Sour Mash Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 How are shirts normally sold on the first day? From the MEgastore at the ground? Weird that we decided to put them on sale the day before the store reopened. The cynic in me would think it'd be the classic marketing trick of small shop, only letting a few in at a time, creates a big queue, looks great from a PR/demand point of view.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Behave yourself. Nice try though.What's you point? Oh you don't have one, just arguing for the sake of it. Crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 What's you point? Oh you don't have one, just arguing for the sake of it. Crack on. And you're not of course. Rank Xerox kit obviously striped. There you go. A point for you. Not sure why i need to spell it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Am I right in saying we are having a "one season" shirt, three seasons in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Am I right in saying we are having a "one season" shirt, three seasons in a row? 2008-10 First Umbro home shirt, 10/11 Sash, 11/12, and 12/13 PL Home shirt. Yes you're right! Did anyone find out how much they were charging for shirt printing and Prem badges today, btw. Just interested to see if Saints managed to charge more than JJB and SportsDirect. £12 for shirt printing (any name and number), £6 for a pair of Prem badges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponto1963 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Are we having a third kit this year? We cant wear either the home red kit or the away white kit to Sunderland can we? or have i missed something?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 could really care less about shorts and socks to be honest oh forgive me if I don't take an SWF poll as gospel to what a majority of saints fans think I do love a man who just ignores rational argument with a playground type comment like "oh I don't really care about that...". And you were really born in 1980?!? Do you have some empirical evidence you would rather use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 I do love a man who just ignores rational argument with a playground type comment like "oh I don't really care about that...". And you were really born in 1980?!? Do you have some empirical evidence you would rather use? haha...look, we are going around in circles..you are not happy, I am...... not a great deal is going to change our minds despite what we post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 haha...look, we are going around in circles..you are not happy, I am...... not a great deal is going to change our minds despite what we post On that we can can agree. From the evidence available 50% or more of our fans do not like the new kit. It won't stop me or them supporting the lads - loving it when we win, despairing when we lose. I will just have to put up with us doing it all in a poor man's Liverpool kit! (hopefully for just one season!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Good lord yes! 242 33.70% Good heavens no! 365 50.84% Is this really all we have to talk about? 111 15.46% Its not all negative then, at this moment in time, at least 242 fans on this forum like it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On that we can can agree. From the evidence available 50% or more of our fans do not like the new kit. It won't stop me or them supporting the lads - loving it when we win, despairing when we lose. I will just have to put up with us doing it all in a poor man's Liverpool kit! (hopefully for just one season!). On the evidence of this forum 50% don't like it sure. But then 1000-3000 people turned up today to buy the kit from West Quay (300-1300 more than the people that have voted on this thread)....all who thought the kit was nice otherwise they wouldn't have bought it. Therefore, the majority of fans actually like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On that we can can agree. From the evidence available 50% or more of our fans do not like the new kit. It won't stop me or them supporting the lads - loving it when we win, despairing when we lose. I will just have to put up with us doing it all in a poor man's Liverpool kit! (hopefully for just one season!). What evidence is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 What evidence is this? The poll on the thread you just posted in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On the evidence of this forum 50% don't like it sure. But then 1000-3000 people turned up today to buy the kit from West Quay (300-1300 more than the people that have voted on this thread)....all who thought the kit was nice otherwise they wouldn't have bought it. Therefore, the majority of fans actually like it... But imagine what it would have been like if the kit was universally thought to be bonkers/amazing by one and all. Rioting would have broken out and by now Southampton would be burnt to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Yes some people like the kit.. But I think overall it's disappointing...especially when they've tried to break away from the red and white stripes, only to come up with something that is very boring and similar to other clubs.. If you're going to do something different, then go for something like the Xerox kit, or even an awful kit like the euro kit... But don't just bring out somemone else's kit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On the evidence of this forum 50% don't like it sure. But then 1000-3000 people turned up today to buy the kit from West Quay (300-1300 more than the people that have voted on this thread)....all who thought the kit was nice otherwise they wouldn't have bought it. Therefore, the majority of fans actually like it... Lemmings? Blind Loyalty? More money than sense? Nothing else constructive to do on a cloudy Sunday? Consumerholics? Myopic? I could go on. The kit is crap full stop. Liverpool-look-alikes, and if you are happy with that.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Lemmings? Blind Loyalty? More money than sense? Nothing else constructive to do on a cloudy Sunday? Consumerholics? Myopic? I could go on. The kit is crap full stop. Liverpool-look-alikes, and if you are happy with that.....? what if loads are..? what would be your thoughts if this out sells the great sash kit..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Lemmings? Blind Loyalty? More money than sense? Nothing else constructive to do on a cloudy Sunday? Consumerholics? Myopic? I could go on. The kit is crap full stop. Liverpool-look-alikes, and if you are happy with that.....? Let it go FFS. You don't like it. Others do. I don't know why the likes of you, Alpine and others want to go so far out of your way to express your outrage at how bad it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 What we have is an all red kit. An all red kit. It. Is. Not. An. All. Red. Shirt. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Lemmings? Blind Loyalty? More money than sense? Nothing else constructive to do on a cloudy Sunday? Consumerholics? Myopic? I could go on. The kit is crap full stop. Liverpool-look-alikes, and if you are happy with that.....? You could say the same thing about the people that have voted 'No' on the poll on this very thread. Lemmings? Blind Anti-Establishmentism? Jealous of people that have money? Can't be bothered to get out of the house on a cloudy Sunday? People who shop at Wilkinsons? Myopic? The kit looks great full stop. Stoke/Sheffield United/Exeter/Sunderland-look-alikes, and if you are happy with that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 For those that care, the new kit has inspired me to write a blog. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/entry.php?81-Calm-Down!-Calm-Down! My two pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 It. Is. Not. An. All. Red. Shirt. . Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Yes it is. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On the evidence of this forum 50% don't like it sure. But then 1000-3000 people turned up today to buy the kit from West Quay (300-1300 more than the people that have voted on this thread)....all who thought the kit was nice otherwise they wouldn't have bought it. Therefore, the majority of fans actually like it... Statistics not your strong point then, unless you seriously think the 3,000 that turned up today turned up entirely because of the design, and not because it is a new Saints kit and not because it is a Premier League Saints kit. There's people on this thread that said they don't like it but will buy it. Also, lots of people who (like me) even if they thought it was the greatest kit ever made would not even dream of buying one. The majority of fans - in fact all fans - will get over it. But lots will think it is terrible, and that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 what would be your thoughts if this out sells the great sash kit..? Of course it will you pleb. We're a premier league team now, sash was league 1. We will sell more of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Yes it is. Oh my. Have you seen it? In person, I mean? Hell, even in pictures the white stripes are evidently clear. Anyway, **** it. It's only a shirt (red and white ) worst things have happened in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Oh my. Have you seen it? In person, I mean? Hell, even in pictures the white stripes are evidently clear. Anyway, **** it. It's only a shirt (red and white ) worst things have happened in life Don't forget the green on the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Of course it will you pleb. We're a premier league team now, sash was league 1. We will sell more of everything. then why was the sash the greatest ever....when in league 1 and not the prem. with the amount on here who will not buy this kit...surely, that has to be replicated in NON-SWF world....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Yes it is. ok i will bite Which part of white / grey pinstripe is red then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 If you people think that on TV or on Radio Five we're going to be described as "red with white and grey pinstripes which you can clearly see close up" shirts then you're fu ck ing mental. Forest and Liverpool and others did not wear stripes when they had a similar kit. Sweden didn't play in yellow and blue stripes in Euro 2012. Pinstripe is just trim. We're in red next season. Like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 If you people think that on TV or on Radio Five we're going to be described as "red with white and grey pinstripes which you can clearly see close up" shirts then you're fu ck ing mental. Forest and Liverpool and others did not wear stripes when they had a similar kit. Sweden didn't play in yellow and blue stripes in Euro 2012. Pinstripe is just trim. We're in red next season. Like it or not. I do like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Don't forget the green on the tree. Or have they done an autumn logo? Missed a trick there if they haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 If you people think that on TV or on Radio Five we're going to be described as "red with white and grey pinstripes which you can clearly see close up" shirts then you're fu ck ing mental. Forest and Liverpool and others did not wear stripes when they had a similar kit. Sweden didn't play in yellow and blue stripes in Euro 2012. Pinstripe is just trim. We're in red next season. Like it or not. Correct, Liverpool play in red, Liverpool had a red kit when they had pinstripes. Same with the red of Forest when they had pinstripes. We are in red, but not just red shirt. ALL red kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 For those that care, the new kit has inspired me to write a blog. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/entry.php?81-Calm-Down!-Calm-Down! My two pence. Not bad. I think I may well be with you later in the season longing to get the stripes back but for now I'm happy with the new shirt. I like the stripes but there is a limit what you can do with them and my favourite all time kits are the sash and some of the plain red kits of the 80s. In the season ticket DVD cortese said how the club has changed but the supporters have not. I don't think he was intending to pay us a compliment. At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their personal opinion and flipping between stripes and a more radical design every other year strikes me as a way yo keep everyone happy. Just take a look at the smiling faces on the os gallery and you realise that this bickering is undoubtedly out of place in a family club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 I take it in subbuteo we will now be know as Liverpool/Nottingham Forest/Southampton instead of the traditional Southampton/Sunderland/Stoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 http://football4africa.org/ Now now, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 On the evidence of this forum 50% don't like it sure. But then 1000-3000 people turned up today to buy the kit from West Quay (300-1300 more than the people that have voted on this thread)....all who thought the kit was nice otherwise they wouldn't have bought it. Therefore, the majority of fans actually like it... Oh dear, you're getting into very murky statistical waters here my friend... Based on the evidence we have (the poll above), I could very easily argue that, if you say the "3,000" that turned up (I believe he figure was more like 500, but anyway...) they represent those in the poll (statistically), thus 6,000+ fans DIDN'T turn up. Or we could do the no of people who turned up and bought kits as a % of the Saints supporting population of the city? Okay, being flippant, but you can't mix up your mathematical basis mate, you just can't... PS I have a few mates who, believe it or not, don't like the kit "but will probably buy it anyway", so even the supposition that those who buy he kit 'like' it is flawed. Strange world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 What the ?!*# are YOU doing on a football site with so many terrible things happening in the world?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 I don't think you can blame the new kit for that. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Correct, Liverpool play in red, Liverpool had a red kit when they had pinstripes. Same with the red of Forest when they had pinstripes. We are in red, but not just red shirt. ALL red kit. Forest have never played in all red, so don't know where the comparisons come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Forest have never played in all red, so don't know where the comparisons come from. I meant in respect of just the shirt. The shirt is red. Us playing in an all red kit is what makes it totally alien. We have played in red shirts before, that's fair enough but an entire red kit is not Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 (edited) Good lord yes! 242 33.70% Good heavens no! 365 50.84% Is this really all we have to talk about? 111 15.46% Its not all negative then, at this moment in time, at least 242 fans on this forum like it then I think that's what the percentages are for. 34% like it, 66% don't or don't care. Edited 1 July, 2012 by SW11_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 I meant in respect of just the shirt. The shirt is red. Us playing in an all red kit is what makes it totally alien. We have played in red shirts before, that's fair enough but an entire red kit is not Saints. We've played in red shirts before, we've played in red shorts before (granted not very often) and played in red socks before. We just haven't worn them all at the same time in the same kit. FWIW I'm in the 'not too sure' camp but not in the 'outraged of Lordshill' one. I do really like the away version though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 We've played in red shirts before, we've played in red shorts before (granted not very often) and played in red socks before. We just haven't worn them all at the same time in the same kit. FWIW I'm in the 'not too sure' camp but not in the 'outraged of Lordshill' one. I do really like the away version though. The key. You cannot take orphaned seperated brothers and immediately make a family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 The key. You cannot take orphaned seperated brothers and immediately make a family. Also I am sure we have worn red shorts on the odd occasion at away grounds but I don't think we have ever had red shorts as part of our "official" kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 I don't like it either, but it's not 'crap full stop'. Neither are saints red and white stripes as some have said, it's just inaccurate. But they certainly should be red and white in some form, which is why I don't like the kit. All red doesn't feel like saints to me. For some reason I think the air florida style would be the most saints for me, even though it's not stripes and wasn't worn for long. To be honest black shorts would probably have placated a fair few. It's the all red / Liverpool thing that I think annoys most dissenters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 We didn't wear striped shirts at all in the 1980s, until the 89/90 season. If you think the Rank Xerox one and the Hummel one were striped, then so is this new one. If you think this is striped, then Liverpool played in stripes for some of the 70s and 80s. They didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Also I am sure we have worn red shorts on the odd occasion at away grounds but I don't think we have ever had red shorts as part of our "official" kit. Not as a home kit, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2012 Share Posted 1 July, 2012 Not as a home kit, no. well, we do now (for a year, at least) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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