paulwantsapint Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Probably posted elsewhere But is it likely that sat will be the highest ever attendance at SMS or will there be large gaps in away end due to badly placed Coventry fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Yes......or possibly no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Probably posted elsewhere But is it likely that sat will be the highest ever attendance at SMS or will there be large gaps in away end due to badly placed Coventry fans Many will indeed be sat, but some may, of course, be standing ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 How many are Coventry bringing down ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Wasn't Matt's testimonial supposed to have been a record, what with no segregation and everything? How was the England Macedonia match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Probably posted elsewhere But is it likely that sat will be the highest ever attendance at SMS or will there be large gaps in away end due to badly placed Coventry fans Aren't there 6,000 or so this week who are skint, have surprise birthday parties to go to, not bothering because it's on telly, put off by the early kick off, the weather forecast is bad, there is a tube strike, the A27 was shut today, got holidays to pay for, it's bank holiday in 2 weeks time, missus has arranged for themto do something else etc etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Aren't there 6,000 or so this week who are skint, have surprise birthday parties to go to, not bothering because it's on telly, put off by the early kick off, the weather forecast is bad, there is a tube strike, the A27 was shut today, got holidays to pay for, it's bank holiday in 2 weeks time, missus has arranged for themto do something else etc etc? Criticised when they don't turn up, criticised when they do! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Criticised when they don't turn up, criticised when they do! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring. Unless I'm much mistaken the recession is still on, people are still skint, petrol prices are still high, the game is on telly, there is a still a booking fee, public transport is still crap and people still have birthdays and their birds ordering them about. They are all excuses I've heard as to why people can't make it this season. All of a sudden this doesn't seem to be the case, funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Unless I'm much mistaken the recession is still on, people are still skint, petrol prices are still high, the game is on telly, there is a still a booking fee, public transport is still crap and people still have birthdays and their birds ordering them about. They are all excuses I've heard as to why people can't make it this season. All of a sudden this doesn't seem to be the case, funny that. no no, it's still the case that those people can't make it. This is 6,000 new supporters . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Unless I'm much mistaken the recession is still on, people are still skint, petrol prices are still high, the game is on telly, there is a still a booking fee, public transport is still crap and people still have birthdays and their birds ordering them about. They are all excuses I've heard as to why people can't make it this season. All of a sudden this doesn't seem to be the case, funny that. Are you really struggling to understand why some people, who normally only go to a few games a season, are making a special effort to be at this game? Or is this just one of those "look at me, I'm Turkish and I'm being funny and controversial" jokes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emerson massey Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Are you really struggling to understand why some people, who normally only go to a few games a season, are making a special effort to be at this game? Or is this just one of those "look at me, I'm Turkish and I'm being funny and controversial" jokes? ....? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Unless I'm much mistaken the recession is still on, people are still skint, petrol prices are still high, the game is on telly, there is a still a booking fee, public transport is still crap and people still have birthdays and their birds ordering them about. They are all excuses I've heard as to why people can't make it this season. All of a sudden this doesn't seem to be the case, funny that. Quite common that a lot of fans pick and choose games. They are more likely to choose the more important "I was there" games. I have plenty of friends that will do 8-10 games a season. They were not there for Barnsleys visit, but they will be there Saturday. I find it hard to believe you don't see that, and just looking for a reaction. I can't wait to see more super fans waving their STs at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Quite common that a lot of fans pick and choose games. They are more likely to choose the more important "I was there" games. I have plenty of friends that will do 8-10 games a season. They were not there for Barnsleys visit, but they will be there Saturday. I find it hard to believe you don't see that, and just looking for a reaction. I can't wait to see more super fans waving their STs at me. We had 55,000 at Wembley two years go for what in reality was little More than a glorified friendly. We are regularly told on here we need bigger stadium, this is such an amazing time to be a saints fan, what great football we are playing and half of our squad ahould be in the England team. Yet that doesn't seem to be reflected in the attendances does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 Aren't there 6,000 or so this week who are skint, have surprise birthday parties to go to, not bothering because it's on telly, put off by the early kick off, the weather forecast is bad, there is a tube strike, the A27 was shut today, got holidays to pay for, it's bank holiday in 2 weeks time, missus has arranged for themto do something else etc etc? Yes, but they've been replaced by the 6,000 who were doing one of those things last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 April, 2012 Share Posted 24 April, 2012 We had 55,000 at Wembley two years go for what in reality was little More than a glorified friendly. We are regularly told on here we need bigger stadium, this is such an amazing time to be a saints fan, what great football we are playing and half of our squad ahould be in the England team. Yet that doesn't seem to be reflected in the attendances does it. It will be interesting to see what happens to attendances next season, whichever division we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Between 1999-2004/5 season it was rare you saw any empty seats in the prem games at all clubs, wth just the 'minor' games have a few gaps - NOw yu see gaps at all clubs - someties large - combination of a couple of things realy, ticket prices high during a recession and alot of folk strating to be a bit disillusioned with the way the game is so dominated by cash IMHO. I still remember what is probably or highest unofficial SMS gate in that last minute organied friendly against Bayern Munich when they let folk stand on te steps and around the pitch - must have been clser to 33K in all. What w ehave to realise is that (although some seem to think its 'bad') is that there are many fans who enjoy going with their kids, old man etc andso its not just paying for your own ticket, but 2, 3 or 4 - or who do you leave at home? So its can easily be a £100+ just for tickets for a home game -so I would say a 25-26k average in the second tier is pretty respectable. ...and Wembley in a final is always special now matter what teh comp so folk save and make sacrafices elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Aren't there 6,000 or so this week who are skint, have surprise birthday parties to go to, not bothering because it's on telly, put off by the early kick off, the weather forecast is bad, there is a tube strike, the A27 was shut today, got holidays to pay for, it's bank holiday in 2 weeks time, missus has arranged for themto do something else etc etc? Yep all those things are true so it's hardly a surprise that people who only go to a few matches a season would pick this one over say posh away ot ipswich at home is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Yep all those things are true so it's hardly a surprise that people who only go to a few matches a season would pick this one over say posh away ot ipswich at home is it? It would seem we've got over 30000 that only go to a few games a season. It's very surprising that as this is supposedly such a great time to be a Saints fan and a team full of shouldbe international players more Of these don't bother most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 It would seem we've got over 30000 that only go to a few games a season. It's very surprising that as this is supposedly such a great time to be a Saints fan and a team full of shouldbe international players more Of these don't bother most of the time. What is your point? You talk about people making "excuses". I was unaware we were compelled to go to every game and had to bring a note from our parents if we didn't. I don't go to every game. I've been to most home games this season and one away (Palace in the cup). Sometimes I have other things to do. Watching Saints is just one part of my life, albeit a quite important part. That doesn't mean I don't want Saints to succeed and it doesn't mean I don't want to witness their final moment of triumph on Saturday. This may, in your view, make me less of a fan than you. Somehow, I'll try to live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 It would seem we've got over 30000 that only go to a few games a season. It's very surprising that as this is supposedly such a great time to be a Saints fan and a team full of shouldbe international players more Of these don't bother most of the time. Maybe but is that any different to every other club in the country? It would be nice to see a packed SMS every game, all those wigs and foam hands would be a glorious sight to behold, but it probably won't happen some games just don't turn people on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Think there will be a lot of saints fan in the Coventry end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I hope Nicola makes it season ticket holders only next season, this has gone on for long enough. People who attend only when it suits are scum and if they dont like it they can go support Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 What is your point? You talk about people making "excuses". I was unaware we were compelled to go to every game and had to bring a note from our parents if we didn't. I don't go to every game. I've been to most home games this season and one away (Palace in the cup). Sometimes I have other things to do. Watching Saints is just one part of my life, albeit a quite important part. That doesn't mean I don't want Saints to succeed and it doesn't mean I don't want to witness their final moment of triumph on Saturday. This may, in your view, make me less of a fan than you. Somehow, I'll try to live with that. It seems you are one of the 30,000+ then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 (edited) Maybe but is that any different to every other club in the country? It would be nice to see a packed SMS every game, all those wigs and foam hands would be a glorious sight to behold, but it probably won't happen some games just don't turn people on. But for other clubs in the country this isn't supposed to be the best time in their life to support Saints. For other clubs in the country aren't banging on about needing a bigger stadium when they cant fill the one they've got regularly. Other clubs in the country they aren't claiming to be on an unstoppable march to the champions league with a team of academy graduates. We aren't any other club in the country. As itchen says there are plenty of reasons why people cant make games, i just wonder why they dont apply when there is a chance of glory and will no doubt disapear next season when we are in the premier league playing Man United and City. Edited 25 April, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Doubt it will be a sell out as Coventry has not sold all their tickets and have returned some. Hoof Ham sold out their entire allocation as we did, as well as corporate seating hence the record attendance against Hoof Ham. My Guess would be around 31,800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 It's very surprising No its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If you do not understand that the things that get in the way of attending football matches are less of an issue for big games you are one of two things. Either on the wind up or a complete idiot, either way no real point in trying to reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 If you do not understand that the things that get in the way of attending football matches are less of an issue for big games you are one of two things. Either on the wind up or a complete idiot, either way no real point in trying to reason So what defines a "big game"? Is it who the opposition are? Like the clamour for tickets everytime we play Man United for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 So what defines a "big game"? Is it who the opposition are? Like the clamour for tickets everytime we play Man United for example? You know that's the truth a big match is defined by the occassion (ie promotion) or the oppostion (ie Man U). Some people are more interested in the oppostion than saints. That's what the "we need a 46,000 seater staduim" crowd are banking on that lots of fans who weren't bothered about watching saints vs burnely will be falling over themselves to get tickets when Chelsea come to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 You know that's the truth a big match is defined by the occassion (ie promotion) or the oppostion (ie Man U). Some people are more interested in the oppostion than saints. That's what the "we need a 46,000 seater staduim" crowd are banking on that lots of fans who weren't bothered about watching saints vs burnely will be falling over themselves to get tickets when Chelsea come to town. So they are going to see the opposition and not Saints, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 It seems you are one of the 30,000+ then. Perhaps he just has a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 So they are going to see the opposition and not Saints, yes? Of course they are, up to a point, if you've got the money to spend on one game (and one game only) who would you rather watch saints play Chesterfieid or Man Utd? There are some that won't care but a lot who will. You pays your money you takes your choice unless your well off enough to be able to go to every single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Perhaps he just has a life. So loyal fans dont have a life, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Nobody will turn up at all if the weather stays like it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 As per usual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 There was a survey a couple of years back about people's support for league football teams up and down the country, it included Scotland too. Pretty certain we were in the Championship at the time and we came out as the 17th. Add this finding to the unofficial 55,000 Saints fans who rocked up to the JPT final and those who missed out, the fact that there will be times when the 32k+ seats at Saint Mary's will not be enough for key games is no surprise. Just amazing that everytime we get big gates and surge for ticket demand a full on debate takes place on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 What is your point? You talk about people making "excuses". I was unaware we were compelled to go to every game and had to bring a note from our parents if we didn't. I don't go to every game. I've been to most home games this season and one away (Palace in the cup). Sometimes I have other things to do. Watching Saints is just one part of my life, albeit a quite important part. That doesn't mean I don't want Saints to succeed and it doesn't mean I don't want to witness their final moment of triumph on Saturday. This may, in your view, make me less of a fan than you. Somehow, I'll try to live with that. Well said. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I'm not going, Coventry is not really a glamour game, with them being relegated n'all and no decent players in their team. Save my money for a top team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 There was a survey a couple of years back about people's support for league football teams up and down the country, it included Scotland too. Pretty certain we were in the Championship at the time and we came out as the 17th. Add this finding to the unofficial 55,000 Saints fans who rocked up to the JPT final and those who missed out, the fact that there will be times when the 32k+ seats at Saint Mary's will not be enough for key games is no surprise. Just amazing that everytime we get big gates and surge for ticket demand a full on debate takes place on here. Doesn't this highlight how disapointing attendances have been this season though? 17th best supported club in Britain yet only a 2/3's full ground most of this season when it's the greatest time in most of our lives to be a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I'm sure we have loads of fans that only go to 5/10 games a season. Why are you criticising them that they want to be there for this massive game? At the end of the day if money is tight and have other things to pay for in life then there is only so many games you can go to...and this will be chosen due to the size of the game. This is huge. Maybe Turkish, you are just loaded or incredibly lucky that you can go to every game throughout the season...or maybe you're just a keyboard warrior that doesn't actually go to games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Still dont understand why we need such a large segregation area in the Northam especially for a game like this. They could of reduced the netting size as stewards and coppers stand there anyway which would release a fair few extra seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I'm sure we have loads of fans that only go to 5/10 games a season. Why are you criticising them that they want to be there for this massive game? At the end of the day if money is tight and have other things to pay for in life then there is only so many games you can go to...and this will be chosen due to the size of the game. This is huge. Maybe Turkish, you are just loaded or incredibly lucky that you can go to every game throughout the season...or maybe you're just a keyboard warrior that doesn't actually go to games. In league one our average was about 21,000, that is what i would say is our proper fan base that are loyal, loaded or incredilby lucky as you put it. Therefore if the exra 34,000 that went to Wembley all went to an average of 5 games each our attendance should still be around the 30k mark on average. Considering this is such a great time to be a Saints fan i cant for the life of me think why we cant get to this figure and above every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Tbh if your skint (AKA a large percentage of football fans at the moment) and could only afford to go to one game all season then you will go to one of the bigger games (Wham at home for example). I'm lucky enough to have a season ticket anyway so who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 Still dont understand why we need such a large segregation area in the Northam especially for a game like this. They could of reduced the netting size as stewards and coppers stand there anyway which would release a fair few extra seats. For most games this season we could have had a segregation area of 5,000 seats, it wouldn't have made any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 bore off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I go to whatever games I can, and I'm sure there are plenty of others that do the same that cannot go every week. Although I agree that I think our attendances should be better than they have been this season, there are plenty of fans who don't live in Southampton, so it becomes horribly expensive and just not viable for plenty of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 I hope Nicola makes it season ticket holders only next season, this has gone on for long enough. People who attend only when it suits are scum and if they dont like it they can go support Pompey. I take it you managed to get a ticket for this game then rodent lover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 For most games this season we could have had a segregation area of 5,000 seats, it wouldn't have made any difference. Yes but by reducing that segregation releasing approx 100 or so extra tickets would kerb any need for stadium expansion surerly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 25 April, 2012 Share Posted 25 April, 2012 In league one our average was about 21,000, that is what i would say is our proper fan base that are loyal, loaded or incredilby lucky as you put it. Therefore if the exra 34,000 that went to Wembley all went to an average of 5 games each our attendance should still be around the 30k mark on average. Considering this is such a great time to be a Saints fan i cant for the life of me think why we cant get to this figure and above every week. That's patently nonsense. I reckon your numbers are probably about right in terms of hard core fans and floating fans, however the floating 34,000 will not distribute their attendences evenly across each game of the season. That's why when only 4K of them decide to come and see Barnsley we end up with a relatively low crowd, but when more than 12K of them want to come we have threads on here and conversations in pubs about people looking for tickets when games are 'sold out'. It's obvious to everyone else on this thread but you are just on a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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