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  1. 1. Do you like the new kit?

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I could not really give a fuk what the new kit looks like.

it will be mostly red, it will probably have an element of white in it....it won't have hoop stripes.

 

there is only so much they can tweak said colours..

 

it will be out this weekend..and will be on sale all year......

 

you know what, there will be those that will stamp their feet, kick off, complain...complain that the design is crap, complain that the material is too figure hugging for their over weight bodies and then complain they can't get the shirt over their fat heads...

 

it is a football top...they will be on sale all year, don't panic if you cannot get what you want (i.e., forecast on the back) at the very second they go on sale.

and don't buy one and moan...as you would have had the choice

as expected

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Meanwhile back at the Cortese Villa... Saturday 8.30am

 

 

Theres is a sheepish knock on the study door

 

NC: Come in

Underling: I bring news sir

NC: Good, how many Season Tickets have we sold now?

Underling: not that sir, of the the reaction to the new shirt?

NC: Why is this news?

Underling: Its not good sir

NC: I repeat , why is this news?

Underling: But..but, sir ... the fans, they dont like it sir?

NC: Mhm... who does not like it?

Underling (Remains quiet)

NC: Come on tell me, or do we need the clamps again?

Underling: ...Its...its... the... members of Saintsweb... and even the Mighty FF has spoken - they hate its sir

NC: (slowly stands, walks towards the window and stares out across the Itchen) You know, for a moment there, I thought we had a problem. I Like this ..ere what's he called... Duncano?

Underling: Duncan, Sir

NC: Yes, Duncan...he knows all of the club's history, and he is what they say here 'socialista'?

Underling: Yes sir, with a passion

NC: ..yet he no like red?

Underling: NO sir, says it goes against tradition?

NC: I see. Jeez Feck, commie bast, no like red... well first time for everythig I guess - could understand if it was Duney or one of the other tory boyz but Duncs....

Underling: Maybe not sir, nearly 50% of the posters, they hate its sir...and...and worse still, someone has taken over Trousers house and ruined his carpet

NC: Trouser? who is this Trousers?

Underling: not sure but he has kind face, but dreadful carpet, but was on side sir

NC: Carpet, WTF has carpet got to do with anything?

Underling: ?

NC: Who else dislikes?

Underling: Does it matter sir?

NC: Does it matter? not really, but we must add them to the list

Underling: The list sir? over a shirt? Is that maybe not a bit extreme?

NC: You are questioning my descison?

Underling: NO sir ...er... of course not...just...well.. just its seems harsh sir

NC: Harsh? You think so? (Laughs) - we are on the verge of greatness, promoted 2 times, with plans in place to become a global force and they whinge about a feckin shirt? and you think its harsh they go on the list?

Underling: ...well when put like that sir... you wish me to prepare the 'enforcer'?

NC: Yes, tell him.... tell him we will need his special talent on this one

Underling: Are you sure about this Barone?

NC: Yes, Its the one thing he is good at... and it always gets results.

Underling: Yes sir... you wish to be informed when he arrives?

NC: Yes...but keep it quiet .

 

 

Underling leaves the office - NC Turns back to his desk and dials a number in Zurich

 

NC: Snr Pizannnini ? Yes, Good, Listen, get me a meeting at Adidas, I think we may have a problem.....

 

 

(Not) to be continued

 

Utter genius, proper lolz.

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Whatever you say about the design (and in truth I quite like it), could you see Manchester Citeh now playing in light-blue and white stripes, or Manchester United playing in red and white stripes? Or even QPR playing in blue and white quarters...

 

 

 

Gosh, if they did wouldn't that be so inspirational/brave/like, amazing for their fans.

 

Its a shame these world leaders of football marketing aren't as cutting edge as we are.

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I think this kit was part of the deal to keep Adkins at SMS for a bit longer and stop his wandering eye in the direction of the Anfield hotseat when it was free a month or so ago.

Mr Cortese has offered him the sweetener of at least the team looking like Liverpool.

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I'm not that fussed or motivated by a meagre football shirt but simply don't like this design. Shape, pattern & texture lacking & not fussed it's solid red for those obsessed with stripes but the style of this red I don't like. Obviously to differ from Sunderland & the like. It's like an old Liverpool kit. I hope we one day have a return to the Rank Xerox kit Keegan wore. Thick white centre stripe, red on the sides. That was awesome!

 

After all that, it's only just a kit. Got bigger things to think about.

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http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/Southampton.htm

 

Can you imagine the uproar on here in 1896 when we went from quarters to stripes?

 

People would have been boycotting the club, throwing back st's and generally getting shifty on web forums left right and centre.

 

 

 

Well done the lamest provaction yet. This isn't 1896.

 

And seriously stop overplaying the negative reaction. Some people don't like it. Get over it.

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I expected a bad reaction from this forum and probably 50% of Saints fans in general, but I didn't expect this.

 

Some of the reactions have been downright pathetic.

 

'This is almost as bad as Cardiff going from red to blue!!' What? We've always played in Red and White.

 

We have a Mainly Red (admittedly) and white kit? We haven't gone from red and white stripes to Green or Blue have we, so it's nowhere near as bad as the Cardiff situation.

 

For the record, I genuinely think if someone tried that at Saints there'd be protests outside the stadium.

 

For me it's nice to have a change, to shake things up a bit and have something a bit different every now and again, not every season, but every 3-5 years have an all red kit or an all white kit or something? Can't see the harm in that myself.

 

It may be 'blasphemous' of me to say this according to some wrist-slitters on this thread, but I get bored with the same old lazy red and white stripes every season. I also get bored with all the people that go 'oh the away shirt has to be yellow!' why, because we won the FA Cup in it in 1976? Like 36 years ago?! 'Oh and if we don't have a yellow away kit we can't sing YELLOWS YELLOWS!!'

 

Just look at some of Sheffield United and Stokes kits in the last 15 years, hardly any variation whatsoever 'but those are their traditional colours!' that's true, but it's still boring as hell as it shows no inspiration.

 

I think what Cortese has done is taken a chance, gone 'we've had red and white stripes now for the past 22 years (apart from 2010-11) and said f**k let's have a change' Maybe he's bored of the traditional red and white stripes too?

 

I've seen numerous threads on the new kits over the last 6 years on this forum and some years people complain because there isn't enough variation. I remember when the 2008-10 shirt came out everyone was excited as it was our first Umbro kit, but then it came out and alot of people on this very forum were like 'oh its just red and white stripes traditional, bit uninspiring and bland, won't be buying' etc. but when the club DOES do something new, something risque, you don't like it?

Cortese has taken a chance. When you take a chance there's always the possibility your decision will backfire. Only having 30% approval rating from a significant sample of your customer base isn't great, but Cortese will measure things by replica sales. I'd imagine there are enough kids / 'blind followers' to give him enough sales for him to deem it a 'success", though I it wouldn't surprise me to see sales way down on the last two kits, despite being in the highest league now.

 

Have slept on it and for me it is still boring, bland and unimaginative - and lacks anything that says "Saints" to me. A shame, but we only have to put up with it for one year hopefully.

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Well done the lamest provaction yet. This isn't 1896.

 

And seriously stop overplaying the negative reaction. Some people don't like it. Get over it.

 

You're right.

 

It's not 1896, its 2012.

 

And were all (on the whole) grown adults with far more important things going on in their lives that to b*tch and moan about a football shirt.

 

If you haven't, then life really is dull.

 

Some people DO like it. Get over it.

 

Its here to stay. Get over it.

 

What a bunch of wet pussies we have

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I don't see how thinking the kit is sh!te effects what happens next season.

 

I don't have a problem with people posting they think it's ****e. I have a problem with some people's reactions.

 

Firstly there's the 'we are Southampton, we are red and white stripes' brigade. Yeah I know that for the majority of our history that's what we've worn, but as I said earlier we weren't red and white stripes for the whole of the 1980's. Those who claim the Xerox/Air Florida kit was essentially stripes are talking out of their arse. One white stripe up the middle of the shirt doesn't make a shirt striped. The stripes on the Hummel one were tiny and only over one half of the shirt and one sleeve. The amount of white is the issue in this case, not the striping.

 

Secondly there are those who claim they are embarrassed by the kit, especially as we are now we are back in the prem. If you are embarrassed what difference does it make what bloody division we're in? I'm not embarrassed by the team or the club in it's current guise. Look what they've achieved in the last three seasons. I was embarrassed when the last owners were in charge and it looked like we were going out of existence. Embarrassing would be getting relegated again with a record low points tally and being knocked out of both cups by pompey, not the team wearing a kit I don't like.

 

I do think that Cortese could communicate with the fans more over reasoning for some of his decisions. I do think that we'll get some stick from other fans this season, particularly those of Liverpool and ManU. But, if the team performs in a way that makes me proud I won't give two hoots about the rest.

 

I'm more disappointed that Adkin's hope that he'd have one or two new faces in before pre-season started hasn't come off.

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It's fun reading this thread.

 

The last time we went away from tradition the shirt became one of our greatest ever in terms of sales and it was awesome to see so many at SMS that year.

 

Nobody started WWIII over the fact that we played in white shorts that year as well.

 

Will this be as successful as the Sash. No of course not. But one small part of that "failure" will be down to the sponsor logo. It looks grim.

 

Will I buy one for me & FMDP? Yes. I need something to wear down the pub to watch the games and I don't want to wear my Sash shirt to death as it is a classic and I want to keep it for many years to come.

 

For those taking this fashion disaster so much more seriously than Banking Fraud, The Eurozone Crisis and the outlook for Employment in the world, then this may help,

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mindfulness-approach/201106/online-counseling-anxiety-depression

 

I don't like it. I didn't like the Pony kit, was not a fan of the Xerox kit, but I notice the club has managed to (just about) keep going since those years and it will be going again next season as well.

 

You know what? I don't give a flying frick what the shirt looks like next season. Right now all I am worried about is how the team play while wearing it.

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This thread just sums up Saintsweb.

overeacting just because of a difference of opinion.

its a piece of clothing ffs.

if you like it,buy it,if you don't like it,don't buy it.

we have not worn stripes on occasions....so what.

lets hope we stay up eh! That is what is important,not being fashion gurus.

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Horrid, uninspiring, awful - sure there's a miniscule stripe but the effect looking from the terraces will be all red.

I like tradition, and a SFC tradition is the stripes.

 

I dare say you still watch home games from Milton Road, must be a great view down there.

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Rofl thread. Embarrassing reactions. It's a kit. I'm far more grateful we have a club to support in the Premier League. Have some perspective.

 

See this is the kind of post that really annoys me!

 

Yes, Markus came in and purchased our club, yes we've had a great 3 years, Wembley was great and the 2 promotions have been awesome BUT, how long do we have to be totally indebted before we can dare critise Corttesse?

If anyone dares to question :-

 

Ban of photographers

Ban the echo

Ban Illingssorth

Scrap installment plan

Scrap visually impared freebies

Design of Kit

Price of tickets

 

We all ways get the same "just be happy we've got a club" bull!

 

Ps. Not a fan of the kit, I don't buy them anyway so doesn't really affect me but the general reaction up the pub last night was negative!!

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I have no problem with a change in style as long as the traditional red/white colour scheme is kept to in some way. Apart from the sash shirt which was my favourite football shirt of all time I haven't liked a home shirt since 1985. There's only so much you can do with stripes and they just never look "class" whatever you do with them. I quite simply just don't like the shirt, for no other reason than I simply don't like it. As for people who say they will buy it anyway (to wear, not talking collectors) even though they don't like it , FFS get a life and a mind of your own.

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Not being a native of Southampton, where can I get my shirt printed on Sunday as the Megastore won't be open (how stupid is that?).

 

I'm guessing JJB, SportsDirect in West Quay?

 

Actually, the club has thought of this, they're setting up a shirt printing area near M&S in West Quay just so people don't take their shirt printing needs elsewhere. It remains to be seen if they're still going to charge £12 when JJB and Sports direct both do it for a tenner.

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See this is the kind of post that really annoys me!

 

Yes, Markus came in and purchased our club, yes we've had a great 3 years, Wembley was great and the 2 promotions have been awesome BUT, how long do we have to be totally indebted before we can dare critise Corttesse?

If anyone dares to question :-

 

Ban of photographers

Ban the echo

Ban Illingssorth

Scrap installment plan

Scrap visually impared freebies

Design of Kit

Price of tickets

 

We all ways get the same "just be happy we've got a club" bull!

 

Ps. Not a fan of the kit, I don't buy them anyway so doesn't really affect me but the general reaction up the pub last night was negative!!

 

Weren't you the chief architect of the "duck off Lowe" flyby? Still chomping at the bit to be that oh so special fan on the board?

 

Maybe its time for another protest at this outrage.

 

 

It's a kit. A football kit. Why are grown men wetting the bed over this...?

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Finding it very strange that people saying the sash kit was a massive seller is justification for changing the stripes all the time - the main selling point of that was that it was a 125th Anniversary shirt (not a Centenary...) and had links to the kit from 125 years before. It had justification, history and legitimacy. It was also popular because it was a ONE-OFF change from stripes. Repeating that experiment without any rationale other than "we think it will sell more than stripes because people already have stripes" is fundamentally flawed, and I'm pretty sure sales figures will reflect that.

 

Almost certain that the away will outsell the home.

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Weren't you the chief architect of the "duck off Lowe" flyby? Still chomping at the bit to be that oh so special fan on the board?

 

Maybe its time for another protest at this outrage.

 

 

It's a kit. A football kit. Why are grown men wetting the bed over this...?

It's a discussion about the Saints' football kit on a thread about the football kit in a forum about Saints, why is it so difficult to understand that people will have opinions and want to express them here?

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without being pedantic, someone needs to tell them that the kit still is red and white stripes...

 

There's no way of making that point without being pedantic, but having just read their thread there are about 100 other things they need picking up on before that anyway - starting with the use of the "word" "anarl".

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Almost certain that the away will outsell the home.

I very doubt that. The majority of Saints fans will wish to have the home kit when we are at SMS. Not all are the style icons that the intelligentsia are on here
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You're right.

 

It's not 1896, its 2012.

 

And were all (on the whole) grown adults with far more important things going on in their lives that to b*tch and moan about a football shirt.

 

If you haven't, then life really is dull.

 

Some people DO like it. Get over it.

 

Its here to stay. Get over it.

 

What a bunch of wet pussies we have

 

Hilarious.

 

People like you are getting far more agitated about those people not liking it than people who don't like the shirt.

 

Calm down you nutcase.

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Weren't you the chief architect of the "duck off Lowe" flyby? Still chomping at the bit to be that oh so special fan on the board?

 

Maybe its time for another protest at this outrage.

 

 

It's a kit. A football kit. Why are grown men wetting the bed over this...?

 

Mr. Lungs

 

Please re-read post, please!

 

Nowhere have I called for protest, just simply said that surely as a consumer we can complain about a product, is that not every consumers right?

 

As I said in my post (please re-read) I don't buy the kits so doesn't personally affect me so this grown man will not be wetting himself!

 

Finally, I was indeed instrumental, and very proud to have been part of the flyby, but had nothing to do with "duck off" and difinately had nothing to do with any super fan on the board! John, jake & myself just felt passionately that change was needed at our club, so unlike a lot of posters on here put our head above the parapet. We didn't sit behind a computer anonymously attacking people.

 

Whatever you or anyone says, we said we'd do a flyby, many said we couldn't, when it was called off because of the weather the same posters mocked but, it did fly & we did what we said we would!!

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It's fun reading this thread.

 

The last time we went away from tradition the shirt became one of our greatest ever in terms of sales and it was awesome to see so many at SMS that year.

 

Nobody started WWIII over the fact that we played in white shorts that year as well.

 

Will this be as successful as the Sash. No of course not. But one small part of that "failure" will be down to the sponsor logo. It looks grim.

 

Will I buy one for me & FMDP? Yes. I need something to wear down the pub to watch the games and I don't want to wear my Sash shirt to death as it is a classic and I want to keep it for many years to come.

 

For those taking this fashion disaster so much more seriously than Banking Fraud, The Eurozone Crisis and the outlook for Employment in the world, then this may help,

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mindfulness-approach/201106/online-counseling-anxiety-depression

 

I don't like it. I didn't like the Pony kit, was not a fan of the Xerox kit, but I notice the club has managed to (just about) keep going since those years and it will be going again next season as well.

 

You know what? I don't give a flying frick what the shirt looks like next season. Right now all I am worried about is how the team play while wearing it.

Odd that anyone saying they don't like the kit (the majority btw) are lampooned as manic depressives, or derided as not having things in perspective.

 

The kit won't bring down Europe, it won't make me default on my mortgage, It probably won't even bother me that much once I have my initial reaction 'out of my system'.

 

But as a Sints fan, looking forward to our first season back in the Premier League, it is disappointing, very disappointing, to go into it wearing what is effectively a Liverpool kit. Just a shame, and a missed opportunity to herald our return to the top flight in a positive 'Saints-like' way.

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I very doubt that. The majority of Saints fans will wish to have the home kit when we are at SMS. Not all are the style icons that the intelligentsia are on here

 

We shall see. All of the feedback I've seen so far is people saying they don't like the home kit but do like the away one - plus Saints have worn predominantly white for the last 3 years.

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It seems to me that the players aren't overstruck on the kit - see Sharpedo's tweet etc - I therefore have revised my season predictions downward to relegation scrap and possible relegation. If the players where a kit they love (ala last season's home and away) then they feel more confident and play better. If they play a strip that they feel is awful, they will play worse. Which means our home form, which is crucial in the premier, is going to be at least slightly affected by this travesty of a kit. I think it will the worst kit in the premier, and why the hell is it all red. FFS.

 

The shirt itself is okay, but the colour makes in very hard to wear with anything other than white/black shorts and sock - which would be man utd. The away kit isn't bad. But in no way are either of these kits a touch on last years home or away. They were ****ing gorgeous and were the best kits we have had in a long long long time. We have gone from that to something which makes me turn my head in embarrassment. And please, fire the moron who thought that conceptually a red kit and a white kit was a clever idea - how much did he get paid for that dip**** brainstorm.

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I've never been particularly precious about the stripes. My favourite kits are some of those that are a bit different. Loved the kits from 1980-1987. Not a massive fan of the Dimplex kit and the 87-89 kit is the sort of thing you'd use to scare the kids into tidying their bedrooms.

 

This one? It's different from the stripes, sure. I doesn't look anywhere near as bad as our worst kits. My biggest problem is that it isn't the 1980s kit, but that's because I'm being selfish and want something of nostalgic value. The flip-side of that is current youngsters might have a kit that resonates with them in 20 or so years.

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