Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Thought Mutch was distinctly average last night - Struggled for long periods to have any influence on the match at all and particularly boosed around by Ferguson. Redmond is certainly a live wire and injected great energy and pace into Brum's game and undoubtedly contributed to their fightback. However, neither of them would add a great deal to us in the Prem at this stage (although Redmond has potential). Redmond is 18 years old and Mutch is 20 years old, I think they both have a great deal of potential to improve considering their ages.
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 John Voysey @brummieagent Phone hasn't stopped ringing this morning concerning #Wolves striker #StevenFletcher who looks dead cert to depart for #Saints. #Wolveswoe John Voysey @brummieagent PL new boys Southampton are interested in #DCFC Player of the Season Craig Bryson, and are willing to shell out £1m for the Scot #SFC
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 John Voysey @brummieagent Phone hasn't stopped ringing this morning concerning #Wolves striker #StevenFletcher who looks dead cert to depart for #Saints. #Wolveswoe John Voysey @brummieagent PL new boys Southampton are interested in #DCFC Player of the Season Craig Bryson, and are willing to shell out £1m for the Scot #SFC Maybe I was wrong and he hasn't a clue! Or is just trying to flog his clients.
Dig Dig Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Thought Mutch was distinctly average last night - Struggled for long periods to have any influence on the match at all and particularly boosed around by Ferguson. Redmond is certainly a live wire and injected great energy and pace into Brum's game and undoubtedly contributed to their fightback. However, neither of them would add a great deal to us in the Prem at this stage (although Redmond has potential). Luckily for us, scouts tend to track players for months and don't make a judgement based on 1 or 2 games!
MOSaint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Harsh to judge Mutch and Redmond on one performance, especially one that comes at the end of a 60 odd game campaign for Birmingham.
Itchen_block4 Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I hope you are right. Stand out player of his type in the league. Caused no end of problems to fullbacks all season including our own. Doesn't feel like an Adkins signing, but I hope he is. Very exciting player to watch with tricks, pace and strength. Zaha is all tricks and no end product. I'd rather we didn't sign him.
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Zaha is all tricks and no end product. I'd rather we didn't sign him. like most wingers then..
pingwing Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 No Zaha NEVER! Just pace and step overs, was really average both times we played palace and should be left to for another prem team to pay over the odds for. Same for Danny Simpson, just money grabbing. Mutch is supposed to be someone to look out for in the future and Redmond will have a lot of people after him (being quick). John Voysey @brummieagent Phone hasn't stopped ringing this morning concerning #Wolves striker #StevenFletcher who looks dead cert to depart for #Saints. #Wolveswoe That would be impressive, though I doubt it'll actually happen
Bailey Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I've heard we've made an enquiry for Lee Camp. Forest apparently willing to let him go too. Don't suppose you've heard anything have you Patred? Would be a good option IMO and he would certainly push Kelvin for the number 1 jersey. We'll see, but I'd be happy if it happens.
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I've heard we've made an enquiry for Lee Camp. Forest apparently willing to let him go too. Don't suppose you've heard anything have you Patred? Would be a good option IMO and he would certainly push Kelvin for the number 1 jersey. We'll see, but I'd be happy if it happens. Have heard snippets on twitter that he's available for £1m. He'd add quality competition without ousting Davis straight away, so I can see some mileage in it.
itchen_dan Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I've heard we've made an enquiry for Lee Camp. Forest apparently willing to let him go too. Don't suppose you've heard anything have you Patred? Would be a good option IMO and he would certainly push Kelvin for the number 1 jersey. I suggested him last season. Great goalkeeper and at a brilliant age. Would definitely be happy to see him at St Marys. One for now and the future. We'll see, but I'd be happy if it happens.
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I've heard we've made an enquiry for Lee Camp. Forest apparently willing to let him go too. Don't suppose you've heard anything have you Patred? Would be a good option IMO and he would certainly push Kelvin for the number 1 jersey. We'll see, but I'd be happy if it happens. Still think we'll be looking for a Number 1 keeper myself,whether Camp would fit that bill I just couldn't say.
beavis17 Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 My over-riding memories of him from this season are when he let Morgan's shot squirm through his grasp in the 3-0 win and when he gave away a silly penalty at home to Bristol City. Would prefer someone else tbh.
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 My over-riding memories of him from this season are when he let Morgan's shot squirm through his grasp in the 3-0 win and when he gave away a silly penalty at home to Bristol City. Would prefer someone else tbh. I do love this....people are happy to write players off after 1 or 2 games they see. I wonder how many of our players people would buy when you watch our games on telly...my guess...virtually NONE
Appy Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 My over-riding memories of him from this season are when he let Morgan's shot squirm through his grasp in the 3-0 win and when he gave away a silly penalty at home to Bristol City. Would prefer someone else tbh. Lee Camp is a fantastic keeper, to write him off from 2 games is stupid.
beavis17 Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I do love this....people are happy to write players off after 1 or 2 games they see. I wonder how many of our players people would buy when you watch our games on telly...my guess...virtually NONE I don't usually but this is just my opinion in this instance. I think we can do better.
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I don't usually but this is just my opinion in this instance. I think we can do better. give us 5 examples
beavis17 Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Jack Butland and Jason Steele. I'm not a scout but there are probably numerous options in Europe too. Weren't we linked with a Dutch guy in January? Vorm cost aroud the same price that Camp would...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 give us 5 examples Alex Smithies Jack Butland Kasper Schmeichel Adam Federici Allan McGregor David James
derry Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Unlikely I know but I would put in a cheeky bid of £8 mill for hoilett. We haven't replaced oxo and the lad is quality. He is out of contract and free. Won't be coming here.
Dig Dig Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Jack Butland and Jason Steele. I'm not a scout but there are probably numerous options in Europe too. Weren't we linked with a Dutch guy in January? Vorm cost aroud the same price that Camp would... I watched a game once and Jason Steele kicked a ball into touch from a goal kick. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 David James Really? Not exactly a long term prospect at 41 years old, his Skate connections don't help him, plus he wants to live in the West Country and struggled to get into a poor Bristol City side at the end of the season due to a lack of form. Might see him end up at Exeter City, Torquay, Bristol Rovers or Plymouth on low wages.
beavis17 Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I watched a game once and Jason Steele kicked a ball into touch from a goal kick. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Davis does this at least once in nearly every match...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I watched a game once and Jason Steele kicked a ball into touch from a goal kick. Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. I think you've got to accept that we'll be looking for someone much better than either Steele or Butland, a real PL keeper, maybe one of those 2 as 3rd choice.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Really? Not exactly a long term prospect at 41 years old, his Skate connections don't help him, plus he wants to live in the West Country and struggled to get into a poor Bristol City side at the end of the season due to a lack of form. Might see him end up at Exeter City, Torquay, Bristol Rovers or Plymouth on low wages. Two words for you young man.............."John" & "Burridge"
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I do think it's very short sighted to come to the conclusion that a player is not good enough, based on 1 or 2 games you may have seen in the past. In the same way it's also short sighted to say a player is a world beater, just based on 1 or 2 games we've watched. At the end of the day the scouts are in the best position to judge, as they've watched the players many more times than any of us and will have a better all-round picture of the player. So if we do sign Lee Camp, you can be assured that some thorough scouting has gone into it before we even contemplate a bid.
derry Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I like Tom Ince. He looks a real tricky pacy wide man and two footed.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I watched airdrie united vs ayr last night and GRANT ADAM (Charlie Adam brother) was in goal for Airdrie (on loan from Rangers) looked very good. One for the future was nathan blockley - looked absolute class and aged 19 will get snapped up v.soon
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I watched airdrie united vs ayr last night and GRANT ADAM (Charlie Adam brother) was in goal for Airdrie (on loan from Rangers) looked very good. One for the future was nathan blockley - looked absolute class and aged 19 will get snapped up v.soon what a load of rubbish....you don't go to games
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 I like Tom Ince. He looks a real tricky pacy wide man and two footed. yep, he is my number one target this summer if Blackpool fail in final!
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 yep, he is my number one target this summer if Blackpool fail in final! Are you Nigel Adkins?
corky morris Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Seen Lee Camp a number of times against Saints & also on the TV & he is IMHO one of the worst keepers in the champ. No thanks. If we want to take a punt may as well take the young Posh keeper who is on a free. I know he has made mistakes too, but £1m or a freebie......................absolute no brainer!!
Nexstar Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Transfer Rumours @1TransferRumour Southampton are interested in Birmingham's Nathan Redmond and Jordan Mutch despite interest from bigger clubs. #Saints
SNSUN Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Unlikely I know but I would put in a cheeky bid of £8 mill for hoilett. We haven't replaced oxo and the lad is quality. We'd be overpaying by about £8 million! He's OOC, and will go to a top club. Sadly.
the saint in winchester Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Think it was 9M No, Cisse cost Newcastle £7M - 100% certain - final answer.
doggface Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 We'd be overpaying by about £8 million! He's OOC, and will go to a top club. Sadly. Ah thought he had a year left.... if free he can name his price. Which we would not pay. However I disagree that just because a player is rated by bigger clubs that we should not make enquiries if we can afford. We signed the European player of the year before remember! (ok it was donkeys years ago)
Ludwig Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 SI's MD Miles Jacobson follows this agent on Twitter. I know Miles has contacts in the world of agents to help with the development of FM. Miles also follows me - does this validate any rumour I'd make up on twitter? No, probably not.
Saints foreva Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Lee Camp is a fantastic keeper, to write him off from 2 games is stupid. This forum is full of people like that. I think majority of Forest fans would agree that Lee Camp has been a solid keeper for them over the last 3 years.
SNSUN Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 No, Cisse cost Newcastle £7M - 100% certain - final answer. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/17/newcastle-freiburg-pa****-demba-cisse
Smirking_Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 That brummie agent has basically linked us with every player in Birmingham today tbh
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 This forum is full of people like that. I think majority of Forest fans would agree that Lee Camp has been a solid keeper for them over the last 3 years. And TheSeventyTwo would back up their views too; the only 'keeper in the top 25 players of the Championship.
supergoose Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 We signed the European player of the year before remember! Ahhh Paul Telfer.... Happy days!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Jason Euell just released by Charlton....... Hcdajfu imo
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Jason Euell just released by Charlton....... Hcdajfu imo the Mule....memories
Nidger Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Delivery is vital in any league, that doesn't mean you should find a place for a player that isn't otherwise good enough for the team. I don#t think we'll ever agree on Peter Whittingham tbh! I don't see you offering up any alternatives other than agreeing with my suggestion of Matt Phillips thou! Have u got any suggestions to put forward? Who knows, we might agree on some of them!
latter day saint Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Olly Lancashire has been released by Walsall useful cover ? (when the Mega Store gets busy )
Nidger Posted 10 May, 2012 Posted 10 May, 2012 Why do you need alternatives? An opinion of Whittingham is valid without alternatives. I'd rather use players we already have for a start! If we're talking about wingers, and I admit I have zero idea what realistic means given my lack of knowledge on our finances etc., then maybe Pederson, Phillips, Eagles, Jarvis, De Bruyne, Olsson, Weiss, Redmond, Zaha, Albrighton. I just wanted to hear which players you rated, that was all. You don't rate Whittingham, and that is your opinion which I respect. I think De Bruyne is an interesting suggestion and I can see a possible season long loan from Chelsea being a possibility. I thought Chris Eagles would go on to be another player to graduate from the Man Utd academy in to their 1st team but it didn't work out. I think his form for Bolton this year has been a bit hit and miss but I still think he is a good player. Redmond looked very lively and direct last night but Birmingham rate him in a similar bracket to AOC so I think he could cost a lot of money! Zaha is another quick young player with a trick, but his tendency to lose his rag when things aren't going his way would be a concern for me. Which other areas of the team do you believe we need to strengthen?
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