gazzzza Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I heard were up for sale for £85million, is this true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Silly season has arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Most clubs would be up for sale for the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Uh oh!!! It's begun!! Where did you hear this "news"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Anything is possible but wheres the proof or who started the rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WokingSaint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 It is true we were up for sale - but that was 3 years ago! I do not believe we're up for sale now although everything has a price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzzza Posted 29 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 April, 2012 well markus is/was a business man who didn't buy sfc because he loves southampton, its a business investment that should turn a good profit if all goes well (which it has) so you could understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 and it begins.. adkins off, club up for sale its going to be a long summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 The last rumours from months ago had it at 85M. That was well before we were a Prem club again.....I'm guessing it's the same old rumour revisited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Every club is up for sale but it is about how much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I heard Lambert is off because we can't guarantee him Premier League football. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Now is probably the optimum time to sell in terms of making a return on the investment, so if it is going to happen at all, it'll happen soon. As I've said before, I would love the Liebherrs to stay. Can't really argue with the stewardship of the club so far. It's a sell or invest decision, and if the plan is to sell - then I'll imagine they'll want to do that before splurging out on signings for the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Yep, the family thought they would go spunk £15 million on the training ground even though they are selling up. This place is so moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 £85 milion?? Was £30m two weeks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Is that money really spunked tho'? It's an investment that'll not only provide revenue from player sales (look no further than Oxlade-Chamberlain) , but is also added to the value of the club. If you did major improvement work on your home, you'd factor the benefits those improvements bring into any selling price you conjured. Same thing applies here. Spending money on training facilities does not preclude the sale of the club. In fact, it just makes the club more desirable for prospective purchasers. Now perhaps that's moronic thinking, but a lot of the opinions on the issue of club sale boil down to "it's impossible because I don't want it to happen". That's not realistic, particularly when we've just hit the big time. Anyone thinking about buying a Premiership club will be taking a long hard look at us right now. As others have said, it's just a question of how big the number is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I suppose Markus's daughter was at the game yesterday to underline the families lack of interest and to plant a "For Sale" sign outside the ground was she ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 £85 milion?? Was £30m two weeks back That's inflation for you. This economy eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 well markus is/was a business man who didn't buy sfc because he loves southampton, its a business investment that should turn a good profit if all goes well (which it has) so you could understand it. You don't buy football clubs to make money - unless you are a Glazier and they loaded the risk back onto the football club. This rumour was around before without a shred of evidence to support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I suppose Markus's daughter was at the game yesterday to underline the families lack of interest and to plant a "For Sale" sign outside the ground was she ? I'm not saying that the owners are going to sell, just that it is the ideal time to do so if those are their intentions. The Liebherrs have been the best owners we've had. I hope that you're right and that Markus's daughter was there to foster closer associations with the club. Any Saints fan who has seen the success achieved under their stewardship would rightfully want them to stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzzza Posted 29 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Every club is up for sale but it is about how much you're right, and i've got 50p for poopey, just so i can torch knotarf krap:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiorob Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 IF the Liebherrs were going to sell, now would seem the ideal time. A club guaranteed at least a season of Prem football is a tempting proposition but the value could drop if we start next season poorly. Let's not forget that our club was Markus' investment and although his family have maintained the club in his name, they may see this as realising his ambition and decide the time is right to let someone else take the reins. All conjecture, and note the big IF at the beginning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 is the original poster neil allen in disguise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 We are in pretty good shape, but would prefer to carry on business as normal. If they are in it for the money, then they will look for a buyer. I really do think they may have the bug now and want to carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 That's inflation for you. This economy eh? Who would buy us for £85m when they could buy 17 pompeys for same price???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Funny how these rumours always coincide with something positive happening to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 We're always open to offers, everybody is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 We are in pretty good shape, but would prefer to carry on business as normal. If they are in it for the money, then they will look for a buyer. I really do think they may have the bug now and want to carry on. Hope you're right on this one. The owners have got a really positive reputation amongst the fans, and well, we're in the top league now. Who wouldn't be excited at owning a Premiership club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I heard were up for sale for £85million, is this true ? Why would anyone in their right mind want to buy us for £85M when for 50 odd million you could buy a club down the road with state of the art facilities, playing in the greatest league 1in the world, with the bestest fans in the world, all 15K of them better than those 60K at the Nou Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Is that money really spunked tho'? It's an investment that'll not only provide revenue from player sales (look no further than Oxlade-Chamberlain) , but is also added to the value of the club. If you did major improvement work on your home, you'd factor the benefits those improvements bring into any selling price you conjured. Same thing applies here. Spending money on training facilities does not preclude the sale of the club. In fact, it just makes the club more desirable for prospective purchasers. Now perhaps that's moronic thinking, but a lot of the opinions on the issue of club sale boil down to "it's impossible because I don't want it to happen". That's not realistic, particularly when we've just hit the big time. Anyone thinking about buying a Premiership club will be taking a long hard look at us right now. As others have said, it's just a question of how big the number is. In any normal business, spending a wedge on a project that does not have a predictable or reliable revenue return would add no value whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 In any normal business, spending a wedge on a project that does not have a predictable or reliable revenue return would add no value whatsoever. Ah, c'mon - Oxlade-Chamberlain's transfer alone almost covered the cost of those facilities. The club has long had a reputation for producing some of the game's brightest prospects. Is such income guaranteed? Of course not, but based on our track record of producing Premiership players - it seems like a sensible investment. You're kinda making out like the club is p*ssing its money away. That's not the case at all. The investment in the training facilities would be factored in the asking price of any sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 I reckOn we were deafo valued a whole ago. Normal practice flowing a valuation of an estate. They will now start seeing the real reward. The resurgance of a community. I am not worried but would not be surprised if we've had approaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Yes, I saw the Hugh Hickman sign being put up today outside St.Marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Any decent sized yachts seen in the Solent recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 April, 2012 Share Posted 29 April, 2012 Ah, c'mon - Oxlade-Chamberlain's transfer alone almost covered the cost of those facilities. The club has long had a reputation for producing some of the game's brightest prospects. Is such income guaranteed? Of course not, but based on our track record of producing Premiership players - it seems like a sensible investment. You're kinda making out like the club is p*ssing its money away. That's not the case at all. The investment in the training facilities would be factored in the asking price of any sale. I'm talking about how it works in the business world. Ultimately the club is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it but in the real world away from football, Companies are valued based upon an assessment of actual/predicted revenues and profits. As you pointed out we've already been able to sell players for mega bucks before the new investment but what is the expected increase in revenue and profits directly related to this investment? I'd imagine this is very hard to judge and as such, in the normal business world, it wouldn't add much to the Company value. This being the world of football who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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