Most people, like me, who have said it is possible. Have said it is only possible with changes either to the way football is funded or to our funding. All the other guff about size and fans is a sideshow. Two days before Man Citeh were taken over by Mansour, their fans would be laughing about them winning the league inside three years... Our priority next year is to win as many games of football as possible. But if you think Nicola is telling Nigel his ambition is 17th, you're deluded, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 (edited) I wonder if Reading fans are thinking of Champions League football? I bet they are dulldroms, what with their new wealthy owners. When it comes to the spaz factor they even out do us. 1) They don't have "new wealthy owners", they haven't had a takeover (yet). Plus if they do, he isn't as rich as the Liebherr estate (not even remotely close). 2) As recently as the year 2000, Reading averaged 8,985. Between 1963 and 1998 they didn't average more than 10,000 and they averaged under 4,000 as recently as 1992. 3) They are now looking to expand to 38,000. 4) Under 4,000 to 38,000 is quite a jump in 20 years isn't it? But they believe it is possible. 5) So why is it not possible for Saints, who have far more solid long term fanbase evidence than Reading do? Edited 10 May, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 ah right...if we are going on how rich the supposed owners are... I will assume we will be out spending man u this summer...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 3) They are now looking to expand to 38,000. 4) Under 4,000 to 38,000 is quite a jump in 20 years isn't it? But they believe it is possible. Lots of lovely loot laundered via the stadium expansion costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 ah right...if we are going on how rich the supposed owners are... I will assume we will be out spending man u this summer...? No, you're being too simplistic. Look, think about how this club was bought and what your Chairman has told you. Nicola encouraged Markus to buy the club and together they were going to fulfil a dream (one I believe was Nicola's dream all along). So if he has an ambition to be a CL contender - which he has talked about openly (however fleetingly) - then he most likely has a plan of how this could be achieved, no? This is most likely to be that he sells the club (with him in situ) or encourages new investment from, say, China, or from the Liebherr family - the latter might have been likely if Markus was alive, but now, less so is my guess... You get it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 You get it now? yeah, so all speculation and on the current path. CL football is as far away as it was in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 1) They don't have "new wealthy owners", they haven't had a takeover (yet). Plus if they do, he isn't as rich as the Liebherr estate (not even remotely close). 2) As recently as the year 2000, Reading averaged 8,985. Between 1963 and 1998 they didn't average more than 10,000 and they averaged under 4,000 as recently as 1992. 3) They are now looking to expand to 38,000. 4) Under 4,000 to 38,000 is quite a jump in 20 years isn't it? But they believe it is possible. 5) So why is it not possible for Saints, who have far more solid long term fanbase evidence than Reading do? you are right...neither of us will be playing CL football in 5 years.....not a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 yeah, so all speculation and on the current path. CL football is as far away as it was in league 1. Really? I didn't think that it was possible to gain admission to the CL from the third division, so being in the Premiership makes it 2 divisions closer to being at least a possibility, even if improbable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Really? I didn't think that it was possible to gain admission to the CL from the third division, so being in the Premiership makes it 2 divisions closer to being at least a possibility, even if improbable. I cannot believe people seriously think that by 2017, we will have qualified for the champions league.... actually....I am starting to think some of you are serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I cannot believe people seriously think that by 2017, we will have qualified for the champions league.... actually....I am starting to think some of you are serious Listen to your Chairman! I am only reading what he is saying and judging on the guy's attitude to life. He is mercenary, driven, ambitious, intelligent - in short a WINNER. I know this is hard for Saints fans to omprehend. Tell me, what do you think his ambition is for this club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Listen to your Chairman! I am only reading what he is saying and judging on the guy's attitude to life. He is mercenary, driven, ambitious, intelligent - in short a WINNER. I know this is hard for Saints fans to omprehend. Tell me, what do you think his ambition is for this club? I have listened to our chairman....many say it...many have said it...many will say it. doing so, is hard and will cost us hundreds of millions....ffs, Man city have taken utd to the last day of the season...cost them close to £1bn for the pleasure. arsenal are around 3-4th best team...spend an absolute fortune...which I simply cannot see us spending any time soon what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I have listened to our chairman....many say it...many have said it...many will say it. doing so, is hard and will cost us hundreds of millions....ffs, Man city have taken utd to the last day of the season...cost them close to £1bn for the pleasure. arsenal are around 3-4th best team...spend an absolute fortune...which I simply cannot see us spending any time soon what so ever The difference DD is that many are dreamers and few have demonstrated such swift and decisive actions. Firing the first manager to win silverware in 35 years? Cancelling payment schemes, introducing £3 tax on tickets, bankrolling the most expensive squad in League One... He may fail but he doesn't like doing that. And he's no mug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 The difference DD is that many are dreamers and few have demonstrated such swift and decisive actions. Firing the first manager to win silverware in 35 years? Cancelling payment schemes, introducing £3 tax on tickets, bankrolling the most expensive squad in League One... He may fail but he doesn't like doing that. And he's no mug. I believe Hull and blackpool have done very similar things to us in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Listen to your Chairman! I am only reading what he is saying and judging on the guy's attitude to life. He is mercenary, driven, ambitious, intelligent - in short a WINNER. I know this is hard for Saints fans to omprehend. Tell me, what do you think his ambition is for this club? Just so that we can clarify here. I can (kind of) remember Cortese alluding to challenging at the top of the table. But what did he ACTUALLY say about it. What are there quotes actually attributed to him about becoming a Champions League side? Not "it was along these lines", what did he actually say, and to whom? I'm not denying he said it, its just we've had nearly 17 pages attributed to some quotes which may say one thing and may say another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I have listened to our chairman....many say it...many have said it...many will say it. doing so, is hard and will cost us hundreds of millions....ffs, Man city have taken utd to the last day of the season...cost them close to £1bn for the pleasure. arsenal are around 3-4th best team...spend an absolute fortune...which I simply cannot see us spending any time soon what so ever Newcastle have shown that 2 years after being in the Championship you can mount a serious Champions League bid going into the 38th game of the season. Yes, Newcastle are a bigger club than Saints but their net spend in recent years on transfer fees really isn't that large at all. Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each when you consider Rory Delap cost £4m in 2001. That really isn't a lot for Saints. The main issue would then be down to wages, but you can still put together a highly competitive team in the Premier League at no where near the wage levels you seem to think it takes. It hasn't cost Newcastle "hundreds of millions" so that is ********. Careful management at board level and 1st team level along with a reasonable amount of funding and good scouting goes a very long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 I believe Hull and blackpool have done very similar things to us in recent years and obviously, norwich....are they set of CL football.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Newcastle have shown that 2 years after being in the Championship you can mount a serious Champions League bid going into the 38th game of the season. Yes, Newcastle are a bigger club than Saints but their net spend in recent years on transfer fees really isn't that large at all. Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each. That really isn't a lot for Saints. The main issue would then be down to wages, but you can still put together a highly competitive team in the Premier League at no where near the wage levels you seem to think it takes. £9m isn't a lot for saints....remind me again of our record transfer....I bet newcastle pay more in wages per season than we are likely to do in the near future. lets not pretend newcastle were a "championship outfit"...they had 2 argitinian internationals ffs.... as for net spend....that is slightly masked by the sale of carroll if we sign and PAY players like cabeye and Cisse..I may start to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 £9m isn't a lot for saints....remind me again of our record transfer. Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each and when you consider Rory Delap cost £4m in 2001 with Rupert Lowe and his lack of investment, that really isn't a lot for Saints. Saints as a Championship side under Cortese without Premier League TV money made bids larger than that for Rodriguez and Hooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Newcastle have shown that 2 years after being in the Championship you can mount a serious Champions League bid going into the 38th game of the season. Yes, Newcastle are a bigger club than Saints but their net spend in recent years on transfer fees really isn't that large at all. Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each when you consider Rory Delap cost £4m in 2001. That really isn't a lot for Saints. The main issue would then be down to wages, but you can still put together a highly competitive team in the Premier League at no where near the wage levels you seem to think it takes. It hasn't cost Newcastle "hundreds of millions" so that is ********. Careful management at board level and 1st team level along with a reasonable amount of funding and good scouting goes a very long way. So if you dont need to go mad on transfer fees and wages why were you so adamant Corteses rescources are so important to our champions league push? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 (edited) Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each and when you consider Rory Delap cost £4m in 2001. That really isn't a lot for Saints. no, they never came as a pair.....one was free....one was £9m. I bet they blow lamberts wage out of the water too...at least double I would say oh, delap (and any free transfer at the time) would have made him look like a bargain Edited 10 May, 2012 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Please don't quote the imbecile. I suspect that he doesn't make sense whether he's sober or p*ssed. Apple can change the core product, but would that give the rivals the pip? Yes, can everyone do what Les Bender says please, he sets the rules around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 no, they never came as a pair.....one was free....one was £9m. So what? It works out at £4.5m each. Which is a little more than two Rory Delap's in 2001 under Rupert Lowe and his lack of investment. I bet they blow lamberts wage out of the water too...at least double I would say Are you aware Southampton are paying Lambert at the moment as a Championship club? Saints will get upwards of £40 million extra next season from TV money alone, let alone all the other increased revenue streams. Also, unlike most other Premier League clubs, Saints have no debt. So don't need to use any of their income to pay that off next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Ba and Cisse cost them £9 million in total or £4.5m each and when you consider Rory Delap cost £4m in 2001 with Rupert Lowe and his lack of investment, that really isn't a lot for Saints. Saints as a Championship side under Cortese without Premier League TV money made bids larger than that for Rodriguez and Hooper. Demba Ba turned down £50K a week plus a £500K bonus from West Ham in order to join Newcastle. But that probably isn't really a lot for Saints either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 So what? It works out at £4.5m each. Which is a little more than two Rory Delap's in 2001 under Rupert Lowe and his lack of investment. Are you aware Southampton are paying Lambert at the moment as a Championship club? Saints will get £40 million + extra next season from TV money alone, let alone all the other increased revenue streams. take delap and any free transfer at the time and that makes his value £2m or so.....if we are working it like that are you seriously going to suggest that we are going to pay wages to our top players close to what newcastle will pay theirs...? seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Newcastle are a bit of a poor example to use to be honest. They were relegated with some excellent players in their team, and I was surprised they managed to keep hold of Collocini, Gutierez, Enrique etc.... They came back up with a better manager who was able to get the true potential out of those players, and they've built on that. We don't have those level of players as a start-base, so what Newcastle did isn't going to occur to us anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Demba Ba turned down £50K a week plus a £500K bonus from West Ham in order to join Newcastle. But that probably isn't really a lot for Saints either. Probably not next season, but I bet we see Saints player on £50k p/w in the next 3 to 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Probably not next season, but I bet we see Saints player on £50k p/w in the next 3 to 4 years. maybe the odd one or three....no where near enough to push of for CL football...no where near Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Probably not next season, but I bet we see Saints player on £50k p/w in the next 3 to 4 years. I don't think you understand. He turned down £50K p/w plus a bonus payment of £500K from West Ham. I'm going to go out on a limb here and presume he's on a bit more than that at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Just so that we can clarify here. I can (kind of) remember Cortese alluding to challenging at the top of the table. But what did he ACTUALLY say about it. What are there quotes actually attributed to him about becoming a Champions League side? Not "it was along these lines", what did he actually say, and to whom? I'm not denying he said it, its just we've had nearly 17 pages attributed to some quotes which may say one thing and may say another. "Would I pay a player £100,000 or even £200,000 a week? "Not if we were in the Premier League with a 32,000 capacity stadium. "But if we were in the Champions League and had re-developed the ground to 50,000 then I might consider it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Probably not next season, but I bet we see Saints player on £50k p/w in the next 3 to 4 years. Why? With careful management and good scouting like you said above surely we could pick up players who wouldn't demand this sort of salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 take delap and any free transfer at the time and that makes his value £2m or so.....if we are working it like that Delap was 11 years ago and cost £4m. Football prices have increased since then, however a strikefore of Ba and Cisse still worked out at little more than 2 Rory Delap's. How much did Rupert Lowe invest in Saints? Was it anything? I'm not saw he did put anything in of note, certainly note anywhere near what Cortese/Liebherr have done. So if Lowe as Saints chairman was able to sign Delap £4m, Delgado £3.2m etc then why not under Cortese/Liebherr in an age of larger TV deals sign the likes of Ba free and Cisse £9m? It will come down to wages, and the increased TV money from 2001 to 2012 will pay for a lot of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 (edited) "Would I pay a player £100,000 or even £200,000 a week? "Not if we were in the Premier League with a 32,000 capacity stadium. "But if we were in the Champions League and had re-developed the ground to 50,000 then I might consider it." Ta. Remember it now. Its a bit of a "what if" statement rather than a statement of intent, to be fair. I'm sure many will disagree and use it as evidence of the CL 5 year plan though. Not exactly definitive though, is it? If you were in the Champions League, would you pay the necessary wages to the players to keep you there? I might consider it. So not a "hell yes, if that's what it takes, that's what we'll spend". Not a "we owuld have to, if we have those sorts of ambitions". Just an "I might think about it". Edited 10 May, 2012 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Why? With careful management and good scouting like you said above surely we could pick up players who wouldn't demand this sort of salary. Signing them initially won't require them on large contracts if you do some good scouting and bring in some bargains. But to keep them long term contracts will need to be increased. Plus see the quote below... "Would I pay a player £100,000 or even £200,000 a week? "Not if we were in the Premier League with a 32,000 capacity stadium. "But if we were in the Champions League and had re-developed the ground to 50,000 then I might consider it." Cheers, I was just about to use that quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Ta. Remember it now. Its a bit of a "what if" statement rather than a statement of intent, to be fair. I'm sure many will disagree and use it as evidence of the CL 5 year plan though. You are still stuck in a Saints at The Dell and/or run by Guy Askham/Rupert Lowe complex. Things are different, Cortese has huge ambition and is backing up the ambition with evidence such as announcing a £15 million Champions League club quality training ground whilst in League One, and then starting construction of it whilst in the Championship. If Cortese merely wanted Saints like under Lowe to be a mid table Premier League team, he wouldn't bother with such a development and would reduce the scale and cost of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 You are still stuck in a Saints at The Dell and/or run by Guy Askham/Rupert Lowe complex. Things are different, Cortese has huge ambition and is backing up the ambition with evidence such as announcing a £15 million Champions League club quality training ground whilst in League One, and then starting construction of it whilst in the Championship. If Cortese merely wanted Saints like under Lowe to be a mid table Premier League team, he wouldn't bother with such a development and would reduce the scale and cost of it. stop being a **** one thing spending £15m on updating the training ground another thing, throwing in £250m for the playing side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 You are still stuck in a Saints at The Dell and/or run by Guy Askham/Rupert Lowe complex. Things are different, Cortese has huge ambition and is backing up the ambition with evidence such as announcing a £15 million Champions League club quality training ground whilst in League One, and then starting construction of it whilst in the Championship. If Cortese merely wanted Saints like under Lowe to be a mid table Premier League team, he wouldn't bother with such a development and would reduce the scale and cost of it. And you're stuck in seeing what you want to see. I'm all for ambition and growing as big as we can, which IMO will (perhaps within 5 years) include increasing the size of stadium to around 40K. Which should see us comfortably mid-table Premier League level and upwards. I just have a limit on how far on from there I see us going, and while I hope that the sky is the limit logic dictates to me otherwise. So, well done for taking a completely incorrect assumption about me and trying to use it to suit your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 Ta. Remember it now. Its a bit of a "what if" statement rather than a statement of intent, to be fair. I'm sure many will disagree and use it as evidence of the CL 5 year plan though. Not exactly definitive though, is it? If you were in the Champions League, would you pay the necessary wages to the players to keep you there? I might consider it. So not a "hell yes, if that's what it takes, that's what we'll spend". Not a "we owuld have to, if we have those sorts of ambitions". Just an "I might think about it". No but when you couple it with other things that come out of the club, like "Aiming to match Barcelona is a big ambition but you need to strive for that to be successful,’ says Reed Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2060821/After-Walcott-Bale-Oxlade-Chamberlain-Southampton-aiming-create-new-golden-generation-England.html#ixzz1uU5V4Awo Then you know that things are not just set up to trundle along in mid-table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 (edited) stop being a **** one thing spending £15m on updating the training ground another thing, throwing in £250m for the playing side 1) Did Newcastle 2012 or Everton's 2005 sides cost £250m in net spend? No, not remotely close, good management and recruitment went a very long way. Yes some money was required but nothing like the sums you seem to think it takes. 2) Will any club under FFP be able to spend £250m on players? No, investment from owners is being vastly reduced. 3) Does it not make more sense to spend money on the academy and training ground and produce your own players bearing in mind FFP and EPPP? Edited 10 May, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Share Posted 10 May, 2012 1) Did Newcastle 2012 or Everton's 2005 sides cost £250m in net spend? No, not remotely close, good management and recruitment went a very long way. Yes some money was required but nothing like the sums you seem to think it takes. 2) Will any club under FFP be able to spend £250m on players? No investment from owners is being vastly reduced. 3) Does it not make more sense to spend money on the academy and training ground and produce your own players bearing in mind FFP and EPPP? stop it..please we are a long way off from newcastle of 2012....unless of course, we will finish top 6 next season straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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