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Well whatever doubt I had has gone, having just seen the Football League Show. Smile on his face was amazing.

 

My thoughts too. He was clearly very emotional in the BBC interview straight after the game, and looked like he was very concerned about his players. In the FL show, with the players celebrating, he looked like he had relaxed into it by then.

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Knowing how Nigels brain seems to work in a wider sphere, maybe the comment is the start of keeping everyone's feet on the ground, in that in the Prem we are not likely to have the same win ratio we have enjoyed for the last 2/3 seasons.

Maybe he has also read on here that after 10 games in the prem he will get the bullet? ;)

 

Maybe as someone else has said, and looking at the Football League show, the emotion of the day by the time he did that interview had finally worn him down............. And every manager knows their existence in the job is always precarious.

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It wasn't as much of an embrace as last year, but there we go. It's another step in our plan and another brick in the wall so to speak.

 

It did seem a bit odd but I have seen heard 5 or 6 Adkins interviews from today and this is the only one like this.

 

I think they just caught him in the heat of the moment at a rare time when he is emotional. I think it is more a case of Nigel making the point of we are far less likely to be winning the vast majority of our games next season, and that whilst we have experienced great success, it is important to remember where we have come from - and not get above our post.

 

If that eventually plays out, we have to take the "We'll cross that bridge if/when we come to it."

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You've got to understand that he has put his heart and soul into achieving this very thing and now he has gotten it. There's got to be a feeling of "now what?". Few of us ever set such a target for ourselves and far fewer reach it. I imagine he has to take some time to relax, adjust and decide what he wants to do now. Sometimes that could be a completely new start but he is so comfortable here I can't really see that. I imagine he will return in a few weeks fired up with enthusiasm and ready to build a bigger bus with a big f**k-off engine and wheels which could drive over pedestrians like a monster truck.

 

If someone sees him out and about, please give him a big hug from me. He's ****ing giving me back my pride in my club. That's priceless.

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You've got to understand that he has put his heart and soul into achieving this very thing and now he has gotten it. There's got to be a feeling of "now what?".

 

Thank you for explaining what i was thinking. That's the crux of it right there. It's not a problem for us.

 

Nigel has hidden everything from us since he came here. All of a sudden, we got it all in a single ejaculation. Hell, even his ejaculations don't give too much away!!

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Im probably (hopefully) extremely wrong, and i know il be abused for mentioning it on the evening of our promotion party... but watching Nigels interview on saints player, without promt he starts talking about 'good things coming to an end, and how it will be a sad day when he leaves, and that he hopes its done in the right way'

 

Correct me if im wrong, but surely a premier league promotion winning manager shouldn't be talking about that stuff?mwhy the bloody hell is he?

 

With 2 promotions in 2 seasons, the man is an absolute hero. Smeone reassure me im reading into this the wrong way?

ah feck you.. Adkins will be saints manager start of next season..

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We can speculate all we like... it could be that Adkins was given teh job of getting us up ... and he's doesn't earier than expected' date=' and that there was always the intention of some change... [/quote']

 

If there is any basis for concern, this would be my explanation too; once up, NC always intended to appoint someone else, and NA knew it from the start.

 

But he must have someone with the stature of Mourinho in mind if this is the case, because I cannot see yer average PL manager being good enough to supplant NA in NCs eyes.

 

If this is the case, NA will float into another job with his CV.

 

Anyway, this was probably just all about ovewhelming emotions.

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Well I for one want Adkins to be given a chance in the Prem, and by that I mean have a contract that allows him to breathe and not have the exit button continually over his head. And I'd like us to only bring in team players in key positions. But this is for further down the line.

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A ridiculous thread considering the euphoria surrounding the day. Of course Nicola will be pushing hard for improvement during the course of the next 12 months, but that doesn't mean that Nigel won't get the chance to step up. He's done it already, so why would Nicola doubt that he won't be able to do it again? It's the same with the players. As for the hugging part, would you hug your Boss? I wouldn't. Pardew got a hug at Wembley, and he was gone within months. Nigel isn't going anywhere. He loves his job and we all love him. My only wish is that his post-match interviews become more interesting.

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For a man in such a tough job managing a group of strong personalities in a professional football club, someone very much in the public eye, Adkins is a strange character when it comes to media interviews. We all know he basically says the same things every time and rarely talks on a truly personal basis. What he said about his management career at SFC not lasting forever was akin to saying that the only certainty in life is death but it was a peculiar thing to bring up at such a time. Could it have been that in an unguarded moment he let his defences slip and we saw some of the uncertainty that is in his mind. Maybe he does worry about his future despite the fantastic result of the last two years and perhaps Cortese is a hard man to work for but the idea that there is any threat hanging over him is just unthinkable.

 

Advice to Nigel - and I know its almost insulting to offer him any - would be to get some close season PR advice on how to handle the media and how to simply talk in an interview without falling back on a few over-used phrases. Let the guard down Nigel and enjoy the job!

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Sorry but I just don't buy this whole he's just here to get us up Bo!!ocks, he would never have taken the job if that was the agreement, I mean seriously ffs!!

 

BTW if some of hadn't noticed recently Nigel's been speaking very highly of NC in the last couple of days. Also when they were all celebrating above where my ST is, at 1 point the crowd were chanting his name & he turned and pointed directly at NC.

 

He's understandably emotional, maybe should have waited till tomorrow till doing another interview.

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Did Norwich sack Paul Lambert when they got promoted to the Premiership ?

 

Did Paul Lambert fail this year ?

 

I expect Adkins was expressing his opinions that the Premiership was going to be a new fresh challenge and who knows what will happen.

 

I would imagine he deserves a good rest away from it all and he can then return re-energised. He did this at the end of last season if you remember.

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I watched the interview and did not perceive it in the same way as the OP !

He actually said that it would inevitably happen 'somewhere down the line' which is nothing more than a realistic observation !

Sometimes people read far too much into statements, particularly when there is so much emotion flying around !

Onwards and upwards with Nigel at the helm :)

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A ridiculous thread considering the euphoria surrounding the day. Of course Nicola will be pushing hard for improvement during the course of the next 12 months, but that doesn't mean that Nigel won't get the chance to step up. He's done it already, so why would Nicola doubt that he won't be able to do it again? It's the same with the players. As for the hugging part, would you hug your Boss? I wouldn't. Pardew got a hug at Wembley, and he was gone within months. Nigel isn't going anywhere. He loves his job and we all love him. My only wish is that his post-match interviews become more interesting.

 

Clearly quite a few posters noticed the odd comments in Adkins interview. Yes its a shame we are questioning Adkins future but he seemed downbeat and the comments made were very unlike him. You mention this thread goes against the euphoria of the day but you could same the same about Adkins comments.

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Clearly quite a few posters noticed the odd comments in Adkins interview. Yes its a shame we are questioning Adkins future but he seemed downbeat and the comments made were very unlike him. You mention this thread goes against the euphoria of the day but you could same the same about Adkins comments.

 

He was probably emotionally drained, he was talking about himself which he rarely does. Honestly I cant see anything like what some are suggesting on here. He clearly states "somewhere down the line". He might as well have said we all die at some point cos he aint gonna be here when he's 80 is he ?

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He was probably emotionally drained, he was talking about himself which he rarely does. Honestly I cant see anything like what some are suggesting on here. He clearly states "somewhere down the line". He might as well have said we all die at some point cos he aint gonna be here when he's 80 is he ?

 

 

..which would have been equally as odd. If you were at a christening and the father started talking about his child dying somewhere down the line it woukd be weird. By the same token, this is weird.

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Spades apologies if I misread you op but I was pretty ****ed when I read what you posted . Not looking for conflict but when I saw the thread title it did peeve me a bit .

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The original poster is trying to spoil the day what a ***** . Sorry I have just seen this tread and a little worse for wear . The club is one united family . Nige is not going anywhere

Spoil the day? Your joking? Having supported saints all my life, i am one of Adkins biggest fans, i bloody love the bloke. I just saw his interview and wondered what others thought, no harm in that!

 

Your clearly the ****** if you need to spend your time celebrating by trying to cause conflict!

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Nigel was obviously emotional after the match and it was very clear how much the players, supporters, indeed, the whole club mean to him. Perhaps, as a lottery-winner - in the midst of wild celebration parties and flying champagne corks - might think: 'now would be a cr@p time to die!', Nigel was simply thinking: 'I love this club so much, it will be a shame when eventually I have to leave!'

 

Nicola Cortese will always employ the right man for the job. Right now, how can the right man be anyone other than the one that's presided over successive promotions and is largely responsible for the fantastic spirit running throughout the entire club?

 

Let's celebrate our club's incredible achievements for a while longer before we start imagining problems which, I'm confident, don't exist.

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I've just watched and listened to all the Adkins interviews from today. He's very emotional and this is perhaps one of the very few times he's cracked, especially in the BBC one. He gives no indication there, neither does he mention anything on Solent. It's only on SaintsPlayer where he mentions that things always come to an end etc. I'm not sure if it means anything, tbh.

 

That said, I'm bloody praying he's here for the long-term and there is nothing in it.

 

This is on the money for me, eventually Nigel has let everything out after getting over the line. You could see in a couple of the interviews his head just was not there and he let things come flooding out. All the time he kept on talking abut the players and mix that in with the realisation that most of them will not be here or in the first team, may have prompted those remarks. It is definitely a concern because you really see this from managers, especially Adkins. I thought he wanted to burst into tears at one stage.

 

The big problem is that Adkins has never managed in the Premier and the step up in class is so much greater than anything he will ever have experienced. All of thesde things must have been playing over in his head and broke through when the job was done. Higel wants to go and have a good holiday, come back refreshed and suck the experience in. Nicola needs to back him with about £30M just to ensure we stay in this division and I am sure Nigel will get support from Nicola.

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Surely what he was meaning was that we and he have done very well the last two years but if it stops being so successful and he leaves then remember these great days and make sure his contribution is remembered.

 

The interviewer said surely he was around for the long term and he said of course but you never know in football. Thats a fair comment. Look at QPR with Warnock. If it starts not to work then Cortese will look at it then and make the best decision in his opinion for Saints.

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Im probably (hopefully) extremely wrong, and i know il be abused for mentioning it on the evening of our promotion party... but watching Nigels interview on saints player, without promt he starts talking about 'good things coming to an end, and how it will be a sad day when he leaves, and that he hopes its done in the right way'

 

Correct me if im wrong, but surely a premier league promotion winning manager shouldn't be talking about that stuff?mwhy the bloody hell is he?

 

With 2 promotions in 2 seasons, the man is an absolute hero. Smeone reassure me im reading into this the wrong way?

I haven't seen the video clip in question, but can't we just enjoy the achievement without making knee jerk reactions to something that was said in an emotional state?
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People talk about the step up in class to manage at Premier level but seriously, why should Nige have any worries on that score? I'm sure he could more than hold his own against the likes of Lambert, Pardew, Hughes, Martinez, Rogers and Pullis. The guy is fresh and full of bright, innovative ideas. He has galvanised the Saints and brought a work ethic and team spirit that was sadly missing for too many seasons. Look at his record of winning promotions including our own back-to-back ones which is a massive testament to the guy. OK, his after match interviews are riddled with cliches but nobody can doubt his passion, desire and great love for Southampton Football Club. Success in the Premier won't rely solely on the manager - you need a great scouting system, good coaches and fitness experts plus backing from your fans and Chairman. Surely Nige deserves all these things especially the last one - Coretese must support him now after all he has achieved. He came as a realtive unknown and certainly wasn't heralded as the new saviour by many of our fans. How he has won them over! For a club like ours he is the perfect man for the job and the only danger in terms of him not being around next season should be the worry that some other club will try to tempt him away - that could happen if he is not given immediate reassurances that he is still considered the man most likely to take this football club to the next level. Thanks for all you've achieved for us Nige and I hope you'll still be prowling the technical area and giving your quirky after-match interviews for seasons to come - you deserve to be!

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The pressure is going to be on him next season.

 

Cortese wants to grow this club. He wants us competing at the highest level in Europe.

 

He will have one of the best 6 Academy set ups in Europe when it is finished.

 

He has already told staff that if we can maintain Premier status next year he will extend Northam, Kingsland and Chapel with another tier.

 

Adkins has a contract until June 2015. He can be part of that success. He is not the finished article but he will learn and adapt

 

As teams evolve through promotion and players are left in a league beyond their means and talent so can the backroom staff. I am sure that was Adkins reflection on a day of massive emotion

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The pressure is going to be on him next season.

 

Cortese wants to grow this club. He wants us competing at the highest level in Europe.

 

He will have one of the best 6 Academy set ups in Europe when it is finished.

 

He has already told staff that if we can maintain Premier status next year he will extend Northam, Kingsland and Chapel with another tier.

 

Adkins has a contract until June 2015. He can be part of that success. He is not the finished article but he will learn and adapt

 

As teams evolve through promotion and players are left in a league beyond their means and talent so can the backroom staff. I am sure that was Adkins reflection on a day of massive emotion

so, when will our outstanding academy players start to make appearances?

 

I'd have thought expansion will be done only one stand at a time.

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so, when will our outstanding academy players start to make appearances?

 

I'd have thought expansion will be done only one stand at a time.

Academy willtake time It is the best 6 in Europe quote that backs Cortese's vision

 

As for stands - Cortese has said all three will happen in close season next year if we maintain Premier status.

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Academy willtake time It is the best 6 in Europe quote that backs Cortese's vision

 

As for stands - Cortese has said all three will happen in close season next year if we maintain Premier status.

 

Is that a realistic timescale ? My initial reaction is that it is unlikely for that development to be completed between May and August, but pleased to be proven wrong.

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agree - was a weird thing to say in the context of what he'd just achieved. also the handshake between him and NC looked fairly cold. But i hope to hell he's given a chance next season.

You are definitely adding 2 + 2 and making 5. I have now watched the interview and all he was saying was that nothing is forever and, in my interpretation he was saying that he could have a bad run and get sacked or he could be offered a top job and leave but whatever happens he hopes that it is done the right way. BTW I don't think there is anything of note in the handshake - what reason would Cortese have for wanting to sack NA (unless he has discovered that he has been talking to Newcastle of course ;) )

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It was a strange interview but I think on the emotion of yesterday I'll give him the benefit. I hope he can become what Moyes is at Everton.

it was strange only because nige stopped with his media act...season is over..no need to go into auto and talk about drawing blue lines

 

that was as honest as an interview as you are going to get...I don't think he quite believed that he done it....and he is right..one day, he will leave saints and no matter what, he is now an SFC legend

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it was strange only because nige stopped with his media act...season is over..no need to go into auto and talk about drawing blue lines

 

 

I fully expect NA to still go through the exercise of drawing a blue line under Cov and then the season, otherwise his records would only cover 45 games and the analyst's computer will say "No".

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Wasn't a strange interview at all. Some utter clowns on here.

Just humility that nothing lasts forever. Need to acknowledge that even when for all intents and purposes you're on top of the world. Allows you to savour the moment.

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Wasn't a strange interview at all. Some utter ***** on here.

Just humility that nothing lasts forever. Need to acknowledge that even when for all intents and purposes you're on top of the world. Allows you to savour the moment.

 

No disagree. It is very odd. "I hope it will be done in the right way"... Tell me again it isn't odd to talk about that when you're ve just been promoted??

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No disagree. It is very odd. "I hope it will be done in the right way"... Tell me again it isn't odd to talk about that when you're ve just been promoted??

 

For some, perhaps. I just don't see it that way. Football is a fickle business. Good to remind yourself of your own fallibility if only to appreciate how precious these moments are. Call it the pathos of the underdog or just being philosophical. But odd it isn't.

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