dubai_phil Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Saints FC Fans @SaintsFCFans Spurs have been keeping there eye on danny fox through the season and may come in with a bid of assou ekotto leaves #saintsfc Discuss.
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Discuss. Wow, he's not quite at their standard though I wouldn't have thought.
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Discuss. Utter bulls**t. I wouldn't believe anything from twitter anyway.
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I think he's better than a lot give him credit for. The game isn't exactly overflowing with decent left backs. How many had heard of Assou-Ekkotto before he made it with Spurs? Spurs won't have any problem finding a better left-back than Fox.
Asaint4ever Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I think he's class! He's soooo calm on the ball and has a hell of a left peg! And his defenses side has improved
syd_barrett_saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox has a great dead ball on him, but apart from that I'm not a huge fan. His performance away at Doncaster was one of the worst I've seen in a good while from a Saints player (although no one covered themselves in glory that day). I think he is defensively suspect, doesn't support Lallana that well (in the way that Richardson does with whoever plays on the right of midfield) and is prone to playing "Hollywood balls" that often don't work out. If we can find a decent replacement I wouldn't mind him going, but I have no idea who that would be!
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Harsh. We'll see won't we. Fox won't leave though, and we'll have a good top flight left back. How exactly is that harsh?
The9 Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Discuss. I'd be quite pleased if we sold him, we could find a much better replacement for the sort of money we'd want, and it's not like he defends much.
Dr Who? Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 If they have been watching him all season, they would have seen that he is a very good championship player, but a lot to prove for Premier League standard. I hope he does make the cut, but with us!
skintsaint Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Always thought he would make a better left midfielder than a full back as defensively he is a bit suspect.
scotty Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I'd be gutted if he left, think he is real quality. I dont see it happening though, this is probably just one of those speculative agent-driven rumours (like the ones we will all be wetting ourselves over for the next month or so.)
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Really? I'd be shocked if spurs couldn't do better in fact I'd bite spurs hand off if they wanted to pay money for Fox while his deadballs are pretty good he struggles to defend against even half decent championship wingers IMO.
stu0x Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Would sell him for a reasonable amount (3mill). The number of times he loses the right midfielder is staggering.
The9 Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Would sell him for a reasonable amount (3mill). The number of times he loses the right midfielder is staggering. Probably because that's not his job.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I think those that give Fox stick for his defensive duties perhaps need to also consider how much slack he has to take up because Lallana is all over the place trying to make gameplays up front - i.e. sometimes he's having to cope on his own at the back. Personally I don't think we'll see much better unless big money is spent or we nurture another Bale through to the 1st team. Be careful what you wish for - he is part of the Saints TEAM - not a good idea to start breaking up that up.
The9 Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I think those that give Fox stick for his defensive duties perhaps need to also consider how much slack he has to take up because Lallana is all over the place trying to make gameplays up front - i.e. sometimes he's having to cope on his own at the back. Personally I don't think we'll see much better unless big money is spent or we nurture another Bale through to the 1st team. Be careful what you wish for - he is part of the Saints TEAM - not a good idea to start breaking up that up. Funnily enough not often something Dan Harding had a problem coping with.
VectisSaint Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Probably because that's not his job.So what is his job?
saintscottofthenortham Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I think he's better than a lot give him credit for. The game isn't exactly overflowing with decent left backs. I'm with you on that. I rate our Danny very highly indeed.
stu0x Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Probably because that's not his job. So as a left back, his job isn't defending attacks on the left side of the pitch? Interesting.
dubai_phil Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Posted 3 May, 2012 OK my view is that Fox has improved as the season has gone on. Certainly he can be caught out of position (agree with the comments about the Lallana cover in front of him). Certainly he can stand off too much and that has cost us gaols. But on the positive side his delivery from corners has been a game changer, I have no idea on the stats but it seems to me we have scored far more goals from corners this year than our previous stay in the Championship. The variation with his fizzed balls and Lallana's corners cause defences all sorts of problems. I seriously doubt he will be off to Spuds, yep it was on Twitter after all, BUT like Guly, I think he is better than many believe and LB is certainly a position where we will not have to strengthen during the summer until AFTER we have filled the priority areas (especially with Luke Shaw possibly stepping up to the bench next season) And anyway we still have Dickson in reserve to come back in from loan....
SuperSAINT Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 He's got premier-league delivery from crosses... But can't believe Spurs are watching him.
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Well I look at like this - when he has agood game his abilty and class is obviious, but like so many in the lower leagues, who have/had the talent, its the lack of consistency that differentiates the Ok, from the good, from the excellent - part of taht will be confidence, part will be graft and part will be down to how much he can rely on his team mates to cove or be in the right position at the right time.... would not surprise me as his delivery when on form is top class... but he still needs to developm that consistency to take him to the next level.
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 I bet we would struggle to get someone as good with what ever money spurs may pay to get him
Saint_clark Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Would sell him for a reasonable amount (3mill). The number of times he loses the right midfielder is staggering. Considering Lallana is allowed a lot of freedom with his attacking play, I think Fox has been outstanding this season often having to cover that entire flank himself.
Appy Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox leaving would leave us with Harding, christ that is scary.
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox leaving would leave us with Harding, christ that is scary. Harding v Valencia.
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox leaving would leave us with Harding, christ that is scary. I think we would be allowed to buy another player to be honest, so not so scary really...................
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 (edited) Considering Lallana is allowed a lot of freedom with his attacking play, I think Fox has been outstanding this season often having to cover that entire flank himself. Which would be fair comment except A) Adam does his fair share of denfensive work B)foxoften completely fails to cover the flank at all most of the time Edited 3 May, 2012 by doddisalegend
RobM Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Surely this is just a deliberate attempt to draw attention to the Twitter account, to increase followers?
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox leaving would leave us with Harding, christ that is scary. Hardly ideal...but I seem to remember Harding giving a good account of himself against ManU in the cup last time out....It's not like we wouldn't buy a replacement for fox anyway.
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Hardly ideal...but I seem to remember Harding giving a good account of himself against ManU in the cup last time out....It's not like we wouldn't buy a replacement for fox anyway. but what is the point...hardly going to get anyone better
Saint_clark Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Which would be fair comment except A) Adam does his fair share of denfensive work B)foxoften completely fails to cover the flank at all most of the time Sometimes, yes - but he is also often caught behind the play because we've been on the attack, given the ball away and the opponents have broken.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 but what is the point...hardly going to get anyone better Wayne Bridge
dubai_phil Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Posted 3 May, 2012 Surely this is just a deliberate attempt to draw attention to the Twitter account, to increase followers? To be fair it was a Retweet by the official SaintsfanZone..... (Oooh I've been waiting ages for my turn to say this) Make of that what you will.
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 but what is the point...hardly going to get anyone better What you don't think Fox will be out the door like a shot if spurs came calling? Plus I'm really hoping the club is already looking for new fullbacks (left and right) as that is our weakest postions IMO as to who I'll leave it up to the clubs scouting network.
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 What you don't think Fox will be out the door like a shot if spurs came calling? Plus I'm really hoping the club is already looking for new fullbacks (left and right) as that is our weakest postions IMO as to who I'll leave it up to the clubs scouting network. probably...but lets say it is £3m.........would be a struggle to get someone for that to be better...or even as good. a load of guff anyway
Crab Lungs Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 (edited) I don't believe some of what I'm reading. A left back that has contributed nearly 15 assists this year and has performed well in his position (effectively a wingback) is being rubbished and recommended for transfer? Like Lallana was being written off 3 years ago... and the rest. Like any player, he's not perfect but I'd doubt we'd find anyone else as good and who'd fit into our style for whatever we would sell him for. And he'll probably get better, too. PS: People who say Lallana doesn't cover Fox are totally incorrect. Our system leaves our fullbacks exposed, not the players in front of them. And Lallana works feckin' hard. Edited 3 May, 2012 by Crab Lungs
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Saints fan and PA journalist Simon Peach mentioned Spurs were tracking Fox in January. I can well believe it. And just because they are tracking him won't mean they are preparing a bid or anything. I imagine clubs like Spurs are tracking 100+ players at any one time anyway. Kudos to Fox and the club for his form. I've no doubt that Fox will do well when we've got the ball next season but his concentration will need to be top notch against the calibre of winger he is going to face.
captainchris Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox has a great dead ball on him, but apart from that I'm not a huge fan. His performance away at Doncaster was one of the worst I've seen in a good while from a Saints player (although no one covered themselves in glory that day). I think he is defensively suspect, doesn't support Lallana that well (in the way that Richardson does with whoever plays on the right of midfield) and is prone to playing "Hollywood balls" that often don't work out. If we can find a decent replacement I wouldn't mind him going, but I have no idea who that would be! A perfect summary if I might say. Been found wanting in my opinion and will not be good enough in the PL.
Stu Man Do Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 but what is the point...hardly going to get anyone better See is that not just a silly comment? Can you honestly say that there is not ONE left back of equal or better of our very own Danny Fox? The guys been alright but not spectacular this season. His crossing and out ball is generally good but he falls down on his ability to work the flank with Lallana and often stands off his man giving space for most recent example see his performance vs Kebe @ sms. Kebe is no where near one of the best wingers who will be in the prem next year so imagine what a Valencia or a Bale could do to him!!!
captainchris Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Considering Lallana is allowed a lot of freedom with his attacking play, I think Fox has been outstanding this season often having to cover that entire flank himself. Is this the same fox that always sits off a wide player and stands and watches him cross the ball in rather than closing down......Does it time and time again.....
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Is this the same fox that always sits off a wide player and stands and watches him cross the ball in rather than closing down......Does it time and time again..... I was starting to think I was the only one who was seeing that...reading about how many people think Danny Fox is amazing.
Nexstar Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox is good going forward, but seems clueless on actually marking a player. Not chance Spurs are looking at him.
Ziggy Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Fox has a great dead ball on him, but apart from that I'm not a huge fan. His performance away at Doncaster was one of the worst I've seen in a good while from a Saints player (although no one covered themselves in glory that day). I think he is defensively suspect, doesn't support Lallana that well (in the way that Richardson does with whoever plays on the right of midfield) and is prone to playing "Hollywood balls" that often don't work out. If we can find a decent replacement I wouldn't mind him going, but I have no idea who that would be! Absolutely spot on. Although he is ten times better than Harding.
Legod Third Coming Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Interesting. Successful team apparently full of very average players...
beatlesaint Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Is this the same fox that always sits off a wide player and stands and watches him cross the ball in rather than closing down......Does it time and time again..... Thats the one.....quite often he needs binoculars to see the wide player he is supposed to be marking as he is so bloody far away from him.
doddisalegend Posted 3 May, 2012 Posted 3 May, 2012 Interesting. Successful team apparently full of very average players... Hardly we're talking about one player on this thread....Nigels already said that we need to go for players better than we have. Fox while not bad going forward is a defensive liability at times and he is only going to face better players next season.
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