Belsey23 Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 We draw 1-1 West Ham win 3-0 Pos Name P W D L F A GD PTS 2 Southampton 46 25 11 10 82 47 35 86 3 West Ham Utd 46 24 14 8 82 47 31 86 Would we go up because we beat them at SMS then drew at their place? Sure there's many more scary permutations!
beatlesaint Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 West Ham have to win by 4 goals if we draw as i understand it.
S-Clarke Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 West Ham have to win by 4 goals if we draw as i understand it. If we score draw. If it's 0-0 3-0 will be enough for them.
Belsey23 Posted 23 April, 2012 Author Posted 23 April, 2012 So if points are equal it goes down to GD... If GD is equal it goes down to goals scored... If goals scored are equal it goes down to the results between the two teams?
beatlesaint Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 So if points are equal it goes down to GD... If GD is equal it goes down to goals scored... If goals scored are equal it goes down to the results between the two teams? Yes.
SaintAndy14 Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 We would have won 1 more game than them - would that come into it??
Kingsland Red Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 not so: If Southampton draw on the final day and West Ham win but score four more goals than the Saints, their records would be identical. This would bring about a special play-off, in which the winner would secure promotion while the loser would enter the regular play-offs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17724582
saint si Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 Rule 9.2 http://www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20110629/section-3-the-league_2293633_2125717 Goes to head to head record.
Cestrian Saint Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 not so: If Southampton draw on the final day and West Ham win but score four more goals than the Saints, their records would be identical. This would bring about a special play-off, in which the winner would secure promotion while the loser would enter the regular play-offs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17724582 Well we're ****ed if we have to play that game and we're ****ed if we end up in the play offs. All games will be televised so we stand no chance.
kpturner Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 We would have won 1 more game than them - would that come into it??No - HTH
rocknrollman no2 Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 Theres going to be a lot of people checking radios and phones during the game. As this is the case,please nobody start any false rumours. My nerves cant take much more!!!
kpturner Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 not so: If Southampton draw on the final day and West Ham win but score four more goals than the Saints, their records would be identical. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17724582 Something is wrong with your maths if you ask me. If we draw and they win but score four more goals than us, how does that mean our records are identical? They are 3 behind on GD and 2 behind on GS. So if we draw 0-0 a 3-0 win for them sees them up on GS. If they win 3-0 and we draw 1-1, we go up on head to head. If they win 3-0 and we draw 2-2, we go up on GS etc etc
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 not so: If Southampton draw on the final day and West Ham win but score four more goals than the Saints, their records would be identical. This would bring about a special play-off, in which the winner would secure promotion while the loser would enter the regular play-offs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17724582 That's wrong in two respects.
kelkel31 Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 so if we draw 0v0 and wham win 3v0 they are second, if they only win by +3 they have to score any extra goal for every one we have scored i.e 1v1 needs a 4v1 win, 2v2 - 5v2 etc if we draw then any wham win by +4 its all over for us **** this could get mental!!!!
saintchrissy Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 9.2 If two or more Clubs have the same number of points, goal difference and goals scored the highest placed Club shall be determined by the respective League records against each other, taking into account in order of precedence, points gained, goal difference and goals scored. If the above procedures do not separate the Clubs, then the Clubs concerned shall play off a deciding League Match or Matches under arrangements approved by the Board on a neutral ground. The net gate money after deducting the usual match expenses shall be equally divided between the two competing Clubs. Any Club staging such a play off match shall be entitled to charge as an expense against the receipts of the match 10% of the gross gate receipts after deduction of Value Added Tax. In the event of such a match being arranged by the Board to be played on the ground of a Club which is not a member of The League, then a similar charge as an expense against the receipts of the match shall be paid by The League who shall otherwise be responsible for the financial arrangements made with the Club staging the match. These provisions shall determine the ranking of Clubs in their respective Divisions. in case anyone wants to know it in full the rule
SaintBobby Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 Yep. I shoved it all up on a separate thread called "the maths for Saturday". Didn't ask a question e.g. "what if one game is cancelled owing to an electrical storm?"
St Chalet Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 I will have my Sales Analyst work out an excel ready reckoner for Saturday.
dubai_phil Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 I will have my Sales Analyst work out an excel ready reckoner for Saturday. Hurry up I may have to fly Thursday if the waiting gets too much
Jimmy_D Posted 23 April, 2012 Posted 23 April, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?37467-The-maths-for-Saturday
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