hypochondriac Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 It's fair enough if you don't like it, but it certainly can't be described as 'unoriginal' or 'unimaginative' can it. I suspect he means it is unoriginal because it looks very similar to that old liverpool kit and unimaginative because from a distance it looks completely red so there isn't much imagination in comparison to say the sash kit or other kits we have had down the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 It's fair enough if you don't like it, but it certainly can't be described as 'unoriginal' or 'unimaginative' can it. If anything, its the most original kit we've had in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 If anything, its the most original kit we've had in many years. serious question here as I don't know how many prem clubs...or even english clubs have this design....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 If anything, its the most original kit we've had in many years. Exactly. I can see reasons why people might not like it, but I think some of the criticism on here is made up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Exactly. I can see reasons why people might not like it, but I think some of the criticism on here is made up as they go along. Agree with this. Someone said it was inspirational earlier - it aint - but by the same token it isn't unispiring either. Just a kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Exactly. I can see reasons why people might not like it, but I think some of the criticism on here is made up as they go along. What do you think of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 serious question here as I don't know how many prem clubs...or even english clubs have this design....? Without being pedantic and claiming that with the pinstripes its unique (it isn't, to all intents and purposes we have an all red kit)..... Just as a home kit; Liverpool obviously have it, and that's it in the PL. I'm pretty sure there are none in the Championship, all teams that wear red shirts have white or black shorts/socks. So 1 team in the top 2 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Agree with this. Someone said it was inspirational earlier - it aint - but by the same token it isn't unispiring either. Just a kit. I don't normally do emoticons, but... Again, I agree that some criticism has been OTT. You cannot compare us to what's going on at Cardiff. With them, it's 'have red shirts from now on or we pull the plug'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Without being pedantic and claiming that with the pinstripes its unique (it isn't, to all intents and purposes we have an all red kit)..... Just as a home kit; Liverpool obviously have it, and that's it in the PL. I'm pretty sure there are none in the Championship, all teams that wear red shirts have white or black shorts/socks. So 1 team in the top 2 divisions. M'boro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 M'boro? White socks (according to their wiki page). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 This thread just sums up Saintsweb. overeacting just because of a difference of opinion. its a piece of clothing ffs. if you like it,buy it,if you don't like it,don't buy it. we have not worn stripes on occasions....so what. lets hope we stay up eh! That is what is important,not being fashion gurus. In actual fact it is a lot more than that: It is a uniform. It is a brand. It is an identity. You wear it as a statement. You wear it to be supportive. You wear it to be proud. Sure it is a crappy little piece of polyester but within our society (and culture!) it has a meaning and represents a strong bond between a group of like minded people ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 without being pedantic, someone needs to tell them that the kit still is red and white stripes... Do Liverpool fans think they plyed in 'red & white stripes' in the 80's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 serious question here as I don't know how many prem clubs...or even english clubs have this design....? With the Southampton crest and aap3 Logo only one so lets face it. Its unique to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Do Liverpool fans think they plyed in 'red & white stripes' in the 80's? Red and white strippers probably plyed in Liverpool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Agree with this. Someone said it was inspirational earlier - it aint - but by the same token it isn't unispiring either. Just a kit. Agree. To be fair Saints Web has lived up to form on this one from both sides, more entertaining than everyone agreeing and being rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Do Liverpool fans think they plyed in 'red & white stripes' in the 80's? This is a very good point. I'll repeat what I said a while ago - you ask anyone what colours or design Southampton play in. The answer is 'red and white stripes'. For the pedants, they don't say 'red and white pinstripes'. We're known for the proper stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Close up of the home shirt. It's not one pinstripe, its two. The logo looks properly sh*t :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Assume the lettering and numbers will be white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Sounds a bit of a stretch but it is true that red is the best colour to have in a kit. Dunno if it's psychological or like you say cos the players see their team-mates that much quicker, but: Man Utd > Man City Liverpool > Everton Arsenal > Tottenham Southampton > Portsmouth Bristol City > Bristol Rovers Nottingham Forest > Notts County Wouldn't surprise me at all if Cardiff Reds are more successful than Cardiff Blues! Man city are better than Man United and Everton are better than Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 What do you think of it? I can see why some wouldn't like it -it is a fair divergence from what most would consider what a Saints home kit should look like and they are pushing it a bit with the lack of white on it. I'd be more concerned if it was part of a wider move to change our home colours permanently - guess none of us really know about that. Looking back its made me realise how few home shirts in the last 30 years have been the classic red&white stripes, especially compared to how little the likes of Stoke or Sunderland seem to deviate from their traditional kits. Think both kits look smart for what its worth, but then I only occasionally buy football shirts and that's to play in, so I'm not really part of the market audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Well, quite frankly I don't mind the kit. I'm sure it will grow on us all as the year goes on. 4 years ago we may not have had a club to support, and now we're complaining about the kit despite achieving back-to-back promotions...FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 in the last 32 years, we did not have traditional red and white stripes for 10 of those years.. and now this is a surprise..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 It's fair enough if you don't like it, but it certainly can't be described as 'unoriginal' or 'unimaginative' can it. You think a plain red kit with pin stripes is original and imaginative! Blimey. At least in the 80's when we ditched the traditional stripes the kits were a bit different, and they stayed in the Saints colours. Plonking a Saints badge on a Liverpool shirt is just lazy. Probably just the cheapest option available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Umm Saints shirts/colours aren't recognisable ??? eh. everyone knows we're red and white stripes. Yes we had the Sash for 1 season, apart from that always red & white stripes, that's our colours. That is why we should keep them, how will our new world wide audience know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 If we are doing this to reach an 'asian market' then we are well and truly selling our soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 If we are doing this to reach an 'asian market' then we are well and truly selling our soul. I will get one when am home or when a relative comes out here so we have already reached the Asian market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 The more I see it, the more I like it. I actually get a little kick from the fact it's annoying everyone too - but then I quite liked the Pony "rubgy" shirt from way back, although that's probably just nostalgia. I'm more concerned about the team we're building than the shirt. If we can get some decent performances in then I'm sure this shirt will grow on us. The retro (wide-central-stripe) shirt from the 80s is only so popular because we've associated it with a period of Saints success. I'm sure a similar period of (relative) success will make us like this shirt... Maybe grudgingly :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 That is why we should keep them, how will our new world wide audience know that? our new world wide audience won't give a feck about saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 first thing i said was its liverpools shirt of the eighties. personaly i dont like it but im sure many do and it will sell. i think saints are looking at their overseas market and not just home anymore. have to say the white away is ok. roll on the new season whatever shirt,coys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Personally, I'm not keen. Nothing wrong with change, but I think this has gone too far from our traditions. If I had anything to do with it, I would make the pinstripe wider. Say about 2 inches. And I would have black shorts. Apart from that, it's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 so it's £12 to get two numbers and 3 letters, and £4.50 postage if u buy online now that we are top tier, anyone know whether these will be on sale anywhere else, and if so where? makes me sick going into jjb by west quay and seeing newcastle shirts and no saints shirts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 The fact that we've pretty much gone against all club tradition..? So did winning consecutive promotions or wearing the sash for the first time in over a century. It's red and white, it's got a Saints badge...I love it all the more for the fact it creates such interesting conversation on a forum...........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 If we are doing this to reach an 'asian market' then we are well and truly selling our soul. This Asian market theory is absolute tosh! It's a kit for one season only (the last season of the Umbro contract) and probably done because last season's sales were relatively poor because ALL of out fan base has at least one from previous seasons, very similar. Pound to a dollar, we will be back in read and white stripes next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Any idea if the Premier League sleeve patches are available yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 I think it must be a very cultured shirt as its growing on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Any idea if the Premier League sleeve patches are available yet? you have to pay extra for them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 I think it must be a very cultured shirt as its growing on me. Are the pre-printed Michu, Buttner and Butland ones available yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 so, what name and numbers you all getting got Lambert on the sash kit...never got this year as I have a dozen old red and white standard saints shirts but will get this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Are the pre-printed Michu, Buttner and Butland ones available yet?? I'll go down the market on Monday and find out how many do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 you have to pay extra for them now? Always.... Usually about 5 quid or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 So did winning consecutive promotions or wearing the sash for the first time in over a century. It's red and white, it's got a Saints badge...I love it all the more for the fact it creates such interesting conversation on a forum...........! It's barely red and white, which is kind of everyone else's point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Always.... Usually about 5 quid or so. I've got a couple old saints shirts that have them on, maybe i didn't notice the extra cost. tbh i was 15/16 last time i bought a EPL saints shirt and no, they aint advertising them on the online store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 lee on the home kit, lallana on the away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 This Asian market theory is absolute tosh! It's a kit for one season only (the last season of the Umbro contract) and probably done because last season's sales were relatively poor because ALL of out fan base has at least one from previous seasons, very similar. Pound to a dollar, we will be back in read and white stripes next season. Pretty telling that they've put me Lee at the front of various shots, including his famous goal celebration -remind me how many games he's played for us? Of course, that doesn't mean its dictated this season's choice of kits but we're certainly alive to the asian market angle, even if NC and the marketing dept are fooling themselves if they think its make any real difference to sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 The more I see it, the more I like it. I actually get a little kick from the fact it's annoying everyone too - but then I quite liked the Pony "rubgy" shirt from way back, although that's probably just nostalgia. I'm more concerned about the team we're building than the shirt. If we can get some decent performances in then I'm sure this shirt will grow on us. The retro (wide-central-stripe) shirt from the 80s is only so popular because we've associated it with a period of Saints success. I'm sure a similar period of (relative) success will make us like this shirt... Maybe grudgingly :-) Exactly. If the internet had been live in the early 80s, people would have probably moaned about the Air Florida and Rank Xerox kits but instead, they are prized because we had a superb team. Likewise, why is a yellow and blue away kit popular? Because of the FA Cup win of course. Kits, unless they are really vile or notorious (Fiorentina's home kit from the 90s that appeared to have far insignia on it from memory, Arsenal's horrific yellow and green away kit and Chelsea's vile grey and orange number) are defined by the team that wears them and how they fare. The Pony chevron kit was horrible but MLT's heroics saved our pride. Likewise, we could have had an amazing kit in 2004/5 but Davenport, Jakobsson, Van Damme, Nilsson and Bernard would still have been wearing it and we'd still have been deservedly relegated for buying too many poor players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 Pretty telling that they've put me Lee at the front of various shots, including his famous goal celebration -remind me how many games he's played for us? Of course, that doesn't mean its dictated this season's choice of kits but we're certainly alive to the asian market angle, even if NC and the marketing dept are ******** fooling themselves if they think its make any real difference to sales out there. how many has J-Rod played for us..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 serious question here as I don't know how many prem clubs...or even english clubs have this design....? None, but there are only 4 Umbro teams in England now, and it's identical to Sweden's home kit except colours and collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 The one thing i really do admire is the clubs persistence in allowing Year 7 ICT students make our promotional material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 You think a plain red kit with pin stripes is original and imaginative! Blimey. At least in the 80's when we ditched the traditional stripes the kits were a bit different, and they stayed in the Saints colours. Plonking a Saints badge on a Liverpool shirt is just lazy. Probably just the cheapest option available. Relatively speaking, yes it is. There are only so many 'different' things you can do with a football kit. As I've said.before, I can see why some might not like it, but if you think the design process was a quick, lazy half hour meeting then you're wrong, they'd have put loads of thought and time into, particularly the 'concept'. Whether it's any good or not is another matter altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 30 June, 2012 Share Posted 30 June, 2012 so it's £12 to get two numbers and 3 letters, and £4.50 postage if u buy online now that we are top tier, anyone know whether these will be on sale anywhere else, and if so where? makes me sick going into jjb by west quay and seeing newcastle shirts and no saints shirts... Blame the club, they won't let anyone else sell them. JJB and SportsDirect in West Quay, probably £10 for number and name. Also, Prem sleeved patches are £5 there, and you've ALWAYS had to pay extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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