JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Very true. It's amazing how many people cannot hold a knife and fork properly. My old dear was a stickler for table manners and because of that I also judge people on it when i'm out. This! It's like when i like drive past the KFC in like winchester, like, er ****face, how can u eat chicken with your fingers? yah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2012 This! It's like when i like drive past the KFC in like winchester, like, er ****face, how can u eat chicken with your fingers? yah Not exactly no. The point i'm making is that it doesn't matter where you came from or how you talk, little things like table manners reveal the truth about class. I have see it countless times in restaurants - people with put on posh accents trying to impress (usually loudly) and at the same time not having a clue hold to hold their knife and fork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Not exactly no. The point i'm making is that it doesn't matter where you came from or how you talk, little things like table manners reveal the truth about class. I have see it countless times in restaurants - people with put on posh accents trying to impress (usually loudly) and at the same time not having a clue hold to hold their knife and fork. I dont care about how they hold their cutlery, what gets me is when the bastards talk through a mouthful of food. God, that annoys me. That really, really annoys me. I would cheerfully stab their eyes out and wouldn't care whether or not I was using the correct fork in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Not exactly no. The point i'm making is that it doesn't matter where you came from or how you talk, little things like table manners reveal the truth about class. I have see it countless times in restaurants - people with put on posh accents trying to impress (usually loudly) and at the same time not having a clue hold to hold their knife and fork. wait, which class are we talking? like lower class and upper class, or as in etiquette, or is it that special something when you look into turkish's eyes and you know, you just know, he has class...? tbh i didnt think u we're actually making a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 How early do you get up to be this thick? It's a genuine talent. You're making my points, arguing against yourself and you can't see it? Or can and are an obtuse, obnoxious little troll. I just find your views on those fans that haven't had a public school education or make some kind of effort to dress differently when going to football (you called them 'sectionable' I think) unfortunate. However, if you choose to look down your nose at the majority of other Saints fans, I fully respect your right to do so, even if I don't agree with it. Descending to name calling of other posters (as above), seems to tie in with this I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Why is what you wear a barometer of one's pride in one's club? I'd love an explanation I asked you this question several posts ago, Sour Mash, but you haven't responded. Is it because you cannot? If you can justify your position, then I'd be fascinated to hear the reasoning behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 (edited) wait, which class are we talking? like lower class and upper class, or as in etiquette, or is it that special something when you look into turkish's eyes and you know, you just know, he has class...? tbh i didnt think u we're actually making a point You're right about one thing, I do. I ooze it. What amuses me are thoset claims from our wannabe psychologists that dressing well and carrying yourself with a bit of class and style mean you are insecure and lack confidence. Les Bender was at pains to tell us all how confident he was and his maturity meant he didn't care how he dressed or how he looked, is it us he's trying to convince or himself? The joke is on these bloated, scruffy complacent middle aged individuals, too "confident" to admit that their best days are long gone as they look down at their flaccid penis, tucked in amoungst some unkept pubic hair and beneath an ever expaning belly from too much over indulgence and too little excercise. Only insecure people go to the gym!!! After all he laughs, this belly is "all bought and paid for!" as he rubs his gut agresssively and grins like a homosexual being offered a chance to play supermarket sweep in Anne Summers. Of course not everyone can be like me, Sour Mash, Dune and this Charming Man. Some people might have to confidently accept their position in life as lesser beings, some even as low as one of life's losers. For everyone of us there is 1000 people who just don't get it so I'm not surprised the "confident" and "mature" people on here have already accepted their position in life and no doubt look from the outside in with more than a hint of jealousy at the chaps that appear to have it all. The ones they wished they were through out their lives. in The playground, on the athletics track, on the football pitch, in the pub, in the office, hell even on the forum mong boards!! People that have class, carry themselves with style and ultimately are life's winners. People that don't need to dress up in clown suits to have fun. People that dont need to attention seek to have a laugh. The attention is always on them, because as proper chaps that is how it has become. "but I'm confident" they cry!! Confident or resigned? I'll let them decided, only they know the truth. Edited 2 May, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I asked you this question several posts ago, Sour Mash, but you haven't responded. Is it because you cannot? If you can justify your position, then I'd be fascinated to hear the reasoning behind it. Not sure, I guess I didn't reply because you'd missed my point, but as you're so eager for a reply I hope this will stop you pestering me. Some of us take pride in the way our club is viewed around the world - that is obviously on the pitch, being the best team, playing the best football, carrying ourselves with class, but that is also off the pitch. Like it or not, fans do represent their clubs - our image and impression of different clubs are formed as much by how supporters behave as by their teams performances on the pitch, be that good or bad. Now, you might not care that other fans take the p**s out of Saints, or try to have a laugh at our expense, but I do - but as I say, some of us take more pride in our club than others. Nothing wrong with that. You're happy with people seeing Westwood type characters waving balloons at the cameras, I think we're better than that. Nothing to do with designer labels as many seem to be obssesed about or not wearing a Saints shirt - just not dressing up like an attention seeking ***t at every big televised game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 You're right about one thing, I do. I ooze it. What amuses me are thoset claims from our wannabe psychologists that dressing well and carrying yourself with a bit of class and style mean you are insecure and lack confidence. Les Bender was at pains to tell us all how confident he was and his maturity meant he didn't care how he dressed or how he looked, is it us he's trying to convince or himself? The joke is on these bloated, scruffy complacent middle aged individuals, too "confident" to admit that their best days are long gone as they look down at their flaccid penis, tucked in amoungst some unkept pubic hair and beneath an ever expaning belly from too much over indulgence and too little excercise. Only insecure people go to the gym!!! After all he laughs, this belly is "all bought and paid for!" as he rubs his gut agresssively and grins like a homosexual being offered a chance to play supermarket sweep in Anne Summers. Of course not everyone can be like me, Sour Mash, Dune and this Charming Man. Some people might have to confidently accept their position in life as lesser beings, some even as low as one of life's losers. For everyone of us there is 1000 people who just don't get it so I'm not surprised the "confident" and "mature" people on here have already accepted their position in life and no doubt look from the outside in with more than a hint of jealousy at the chaps that appear to have it all. The ones they wished they were through out their lives. in The playground, on the athletics track, on the football pitch, in the pub, in the office, hell even on the forum mong boards!! People that have class, carry themselves with style and ultimately are life's winners. People that don't need to dress up in clown suits to have fun. People that dont need to attention seek to have a laugh. The attention is always on them, because as proper chaps that is how it has become. "but I'm confident" they cry!! Confident or resigned? I'll let them decided, only they know the truth. skimmed through it but i get the gist, and i think the standard textbook answer for ur front about attacking middle aged men past their prime is because ur just about to get there, or ur a closet gay who is into daddy bears. and i guarantee i'm younger than you, so ur point is null and void. ergo, basically ur so insecure that even the insecurities of other insecure fans make you more insecure about ur insecure existence and would i be right in guessing ur turkish, turkish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 skimmed through it but i get the gist, and i think the standard textbook answer for ur front about attacking middle aged men past their prime is because ur just about to get there, or ur a closet gay who is into daddy bears. and i guarantee i'm younger than you, so ur point is null and void. ergo, basically ur so insecure that even the insecurities of other insecure fans make you more insecure about ur insecure existence and would i be right in guessing ur turkish, turkish? I can tell from your mongy txt spk that you are younger than me, what's your point? One day you'll realise sunshine, some people just have it. You can't put your finger on what "it" is, it's a rare and wonderful thing. But 1 fing is 4 sur, u dnt. Now run along sunshine, sum of us av betta ppl 2 talk 2. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Not sure, I guess I didn't reply because you'd missed my point, but as you're so eager for a reply I hope this will stop you pestering me. Some of us take pride in the way our club is viewed around the world - that is obviously on the pitch, being the best team, playing the best football, carrying ourselves with class, but that is also off the pitch. Like it or not, fans do represent their clubs - our image and impression of different clubs are formed as much by how supporters behave as by their teams performances on the pitch, be that good or bad. Now, you might not care that other fans take the p**s out of Saints, or try to have a laugh at our expense, but I do - but as I say, some of us take more pride in our club than others. Nothing wrong with that. You're happy with people seeing Westwood type characters waving balloons at the cameras, I think we're better than that. Nothing to do with designer labels as many seem to be obssesed about or not wearing a Saints shirt - just not dressing up like an attention seeking ***t at every big televised game. see ur confusing pride with opinion, it's ur opinion that clowns are embarrassing and doesn't have any relation to the amount of pride you have and changing someone's opinions is like trying to change their tastes the main issue is that u feel the need to take it out on said clowns, seriously, who starts a fight with a clown and u never got back to me, or did u see the error of ur ways? and i'm interested to know which public school u went to, bet it was norman court, they we're **** at football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 see ur confusing pride with opinion, it's ur opinion that clowns are embarrassing and doesn't have any relation to the amount of pride you have and changing someone's opinions is like trying to change their tastes the main issue is that u feel the need to take it out on said clowns, seriously, who starts a fight with a clown and u never got back to me, or did u see the error of ur ways? and i'm interested to know which public school u went to, bet it was norman court, they we're **** at football Terrible attempt that. Try again in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 I can tell from your mongy txt spk that you are younger than me, what's your point? One day you'll realise sunshine, some people just have it. You can't put your finger on what "it" is, it's a rare and wonderful thing. But 1 fing is 4 sur, u dnt. Now run along sunshine, sum of us av betta ppl 2 talk 2. LOL. hit a nerve? plus, wanting to be book is not book and with an average of 5 posts a day over 5 years, u clearly don't have many people to talk to, and i doubt any of them are better and i pity all of u over-the-hillers who have had to cope with technology coming into ur life and ruining ur precious english language, just coz i choose to write like this doesn't limit my cerebral capacity, and i'm sure some of my smallest endeavours still top ur greatest achievement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Terrible attempt that. Try again in the morning. sleep is for quitters attempt at guessing the school? or is it just my forum class is below par for the SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Seems like quite a good Fred. This might be some decent bank holiday reading while unfortunately at work. I am firmly on the side of not dressing up like a tool if you are over the age of 7 by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 2 May, 2012 Share Posted 2 May, 2012 Seems like quite a good Fred. This might be some decent bank holiday reading while unfortunately at work. I am firmly on the side of not dressing up like a tool if you are over the age of 7 by the way. would that be a Draper tool or Stanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Not sure, I guess I didn't reply because you'd missed my point, but as you're so eager for a reply I hope this will stop you pestering me. Some of us take pride in the way our club is viewed around the world - that is obviously on the pitch, being the best team, playing the best football, carrying ourselves with class, but that is also off the pitch. Like it or not, fans do represent their clubs - our image and impression of different clubs are formed as much by how supporters behave as by their teams performances on the pitch, be that good or bad. Now, you might not care that other fans take the p**s out of Saints, or try to have a laugh at our expense, but I do - but as I say, some of us take more pride in our club than others. Nothing wrong with that. You're happy with people seeing Westwood type characters waving balloons at the cameras, I think we're better than that. Nothing to do with designer labels as many seem to be obssesed about or not wearing a Saints shirt - just not dressing up like an attention seeking ***t at every big televised game. While I get the gist of your point, and by extension that of Dune, Turkish etc, you must see there is a big difference between: a) the tvvats that dress up in ridiculous outfits every game, generally the overweight, middle aged guys (who at least appear sad and desperate) [see here John PFC Westwood] and b) people enjoying themselves on the last day of the season where it is a party/carnival atmosphere and like it or not dressing up has become a tradition in football (you remember the Southend lads who came down here on the last day a few years ago...nobody thought any less of them). These threads seem to have sprung up recently in response to the latter, based on at most 2 games (remember the televised Boro game was widely expected by many to be our promotion party). On these occasions some people want to have a bit of a celebration, and dressing up and being a bit crazy is what they want to do. If it is not your bag, so what? Grow up. You can't be serious ALL the time. I just don't see that we have much of a problem with a). There'll always be the odd few loons who want to put on a glitter wig, and good luck to them if they do, but never more than a handful and I've never heard of it as being identifiable with Saints by anyone outside the club. There is the enduring image of the lad in yellow clown attire at Boro with the sad face, which makes for a memorable photo, but I've never seen that guy dressed like that before or since. So I'm just confused really as to what these threads are aimed at. They just sound paranoid and insecure. They seemed to have morphed more recently into a plea for Saints fans to look and dress better at games...not to avoid fancy dress but to put more effort into their more general style. Frankly if you succeed in that then congratulations and we can have the best looking fans in the country, but personally I don't really see the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Of course not everyone can be like me, Sour Mash, Dune and this Charming Man. We're in a more complex area now, outside of my skill set but fortunately I found this link which might help http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder/article.htm There's no free phone number for this one I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 We're in a more complex area now, outside of my skill set but fortunately I found this link which might help http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder/article.htm There's no free phone number for this one I'm afraid. Did the ulcer keep you last night? LOL, PMSL, FAF etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 While I get the gist of your point, and by extension that of Dune, Turkish etc, you must see there is a big difference between: a) the tvvats that dress up in ridiculous outfits every game, generally the overweight, middle aged guys (who at least appear sad and desperate) [see here John PFC Westwood] and b) people enjoying themselves on the last day of the season where it is a party/carnival atmosphere and like it or not dressing up has become a tradition in football (you remember the Southend lads who came down here on the last day a few years ago...nobody thought any less of them). These threads seem to have sprung up recently in response to the latter, based on at most 2 games (remember the televised Boro game was widely expected by many to be our promotion party). On these occasions some people want to have a bit of a celebration, and dressing up and being a bit crazy is what they want to do. If it is not your bag, so what? Grow up. You can't be serious ALL the time. I just don't see that we have much of a problem with a). There'll always be the odd few loons who want to put on a glitter wig, and good luck to them if they do, but never more than a handful and I've never heard of it as being identifiable with Saints by anyone outside the club. There is the enduring image of the lad in yellow clown attire at Boro with the sad face, which makes for a memorable photo, but I've never seen that guy dressed like that before or since. So I'm just confused really as to what these threads are aimed at. They just sound paranoid and insecure. They seemed to have morphed more recently into a plea for Saints fans to look and dress better at games...not to avoid fancy dress but to put more effort into their more general style. Frankly if you succeed in that then congratulations and we can have the best looking fans in the country, but personally I don't really see the point. Well put... I struggled to believe that any of the 'cool gang' ('Specials?) weren't just on a wind up and I think that two of them were/are and have now reverted to humour again...the worrying ones are those whose humour-gland seems to have gone in to terminal decline and read like they believe their own keyboard tappings...can this be true? Westwood has a purpose...he's an icon to detest... and not just by we select band of multi-wardrobeists. My scouse mate has been spitting invective for years so he has become the focus for everything that's putrid about P*mpey....can you think of any other club that is identified in this way? That fat, bare-chested Northerner from Wednesday - NB Turkish...he's uber but it's all paid for! - that gets 'Have you ever seen your d ick' sung at him everywhere is the only other fan that I can even remember and probably only because I sat uncomfortably close when I was in Itchen 1 one time. But now I'm in danger of analysing...the silly season has started Premier style...dune - my (genuine) congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 While I get the gist of your point, and by extension that of Dune, Turkish etc, you must see there is a big difference between: a) the tvvats that dress up in ridiculous outfits every game, generally the overweight, middle aged guys (who at least appear sad and desperate) [see here John PFC Westwood] and b) people enjoying themselves on the last day of the season where it is a party/carnival atmosphere and like it or not dressing up has become a tradition in football (you remember the Southend lads who came down here on the last day a few years ago...nobody thought any less of them). These threads seem to have sprung up recently in response to the latter, based on at most 2 games (remember the televised Boro game was widely expected by many to be our promotion party). On these occasions some people want to have a bit of a celebration, and dressing up and being a bit crazy is what they want to do. If it is not your bag, so what? Grow up. You can't be serious ALL the time. I just don't see that we have much of a problem with a). There'll always be the odd few loons who want to put on a glitter wig, and good luck to them if they do, but never more than a handful and I've never heard of it as being identifiable with Saints by anyone outside the club. There is the enduring image of the lad in yellow clown attire at Boro with the sad face, which makes for a memorable photo, but I've never seen that guy dressed like that before or since. So I'm just confused really as to what these threads are aimed at. They just sound paranoid and insecure. They seemed to have morphed more recently into a plea for Saints fans to look and dress better at games...not to avoid fancy dress but to put more effort into their more general style. Frankly if you succeed in that then congratulations and we can have the best looking fans in the country, but personally I don't really see the point. An excellent summary, Deano. As you say, they appear to be incapable of differentiating between a) and b) and by concentrating their bile against those who see no harm in having a party atmosphere on key dates in the Saints season, they do indeed make themselves look paranoid, insecure, as well as small-minded and juvenile. They really must be sad individuals to care what fans of other clubs think about us and in a rather pathetic attempt to excuse it, they justify it by saying that it is pride in our club. It isn't. Mind you, one of them previously went as far as confronting rival fans and got into a spot of bother about it, so it doesn't surprise me that they think this way. I do indeed remember the Southend lads and what a great bunch they were. I wonder if they have some of these uber fans who will have been ashamed of them. I suppose so, as the fans of clubs come from a broad church. But I'd rather have a section of fans who dress like idiots occasionally, than a section who behave like idiots and get the club a bad name because they have a reputation as trouble-makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 hit a nerve? plus, wanting to be book is not book and with an average of 5 posts a day over 5 years, u clearly don't have many people to talk to, and i doubt any of them are better and i pity all of u over-the-hillers who have had to cope with technology coming into ur life and ruining ur precious english language, just coz i choose to write like this doesn't limit my cerebral capacity, and i'm sure some of my smallest endeavours still top ur greatest achievement Can you say that again but not in tkt spk please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Thirdly - the truly bizarre idea that not wearing fancy dress is in some way linked to violence. Straight away i should point out you've actually contradicted this point by saying lads in the 80's used to dress up for the last game and still get into rows. Second to that the idea that those of us who find it embarrassing want violence is beyond prejudiced. In fact for me the most important people in the ground are those in the later years that have supported us through thick and thin."/QUOTE] This has NEVER been stated or opined, ans is a classic case of attempting deflect the clear point made by linking it to something else. All that was said, if you and te others were actually really bothered about this and not on some childish wind up, is that its seems 'bizarre' that thsoe so against costumes and dressing up, cant let go of what they consider 'fan culture' as it was 30 years ago. If that is the strength of their argument, why no insist we go back to the 50s and support pompey when they play at home? The only links to 'violence', is that it seems odd that the one era in football some seem so obsessed with, and the only ones not prepared to see fan culture evolve appear to be those citing this era as when 'propa' fans existed.... they forget that the change towards all seater, family, kids and face paint was driven by the excesses of that time - no where on hear has it ever been stated that they want a return to violence as you seem to suggest - so FFS read the fricken posts propoerly before attempting to twist others arguments - if you believe what you wrote above, its because the point made is obviously way beyond your grasp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Thirdly - the truly bizarre idea that not wearing fancy dress is in some way linked to violence. Straight away i should point out you've actually contradicted this point by saying lads in the 80's used to dress up for the last game and still get into rows. Second to that the idea that those of us who find it embarrassing want violence is beyond prejudiced. In fact for me the most important people in the ground are those in the later years that have supported us through thick and thin."/QUOTE] This has NEVER been stated or opined, ans is a classic case of attempting deflect the clear point made by linking it to something else. All that was said, if you and te others were actually really bothered about this and not on some childish wind up, is that its seems 'bizarre' that thsoe so against costumes and dressing up, cant let go of what they consider 'fan culture' as it was 30 years ago. If that is the strength of their argument, why no insist we go back to the 50s and support pompey when they play at home? The only links to 'violence', is that it seems odd that the one era in football some seem so obsessed with, and the only ones not prepared to see fan culture evolve appear to be those citing this era as when 'propa' fans existed.... they forget that the change towards all seater, family, kids and face paint was driven by the excesses of that time - no where on hear has it ever been stated that they want a return to violence as you seem to suggest - so FFS read the fricken posts propoerly before attempting to twist others arguments - if you believe what you wrote above, its because the point made is obviously way beyond your grasp... But the only one that keeps going on and on and on and on and on about football violence is you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 You're right about one thing, I do. I ooze it. What amuses me are thoset claims from our wannabe psychologists that dressing well and carrying yourself with a bit of class and style mean you are insecure and lack confidence. Les Bender was at pains to tell us all how confident he was and his maturity meant he didn't care how he dressed or how he looked, is it us he's trying to convince or himself? The joke is on these bloated, scruffy complacent middle aged individuals, too "confident" to admit that their best days are long gone as they look down at their flaccid penis, tucked in amoungst some unkept pubic hair and beneath an ever expaning belly from too much over indulgence and too little excercise. Only insecure people go to the gym!!! After all he laughs, this belly is "all bought and paid for!" as he rubs his gut agresssively and grins like a homosexual being offered a chance to play supermarket sweep in Anne Summers. Of course not everyone can be like me, Sour Mash, Dune and this Charming Man. Some people might have to confidently accept their position in life as lesser beings, some even as low as one of life's losers. For everyone of us there is 1000 people who just don't get it so I'm not surprised the "confident" and "mature" people on here have already accepted their position in life and no doubt look from the outside in with more than a hint of jealousy at the chaps that appear to have it all. The ones they wished they were through out their lives. in The playground, on the athletics track, on the football pitch, in the pub, in the office, hell even on the forum mong boards!! People that have class, carry themselves with style and ultimately are life's winners. People that don't need to dress up in clown suits to have fun. People that dont need to attention seek to have a laugh. The attention is always on them, because as proper chaps that is how it has become. "but I'm confident" they cry!! Confident or resigned? I'll let them decided, only they know the truth. The only class relevent to you Turkish is remedial... all they they call that learning support now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 The only class relevent to you Turkish is remedial... all they they call that learning support now And Frankie resorts to personal insults as well. Oh dear, I thought you were better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 But the only one that keeps going on and on and on and on and on about football violence is you. NO, the only one who does is you... Go back through the posts, I dont believe I use the word once before the above.... hardly surprizing that tolerance is something the EDL flag wavers struggle with really.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 And Frankie resorts to personal insults as well. Oh dear, I thought you were better than that. Told on another post, I have no problem with insult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Thirdly - the truly bizarre idea that not wearing fancy dress is in some way linked to violence. Straight away i should point out you've actually contradicted this point by saying lads in the 80's used to dress up for the last game and still get into rows. Second to that the idea that those of us who find it embarrassing want violence is beyond prejudiced. In fact for me the most important people in the ground are those in the later years that have supported us through thick and thin."/QUOTE] This has NEVER been stated or opined, ans is a classic case of attempting deflect the clear point made by linking it to something else. All that was said, if you and te others were actually really bothered about this and not on some childish wind up, is that its seems 'bizarre' that thsoe so against costumes and dressing up, cant let go of what they consider 'fan culture' as it was 30 years ago. If that is the strength of their argument, why no insist we go back to the 50s and support pompey when they play at home? The only links to 'violence', is that it seems odd that the one era in football some seem so obsessed with, and the only ones not prepared to see fan culture evolve appear to be those citing this era as when 'propa' fans existed.... they forget that the change towards all seater, family, kids and face paint was driven by the excesses of that time - no where on hear has it ever been stated that they want a return to violence as you seem to suggest - so FFS read the fricken posts propoerly before attempting to twist others arguments - if you believe what you wrote above, its because the point made is obviously way beyond your grasp... Absolutely obsessed with football violence. Not healthy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 NO, the only one who does is you... Go back through the posts, I dont believe I use the word once before the above.... hardly surprizing that tolerance is something the EDL flag wavers struggle with really.... Oh dear, really struggling now aren't we Frankie boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Absolutely obsessed with football violence. Not healthy at all. .... great response, at least I dont have to read another compete misinterpretation of a post by you for your own ends... Next time you and back seat boys want to start a wind up thread, bit of advice: chose a subject that is not based on prejudice and intolerance - not really principles that make great laughing material - maybe Dune's old dear should have spent a little more time teaching him the fundementals of tolerance and less on the ettiquette of cutlary, and he might not have turned out such a bigot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 .... great response' date=' at least I dont have to read another compete misinterpretation of a post by you for your own ends... Next time you and back seat boys want to start a wind up thread, bit of advice: chose a subject that is not based on prejudice and intolerance - not really principles that make great laughing material - maybe Dune's old dear should have spent a little more time teaching him the fundementals of tolerance and less on the ettiquette of cutlary, and he might not have turned out such a bigot...[/quote'] you're on another level princess you really are!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2012 .... great response' date=' at least I dont have to read another compete misinterpretation of a post by you for your own ends... Next time you and back seat boys want to start a wind up thread, bit of advice: chose a subject that is not based on prejudice and intolerance - not really principles that make great laughing material - maybe Dune's old dear should have spent a little more time teaching him the fundementals of tolerance and less on the ettiquette of cutlary, and he might not have turned out such a bigot...[/quote'] I'm not a bigot, I am a patriot and I love my country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I'm not a bigot, I am a patriot and I love my country. Frankie boy has called those that are opposed to fancy dress as bigots, nazis, Intolerant, remedials, EDL supporters and appears to be obsessed by football violence. does anyone else think he may be slightly unstable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Frankie boy has called those that are opposed to fancy dress as bigots, nazis, Intolerant, remedials, EDL supporters and appears to be obsessed by football violence. does anyone else think he may be slightly unstable? One only has to witness his jumbled rants to realise he isn't all the ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I'm not a bigot, I am a patriot and I love my country. ...does that extend to freedom of speech and freedom of expression though, fundamental planks of our constitution that made this country great. It'll be kristallnacht at the local fancy dress shops all over town before we know it........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Maybe its just me, but why do I get the impression that Dune and Turkish are like Beavis and Butthead snig gering away behind their key boards... when you sprout bollock hair and get interested in girls, you might calm down a bit...there is always hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2012 ...does that extend to freedom of speech and freedom of expression though, fundamental planks of our constitution that made this country great. It'll be kristallnacht at the local fancy dress shops all over town before we know it........ I'm very liberal in my views, but there are certain limits. For example public nudity and clowns at the football. That said this thread is more about guidance. I think it's far better to let the 40 year old clowns know that they are an embarrassment and not appreciated. For all we know these characters may think they are an inspiration and are admired for what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Maybe its just me' date=' but why do I get the impression that Dune and Turkish are like Beavis and Butthead snig gering away behind their key boards... when you sprout bollock hair and get interested in girls, you might calm down a bit...there is always hope.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 ..it would be funny if we thought you were serious.... genuine question, when do you think your'll get bored of the trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Did Frank's Cousin let his offspring loose on here overnight? Plenty of posts from people completely missing the point and posting paragraph after paragraph of unrelated drivel. I particularly like the way some people have brought politics and education into the argument. What relevance does that have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I'm very liberal in my views, but there are certain limits. For example public nudity and clowns at the football. That said this thread is more about guidance. I think it's far better to let the 40 year old clowns know that they are an embarrassment and not appreciated. For all we know these characters may think they are an inspiration and are admired for what they do. I imagine they think they're truly hilarious. I can see them now leaving the house dressed as a clown, walking down the pub with a swagger, thinking they're really original and that everyone is going to be coming up and high-fiving them, laughing with them and generally congratulating them on being totally and utterly zany. But then there's always that moment when it all comes crashing down and this happens - You're caught on TV looking a complete and utter c*nt, thus leaving your fellow fans, football club and city open to ridicule from every corner of the globe... Why do people think that is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Why do people think that is acceptable? No more acceptable than this http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-casual-football-fan-fashions.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Can you say that again but not in tkt spk please. come on now, its not like I'm in a serious vowel drought, if u can't decipher my post then that's ur problem but it's a shame u cant even come up with a real answer or a witty response. u can't even troll properly. keep hiding behind ur wall of thesauri come on, play the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2012 No more acceptable than this http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-casual-football-fan-fashions.html I like the polo shirts, good value too... http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/p0/sergio-tacchini/316042.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Why do people think that is acceptable? how can u not find that funny? it seems this tragic juxtaposition is something ur sense of humour just can't get, but then again i'm not surprised considering ur top button is stemming the flow of blood to ur brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I like the polo shirts, good value too... http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/p0/sergio-tacchini/316042.htm Its not actually the clothes I object to, its the herd mentality. Just as evident in the casuals, maybe more so, as in the ginger wigs and jesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 No more acceptable than this http://uk.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-casual-football-fan-fashions.html Lyle & Scott - Got some nice polos and jumpers for nights out but not really football clobber these days. Fila & Sergio Tachinni - Bit gypo these days. Generally worn by those who can't afford decent clobber. Pringle - Nobody wears that any more. Fred Perry - See Lyle & Scott. Burberry - Lost it's way thanks to the Burberry Cap taking off like a rocket. Some of the more subtle Thomas Burberry stuff like their knitwear is actually quite decent though. Lacoste and Ralph Lauren - Timeless classics worn by all sorts of people, from every walk of life. Aquascutum - Never been massively fussed on it though I do love my Cashmere scarf. Ridiculously comfortable. Stone Island - Produced some horrible stuff in recent years but they do churn out some lovely jackets still. If worn properly, it still looks the dogs b*llocks. Adidas Originals - The constant re-issues are slowly killing the brand but again, still capable of producing some lovely trainers. I prefer the limited edition releases. Though tend to lean towards New Balance and Superga these days. Clown Outfits - C*ntish. So all in all, that article is pretty out of touch with the modern day casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I like the polo shirts, good value too... http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/p0/sergio-tacchini/316042.htm lol @ u wanting to be danny dyer, didn't thing anyone was that pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2012 lol @ u wanting to be danny dyer, didn't thing anyone was that pathetic What are you going on about Deppo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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