Pilchards Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If we end up third then we play 6th place away first? Who would you prefer Blackpool, Cardiff, Brum or Boro again? Don't worry this is a thread to pass the time as it's ticking too slowly for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Not Blackpool or Brum. Probably go for Boro. Didn't think they were anything special when we played them. Cardiff we could beat too. Here's to hoping this becomes irrelevant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If i had to pick one i think we could do Boro over two legs,but i dont even want to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Boro, just so we can get one back on them, their fans are going on like they won the Champions League all week. It's a pathetic excuse for a football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Hasn't even occurred to me that we could finish in the playoffs. If we do it will be a devastating blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 All things considered, and as I do not expect 'Boro to make it, Cardiff please.....then Birmingham in the final. But we will not have to worry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I don't want to even contemplate this as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Not worth thinking of but Blackpool (because of their style) are the only team to fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 stop being such spineless, bottle job helmets. We are not going to finish anywhere other than second FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If it has to happen, then Boro just for the fancy dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Ffs another thread!!! They've one once away all season ffs, grow a pair and enjoy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 At the moment the other play off teams seem to be Blackpool, Birmingham, Cardiff. To be promoted we'd have to get past 2 of them We dropped 5 points against Blackpool We dropped 5 points against Cardiff We beat Birmingham at home comprehensively, but that was during our early-season purple patch. Away was a tough battle for a draw. Conclusion: if we dont get auto we arent going up at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 At the moment the other play off teams seem to be Blackpool, Birmingham, Cardiff. To be promoted we'd have to get past 2 of them We dropped 5 points against Blackpool We dropped 5 points against Cardiff We beat Birmingham at home comprehensively, but that was during our early-season purple patch. Away was a tough battle for a draw. Conclusion: if we dont get auto we arent going up at all.I am glad you are not the manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I really would not fancy our chances in the play offs. The dropping off in form combined with the disappointment would be a vary big hurdle to over come. Equally, I do not believe it will do West Hams chances any favours as they will be going through something very similar if they fail at that last hurdle. We have an excellent chance of going up automatically by getting a result against Coventry. Bearing in mind Coventry are the sort of team we do better against of the bottom 3, poor away form against the best home form in the division, there is every reason to be optimistic. Should things not work out for West Ham, it would not surprise me that the extended hope of automatic up to the last game will not be looked upon as a blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I am glad you are not the manager! Look, forget who posted it and the bandwagon of animosity, FFS. WTF is wrong with what I wrote ? In addition our players attitudes are going to range from heartbroken to sulky, FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Blackpool. It's a win-win situation. If we win we go on to the playoff final, which we will win because the pressure is off. If we lose, we get one of smirking Olly's priceless quotes about how Southampton think they're a big club but they ain't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Look, forget who posted it and the bandwagon of animosityDear Mr Paranoid - I didn't even stop to look who posted it - rarely do. I just said what I thought - if we end up in the playoffs, I would hope that our manager takes a different view. That is all. Anyway, it is moot 'cos we are not going to be in the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Blackpool. It's a win-win situation. If we win we go on to the playoff final, which we will win because the pressure is off. If we lose, we get one of smirking Olly's priceless quotes about how Southampton think they're a big club but they ain't So it is a win-win situation - unless we lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 if we fail on sat...may as well give up and not bother with the playoffs...SWF would have spoken and would just give up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Speaking entirely objectively - if we do not beat Coventry on Saturday then we will not get promoted at all. Has any team that finished third ever been promoted? And Psychologically, having passed up several opportunities to make promotion safe and failed to do so, I don't think it would matter who we play. So COYR ON SATURDAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Speaking entirely objectively - if we do not beat Coventry on Saturday then we will not get promoted at all. Has any team that finished third ever been promoted? And Psychologically, having passed up several opportunities to make promotion safe and failed to do so, I don't think it would matter who we play. So COYR ON SATURDAY. yes...quite a few times actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 So it is a win-win situation - unless we lose? Basically! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Look, forget who posted it and the bandwagon of animosity, FFS. WTF is wrong with what I wrote ? In addition our players attitudes are going to range from heartbroken to sulky, FFS. Alps its just you state as fact that we wont go up if in the playoffs - just as many folk said Barcelona would **** on Chelsea - yes teh odds would against us goven the disspointment and difficulty in lifting the squad, yes teh opposition is tough, but no one is unbeatable and nothing is pre-ordained - thats why a few are having a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Has any team that finished third ever been promoted?Yes, quite a few as it happens. What about Derby in 2006-2007? Now who did they beat in the semi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Yes, quite a few as it happens. What about Derby in 2006-2007? Now who did they beat in the semi? swansea last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 When would the play off's & final take place ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 swansea last seasonetc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 At the moment the other play off teams seem to be Blackpool, Birmingham, Cardiff. To be promoted we'd have to get past 2 of them We dropped 5 points against Blackpool We dropped 5 points against Cardiff We beat Birmingham at home comprehensively, but that was during our early-season purple patch. Away was a tough battle for a draw. Conclusion: if we dont get auto we arent going up at all. Well by your logic, we have 2 wins from 2 games away at Coventry this season, one with a reserve team. Face a home game againts them, best home record v worst away...No way we aren't going up automatically. You must be delighted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If we can't beat Coventry on Saturday then we don't deserve to go up. Our home and their away record should see us win fairly comfortably. I just wish we had a leader on the field who can control and dictate the play, a premiership quality Bailey type character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Well by your logic, we have 2 wins from 2 games away at Coventry this season, one with a reserve team. Face a home game againts them, best home record v worst away...No way we aren't going up automatically. You must be delighted? I am confident, but not in a shout-it-from-the-rooftops kind-of-way. I have far too many years of supporting SFC behind me for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Lets be honest, if you could pick a team to have to beat in such a game from this league it'd be Coventry. If we dont win it wont be because Coventry have suddenly decided to play brilliantly after 45 games of being sh*t. It'll be because our players cracked, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 When you climb a ladder and don't want to lose your nerve you look up not down. Think positive. We're not going into the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 swansea last season Fair enough - you have just cheered me up a little bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 In a way, it's a shame Hull don't still have an outside shot of making the play-offs. I'd take Cardiff in the semi, and if we got through, I'd like Brum in the final. Blackpool should be avoided. They're a very attacking team and far too unpredictable, but as has been said, if we finish third on Saturday, we'll not win the play-offs, although of course we would deserve to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 As an aside, I am of the opinion that if we finish second the 3 teams up will be Reading, Saints, Hammers. I just have this feeling that although being 3rd would still hurt them for a few days, what with their players playing at the higher level before, many having been relegated, and the fact that they had been playing catch-up to us for so long, that they would recover from the disappointment quicker and be better equiped to deliver the necessary performance in the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 As an aside, I am of the opinion that if we finish second the 3 teams up will be Reading, Saints, Hammers. I just have this feeling that although being 3rd would still hurt them for a few days, what with their players playing at the higher level before, many having been relegated, and the fact that they had been playing catch-up to us for so long, that they would recover from the disappointment quicker and be better equiped to deliver the necessary performance in the play offs. remember this if you go into a forum break down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 remember this if you go into a forum break down what are you dribbling about now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 West Ham expect playoffs. There's a big difference with them coming 3rd now and us dropping to 3rd after being top 2 for 9 months. That said, it'll still be tough for them given their financial necessity for promotion, and that most the country will be supporting their opposition. Have a feeling Cardiff might actually do it this time, making up for their cup final, determined to match Swansea etc. Those set pieces are always vital in tight playoff games too. Really wouldn't want to see Marlon King get promoted, Birmingham bore me to death almost as much as Villa, and I can't stand Holloway. So really has to be Cardiff. In fairness, if we come 2nd Wham do deserve to go up via the playoffs. The table doesnt lie. The playoff rule is b*llsh*t to generate extra revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 We can beat anyone on our day including Blackpool, Birmingham and Cardifff. And, of course, Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 We can beat anyone on our day including Blackpool, Birmingham and Cardifff. And, of course, Coventry. 6 attempts. 1 win. Back in autumn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If we end up third then we play 6th place away first? Who would you prefer Blackpool, Cardiff, Brum or Boro again? Don't worry this is a thread to pass the time as it's ticking too slowly for me. Not going to happen, we'll give Cov a good sendoff by dishing out a right beating at SMS. It's a bit of a phantom game really - neither team will be in the champ next season. Have a little faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Speaking entirely objectively - if we do not beat Coventry on Saturday then we will not get promoted at all. Has any team that finished third ever been promoted? And Psychologically, having passed up several opportunities to make promotion safe and failed to do so, I don't think it would matter who we play. So COYR ON SATURDAY. 9 times out of 24 in the Championship (or its equivalent). There was some discussion on this on another thread. 3 out of 8 or 37.5%. But that is an overall figure that does not take into account the psychological effect of leading all season and falling back at the last hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If we end up third then we play 6th place away first? Who would you prefer Blackpool, Cardiff, Brum or Boro again? Don't worry this is a thread to pass the time as it's ticking too slowly for me. Heresy Burn him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 6 attempts. 1 win. Back in autumn. Lucky that we wouldn't have to win any of the games then really ? 3 draws, with a win on away goals (after extra time) and penalties at Wembley would achieve the same end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 9 times out of 24 in the Championship (or its equivalent). There was some discussion on this on another thread. 3 out of 8 or 37.5%. But that is an overall figure that does not take into account the psychological effect of leading all season and falling back at the last hurdle. Clearly it does take into consideration "finishing third" though, and all of the various methods of ending up there. As already noted, 37.5% is better than 1/3 in a four horse race, which is pretty good going for a double-header against 6th and then a neutral match against 4th or 5th. It's not as good as the odds of 100% which we can get by beating a team in the relegation zone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Lucky that we wouldn't have to win any of the games then really ? 3 draws, with a win on away goals (after extra time) and penalties at Wembley would achieve the same end. Did you learn nothing from Derby? There is no "away-goal rule" for the playoffs. Penalties where Lambert will score one and the rest of our team who've had no practice whatsoever would all miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 On our day we can beat anyone over 2 games! Do not fancy going back to Middlesboroughso soon after thinking we were going up when we played them on Saturday! Would prefer Cardiff and then Birmingham in the final! Saying this we will win on Saturday......if we cannot beat Coventry and home I will question how we plan on beating the other playoff teams!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Whilst I wouldn't write off our chances in the play-offs completely I'd be very uneasy about them. Our players look tired both physically and mentally.We have a large'ish squad but few actual players of a sufficient level just now. Failure to achieve promotion directly now would be a massive blow to them all and I doubt that we'd recover from that by a week tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Lucky that we wouldn't have to win any of the games then really ? 3 draws, with a win on away goals (after extra time) and penalties at Wembley would achieve the same end. I know the stress is getting to some of us but this is just plain ga-ga.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Lucky that we wouldn't have to win any of the games then really ? 3 draws, with a win on away goals (after extra time) and penalties at Wembley would achieve the same end. Is this new?? I don't think away goals count in the playoffs. They certainly didn't at Pride Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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