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Now let's think about this. Young? Hardly!!!!! Hungry? Not by the look of him. Sorry, I think he fails the FAPP [Fit and Proper Players] test for me.

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I've always seen him as a player that slows down and restricts the teams attack. He doesn't score many either.

 

Not sure what he does to be fair.

 

Liverpool play him out of position nowadays, generally out on the right. He had a good scoring record in Holland, and he's got 85 Dutch caps. Wages, however, would mean he's out of our league.

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Dann is a realistic target and would be an OK acquisition but please forget about Yakubu - Not sure what Whittingham can add except the odd free kick but I agree with Ottery above, I do like the look of Turner as a player..

 

For me, I would love to see Livermore and Phillips here as our top 2 priorities..

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Liverpool play him out of position nowadays, generally out on the right. He had a good scoring record in Holland, and he's got 85 Dutch caps. Wages, however, would mean he's out of our league.

 

Bit of an odd thing to collect.

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Robert Snodgrass being linked with us in a couple of the nationals this morning.

 

He and Matt Phillips would solve our problem at right-midfield.

 

Between them, there is pace, power and trickery. If we managed to get them both, it would be a two quality signings.

 

Realistically though, just one of Matt Jarvis, Phillips or Snodgrass is more likely.

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Robert Snodgrass being linked with us in a couple of the nationals this morning.

 

He and Matt Phillips would solve our problem at right-midfield.

 

Between them, there is pace, power and trickery. If we managed to get them both, it would be a two quality signings.

 

Realistically though, just one of Matt Jarvis, Phillips or Snodgrass is more likely.

 

Snodgrass would be a brilliant signing. Very similar to Lallana and will offer us trickery on the right wing. Sign him up Nige!!!

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Snodgrass would be a brilliant signing. Very similar to Lallana and will offer us trickery on the right wing. Sign him up Nige!!!

 

Spot on. Think Snodgrass is quality and really is like a right-sided Lallana.

 

He's out of contract end of next season too.

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I thought Robinson was going to be an excellent keeper when he was younger but he's never really seemed to reach his potential.

 

I think one of his problems is his weight, which - funnily enough - is a good reason for us to think seriously about signing him. With our fitness and nutrition programmes, he could be our keeper for the next five years. He's three years younger than Kelvin.

 

Robinson is a really good keeper. It's the nature of being the England goalkeeper - you drop one clanger, the media crucify you and you never get seen again. Retiring from internationals must be the best decision he's made for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he attracted a lot of interest.

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Robinson is a really good keeper. It's the nature of being the England goalkeeper - you drop one clanger, the media crucify you and you never get seen again. Retiring from internationals must be the best decision he's made for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if he attracted a lot of interest.

 

Probably WHU if they get promoted.

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I think we need some premiership experience in our squad, i think that is something we are really lacking at the moment. We also need some pace which hopefully would come by fixing our right midfield problem.

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I think we need some premiership experience in our squad, i think that is something we are really lacking at the moment. We also need some pace which hopefully would come by fixing our right midfield problem.

 

To be fair, Norwich or Swansea had little to no premiership experience in their squad. Alot is made of 'Premiership experience' - but at the end of the day, it's still about putting the ball into the back of the net and keeping it out at the other end, the same as in all the leagues. I would like to see us continue with our policy of looking at young British up and coming talent.

 

Take 2 examples from last year, Norwich signed Pilkington and Bennett from League 1 - they'd never played in the Championship before, let alone the premiership - but they still had the quality, that doesn't go away when you move up the level. They are just hungry young players who want to make a name for themselves, that will get us more success than looking for experienced premiership has beens IMO.

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I think we need some premiership experience in our squad, i think that is something we are really lacking at the moment. We also need some pace which hopefully would come by fixing our right midfield problem.

 

Paul Scharner doesn't look to be getting a new contract at West Brom. Could be an option.

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To be fair, Norwich or Swansea had little to no premiership experience in their squad. Alot is made of 'Premiership experience' - but at the end of the day, it's still about putting the ball into the back of the net and keeping it out at the other end, the same as in all the leagues. I would like to see us continue with our policy of looking at young British up and coming talent.

 

Take 2 examples from last year, Norwich signed Pilkington and Bennett from League 1 - they'd never played in the Championship before, let alone the premiership - but they still had the quality, that doesn't go away when you move up the level. They are just hungry young players who want to make a name for themselves, that will get us more success than looking for experienced premiership has beens IMO.

 

Completely agree. Plenty of good players in the Championship and League 1. The likes of Trotter at Millwall and Clayton at Leeds are good examples of this.

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To be fair, Norwich or Swansea had little to no premiership experience in their squad. Alot is made of 'Premiership experience' - but at the end of the day, it's still about putting the ball into the back of the net and keeping it out at the other end, the same as in all the leagues. I would like to see us continue with our policy of looking at young British up and coming talent.

 

Take 2 examples from last year, Norwich signed Pilkington and Bennett from League 1 - they'd never played in the Championship before, let alone the premiership - but they still had the quality, that doesn't go away when you move up the level. They are just hungry young players who want to make a name for themselves, that will get us more success than looking for experienced premiership has beens IMO.

 

Completely agree.

 

This is why Nigel seems to be emphasising "hunger and desire" as opposed to old "been there and done it befores" - And I think that is what we will get ( although I still would love Livermore to come her though !;)

 

Plenty of good options available to us from the Championship of which the likes of Phillips and Snodgrass are but two.

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Great to get some good championship players etc but also don't underestimate the impact of an experienced Prem player ie a Danny Murphy or a Scharner.

 

Would like us to bring in at least one or two who have played a fair few Prem games - they don't have to be old, what about Mark Davies if Bolton go down?

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Stuart Holden is the best of the Bolton players IMO. I know he's been injured for a while but if he can fully recover from the injury he is premiership quality for sure.

 

Their season has been dictated by the loss of Holden and also Chung, who I really rate. They've both had really bad injury's though and it would be a gamble to take if we were to buy one of them.

 

This isn't Holdens first bad injury though, and he also had his injury problems in America. I don't think we'd take the risk.

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I still think Bolton could stay up though. QPR have Man City, which is virtually a guaranteed no points, so really, even though they're two points behind, survival is in Bolton's hands, just. Stoke away is a tough game, but it will show whether Bolton have the stones to stay up. I'd rather they did too, QPR to get relegated please.

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Stuart Holden is the best of the Bolton players IMO. I know he's been injured for a while but if he can fully recover from the injury he is premiership quality for sure.

 

Bolton with Holden : P26 W10 D8 L8, Pts 38, PPG 1.46.

Bolton without Holden : P49 W12 D7 L30, Pts 43, PPG 0.88

 

Would be a great signing and is probably the only player I'd take from Bolton as well as Eagles.

 

What about an ambitious loan move for Lukaku from Chelsea? Wants a loan move and would certainly be a very good signing.

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I still think Bolton could stay up though. QPR have Man City, which is virtually a guaranteed no points, so really, even though they're two points behind, survival is in Bolton's hands, just. Stoke away is a tough game, but it will show whether Bolton have the stones to stay up. I'd rather they did too, QPR to get relegated please.

 

No thanks - I'd rather Bolton went down and QPR stayed up - It's another easier away game to get to. Also want WHam to go up too.

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Quotes makes him seem a bit arrogant, like he expected to be picked ahead of Drogba, Torres etc from the moment he got there.

 

He's probably had years and years of people telling him how he's going to be a megastar, I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't have a touch of arrogance about him. Would take him in a heartbeat, though I expect he'll go to a decent European club.

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I would like to see us make moves for the following:

 

1) Peter Whittingham - Great dead ball delivery & takes a great (left sided) freekick

2) Jordan Rhodes - Had numerous Premier League scouts watching him a couple of months ago. 1 that could be a surprise package in the Premier League; &

3) Matt Phillips - Great pace, has a trick, direct & still young. I think he would scare the sh*t out of some Premiership full backs given the oppourtunity

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I'd love to think so, but can't see Bolton winning. Think they're out of steam. Very low quality side. Depends on Stoke really, but not exactly the side you'd pick as they're not the side to ever not fight or be on summer holidays. I can see a draw or stoke win.

 

QPR will get stuffed. I think their ego heavy squad will assume it's safe already and not fancy their chances against Man City. 5-0 or so IMO.

 

Wigan beat Stoke 1-0 at the Britannia on the final day of the season last year to stay up.

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No thanks - I'd rather Bolton went down and QPR stayed up - It's another easier away game to get to. Also want WHam to go up too.

 

QPR have the finances to strengthen, Bolton less so. I view each potential promotion/relegation issue as to what is better for Southampton FC, in terms of which team will be the easier three points. If QPR strengthen after survival, they'll be a tougher nut to crack next season than Bolton would be.

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I think Bolton will be less of a threat in the league and transfer market than QPR will be to Saints next season.

 

Oops, missed this - you'd already made my point for me. Stuff distance to travel - the key to who we want to go up/come down is who will be easier to beat next season. So QPR to come down and one of the "B" teams to go up please.

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What about Klass Jan Huntelaar at Shalke?

 

I think I'm being over ambitious there but it would be one heck of a statement of intent.

 

Over ambitious to say the least.

 

Spurs can't afford him.

 

He wouldn't even batter an eye lid at us if we ever did show interest.

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I don't think we'd want to blow our wage structure to pieces. We're talking 100k a week or more there, that's not something we can offer, we aren't...Portsmouth.

 

Yeah, I think that would be a major stumbling block. He may have been on £100kpw at Real, but I'm not sure if Shalke have the money to match that. It's possible he took a big pay off from Real and is on a bit less at Shalke, a bit like when Leeds sold Viduka.

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Pilkington is a very good example actually... We knew he had potential, but I'm surprised he's cut it so well in the Prem.

 

Snodgrass is probably a level up from him too.

 

I think Pilkington is a much better player than Snodgrass tbh.

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More because he has looked woeful every time he managed to get into the Blackburn first XI

 

The reason he said that was because I suggested we try for Siggurdson. He thought that was such a ridiculous ask he then pledged 10k to the Saints Trust if we did sign him, and then suggested we go for Moses instead.

 

Vukcevic didn't look that bad, the same with Formica. Playing in a poor tean for a poor manager. He's still youngish, was a very good player when younger out in Portugal, and was his first year in the Premiership. I know a lot of fans who were ****ed off with Kean for not playing him more, and then ultimately falling out with him. Great set piece delivery as well.

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