JoeShmoe Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 I hope Nige and the squad have practiced what we need to go to go up a gear and really press if the worst happens and we need to score in the last 10-15 minutes. I noticed at Reading and Boro that when we need to chase a game we seem to get ragged and go long ball to no-one in particular Maybe stick Jos up top, or take a full back off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 just give it to Guly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Hoof it to Lambert seems to be our plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Hoof it to Lambert seems to be our plan B ..often after a lot of sideways passes across the midfield and back four. Actually option A is pass it around and batter them (4-0) Option B - just batter them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Sitting through the games at home especially for the whole season, I always thought I could see Plan A , B, C, D, and E on many an occasion as Adkins has always tweaked things from the sidelines. However in recent weeks I do think he has been a little hamstrung by players like Lee out who adds another dimension, Chaplow bobbing in and out of fitness, Morgan out, De Ridder looking a little flat (although a ball for him to run onto would be nice). Connelly missing, Barney probably a bit distracted, Puncheon (god. Knows). Guly seems to slow the tempo, but then replacing Chaplow and the way he runs around Usane Bolt might even look a bit lethargic.When we know it's not our day yes sometimes the long ball appears to be the last resort, and lacking in an abundance of pace makes it look worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 If Plan A dont work we dont have a plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Plan B is turn the lights off at Upton Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Hoof it to Lambert seems to be our plan B Oh, thats plan A aswell. Looks like we are in the **** then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Hopefully will not need to find out tomorrow. I think the good thing is Cov will try and play rather than sit back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 PLan A will work we shan't need a plan B, or even a plan Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 In fact I was looking at the highlights of our 4-2 win at Coventry on the OS earlier on. Guly was playing on the left for most of that game with RL on point and AL in behind RL.Seemed like a right good system actually, mind you Fonte was firkin horrible already, both of their goals were his fault more or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Lordy, we have some fans who need to get down to Specsavers... There's no such thing as a Plan B. You can change the tactics but what parts of this very simple plan do not work... 1. Get the ball. 2. Give it to a bloke in the same coloured shirt ahead of you in a goal scoring position. 3. Do 2 until someone is. Football is a very simple game. We did that against Reading and it would have worked had a) two players not missed great chances, b) the keeper pulled off a couple of great saves c) TWO players ignored rule 2. The distance we hit the ball at point 2 is immaterial as long as we do it. We did not just hoof it to Lambert against Reading - that's the worst description of that game imaginable. The ball was hit STRAIGHT to him like a fecking arrow and for 75 minutes he flicked it on, held it up or used it immaculately... Here's the thing. Adkins 60%+ win ratio. Two managers in the ENTIRE COUNTRY better - sitting 1 and 2 in the Premier League... But now he needs a plan from the fecking internet... I love football fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 We're just like Barca, so no Plan B. Just hope Coventry are not just like Chelski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Plan B is always **** 'em up get into 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 We're just like Barca, so no Plan B. Just hope Coventry are not just like Chelski. Ah yes, the ill-equipped tactically inept Guardiola whose record in four years is... er... La Liga (three), Spanish Super Cup (three), Champions League (two), World Club Cup (two), European Super Cup (two), Copa del Rey (one). TOTAL: 13. And would have been in the Champion's League final with their plan but for being fecking unlucky. Which is fine. Coventry won't be that lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Plan A - win the game. Plan B - batter them by more than 2. I'd say we will be going to plan B just before HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Crazy isn't it. One bad run, which still involves finishing 2nd, a cup final, world club cup, super cup and CL semi and you've 'been found out' etc. So many football fans don't understand the concept of form despite watching for years. Chelsea were capable of beating Barca maybe 10% of the time and they did it. Another night it could have been a stuffing. Or if Barca had Villa fit perhaps, or Abidal there to defend, or merely Messi with his finishing boots on. Sh1t happens, no teams keeps winning forever. It seems odd that having been perhaps the best team ever for several years, people prefer to judge Barca on their 'downfall'. Surely any team at that peak has to come down a little? That's what a 'peak' is after all. They'll come back if the management continues to be decent. They've rotated too much this season, used squad players and suffered from injuries. Barca always had the philosophy that their best chance of winning a game was to keep playing in the same way for 90 minutes. It'd be crazy to argue with that given their record. Yep, and they still haven't lost three games in a row - as they drew on Tuesday (and were 90 seconds from winning the game - albeit that would still have lost the tie). The only reason they have lost La Liga is because they have been up against arguably the best manager in the world who has been handed an unlimited budget. I said it before and I'll say it now - anyone who thinks Di Matteo planned for Messi to hit the post and miss a penalty is mad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 (edited) Does anyone think The real reason Guardiola has quit is in fear after hearing a few Saints fans singing "Barcelona, we're coming for you" at Middlesborough last week? Edited 27 April, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Does anyone think I real reason Guardiola has quit is in fear after hearing a few Saints fans singing "Barcelona, we're coming for you" at Middlesborough last week? Or because we've done a deal with him for next season... Be interesting to see if he wants as long a break as WGS didn't obviously want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev2001 Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Does anyone think I real reason Guardiola has quit is in fear after hearing a few Saints fans singing "Barcelona, we're coming for you" at Middlesborough last week? No he's hoping to be NAs assistant in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Or because we've done a deal with him for next season... Be interesting to see if he wants as long a break as WGS didn't obviously want... He would fit Corteses vision of world domination with a team full of academy graduates, I wonder....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Ah yes, the ill-equipped tactically inept Guardiola whose record in four years is... er... La Liga (three), Spanish Super Cup (three), Champions League (two), World Club Cup (two), European Super Cup (two), Copa del Rey (one). TOTAL: 13. And would have been in the Champion's League final with their plan but for being fecking unlucky. Which is fine. Coventry won't be that lucky. Don't recall mentioning anything about anyone's tactical ineptness, my comment was light-hearted. But it does just show that playing the same way regardless of the situation can sometimes mean that the results don't always work out the way one would expect. I can't imagine Barca reverting to hoofball, but sometimes principles should be dispensed with. But then I really don't think Adkins has only one style, and is more than capable of changing tactics several times during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Don't recall mentioning anything about anyone's tactical ineptness, my comment was light-hearted. But it does just show that playing the same way regardless of the situation can sometimes mean that the results don't always work out the way one would expect. I can't imagine Barca reverting to hoofball, but sometimes principles should be dispensed with. But then I really don't think Adkins has only one style, and is more than capable of changing tactics several times during a game. Aye I guessed as much as regards your comment, but the truth is Barca were bloody unlucky. Let's say they had lobbed the ball into the box for 20 minutes, would they have been any more likely to score?? Arsenal fans have complained for years that they keep playing the same way rather than press for goals when they need them. But if you analysed all of football I bet you'd find that players playing the ball to one another and trying to create goals are far more likely to score than simply lobbing the ball into the box and hoping to get lucky... If the way Arsenal play normally results in goals, why is suddenly changing the style going to result in a higher percentage of goals from open play? It makes no sense whatsoever, yet we all say the same thing - 'get it up there'... It's a curse of football fans to see something, see it not work as everyone hopes and assume that an alternative would have resulted in an alternative outcome. If Messi doesn't miss a penalty, chances are Barca would have won the game at a canter. Same as Billy Sharp at Blackpool. It's rarely the style of our play that doesn't work, but the inidviduals within the style not doing their job properly - missing chances, giving the ball away when in possession and pushing. Adkins is pretty good at seeing when things aren't working and changing them a bit. But if you said to me we could win 60%+ of our games but might occasionally be done by a team who park the bus and hope (which is what it is, hope) that we don't take our chances and they will hit us on the breeak... well, I'd take that, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Mourinho has forged some amazing consistency there, but I think that's largely because they became convinced they'd never beat Barca, saw just how many points they'd need and didn't allow for any complacency throughout the season. They deserve it this season, but if both teams are at their best, Barca are still far better IMO. Next season will be very interesting as they try to get their title back. I think Mourinho only wants to stay for the CL, he'd have been off if he'd won that too, but I imagine 2 titles would be enough for him. And as good as Messi is, he needs Rickie to take the pens for him. It could be the all new and upgraded version of Beattie and Pahars. Aye, although I tried to get £50 on at 12/1 Jose to be England manager and my bet was refused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 I hope Nige and the squad have practiced what we need to go to go up a gear and really press if the worst happens and we need to score in the last 10-15 minutes. I noticed at Reading and Boro that when we need to chase a game we seem to get ragged and go long ball to no-one in particular Maybe stick Jos up top, or take a full back off? Plan B is to continue to pass the ball. Plan C is to wang it at Lambert (worked at Cardiff for 20 mins). Plan D was what we did at Brighton, which loosely resembled bringing on Forte and Ben Reeves and running around panicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Does anyone think The real reason Guardiola has quit is in fear after hearing a few Saints fans singing "Barcelona, we're coming for you" at Middlesborough last week? Obviously. It was funny for about 30 seconds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 27 April, 2012 Share Posted 27 April, 2012 Plan A: Win Plan B: Draw, and pray West Ham don't win by enough to leapfrog us. Plan C: Lose, and pray West ham don't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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