Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I quite agree, as an example of what I have to put up with I was sent a text whilst I was at the Blackpool away game from a fam of antoher club I know of a picture of a group of our fans in gimp suits with another dressed as a woman and the comment "I'm not sure which is funnier your embarassing fans or seeing you get dicked" ...and? so what, says more about those texting you than about our fans - just tell the tsoser to psis off, we are premier league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I quite agree, as an example of what I have to put up with I was sent a text whilst I was at the Blackpool away game from a fam of antoher club I know of a picture of a group of our fans in gimp suits with another dressed as a woman and the comment "I'm not sure which is funnier your embarassing fans or seeing you get dicked" Oooohf! That must have hurt!!...You ok now we've got promoted or is it still wrankling? I really hope it was from a fan of a club that didn't win automatic promotion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ........seeing you get dicked" Were you stood with the guys in gimp suits then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ...and? so what' date=' says more about those texting you than about our fans - just tell the tsoser to psis off, we are premier league...[/quote'] Obviously some of you lot are pleased our fans are a laughing stock, odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ...and? so what' date=' says more about those texting you than about our fans - just tell the tsoser to psis off, we are premier league...[/quote'] It's quite clear you haven't got a clue about fan culture, so why do you constantly post on these type of threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de-fence Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Obviously some of you lot are pleased our fans are a laughing stock, odd. Or maybe you care far too much what people think of you and your club. Let's call in the psychologist: Cares a lot about what people think of him - distinct insecurities - creates alternative persona on an internet forum where no one can see the reality behind the name... Yea I suppose that does make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 It's quite clear you haven't got a clue about fan culture, so why do you constantly post on these type of threads? Thats the trouble though - you think 'fan culture' is one thing. It isnt just single blokes aged 16-35 on the lash bantering, giving it large and dressing in co-ordinated labels. Never was, never going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 FC; when I say "constant comments" I mean whenever we're on TV and have non-Saints fans with me. It is noticeable that we do have a large proportion of fancy dressers and face painted adults amongst our fan base. I'm pretty sure its not envy that is fuelling the comments, if I'm honest. I'm happy to hear that when you are out with friends that you surround yourself with people of a similar mindset; that they are all fashion gurus who detest anybody who dares to wear anything they want, instead of the outfits that are deemed to be cool by the fashionistas. It's only natural that you surround yourself with people of a similar mindset (or perhaps sychophants) but although you suggest that it is not envy that fuels their comments when they see the Saints fancy-dressers on TV, I reckon it is because they are narrow-minded and a bit precious. They'd be more balanced and mature individuals if they were more accepting of the freedom of expression of others, a more live and let live attitude. But with luck, this maturity with come with the passing years, when people realise that fashionability is shallow and unimportant and will eventually be replaced with the self-confidence to wear whatever one likes without caring a damn what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Thats the trouble though - you think 'fan culture' is one thing. It isnt just single blokes aged 16-35 on the lash bantering, giving it large and dressing in co-ordinated labels. Never was, never going to be. That's exactly what it used to be. Driving to the game, straight into the ground, jester hat on and straight back home isn't a 'culture' it's just merely something that you do on a Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 But with luck, this maturity with come with the passing years, when people realise that fashionability is shallow and unimportant and will eventually be replaced with the self-confidence to wear whatever one likes without caring a damn what others think. [video=youtube;-U1Q3Mbklkk] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 FC; when I say "constant comments" I mean whenever we're on TV and have non-Saints fans with me. It is noticeable that we do have a large proportion of fancy dressers and face painted adults amongst our fan base. I'm pretty sure its not envy that is fuelling the comments, if I'm honest. I don't give a toss what Man U fans think of us. It isn't my cup of tea to dress up like a clown or whatever but I admire the spirit of those that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Thats the trouble though - you think 'fan culture' is one thing. It isnt just single blokes aged 16-35 on the lash bantering, giving it large and dressing in co-ordinated labels. Never was, never going to be. ...which is the point they either dont get or are unwilling to accept. Fan culture is an evolving thing - you only have to look at it across the decades - everyone just latches on to the one that suits them best (grew up with) and thinks thats it, must not change, must not evolve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Thats the trouble though - you think 'fan culture' is one thing. It isnt just single blokes aged 16-35 on the lash bantering, giving it large and dressing in co-ordinated labels. Never was, never going to be. I agree, it's about everything together. I'd hate to see a large turn out of fancy dressed fans week in week out. I'd also hate to see a stadium full of only lads giving it large. I personally think we've got a great rep at SMS and aside from those fans down the road most fans from other clubs don't have too many bad words to say about us. You can see that from the comments we got when we were promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ...which is the point they either dont get or are unwilling to accept. Fan culture is an evolving thing - you only have to look at it across the decades - everyone just latches on to the one that suits them best (grew up with) and thinks thats it, must not change, must not evolve... Why should people be forced to change just to fit in with current trends? Surely that's just following the masses which is something you've criticised me for in other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ...which is the point they either dont get or are unwilling to accept. Fan culture is an evolving thing - you only have to look at it across the decades - everyone just latches on to the one that suits them best (grew up with) and thinks thats it, must not change, must not evolve... Yes a lot has changed since the days of being caged in as a 8 year old at the dell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 That's exactly what it used to be. Driving to the game, straight into the ground, jester hat on and straight back home isn't a 'culture' it's just merely something that you do on a Saturday. It may well be that even in the 30s 40, 50,s and 60s it was blokes and kids driving to the games, but they wore scarves, rossettes and twirled the wooden rattles - Its pretty easy to assume that in thos edays those folk would have had a much more relaxed attitude to other forms of support - you seem stuck in the 80s culture and what was 'traditional' at that time.... that is what you are not acknowledging - you simply dont want football 'fan' culture to evolve from blokes on the lash to families and fun - fair enough if thats your view, but its limiting and narrow minded. The culture will evolve based on what the majority of the fans want and do. You can either accept it, be miserable about it or stay at home, but you wont be able to change it. The only thing that will stop those going who dress up, paint their faces and take their kids, is a return to the intimidating and more threatening atmosphere of the 80s and 90s 'culture' - I could just as validly suggest we shoudl return to teh 40s and go and support pompey when saints are away - that was the culture then so why is it any less valid now than your hang up over the lads on the lash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 (edited) That's exactly what it used to be. Driving to the game, straight into the ground, jester hat on and straight back home isn't a 'culture' it's just merely something that you do on a Saturday. Nah it wasnt. At first for me it was meet my dad straight from working Saturday mornings at Vospers along with 20-30 of his workmates still wearing their workclothes and a load of their kids, quick session at the Woolston Social and walk up to the Dell. Later it was doing what you described - home and away every game, beer and chants. Now its 10 games a season with a mixed bag of two kids under 10 sister and brother in tow. At some point later maybe I'll have a flask and a blanket. Personally I find the jesters and hands a bit cringeworthy, but no worse than the skinny 18 years who bang the boards but couldnt explain the offside rule to you. Edited 2 May, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Why should people be forced to change just to fit in with current trends? Surely that's just following the masses which is something you've criticised me for in other posts. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. That's the point, people do what they like. The 'fan culture' then tends to be defined by the cross section... if the majority are lads on the beer, then that tends to be defining group... if the majority are dressed like clowns, then that will be. I've not bothered commenting on this thread yet, but it's all really quite simple. Do what you like, wear what you like, drink what you like, act how you like (within the law)... respect others' right to the same and get on with supporting Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Why should people be forced to change just to fit in with current trends? Surely that's just following the masses which is something you've criticised me for in other posts. But no one is forcing you to chnage - you are free to enjoy football as YOU want to, with your mates, beers and teh match - that is your right. All I am saying is that there has been a shift for a number of cultural and significantly social reasons why football is now more attractive to a wider group who want to watch it in their own way... and that they should also be free to that... why you and a the otehrs get so worked up about football being more inclusive or comments form a few equally minded other fans think is what we are questioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 All stadiums in the last 30 years are much more family friendly and safer places for young kids to go. Having more kids at gameswill in itself will bring a more fun approach, thus why we get jesters hats, clown suits at games like Saturday. As long as it doesn't happen at every game I can't see much wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Yes a lot has changed since the days of being caged in as a 8 year old at the dell. Thankfully. When I was taken as a 6 year old to Saints Forest at the Dell in 1975... cant remember anything, but dont think it was a great experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 It may well be that even in the 30s 40, 50,s and 60s it was blokes and kids driving to the games, but they wore scarves, rossettes and twirled the wooden rattles - Its pretty easy to assume that in thos edays those folk would have had a much more relaxed attitude to other forms of support - you seem stuck in the 80s culture and what was 'traditional' at that time.... that is what you are not acknowledging - you simply dont want football 'fan' culture to evolve from blokes on the lash to families and fun - fair enough if thats your view, but its limiting and narrow minded. The culture will evolve based on what the majority of the fans want and do. You can either accept it, be miserable about it or stay at home, but you wont be able to change it. The only thing that will stop those going who dress up, paint their faces and take their kids, is a return to the intimidating and more threatening atmosphere of the 80s and 90s 'culture' - I could just as validly suggest we shoudl return to teh 40s and go and support pompey when saints are away - that was the culture then so why is it any less valid now than your hang up over the lads on the lash? This but the lads on the lash are needed for the atmosphere in the ground. I'm sitting on the fence a bit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 ..... a fam of antoher club.... I'm surprised you can press the right keys on a phone to operate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I'm surprised you can press the right keys on a phone to operate it Leave him alone he might be slesdixic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 This but the lads on the lash are needed for the atmosphere in the ground. I'm sitting on the fence a bit here. Yep they are. I used to love the chants on the terraces and the surges forward making it like a mosh pit fuelled by alcohol. Football needs that atmosphere in part of the ground. Equally you need a section for the 9 year old and 75 year old that dont want someone standing in front of them and yelling "****ing cuuuuunt" in their ear all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Yep they are. I used to love the chants on the terraces and the surges forward making it like a mosh pit fuelled by alcohol. Football needs that atmosphere in part of the ground. Equally you need a section for the 9 year old and 75 year old that dont want someone standing in front of them and yelling "****ing cuuuuunt" in their ear all game. Hence why we have different sections of the ground. Maybe we should have a fancy dress section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Hence why we have different sections of the ground. Maybe we should have a fancy dress section. I wonder whether the 1930s-50s fans with striped bobble hats and wooden rattles used to get this style grief too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I guess it's freedom to do and dress as you choose 1 - Must conform to what a few have decided is acceptable - 0 FT I have enjoyed it though...can we debate what coloured seats we should have in the Premier League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I find the lads dressed in Stone Island more embarassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 'You cant stop a global tide' - fans adopt things they see into their own culture... I remember all those World Cups from 78 and the ticker tape in B. Aires, to the cameras that spent an excellent amount of time focusing on Brazil's skimperly clad samba girls, to the stunning Danish beauties with the face painted flags... many who have seen that and saw the 'fun' in football wanted to go, but felt they could not, until the atmosphere changed. I agree you DO still need the lads on the lash as PART of the crowd and fan base, but it does not need to be exclusively so, and I am glad about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I find the lads dressed in Stone Island more embarassing Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 But no one is forcing you to chnage - you are free to enjoy football as YOU want to' date=' with your mates, beers and teh match - that is your right. All I am saying is that there has been a shift for a number of cultural and significantly social reasons why football is now more attractive to a wider group who want to watch it in their own way... and that they should also be free to that... why you and a the otehrs get so worked up about football being more inclusive or comments form a few equally minded other fans think is what we are questioning?[/quote'] Because they don't want their club represented on tv by a middle aged men dressed as clowns, face-painted, waving balloons. The same reason Westwood is an embarrassing freak. You seem to be the only person on here constantly going on about football violence and intimidation, I don't think one other person has mentioned that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 'You cant stop a global tide' - fans adopt things they see into their own culture... I remember all those World Cups from 78 and the ticker tape in B. Aires' date=' to the cameras that spent an excellent amount of time focusing on Brazil's skimperly clad samba girls, to the stunning Danish beauties with the face painted flags... many who have seen that and saw the 'fun' in football wanted to go, but felt they could not, until the atmosphere changed. I agree you DO still need the lads on the lash as PART of the crowd and fan base, but it does not need to be exclusively so, and I am glad about that.[/quote'] Exactly and as I said before I think the mix at SMS is just about right. Others on here obviously disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Because they don't want their club represented on tv by a middle aged men dressed as clowns, face-painted, waving balloons. The same reason Westwood is an embarrassing freak. You seem to be the only person on here constantly going on about football violence and intimidation, I don't think one other person has mentioned that. I can only assume FC doesn't use social media. That image of the weirdo dressed as a clown at Boro, looking like he's about to cry was plastered all over Twitter with football fans from every corner of the country ridiculing Southampton FC. I genuinely don't understand why people think that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Because they don't want their club represented on tv by a middle aged men dressed as clowns, face-painted, waving balloons. The same reason Westwood is an embarrassing freak. You seem to be the only person on here constantly going on about football violence and intimidation, I don't think one other person has mentioned that. jeez.... FFS ... the fact that violence and intimidation has thankfully been removed (in most part) form our domestic game is WHY we see a cultural shift - more families, more kids, more 'fun' atmosphere - I would suggest it would have happened earlier had that atmosphere not evolved in the late 60s.... Its not 'going on about' boll ox and you know it, its merely making a valid point that football fan culture was ALWAYs going evolve once that atmosphere had been removed - enough fans felt dienfranchised during those days, who now go and bring the kids and grandkids for a good time. Some dont like it, fair enough, but what we see today is a result of shift away from that 'culture' in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.... you cant say that it has not played a significant part. Yes Westwood is a strange individual, but yes he is entitled to support his club (whilst it still exists) as he sees fit, but he should remember, if at SMS his Bell should be stuck well and truely up his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I can only assume FC doesn't use social media. That image of the weirdo dressed as a clown at Boro, looking like he's about to cry was plastered all over Twitter with football fans from every corner of the country ridiculing Southampton FC. I genuinely don't understand why people think that's ok. Because those ridiculing Southamption FC based on the lack of dress sense of one clown are obviously thick as shiedt if they judge a whole club on how individuals behave -- as such their 'opinion' means feck all. The fact that you worry about the opinions of some dim wits who think its some kind of ****ing contest and make sweeping judgements about a club because a few fans like to dress up and enjoy the game their way is what is being questioned. You are in effect saying you value the opinion of those feck wits who judge people just on how they might dress ... are you really being serious? They are ignorant feck wits, whose opinion should count for feck all.. Jeez, its such a trivial issue and if your ego cant stand a bit of leg puling, .... it must be a tad fragile for what I assume is an adult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I can only assume FC doesn't use social media. That image of the weirdo dressed as a clown at Boro, looking like he's about to cry was plastered all over Twitter with football fans from every corner of the country ridiculing Southampton FC. I genuinely don't understand why people think that's ok. Thats probably it, nail on head. Generally people in their late 30s and older dont really care very much whether other people like their clothes, hair, looks etc - especially not on something as ephemeral as twitter. Younger people tend to think it matters (and yes I know that sounds condescending, it isnt meant to be, its just what happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I can only assume FC doesn't use social media. That image of the weirdo dressed as a clown at Boro, looking like he's about to cry was plastered all over Twitter with football fans from every corner of the country ridiculing Southampton FC. I genuinely don't understand why people think that's ok. No, i use it frequently, but am not 'hurt' or embarrassed by the inane attempts at cyber bullying by ignorant individuals who cant see that a few folk dressing up at football having 'fun' is perfectly within their rights and of no consquence. Dressing up is a trivial issue... a more important one is that of personal freedom and inclusivity. Would you be so against inclusivity and rights of all fans to attend and support as they wish if the 'groups' 'endangering' football culture were not families waving flags of folk dressed up, but an ethic minority? or Women? Same principle... and why some on here are quite happy to keep challenging those that think certain types of fan doing the thing their way should be excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 jeez.... FFS ... the fact that violence and intimidation has thankfully been removed (in most part) form our domestic game is WHY we see a cultural shift - more families, more kids, more 'fun' atmosphere - I would suggest it would have happened earlier had that atmosphere not evolved in the late 60s.... Its not 'going on about' boll ox and you know it, its merely making a valid point that football fan culture was ALWAYs going evolve once that atmosphere had been removed - enough fans felt dienfranchised during those days, who now go and bring the kids and grandkids for a good time. Some dont like it, fair enough, but what we see today is a result of shift away from that 'culture' in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.... you cant say that it has not played a significant part. Yes Westwood is a strange individual, but yes he is entitled to support his club (whilst it still exists) as he sees fit, but he should remember, if at SMS his Bell should be stuck well and truely up his arse. I don't understand your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Thats probably it, nail on head. Generally people in their late 30s and older dont really care very much whether other people like their clothes, hair, looks etc - especially not on something as ephemeral as twitter. Younger people tend to think it matters (and yes I know that sounds condescending, it isnt meant to be, its just what happens). People who are so shallow that they could care a toss about how some similarly small-minded fans of a rival football club think about our fans wearing fancy-dress deserve to be condescended to and also pitied too. As you rightly say, this generally isn't a problem for those over thirty, most of whom gain a bit of perspective on life as they grow in maturity. Perhaps these shallow, callow youths might yet grow up to be embarassed that they placed so much importance on something so trivial. I suspect that when they have more important things to spend their money on, like a family and a mortgage, that is when most will revise their priorities. Mind you, it may be that then they cannot afford to go to football matches too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I don't understand your point. Why am I not surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 For those who know, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 People who are so shallow that they could care a toss about how some similarly small-minded fans of a rival football club think about our fans wearing fancy-dress deserve to be condescended to and also pitied too. As you rightly say, this generally isn't a problem for those over thirty, most of whom gain a bit of perspective on life as they grow in maturity. Perhaps these shallow, callow youths might yet grow up to be embarassed that they placed so much importance on something so trivial. I suspect that when they have more important things to spend their money on, like a family and a mortgage, that is when most will revise their priorities. Mind you, it may be that then they cannot afford to go to football matches too. You're obviously happy for other supporters to laugh at our club, thankfully many of us have a lot more pride than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 For those who know, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, no explanation is possible. Right back at you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 This thread is hilarious. Who gives a flying **** what people wear? Each to their own and all that. It's not as if people are forcing wigs and foam hands onto your person so what's the problem? May not be my cup of tea, but I'm not about go around telling people to stop it because some nasty Man Utd fans are making fun of us. Grow a pair of balls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 You're obviously happy for other supporters to laugh at our club, thankfully many of us have a lot more pride than that. You just don't get it, although I've tried my best to explain it. I'll have one final go at it. I don't really care what fans from other clubs think about us. It doesn't bother me. I'm not that shallow. I'm confident enough about myself not to care what others think about what I wear. That's something that comes with maturity. I have my own perspective about what is more important in life. Which bit didn't you understand? And as for your claim that "thankfully many of us have a lot more pride than that", that is bullsh*t. Why is what you wear a barometer of one's pride in one's club? I'd love an explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 You're obviously happy for other supporters to laugh at our club, thankfully many of us have a lot more pride than that. Can you name me clubs that don't get laughed at...go on say Millwall you know you want to! Remember the fat bird giving it large or the **** in the pink jumper the other year? Every club has there share of them its just that the majority apart from your little club can't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Guys, it seems we are going round in circles here maybe we should just discuss it over a beer. Anyone who wants to join me I'll be at the bar wearing my illuminous green and pink shell suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 You just don't get it, although I've tried my best to explain it. I'll have one final go at it. I don't really care what fans from other clubs think about us. It doesn't bother me. I'm not that shallow. I'm confident enough about myself not to care what others think about what I wear. That's something that comes with maturity. I have my own perspective about what is more important in life. Which bit didn't you understand? And as for your claim that "thankfully many of us have a lot more pride than that", that is bullsh*t. Why is what you wear a barometer of one's pride in one's club? I'd love an explanation. Look, there is no need to get so angry and worked up about it! Some of us take more pride in our club and how it is viewed around the world than others. There is nothing wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Guys, it seems we are going round in circles here maybe we should just discuss it over a beer. Anyone who wants to join me I'll be at the bar wearing my illuminous green and pink shell suit. Thank god you posted, it would've been so embarrassing when we turned up wearing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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