Bearsy Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Yeah that's true, if he goes there I'd definitely expect him to get more goals than Rodriguez next season. They'll only regret it I spose if they happen to get relegated anyway, then they'll be a bit ****ed off that they've got nothing to show for their moneys!
Matthew Le God Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 The sad fact of football is that you don't even need an asset for your millions, just another ticket for the theatre of the next season. I take your point though. Their millions guarantee goals in the prem provided he stays fit though.. Ours on Rodriguez dont. Not really a guarantee of goals. For a start, Carroll only scored 4 Premier League goals last season.
Saint Garrett Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Not really a guarantee of goals. For a start, Carroll only scored 4 Premier League goals last season. If WHU play Carrol in every game, he'll get enough deliverys into the box to get his head on. He's awful with his feet and he is very predictable, but he will still get goals from free kicks/corners/long balls into the box which WHU will look to do at every opportunity.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Another bit of interesting WHam transfer talk, Alan Nixon seems to think their deal to sign Ramis is going to collapse. They are signing the very average James Collins from Villa instead.
Minty Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 (edited) I don't think anyone said anything that bad. It's not easy to point out an invalid opinion without causing a little offence. If he'd seen the keeper play plenty of times and said 'I don't rate him' or 'I think he's really good', I'm sure no-one would mind, then any opinion is his own. But the comments after a short appearance in one friendly isn't opinion, it's reactionary drivel. You can only play the ball if there is a ball. It was reactionary, I agree, but it was still an opinion... However causing offence whilst disagreeing with an opinion is entirely reliant on two things: 1 - the way in which the person takes the comments, and 2 (obviously) the way in which the reply is worded. I would've said something like: 'I'm sorry, but I really cannot see how you can come to that opinion based on just a short period of football. All goalkeepers have made mistakes in their career, some more than others, and especially at the younger end of their career. It would be impossible to recruit a keeper who had not, and would never, make a mistake, and in this particular instance, I would suggest a miskick was far less of a mistake than letting the ball through hands or legs directly leading to a goal. Judging any player on just 45 minutes is pretty silly IMO.' If that causes offence, then I would suggest that person shouldn't come on to a forum if they can't even handle a reasonable reply. Calling someone a pillock is quite obviously going to cause offence to some people. Edited 30 July, 2012 by Minty
Bearsy Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Minty i admire your concilliatory manner or whatever, but the original opinion that dude expressed writing off G-Nigga cos he made a bad kick was pretty offensive too innit!
Minty Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Minty i admire your concilliatory manner or whatever, but the original opinion that dude expressed writing off G-Nigga cos he made a bad kick was pretty offensive too innit! Offensive in that most people disagree with it(including me)? That's not really 'offensive' IMO. Liking the use of 'innit' too... you noticed my post on the Muppet Show thread obviously. ;-)
Bearsy Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 Offensive in that most people disagree with it(including me)? That's not really 'offensive' IMO. Liking the use of 'innit' too... you noticed my post on the Muppet Show thread obviously. ;-) Nah I'm sticking with my view that hating on G-Nigga for one bad kick is the same as hating on a poster for one dumb comment. How offended you is depend on who's side ur on I spose. And yeah I added the bad grammars just for you normally I'm saintswebs greatest exponent of the olde Queen's English! I'm renowned for my good grammars!
supersonic Posted 30 July, 2012 Posted 30 July, 2012 I've read in a couple of places that Thorgan Hazard may be headed to us on loan. Didn't get many games last season, I've no idea how good he is. Cannot happen. End of that made up rumour
St.Patrik Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Watford knows how to shop - 7 players signed in one day - http://www.watfordfc.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10400~2865682,00.html
JoeShmoe Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 WHU are trying to break the bank to get these marquee signings and haven't got anyone. No one half decent wants to go there and play Allardyces style of football, they're in a dream world And whatever happened to their academy, have they let it rot? Used to bring through some great youngsters
Wade Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7951513/West-Ham-deny-Carroll-deal There you go. Another load of rubbish. There is a whole gossip industry now. Men are turning into fishwives.
SuperSAINT Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 (Has been mentioned on here before) According to reports in Turkish newspaper Sabah, Fenerbache are now the favourites to sign Wolfsburg defender Simon Kjaer. The Denmark international has not travelled with Wolfsburg on a pre-season trip to China and has also been linked with Lille and Udinese after spending last term on loan at Roma.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Nixon on twitter said saints have enquired about laods of players but not put many bids in as eyt while we assess options. Good start to the window with 4 good signigns but need to make another push now for another 3.
saint lard Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 I would rather have Berbatov for £5m than Carroll.
Saint Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Berbatov is class. He'll be a bargain for someone this summer, his touch is incredible.
Flyer Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Berbatov is class. He'll be a bargain for someone this summer, his touch is incredible. Rumours are that hes going to QPR. http://www.click-manchester.com/sport/manchester-united/1217169-qpr-target-manchester-united-ace-berbatov.html?
Saint Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Wouldnt surprise me QPR buying someone else on horrendous wages...Portsmouth thought this was a good idea a few years ago...
St.Patrik Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 So - does Celtic have any striker that we are interested in? Fourth Official @FourthOfficial_ Celtic have signed Norwich's James Vaughan on loan for the season
Saint Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Striker isn't a position we need to strengthen...we need defenders!!
SNSUN Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Wouldnt surprise me QPR buying someone else on horrendous wages...Portsmouth thought this was a good idea a few years ago... QPR's signings would underwhelm me if I were a Ranger's fan. Aging nomads looking for a last pay day, Fabio, who's proven to be not as good as his twin, and Junior Hoilett who's a good signing but still potential. Park is probably the signing I'd have been happiest with, and it's yet to be proven how good he is in a team that isn't Man Utd! Reading fans are excited with their signings too. Not sure I'd be.
SNSUN Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Striker isn't a position we need to strengthen...we need defenders!! Wouldn't hurt to bring another one in for a testing first season. We don't know the extent of Lee's injury. Sharp, Lambert and JRod alone all season would be pushing it. If we can afford a striker as well as three defenders, a keeper and a right winger, it wouldn't hurt to look if the right target became available. (I do however think we'll stick with what we have until at least January.)
Matthew Le God Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 We don't know the extent of Lee's injury. Adkins has said he'll be back towards the end of pre-season. He is already doing some training with the squad.
Saint Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 I can't see us bringing in another striker when we have Lambert, J-Rod, Sharp, Lee, and then Lallana, Guly, De Ridder who can also do a job there. Much more likely to bring in a pacy wide man who can play up front as well.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 I can't see us bringing in another striker when we have Lambert, J-Rod, Sharp, Lee, and then Lallana, Guly, De Ridder who can also do a job there. Much more likely to bring in a pacy wide man who can play up front as well. This. Can see why we were keen on Lens as he can do exactly that. Hopefully its a good sign that things have gone quiet. I could see de Ridder going out on a short loan if we did bring in a wide player. Seem like he just needs a run of starts to get some rhythm.
SNSUN Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Adkins has said he'll be back towards the end of pre-season. He is already doing some training with the squad. ... as long as it's not niggling or repetetive, that's good news. Still, if we did sign, say, Gary Hooper now, I wouldn't go round complaining we didn't need another striker.
Saint Charlie Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Wouldn't do any harm to bring in a promising young striker as this seems to be an area that isnt well covered within the development squad. There is only Hoskins and I don't think he is quite at the level needed.
Saint Garrett Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 John Guidetti has been linked with some other lower prem teams today on a loan move. CHDAJFU?
Saint Charlie Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 John Guidetti has been linked with some other lower prem teams today on a loan move. CHDAJFU? No - he will only move to be a 100% starter.
beavis17 Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 John Guidetti has been linked with some other lower prem teams today on a loan move. CHDAJFU? Javier Hernandez is also being linked with a loan move to Sunderland and QPR...
Saint Charlie Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Javier Hernandez is also being linked with a loan move to Sunderland and QPR... Surely not?
max_saints Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Javier Hernandez is also being linked with a loan move to Sunderland and QPR... highly doubt so... http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1128562/sir-alex-ferguson-tips-chicharito-to-have-'top-season'?cc=4716
sentry Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Depends how you're playing. They're the exact opposite. One all technique, bit lazy, creative, the other a big, strong but extremely limited technically lacking try hard. For the record I think both are generalisations. Berbatov is not at all lazy, his last proper season at Man U before Ferg dumped him he was working his socks off. Also Carroll is good technically, good heading/touch/control but I think his decision making lets down his play.
saint_ben Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Daily star are reporting that saints hae signed everton keeper adam davies. Fair to say i havent a clue who he is.
Matthew Le God Posted 31 July, 2012 Posted 31 July, 2012 Daily star are reporting that saints hae signed everton keeper adam davies. Fair to say i havent a clue who he is. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39018-Under-21-s-v-Winchester&highlight=adam+davies Your time will come. Indeed it has.
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Daily star are reporting that saints hae signed everton keeper adam davies. Fair to say i havent a clue who he is. Says he was o trial with us: http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Cheltenham-Town-video-Keeper-Davies-plays-Robins/story-16584953-detail/story.html
St.Patrik Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 (edited) So August 1st today - correct me if I´m wrong but not all players with outgoing contracts got their last paycheck then. So hopefully some transfer activity happening now - if we enter the market of free players of course? Or was this the way of the dark lork mr.Lowe? Come on now - we need another defender - NOW ! Edited 1 August, 2012 by St.Patrik
Saint Garrett Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Certainly starting to look a bit desparate as its 18 days to the new season and we still have Fonte and Jos as first choice, with Seaborne first backup. Have no doubt we'll bring in a CB but they need to get used to how we play. Hopefully this week
Appy Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Certainly starting to look a bit desparate as its 18 days to the new season and we still have Fonte and Jos as first choice, with Seaborne first backup. Have no doubt we'll bring in a CB but they need to get used to how we play. Hopefully this week I have to agree, it is imperative we get 1 or 2 CBs in this week or at least early next week, with the City game being just over a fortnight away. The time to gel in the Bristol City and Udinese friendlies will be key.
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 I have to agree, it is imperative we get 1 or 2 CBs in this week or at least early next week, with the City game being just over a fortnight away. The time to gel in the Bristol City and Udinese friendlies will be key. Its really important. I'm starting to worry a bit because we are desperately weak at cb.
St.Patrik Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 So whats the scenario then? A= Buttner, Lens, Olsson, Biyik , Akyal - will some of these sign? B= Some totally out of the blue signing - that some will like some not? C= Non of the above - we wait until Jan before we sign more players?
Suhari Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 So whats the scenario then? A= Buttner, Lens, Olsson, Biyik , Akyal - will some of these sign? B= Some totally out of the blue signing - that some will like some not? C= Non of the above - we wait until Jan before we sign more players? Strangely I woke up this morning to the thought that Buttner will sign today; I don't normally think about footballers in my waking moments. My pillow must be itk. Reckon we'll see a CB this week - but probably one that doesn't excite us: a Jos type signing. Danns?
del boy Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 So whats the scenario then? A= Buttner, Lens, Olsson, Biyik , Akyal - will some of these sign? B= Some totally out of the blue signing - that some will like some not? C= Non of the above - we wait until Jan before we sign more players? I would like (not sure if I expect), an experienced CB - maybe premier league experience or African international, and a very big money, eye wateringly impressive RM "marquee" signing. Oh well, dream on, COYR
Saint Garrett Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 I still think we'll see atleast 1 more in before City, and then maybe 1/2 more in before the window shuts. Still think we're a couple of CB's short and need a RM.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Massively still need as a minimum one quality CB (better than either Jose or Jos) and a wide player who is a real threat to the opposition. Reckon we have spend circa 10-11m so far and need to spend that again on the above with maybe another CB too. Next two transfers in 9excluding a dev squad keeper) will decide our fate IMO.
Saint Charlie Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Massively still need as a minimum one quality CB (better than either Jose or Jos) and a wide player who is a real threat to the opposition. Reckon we have spend circa 10-11m so far and need to spend that again on the above with maybe another CB too. Next two transfers in 9excluding a dev squad keeper) will decide our fate IMO.
Gingeletiss Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Matthew Le God please please please keep posting on here. Most normal people are more than happy with your missives...... I do wish the trolls would go elsewhere...oh and don't start arguing with me Like ^
Gingeletiss Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 Matthew Le God please please please keep posting on here. Most normal people are more than happy with your missives...... I do wish the trolls would go elsewhere...oh and don't start arguing with me Like ^
Nexstar Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 I will be quite worried if we don't have a CB in by the end of the week. Not got a problem with us bring a load of new players in, provided it's done with plenty of time before the season starts.
Nexstar Posted 1 August, 2012 Posted 1 August, 2012 I will be quite worried if we don't have a CB in by the end of the week. Not got a problem with us bring a load of new players in, provided it's done with plenty of time before the season starts.
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