Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Rubbish. There was a load of information on fox, cork, fonte, Dickson and Jaidi to name a few. Even Lee was known about before he signed. To suggest we never sign players we are linked with is just silly. this is indeed true....we knew we were after sharp about 6 months before he signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 If a player has both lightening pace and a decent final ball then they'll be playing Champions league football. phillips, ince, moses..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Rubbish. There was a load of information on fox, cork, fonte, Dickson and Jaidi to name a few. Even Lee was known about before he signed. To suggest we never sign players we are linked with is just silly. In league 1 we signed players out of the blue, but this was because the media didn't really care about us so didn't bother to unearth rumours. Now we're in the premier league it will be near on impossible to keep any interest quiet. One party will leak it at some stage and as we're a premier league club the media will take an interest. We are probably genuinely interested in Jarvis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Jarvis has played well both wings. I'm sure he could play opposite to Lallana or instead of him, or with Lallana central. We need a left footed wide player anyway. I think Jarvis would be perfect for providing crosses for Rickie. Exciting times. Problem is, if we signed a quality young English winger with premier league experience, a record breaking fee and within weeks of the season ending, what on earth would people moan about? Jarvis is naturally right footed, but is comfortable with both feet - this is from someone I know who has known Matt since he was 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Jarvis is naturally right footed, but is comfortable with both feet - this is from someone I know who has known Matt since he was 3. Chop chop then home boy get on the blower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Just been on Wave 105 that we are emerging as one of a number of clubs looking to sign Zak Whitbread from Norwich on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Chop chop then home boy get on the blower. I tried! My colleague said he's unlikely to hear anything as Matt keeps things very quiet until there done and dusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Jarvis is naturally right footed, but is comfortable with both feet - this is from someone I know who has known Matt since he was 3. I remember reading that a Saints fan on Twitter was his cousin. He told me about 2 years ago. Matt has a fair few family members down this way and his girlfriend is local too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Just been on Wave 105 that we are emerging as one of a number of clubs looking to sign Zak Whitbread from Norwich on a free. Sincerely if he isn't good enough for Norwich then he probably isn't good enough for us. We are targetting Top 10 apparently, won't get there with Zak Whitbread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Sincerely if he isn't good enough for Norwich then he probably isn't good enough for us. We are targetting Top 10 apparently, won't get there with Zak Whitbread. To be fair, he's played a fair bit for Norwich this year and hasn't done a great deal wrong. Would be a decent squad addition....but as with Zat Knight, he wouldn't improve us in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11688/7726950/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11688/7726950/ We need a new thread for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 To be fair, he's played a fair bit for Norwich this year and hasn't done a great deal wrong. Would be a decent squad addition....but as with Zat Knight, he wouldn't improve us in anyway. Totally agree. Considering that Jaidi is retiring, thats one CB we need and not sure if Seaborne can make step up so Whitbread would become the replacement for Seaborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Swansea have an initial bid to sign on-loan Gylfi Sigurdsson on a permanent deal rejected by Hoffenheim, BBC Sport Wales understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Reading mate is convinced they are set to beat Newcastle to Butterfield according to 'club sources'. My god I remember how annoying transfer windows are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Swansea have an initial bid to sign on-loan Gylfi Sigurdsson on a permanent deal rejected by Hoffenheim, BBC Sport Wales understands. Fair play to Swansea for having a go. He'll surely end up at a top 8 prem side won't he? He's been quality since he's been back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 and completely change the way we play..? Yes, we can still improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Yes, we can still improve. to do that, we may not get goals else where...hardly short of goals are we this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 to do that, we may not get goals else where...hardly short of goals are we this season no but we finished second in the second tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 no but we finished second in the second tier. I know...brilliant isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Yes, we can still improve. Improve what ? Why does everyone think teams can only play a standard 442 ? We dont Get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 I know...brilliant isn't it Improve what ? Why does everyone think teams can only play a standard 442 ? We don’t Get over it Wow. So you think we are all set to survive in the EPL because we finished 2nd in the second tier? Just like to point you towards QPR pal. SS, please show me where I mentioned 4-4-2? Also, a box to box midfielder is mainly used in 4-3-3 not just 4-4-2 so I suggest you get off Football Manager. Two mongs, who are insinuating that we don’t need to have alternative's in the PL, we haven’t got a pacey winger, so I imagine it would not be beneficial to us to add a pacey winger to our squad? Brilliant, I won’t get these two minutes I've spent replying to you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 We have a pacey winger, not that we use one TBH niether is he any good. We play a compact 4222 formation, sometimes more like a 41212 but nevertheless very fluid, we gain most of our width from our full backs and attempt to gain control in the middle of the park. So what would a box to box midfielder actually do ? That said Cork or chappers could possibly do this role. Why does everyone bang on about a goalscoring midfielder aswell ? Guly and lallana both filled in with that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Improve what ? Why does everyone think teams can only play a standard 442 ? We dont Get over it We have a pacey winger, not that we use one TBH niether is he any good. We play a compact 4222 formation, sometimes more like a 41212 but nevertheless very fluid, we gain most of our width from our full backs and attempt to gain control in the middle of the park. So what would a box to box midfielder actually do ? That said Cork or chappers could possibly do this role.Why does everyone bang on about a goalscoring midfielder aswell ? Guly and lallana both filled in with that role There he be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Wow. So you think we are all set to survive in the EPL because we finished 2nd in the second tier? Just like to point you towards QPR pal. SS, please show me where I mentioned 4-4-2? Also, a box to box midfielder is mainly used in 4-3-3 not just 4-4-2 so I suggest you get off Football Manager. Two mongs, who are insinuating that we don’t need to have alternative's in the PL, we haven’t got a pacey winger, so I imagine it would not be beneficial to us to add a pacey winger to our squad? Brilliant, I won’t get these two minutes I've spent replying to you back. Even on FM, 442 doesn't get you above mid-table in the PL and you get royally shafted by the good teams. I'm also prone to quitting the game and restarting if I don't like the result. Currently I have a high-flying PL team with an average age of about 23 and no wages above £50k. It's clearly a long way from reality although elements of logic persist. I think we'll need to move away from a classic 442 to do more than battle for survival each season. Wingers with pace, ability and flair tend not to be great defensively and we need to provide defensive support to make the most of players like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 There he be. Not even sure that even makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Not even sure that even makes sense It be pirate talk, so it be. Monk be a pirate I'll wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 If no one else is gonna mention him (and even if they have) - Michael Owen. And no, I don't really want him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Watching the Bolton game tonight and what about Chris Eagles anybody? Pace, trickery, good cross and shot. RM just what we need and with Bolton going down... I had the same thought watching that game. Count me in as an Eagles supporter. (not Palace, of course). Chris Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 May, 2012 Share Posted 3 May, 2012 Prefer the look of Mark Davies, he's looked class from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Liam Trotter would be a quality signing imo, bang Millwall £2m for him and we've got a big lad in midfield who's good on the ball, a good passer, an aerial threat and can put in a good tackle. Can play CB if need be as well. Would be a very useful player to have in the squad should we need to play with a more defensive strategy - sitting just in front of Morgan at CM to break up attacks and spark off a counter-attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Can we just start high, and pay whatever it costs to get the "midfield general" we need in. Once we've seen how much that costs, then we can readjust our expectations on the other positions we need to address. The trouble is...I have no idea who fits the bill. I think we have to be looking at smashing our transfer record though - maybe as high as 10 mil??? (unless they are out of contract of course, and then we can just blow the 10 mil on his salary ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 To be fair, he's played a fair bit for Norwich this year and hasn't done a great deal wrong. Would be a decent squad addition....but as with Zat Knight, he wouldn't improve us in anyway. Here we go again, what's with posters on here, and this obsession with squad players ffs. Get in five players better than what we have, and Bingo! we have solved two issues, one being 'squad' players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Here we go again, what's with posters on here, and this obsession with squad players ffs. Get in five players better than what we have, and Bingo! we have solved two issues, one being 'squad' players. Agree entirely. We have enough squad players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Here we go again, what's with posters on here, and this obsession with squad players ffs. Get in five players better than what we have, and Bingo! we have solved two issues, one being 'squad' players. But If you read my views on this before you'll see that I'm also not keen on the idea, hence why I said that he wouldn't improve us in anyway. We need players that are immediately better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 If no one else is gonna mention him (and even if they have) - Michael Owen. And no, I don't really want him... Michael Owen? Is he still around? thought he was trying to be a jockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 But If you read my views on this before you'll see that I'm also not keen on the idea, hence why I said that he wouldn't improve us in anyway. We need players that are immediately better. Yes I did, and it wasn't a pop at you, yours was just the unfortunate quote I picked up on..................sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/04/3077457/southampton-line-up-summer-moves-to-sign-yakubu-livermore? Linking us with Yakubu (no thanks), Matt Phillips (yes please), Jake Livermore (yes please), and Simon Cox (no thanks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/04/3077457/southampton-line-up-summer-moves-to-sign-yakubu-livermore? Linking us with Yakubu (no thanks), Matt Phillips (yes please), Jake Livermore (yes please), and Simon Cox (no thanks) I would take all of them - Yakubu has scored nearly 20 goals this season and Cox can still be effective in the Premier League imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/04/3077457/southampton-line-up-summer-moves-to-sign-yakubu-livermore? Linking us with Yakubu (no thanks), Matt Phillips (yes please), Jake Livermore (yes please), and Simon Cox (no thanks) Would be 4 excellent signings - Livermore in particular would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Wow. So you think we are all set to survive in the EPL because we finished 2nd in the second tier? Just like to point you towards QPR pal. SS, please show me where I mentioned 4-4-2? Also, a box to box midfielder is mainly used in 4-3-3 not just 4-4-2 so I suggest you get off Football Manager. Two mongs, who are insinuating that we don’t need to have alternative's in the PL, we haven’t got a pacey winger, so I imagine it would not be beneficial to us to add a pacey winger to our squad? Brilliant, I won’t get these two minutes I've spent replying to you back. Statistically the team finishing second does better the next season in the EPL than the team finishing first or third. And look at last year from league 1, did Brighton finish above us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Yakubu must be getting on now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Simon Cox has scored just 10 goals in 62 apps for West Brom. Hence the no thanks. Livermore would be a class signing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 This from the same source that stated we were very close to being sold in March for £25M (before £15M invetsment in youth development was made public)!! Let's move on - nothing to see here :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Here we go again, what's with posters on here, and this obsession with squad players ffs. Get in five players better than what we have, and Bingo! we have solved two issues, one being 'squad' players. I agree. 'Squad player' seems to be the diplomatic was of describing a player who isn't actually good enough to be in the first team... but we still want to buy them anyway for some reason. Lowe/Sturrock/Wigley built a squad of 40 odd "squad players", hardly any of them were up to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 This from the same source that stated we were very close to being sold in March for £25M (before £15M invetsment in youth development was made public)!! Let's move on - nothing to see here :-) And the same source that revelaed we were signing Tadanari Lee... Livermore would be quality, and I have seen us linked with Mark Davies as well - he is a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 And the same source that revelaed we were signing Tadanari Lee... Livermore would be quality, and I have seen us linked with Mark Davies as well - he is a very good player. http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/southampton-target-bolton-midfielder-mark-davies-3141991?utm_source=main_feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 Goal and Tribal football. Silly season well and truly underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 We woudn't touch Yakubu. Yes he can score some goals, but at a huge detriment to team spirit and workrate. There's a reason his sides tend to struggle. Same with Cisse. Good strikers, will grab a few goals, but wouldn't want either anywhere near the club. Adkins said: “We want to sign young, hungry players.” Nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 4 May, 2012 Share Posted 4 May, 2012 I agree. 'Squad player' seems to be the diplomatic was of describing a player who isn't actually good enough to be in the first team... but we still want to buy them anyway for some reason. Lowe/Sturrock/Wigley built a squad of 40 odd "squad players", hardly any of them were up to the job. No-one wants us to sign players that aren't good enough. For "squad player", read 'player with a reputation that isn't so large that he expects to be starting every game regardless of form'. Squad players add strength to the squad, players that aren't good enough are deadwood, which we had a lot of under Lowe/Sturrock/Wigley/Redknapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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