Turkish Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Reckon with current capacity they would only ever allow approx 27k max season tickets to be sold. Don't actually think we will sell that many but maybe 22-25k. Bit of a tough one to guess in the current economic climate. If they price it right and offer a decent installments plan I think we'll exceed our highest number than we ever had under Lowe. There is such a good feel and momentum about the club at the moment. The only ones that moan about it are the ones that go on Internet forums!!
BlakeySFC Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 If they price it right and offer a decent installments plan I think we'll exceed our highest number than we ever had under Lowe. There is such a good feel and momentum about the club at the moment. The only ones that moan about it are the ones that go on Internet forums!! Agreed
terrasaint Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Think renewals behind the goal or wings will be £550-£600 and new buy £650-£700. wasn't the new purchase for Chapel end £460 2011/12. Your estimate would be a minimum of 31% increase for 4 games less so I sincerely hope you are wrong!!!!
mcjwills Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Lets look at this logically an expensive season ticket this year was £515 over 23 games cost £22.40 per match. With only 19 games next year at an increase of say an exhorbitant 33% per match, tickets would cost £30.00 over 19 games that is £570.00 an overall increase of just over 10%.
djharvey Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Lets look at this logically an expensive season ticket this year was £515 over 23 games cost £22.40 per match. With only 19 games next year at an increase of say an exhorbitant 33% per match, tickets would cost £30.00 over 19 games that is £570.00 an overall increase of just over 10%. I thought you said look at this logically!
saintrich Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 As long as there is direct debit I don't care how much it is tbh.
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 As long as there is direct debit I don't care how much it is tbh. Make it 5 grand then.
rshephard3 Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 £700 is £36.84 a game. This is a lot. I'd expect wing seats to be in the region £575, meaning as near as dammit £30 a game. Maybe wishful thinking but it seems a lot to charge over £600 for wing seats IMO.
Hedgehog Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Anything over £35 for an individual ticket, most expensive part in the ground, £30 per season ticket holder, £600 approx. Then they can do one! I don't want to be paying over inflated prices for players wages knowing full well that the top teams will not bring their best players to Saint Marrys,(not that i give a S*** as I go to watch Saints) as they will have bigger games to protect them for, and also knowing that we will have our games F'd around by Sky.
SuperMikey Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 It would be good if points could apply to the pricing of STs, i've missed about 10-15 home games in the last 3 years and never had a ST (could never afford one). £1 off for each home game attended would be nice Nicola Still, I shall be getting one near the back of Block 38 for next season.
cryoman1965 Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Anything over £35 for an individual ticket, most expensive part in the ground, £30 per season ticket holder, £600 approx. Then they can do one! I don't want to be paying over inflated prices for players wages knowing full well that the top teams will not bring their best players to Saint Marrys,(not that i give a S*** as I go to watch Saints) as they will have bigger games to protect them for, and also knowing that we will have our games F'd around by Sky. Would agree with this @ 30 per game average. Would be really ****ed if any more. although I will hope to be going to St Mary's :-)
IFHP Posted 4 May, 2012 Posted 4 May, 2012 Ive had a ST since the time we were first in the Prem and ive continued to have one throughout the bad times and all of the long way back to the Premiership. So when was the 1st time we were in the prem? how many seasons were "bad times"?
BlakeySFC Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 (edited) I'd say expect £40 most expensive part of ground £36 cheapest, £33 Students etc. incl. the cortese tax for individual tickets. As for season tickets i'd say £700 for the most expensive ST was reasonable at £36 a game. Expect the cheapest ST on sale to be £590 for new STH's personally. Edited 5 May, 2012 by BlakeySFC
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I'm happy to renew at £600 for my seat (block 4).
whelk Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 everyone seems to deny being a season ticket waver. who is doing it and why don't others kick their heads in?
Jack Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Last year the prices for my seat in the Northam were £465 (renewal) and about £540 for a new ST. I'm guessing, and would be happy to pay about £540 this season. And new STs up to about £700. They need a good installment plan, I think that was one of Cortese's biggest mistakes last summer. It wasn't that long ago I had my ST in the Northam for £60 a month for 6 months with the last payment in December. Ideal. It's not like the club are desperate for the money up front.
Jack Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 everyone seems to deny being a season ticket waver. who is doing it and why don't others kick their heads in? I don't think season ticket wavers are computer literate. There may only be a small handful on here.
Turkish Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Anything over £35 for an individual ticket, most expensive part in the ground, £30 per season ticket holder, £600 approx. Then they can do one! I don't want to be paying over inflated prices for players wages knowing full well that the top teams will not bring their best players to Saint Marrys,(not that i give a S*** as I go to watch Saints) as they will have bigger games to protect them for, and also knowing that we will have our games F'd around by Sky. What does it matter what players the other teams bring?
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 What does it matter what players the other teams bring? Fair few glory hunters showing themselves up on this thread I'm afraid. Strange point regarding big teams not bringing their best players, that's never really the case anyway.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 So when was the 1st time we were in the prem? how many seasons were "bad times"? I should have said the last time we were in the Premiership. As for bad seasons,i would say 2005/06/07/08/09 were the worst.But saying that,the last two seasons have been the best i have ever seen.
IFHP Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I should have said the last time we were in the Premiership. As for bad seasons,i would say 2005/06/07/08/09 were the worst.But saying that,the last two seasons have been the best i have ever seen. Did we not get to the play-offs in 2007?
Dimond Geezer Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I'll decide on whether to renew once the pricing comes out as my nippers has been free for the last 3 years and under the U11 rule would be this year as well. If mine goes up by silly money and his is no longer cheap then they may have to go. That said, a decent DD scheme and I'm in. Same for me, myself & my oldest son were £550 last year, number 2 son was U11 so free, this season I'll have to pay for him. I think last season over 11's were £150, so that £700 straight away without the prem weighting that undoubtedly will be added. More that about £900 & I'm out.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Did we not get to the play-offs in 2007? Yes we did,but we still didnt win them.
SNOWY Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I'm expecting to pay around £700 (Itchen Center) It will be interesting to see if the whole of the Chapel is retained as the Family Stand. I suspect the Family area will revert back to the Chapel/Kingsland corner (approx 2000 seats I think) Will they change the rules on concessions? They could make the center seats full price only for example. They could make the Northam adult only. I sure they will be looking at ways of maximising income whilst still offering discounts in limited areas.
Hedgehog Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Fair few glory hunters showing themselves up on this thread I'm afraid. Strange point regarding big teams not bringing their best players, that's never really the case anyway. If you read my thread i said i don't care what players the big teams bring, i am only interested in watching Saints. As for the teams they bring Man Utd: Lindegaard, O'Shea, Evans, Smalling, Fábio Da Silva, Gibson, Anderson, Scholes, Obertan, Hernández, Owen. Subs: Kuszczak, Brown, Berbatov, Rooney, Giggs, Nani, Bébé. was the Man utd team in the FA cup last year, which we had to pay a lot more than normal to watch. Not being a Manure fan does that look to be a starting team full of stars, could be for all i know, but i didn't care, i still paid the ticket price as i wanted to see Saints
buctootim Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Anyone know what percentage of total income ticket money makes up for the average prem club? Its obviously a lot less than in the championship, maybe 35% next season compared to maybe 80% this?
oldsarum Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 THink a lot of people on here are living in a dream world Here's a list typical prices for away games in premier league this season Arsenal £35 - £51 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £35) Aston Villa £37 - £45 dependant on Category Blackburn £29 - £35 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £29) Bolton £20 - £27 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £20) Chelsea £47 - £56 lower, £50-£59 upper, dependant on category. Everton £31, £34 or £36 dependant on area of stand Fulham £30 - £40 dependant on Category Liverpool £42 - £48 dependant on Category Man City £38 lower, £48 upper Man Utd. £43 Newcastle £26 - £36 dependant on Category Norwich £30 - £45 dependant on Category QPR £40 - £55 dependant on Category Stoke City £25 - £35 dependant on Category Swansea £35 Sunderland £29 - £35 dependant on Category Tottenham £31 - £47 lower, £36 - £53 upper, dependant on category West Brom £25 - £42 dependant on Category (saints would have been £29) Wigan £20 - £28 dependant on Category (saints would have been £20) Wolves £24- £34 behind goal, £28 - £38 side, dependant on category IMO I would think Norwich prices are similar to what Saints will charge, with season tickets around £650 - £700
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 THink a lot of people on here are living in a dream world Here's a list typical prices for away games in premier league this season Arsenal £35 - £51 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £35) Aston Villa £37 - £45 dependant on Category Blackburn £29 - £35 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £29) Bolton £20 - £27 dependant on Category (Saints would have been £20) Chelsea £47 - £56 lower, £50-£59 upper, dependant on category. Everton £31, £34 or £36 dependant on area of stand Fulham £30 - £40 dependant on Category Liverpool £42 - £48 dependant on Category Man City £38 lower, £48 upper Man Utd. £43 Newcastle £26 - £36 dependant on Category Norwich £30 - £45 dependant on Category QPR £40 - £55 dependant on Category Stoke City £25 - £35 dependant on Category Swansea £35 Sunderland £29 - £35 dependant on Category Tottenham £31 - £47 lower, £36 - £53 upper, dependant on category West Brom £25 - £42 dependant on Category (saints would have been £29) Wigan £20 - £28 dependant on Category (saints would have been £20) Wolves £24- £34 behind goal, £28 - £38 side, dependant on category IMO I would think Norwich prices are similar to what Saints will charge, with season tickets around £650 - £700 Can't work out from your post why you think people are living in a dreamworld? You think they're forecast prices too high or too low?
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 If you read my thread i said i don't care what players the big teams bring, i am only interested in watching Saints. As for the teams they bring Man Utd: Lindegaard, O'Shea, Evans, Smalling, Fábio Da Silva, Gibson, Anderson, Scholes, Obertan, Hernández, Owen. Subs: Kuszczak, Brown, Berbatov, Rooney, Giggs, Nani, Bébé. was the Man utd team in the FA cup last year, which we had to pay a lot more than normal to watch. Not being a Manure fan does that look to be a starting team full of stars, could be for all i know, but i didn't care, i still paid the ticket price as i wanted to see Saints Well if it makes no difference to you, why mention it? That team was for a cup game, try and find a few examples of them playing that sort of team in the league.......
stevegrant Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 We had a 30% increase when moving up from League One to the Championship, so I suspect we'll see a similar rise when taking the next step up. In terms of matchday prices, they're surely going to have to go back to a multi-tiered system - they can probably get away with charging £40-45 for the likes of Man United, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc, but no chance of selling any tickets against Wigan, Stoke and Norwich.
BlakeySFC Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Fair few glory hunters showing themselves up on this thread I'm afraid. Strange point regarding big teams not bringing their best players, that's never really the case anyway. So anyone that hasn't had a ST for the last 7 years is a glory hunter? Ridiculous.
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Last year the prices for my seat in the Northam were £465 (renewal) and about £540 for a new ST. I'm guessing, and would be happy to pay about £540 this season. And new STs up to about £700. They need a good installment plan, I think that was one of Cortese's biggest mistakes last summer. It wasn't that long ago I had my ST in the Northam for £60 a month for 6 months with the last payment in December. Ideal. It's not like the club are desperate for the money up front. Cortese got all the money in the bank up front for Season Tickets, and then sold the ground out at full price for half the season. I would say that is first class business management rather than a 'mistake'...
The Godfather Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I know existing ST holders will get a discount compared to new ST holders but it would be good if we were rewarded with some realistic prices and not too much of a price hike...but I doubt it though. I know their will be plenty of people willing to buy a ST as were back in the prem, I expect the club sell a record amount of ST's next season.
Saint_Jonny Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Can't afford a season ticket but I'll go to all the games I can (which will end up being most of them!). Its going to be a nightmare getting tickets next season, isn't it. I've only been a fanatic outside of the PL so I dunno what to expect, bet I end up in the itchen / chapel corner every ****ing week. Whoopie doopy do. Can't wait.
stevegrant Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Can't afford a season ticket but I'll go to all the games I can (which will end up being most of them!). Its going to be a nightmare getting tickets next season, isn't it. I've only been a fanatic outside of the PL so I dunno what to expect, bet I end up in the itchen / chapel corner every ****ing week. Whoopie doopy do. Can't wait. It'll probably be fine for most games, to be honest. The biggest games will be twinned with **** ones, so if you want a Man United ticket you'll probably have to buy one for the likes of Bolton, Norwich, Stoke, etc at the same time, and we saw how long it took twinned tickets for the Pompey and Coventry games to sell out.
Matthew Le God Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 We saw how long it took twinned tickets for the Coventry game to sell out. The Coventry game sold out over a week before the match. Even in the 2004/05 season when Saints were awful, came 20th and were relegated, St Mary's had an average of over 30,000. It was difficult that season to get tickets and the team were hardly an attractive proposition to watch.
Turkish Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 The Coventry game sold out over a week before the match. Even in the 2004/05 season when Saints were awful, came 20th and were relegated, St Mary's had an average of over 30,000. It was difficult that season to get tickets and the team were hardly an attractive proposition to watch. Not that impressive really at it was our biggest game for 7 years.
stevegrant Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Not that impressive really at it was our biggest game for 7 years. And tickets were first available to non-season ticket holders at least two months in advance.
stevegrant Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 The Coventry game sold out over a week before the match. A whole week??
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 I had a S/T for years and if all the games were 3pm Sat, would have continued to do so. Sunday and Sat lunchtime games are a bit of a struggle, work wise. I have never missed a big game and have always managed to get a ticket. However, the last 2 years it has been close a couple of times.The "database" free for all, is making it tougher and therefore I'm hoping that some sort of membership will be reinstated so that big games/away games tickets can be based on sales history. Without that I'm seriously thinking about getting a S/T and taking a hit on the games I miss, or passing the S/T for someone else for the games I'll miss. I really do think that the feelgood factor will push S/T sales right up, and tickets will be harder and harder to get.
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Wouldn't mind betting that there will be no free STs for kids this time round though.Very reduced price maybe but not free and available on demand.Last time it was the young old folk who took a hammering,expect it to be the young this time.
Matthew Le God Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 A whole week?? Read the sentence again Steve. Plus the second paragraph.
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Wouldn't mind betting that there will be no free STs for kids in the Family Section this time round though.Very reduced price maybe but not free and available on demand.Last time it was the young old folk who took a hammering,expect it to be the young this time.
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 So anyone that hasn't had a ST for the last 7 years is a glory hunter? Ridiculous. Not what I said was it?
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 The Coventry game sold out over a week before the match. Even in the 2004/05 season when Saints were awful, came 20th and were relegated, St Mary's had an average of over 30,000. It was difficult that season to get tickets and the team were hardly an attractive proposition to watch. How long had those Cov tickets been on sale one way or another? Yes we sold out a lot in the Prem, but I never met anyone that struggled for a ticket when they really wanted one.
Matthew Le God Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 (edited) Yes we sold out a lot in the Prem, but I never met anyone that struggled for a ticket when they really wanted one. Absolute nonsense! Are you suggesting Saints only have 29,000 fans that would want to see each of the 19 Premier League home games? 29,000 to watch a Saints team of Premier League players in the most high profile league in the world? As I said, even in the year we came 20th and relegated a large number of games sold out and the average was over 30,000. Edited 5 May, 2012 by Matthew Le God
Hedgehog Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Well if it makes no difference to you, why mention it? That team was for a cup game, try and find a few examples of them playing that sort of team in the league....... You are missing my point. It has been suggested that i was one of the 'plenty of glory hunters on this site'. I have been a season ticket holder for more than 20 years, missing about 2 games, and still pay the higher price for tickets when the big clubs come to town. For that game we were not guaranteed the full first team squad of that team, and are not for future league games in the premiership. If you are expected to pay to watch an A list game you don't want to be seeing C list stars. So my point and with my original post in this thread, is that the price should be at a realistic level roughly £600 for most expensive area.
Sour Mash Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 Absolute nonsense! Are you suggesting Saints only have 29,000 fans that would want to see each of the 19 Premier League home games? 29,000 to watch a Saints team of Premier League players in the most high profile league in the world? As I said, even in the year we came 20th and relegated a large number of games sold out and the average was over 30,000. How is saying what I experienced count as nonsense? I'm sure there'll be a fair few games where overall demand is well over 29k. But as I say, I never met anyone switched on and organised that had any problems getting tickets. People that leave it to a few days before big games will obviously find it harder.
Legod Third Coming Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 How long had those Cov tickets been on sale one way or another? Yes we sold out a lot in the Prem, but I never met anyone that struggled for a ticket when they really wanted one. I had a Membership and I can't ever remember it being an issue - even ended with three tickets for the Cup Final. An awful lot of people who complained back then wanted to go to one game a season (United) and found it tough - I'll be honest, I don't have huge sympathy for that...
Turkish Posted 5 May, 2012 Posted 5 May, 2012 (edited) Absolute nonsense! Are you suggesting Saints only have 29,000 fans that would want to see each of the 19 Premier League home games? 29,000 to watch a Saints team of Premier League players in the most high profile league in the world? As I said, even in the year we came 20th and relegated a large number of games sold out and the average was over 30,000. I've never met anyone that struggled to get a ticket in the premier legue either. Mrs Turkish worked at the club in this pwriod some of it in the office during this period and she says no time were we turning away these thousands of fans you seem to believe there were. We've got lots of fans that will only go to a few games a season, let's not forget how many birthday parties, holidays, surprise bills, traffic problems and work commitments people experienced for less glamorous games this season, they aren't going to disappear just because we're in the premier league. Edited 5 May, 2012 by Turkish
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