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Thedelldays

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That is our only danger - complacency.

 

No game is a gimme. Not for Goliath, not for us.

 

Go out. Do the job professionally. Take no chances. Take no liberties. Do the job as you have for most of the season. As we did against Peterborough and Palace.

 

The players won't be complacent

But this is as good a gimme we could get in the NPC

 

imagine the saints team that got relegated from this league (who were probably better than this cov team that will play sat) and going to the saints of 2009.

 

Yep, we would have no chance

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obelisk

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Cov have one hope IMO and that is if we have someone sent off resulting in a Pen.

If not even if they score I can't see us not scoring at least twice.

I woke up in the night after dreaming that we had Kelvin sent off early on. Penalty! No idea what happened after that. Probably essential that we keep 11 on the pitch even though I'm sure we could beat them with 10.
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MbaleSaint

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A negative outlook on the situation doesn't equal a 'plastic' fan. Just think we've had chance after chance V Pompey, V Reading, V Blackpool, V Bristol City twice to make it easy on ourselves and walk this league, and every time we haven't shown the guile required to compete under pressure.

 

I've got a ticket for Saturday, and will be travelling straight down from Heathrow after my flight back from Vegas :)

 

And the 25 games we have won? Were they all flukes or was it because the opposition bottled it?

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richie

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Every single person going on sat and that includes me must stay with the team. No negativity or nerves towards the team.

 

Sing your hearts out, scream, shout for 90 mins -this is one of our most important games for several years. The players need us and we must deliver for them.

 

They need a wall of noise when they come out and for the whole 90.

 

This is our club and we are all desperate for it to be back in the PL - make sure you do your bit on sat.

 

Up the saints

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austsaint

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Me too. Puncheon to play the first 60/70 and then unleash SDR for final 20-30 mins. We have the weapons, let's use them.

 

I would go this way too - Morgan and Cork in the middle; Adam on the left.....Guly on the bench: give Hammond a run out if we're comfortable in the second half... I'd stick with Jos and Jose, bring Richardson in. It's got to be an attacking mindset from the off.

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.comsaint

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Saturday is nothing other than a huge cup final to us - a one-off massive game.

 

Strangely - it's bigger than the Champions League final for us - financially wise - and only Coventry stand in our way... ... not Barca or Man United or AC Milan!

 

A lot of our current players handled Wembley well in the JPT final. I know back then was a world away from the level we're at today - but I feel confident that

we will do what's required - by beating Coventry fairly comfortably in the end & we can all have a great weekend and look forward to a big adventure next season.

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S-Clarke

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Saturday is nothing other than a huge cup final to us - a one-off massive game.

 

Strangely - it's bigger than the Champions League final for us - financially wise - and only Coventry stand in our way... ... not Barca or Man United or AC Milan!

 

A lot of our current players handled Wembley well in the JPT final. I know back then was a world away from the level we're at today - but I feel confident that

we will do what's required - by beating Coventry fairly comfortably in the end & we can all have a great weekend and look forward to a big adventure next season.

 

It's a huge playoff final really, winner takes all. Our biggest game for decades.

 

This will be our best chance to get into the premier league for a long, long, long time and we need to grab it with both hands.

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.comsaint

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It's a huge playoff final really, winner takes all. Our biggest game for decades.

 

This will be our best chance to get into the premier league for a long, long, long time and we need to grab it with both hands.

 

and it could be live on BBC1 :

 

http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/southampton_v_city_on_tv_741401/index.shtml

 

 

* edit : confirmed live on BBC1.

 

That's us b_uggered then!

 

;-)

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Dig Dig

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Fonte has been average all season, but very poor over the last month or so.

 

Wouldn't agree that he's been average all season. He's had some very very solid games, perhaps not as dominant as last season granted.

 

He's made a couple of mistakes lately but you don't ditch your main CB for pulling a shirt and giving a free kick away or for 1 dodgey header back to the keeper.

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S-Clarke

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Wouldn't agree that he's been average all season. He's had some very very solid games, perhaps not as dominant as last season granted.

 

He's made a couple of mistakes lately but you don't ditch your main CB for pulling a shirt and giving a free kick away or for 1 dodgey header back to the keeper.

 

I think after seeing him just coast through games for 18 months, it comes as a bit of a shock to see him struggle - but he's not up against John Macken anymore, he's up against Maynard, Cole, Beckford etc...a complete step up, so he was never going to look as good as he had for the past 18 months.

 

He's still been one of the reasons we've amassed 19 clean sheets though.

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Saint Charlie

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Fonte was voted MoM at Palace only a couple of weeks ago.

 

Its easy to remeber just the poor games.

 

Also...anyone suggesting Puncheon might play and Guly on the bench - what are you on?

 

Pretty obvious Adkins will pick Guly, who has featured regularly over the whole season...right call.

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Window Cleaner

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Fonte was voted MoM at Palace only a couple of weeks ago.

 

Its easy to remeber just the poor games.

 

Against his old club, my what a surprise.Fonte is a decent player but he's been hugging and holding on the sly ever since he's been here.Only needs a ref who thinks/knows that that's foul play for him to give away free kicks and penalties.

Unless he can adjust his game to cut that out completely he has no future in the PL.

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FarehamRed

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I would play a "wild card" in this game - someone that on one expects who can go on and play without nerves and give us something different. Step forward Falque. Has the ability, and Coventry will not be able to handle him - nor will they have a plan for him.

 

As long as we play the game and not the occation, we'll be fine.

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dubai_phil

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A negative outlook on the situation doesn't equal a 'plastic' fan. Just think we've had chance after chance V Pompey, V Reading, V Blackpool, V Bristol City twice to make it easy on ourselves and walk this league, and every time we haven't shown the guile required to compete under pressure.

 

I've got a ticket for Saturday, and will be travelling straight down from Heathrow after my flight back from Vegas :)

 

OK you win the longest journey award so far ;)

 

Anyone else coming a long way?

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Saint Charlie

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I would play a "wild card" in this game - someone that on one expects who can go on and play without nerves and give us something different. Step forward Falque. Has the ability, and Coventry will not be able to handle him - nor will they have a plan for him.

 

As long as we play the game and not the occation, we'll be fine.

 

We have the best home record in the league - we don't need a wildcard! We just need the players who have won the vast majority of the home games this season to win another one, against the bottom side in the league.

 

Now isn't the time for messing around with the team. It should be this, or as near to as possible:

 

-------------------Davis--------------------

 

Richardson------Fonte-----Hooiveld-------Fox

 

 

Guly----------Cork--------Schneiderlin------Lallana

 

 

--------------Lambert-----------Sharp---------------

 

Subs: Bart, Martin, Hammond, De Ridder, Barnard

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Legod Third Coming

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We have the best home record in the league - we don't need a wildcard! We just need the players who have won the vast majority of the home games this season to win another one, against the bottom side in the league.

 

Now isn't the time for messing around with the team. It should be this, or as near to as possible:

 

-------------------Davis--------------------

 

Richardson------Fonte-----Hooiveld-------Fox

 

 

Guly----------Cork--------Schneiderlin------Lallana

 

 

--------------Lambert-----------Sharp---------------

 

Subs: Bart, Martin, Hammond, De Ridder, Barnard

 

Without Chaplow that is the starting eleven. With Chaplow, Hammond in for Morgan would be a call.

But without Chaplow, Morgan is our most effective midfielder at moving the ball forward.

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Charlie Wayman

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Nice Summary and shows how far in our favour it is:

 

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=126195

 

I imagine their support is going through the same anguish as we Saints fans. Somebody 'though is going to be mighty disappointed on Saturday night.

 

It seems to me that West Ham are better equipped to deal with the play-offs than Saints in my view so should we succeed on Saturday it's a pretty safe bet that they'll join us in the PL. One must be less confident of the alternative scenario.

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I imagine their support is going through the same anguish as we Saints fans. Somebody 'though is going to be mighty disappointed on Saturday night.

 

It seems to me that West Ham are better equipped to deal with the play-offs than Saints in my view so should we succeed on Saturday it's a pretty safe bet that they'll join us in the PL. One must be less confident of the alternative scenario.

 

Fair comment - they have mentally prepped for playoffs and auto is a bonus. What would hurt them is if we lose and they only draw or lose!

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Fair comment - they have mentally prepped for playoffs and auto is a bonus. What would hurt them is if we lose and they only draw or lose!

 

West Ham's fans may well actually believe they are capable of winning the play-offs as well.Don't know if I'd be that confident about Saints in the play-offs though.We may well turn up trumps but a lot of our players look pretty sh@gged out and we've nothing much in reserve to fall back on.

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Legod Third Coming

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Why do the games we didn't win show we can't compete under pressure, but the games we have won don't show we can? Very selective logic. You don't remain top 2 all season without competing under pressure. And 99% of teams don't get promoted without plenty of slip ups.

 

All the games you mentioned weren't must win. All dropped points are frustrating but that's football. Even Reading wasn't the decider everyone thought, because they slipped themselves and handed us the chance back. The only decisive blow was Boro, throwing the title away so that's the game I'll remain gutted about. In terms of promotion, no dropped points matter now as it's a 1 game win and go up scenario. What's the point thinking 'if only we'd won game A, B or C'. Good teams win when they absolutely have to, and we'll win this one.

 

I must be remembering things wrong, but I'm sure people said they'd be delighted with playoffs last summer, some even less. Plenty said we could get promoted too, but at what point did people start demanding easy promotion? It's a long hard fight for the top 2 every season and saints have put themselves in a position where they could allow for erratic form late on. Many others would have fallen away but we haven't despite every setback, we've kept going, bounced back and kept getting enough points. Coventry aren't about to change that.

 

This is right. No team has won every game.

 

As it stands, Reading have won 27 games, we have won 25 and West Ham 23.

 

After Saturday, if we go up, the two best teams in the league on wins will have been promoted. That's it.

 

To say we should have won this or that game is immaterial. I would love us to have won all them. We didn't. Some we deserved to and didn't (Reading) some we didn't deserve to and did (Leeds) and some were unlucky (Pompey) and could have gone another way within a hair's breadth of luck.

 

Over the season, if we go up, we'll have deserved it.

 

It isn't stumbling across the line or undeserved, it's sport. When I look in my Rothman's Almanac it doesn't say that England got lucky with a Jonny Wilkinson dropped goal, it say World Cup Winners...

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It's a huge playoff final really, winner takes all. Our biggest game for decades.

 

This will be our best chance to get into the premier league for a long, long, long time and we need to grab it with both hands.

 

100% agree:

 

The lads must be professional, positive, courageous but patient and we the fans must be 100% supportive for the entire match..

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It's a huge playoff final really, winner takes all. Our biggest game for decades.

 

This will be our best chance to get into the premier league for a long, long, long time and we need to grab it with both hands.

 

Unless the winner is coventry ...were they don't really get anything. Quite frankly if our boys aren't pumped up to win this game, against one of the worst sides in the championship that we've beaten twice already,...then they don't deserve promotion.

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For me this situation has smacks of last year with Huddersfield.

 

They needed a massive win to overturn goal difference and had to go all out from the off. West ham fans seem to think them winning is a done-deal, but Huddersfield were so attack-minded that they ended up shipping 4 at the wrong end and drawing at home to Brentford.

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S-Clarke

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For me this situation has smacks of last year with Huddersfield.

 

They needed a massive win to overturn goal difference and had to go all out from the off. West ham fans seem to think them winning is a done-deal, but Huddersfield were so attack-minded that they ended up shipping 4 at the wrong end and drawing at home to Brentford.

 

I remember that, but in reality it was all over on the final day. There was never ever going to be an 18 or 19 goal swing, and I think they actually rested a few of their players iirc.

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Legod Third Coming

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Unless the winner is coventry ...were they don't really get anything. Quite frankly if our boys aren't pumped up to win this game, against one of the worst sides in the championship that we've beaten twice already,...then they don't deserve promotion.

 

This a nonsense statement.

 

They will be but it doesn't mean that we will win does it?

 

Since Nigel Adkins took over this team (in fact since Pardew took it over) I haven't once seen a side take the field and not look to win the game.

 

We haven't won them all, but not for want of trying. We've made mistakes (people do), we've been unlucky (it happens), we've been tactically or professionally deficient in some areas (other teams also have good managers and good players) and occasionally, like Saturday, we have been outplayed.

 

But let me re-iterate, not once in two seasons have I come away from a game questioning the team's attitude or conviction.

 

So why the hell would they not be 'pumped' (whatever that really means) for the biggest game of all their careers??

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I woke up in the night after dreaming that we had Kelvin sent off early on. Penalty! No idea what happened after that. Probably essential that we keep 11 on the pitch even though I'm sure we could beat them with 10.

 

We must have Bart on bench on Saturday. Too much at stake.

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Still too much "we will win this guaranteed" stuff and I hate it. Please remember we lost to Donnie at theirs and Bristol city did the double offer us and they were all in the bottom three then, Portsmouth drew twice.

 

So NOTHING is a given and if we choke and miss the amount of attempts we have recently then we could be finding ourselves in the lottery. I don't want to hear about but cov are already relegated, how man time have we seen teams that have had their destiny confirmed come out and perform out of their skins?

 

I want to be confident and probably in m heart of hearts I am, but...............there is this niggling feeling that it won't go our way.

 

If we fail could cortese see that as massive failure Concidering where have been ALL season and decide to make a managerial change?

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Sour Mash

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West Ham's fans may well actually believe they are capable of winning the play-offs as well.Don't know if I'd be that confident about Saints in the play-offs though.We may well turn up trumps but a lot of our players look pretty sh@gged out and we've nothing much in reserve to fall back on.
They should be confident, they'd be much better than anyone else in the play offs.
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Still too much "we will win this guaranteed" stuff and I hate it. Please remember we lost to Donnie at theirs and Bristol city did the double offer us and they were all in the bottom three then, Portsmouth drew twice.

 

So NOTHING is a given and if we choke and miss the amount of attempts we have recently then we could be finding ourselves in the lottery. I don't want to hear about but cov are already relegated, how man time have we seen teams that have had their destiny confirmed come out and perform out of their skins?

 

I want to be confident and probably in m heart of hearts I am, but...............there is this niggling feeling that it won't go our way.

 

If we fail could cortese see that as massive failure Concidering where have been ALL season and decide to make a managerial change?

There is absolutely NO POINT in taking such a negative attitude with one game to go with everything in our favour. No point at all. Put your positive head on and save yourself from a depressing weeks wait!
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S-Clarke

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There is absolutely NO POINT in taking such a negative attitude with one game to go with everything in our favour. No point at all. Put your positive head on and save yourself from a depressing weeks wait!

 

This.

 

Everything is in our favour.

 

Points, goals scored, goal difference, head to head, opposition, home record....etc etc.

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This is right. No team has won every game.

 

As it stands, Reading have won 27 games, we have won 25 and West Ham 23.

 

After Saturday, if we go up, the two best teams in the league on wins will have been promoted. That's it.

 

To say we should have won this or that game is immaterial. I would love us to have won all them. We didn't. Some we deserved to and didn't (Reading) some we didn't deserve to and did (Leeds) and some were unlucky (Pompey) and could have gone another way within a hair's breadth of luck.

 

Over the season, if we go up, we'll have deserved it.

 

It isn't stumbling across the line or undeserved, it's sport. When I look in my Rothman's Almanac it doesn't say that England got lucky with a Jonny Wilkinson dropped goal, it say World Cup Winners...

 

agreed to many on here think we should win every game, do not expect the opposition to try.

analyse the games we lost and say what if but forget that every team in the league can say "if only" or " if we had taken our chances"

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Thedelldays

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[h=3]Coventry City[/h]

  • 01 Murphy
  • 02 Keogh Dismissed
  • 03 Hussey
  • 15 Cranie
  • 26 Clarke
  • 16 Norwood
  • 32 Thomas (Baker - 68' )
  • 34 Bigirimana
  • 11 McSheffrey
  • 14 McDonald
  • 22 Platt

[h=4]Substitutes[/h]

  • 13 Dunn
  • 37 Willis
  • 08 Baker
  • 38 Roberts
  • 27 Jeffers

cov team against donny....

 

 

WHO..?

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Foxstone

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cov team against donny....

 

 

WHO..?

 

Not many household names on there, but dismiss McSheffrey at our peril, Platt is a great big lump of a man who if given any areal service could cause problems and Norwood is decent.

 

While there is nothing there that we cannot deal with, we must not disregard them lightly or treat them with dis-respect.

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