Cestrian Saint Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 I've been convinced that we'd **** this up for quite some time and part of me still thinks we're not going up automatically. My pessimisim comes from years of being let down by Saints. This games got a draw written all over it, by which time WHU will have won both of their remaining fixtures convincingly. Cov have nothing to play for so the pressure will be off and they'll probably put in one of their best performances of the season. We seem to struggle under pressure. I can see us conceeding early, playing them off the park, wasting numerous chances and managing to grab an equaliser late on. I'll be more than happy to eat a huge slice of humble pie if we do go up and deep down I'm praying that we will. However, this is Saints that we're talking about. I find it's always good to expect to be disappointed and then anything above that is a massive bonus.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 We will already be up come this game. I have no doubt that West Ham will not win at Leicester. Leicester are good at home. Their last 10 home games. W7 D3 L0 Also we will smash Cov 4-0. Even if we draw, I think we will still go up. If the Hammers dont win we are up even if we lose!
Cestrian Saint Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 Today's result was all too predictable! It was. My £2 bet on 'Boro netted me £3.75 which I've now put on a WHU utd win at Leicester. I'll then put my winnings on a WHU win on the last day and a Saints draw. WHU will go up on GD. ;-)
Dr Who? Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 That has really cheered me up! Thanks Dr Who. No problem. It has been a fantastic season, and it is going to be party prep time come 21:40 on Monday.
Cestrian Saint Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 The job should have been doen weeks ago. Typical Saints. Leave it until the last minute. Start to rely on others slipping up, and make all the fans sweat on the outcome. Why is life as a Saints fn so ****ing frustrating?
Raging Bull Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 We will already be up come this game. I have no doubt that West Ham will not win at Leicester. Leicester are good at home. Their last 10 home games. W7 D3 L0 Also we will smash Cov 4-0. Even if we draw, I think we will still go up. This has some what cheered me up but you just know WH will win now.
Dr Who? Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 If the Hammers dont win we are up even if we lose! What I meant was if West Ham only manage to scrape a 1-2 win at Leicester I think a draw against Cov will still do.... Just. This will not happen as we will be up on Monday night, and today will seem a long time ago and forgotten. What ever happens will will be a premier league club by 14:25 on Saturday!
Raging Bull Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 Right, so Morgan needs to start and we must defend the D properly, maybe its just coincidence that when he doesn't play we concede these howlers.
Dr Who? Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 This has some what cheered me up but you just know WH will win now. Yes that might be the case but I would prefer to see this than W3 D2 L5. It feels me with hope in their last home game. It has a classic 1-1 all over it. It will also follow in the trend of our lat two weeks, downin the dumps Saturday up again on Monday. Down in the dumps Friday Up again Tuesday. Down in the dumps Saturday, up again Monday? This was our spare game, we can beat Cov if needed.
Dr Who? Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 Right, so Morgan needs to start and we must defend the D properly, maybe its just coincidence that when he doesn't play we concede these howlers. I have been thinking about this, and do not think it is that easy to 'just head to the side'. It much easy to get distance on it if you head a ball straight when defending. Little flicks at goal as a striker is an art, but you do not try this in defence, strong heading is the way forward. You see this a lot in football and strikes come in from the edge of the box, but 9 times out of 10 they will fly harmlessly over the bar or be sliced wide. I believe there should have been more pressure on the man making the strike, button all 3 occasions the man on the edge of the box has caught it sweetly. As far as I am concerned, we should have won the last 4 games, and I cannot believe we have lost again today, just like the Reading game. We are going up lads!
Dr Who? Posted 21 April, 2012 Posted 21 April, 2012 The job should have been doen weeks ago. Typical Saints. Leave it until the last minute. Start to rely on others slipping up, and make all the fans sweat on the outcome. Why is life as a Saints fn so ****ing frustrating? We are not relying on others slipping up? Would be nice to have it all wrapped up going into the last game, but if not we will still do the job. Do you not hint West Ham will be saying the same, 'why do we have to slip up all the time'. We are Southampton and we lie to sweat......it is more fun this way, honestly this is what it is all about for me.... Bring on the Cov.
S-Clarke Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 This will be a huge party, and the below-par results of the last few weeks will all be forgotten.
obelisk Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Some time ago I said that Saints, having been in the top two all season, will find themselves dropping to 3rd on the last day of the season. Probably the last minute to make it all so much more dramatic for ****ing Sky, I was joking and had assumed that the title would have been ours by now. I have begun to doubt myself.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Might be up by the time the game is played, a point might do. So many varaibles until after Monday night. Got a feeling its going to be the must win game of all time though.
KK the 2nd Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Change the theme a bit ... What team do you think NA will put out if we are already up? Will he give some of the youngsters and support players a run out or will he play the team that has got us to this point and let them enjoy the day?
Thedelldays Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 This will be a huge party, and the below-par results of the last few weeks will all be forgotten. indeed...and Alpine won't have to make it his life mission to shove saints failures down our throats....
musesaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Gutted about yesterday but getting a better perspective this morning ONE game at home with a packed stadium against a team already relegated "Simple as that" ... as Nigel would say We will win the game comfortably... but if we can't ...we don't deserve to go up
ludgershallsaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Change the theme a bit ... What team do you think NA will put out if we are already up? Will he give some of the youngsters and support players a run out or will he play the team that has got us to this point and let them enjoy the day? I said on another thread that Jaidi will get a farewell appearance and maybe Seabourne will get a game. Maybe a League debut for Stephens?
70's Mike Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 I said on another thread that Jaidi will get a farewell appearance and maybe Seabourne will get a game. Maybe a League debut for Stephens? So you do not want us to go up
SaintRichmond Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 I've been convinced that we'd **** this up for quite some time and part of me still thinks we're not going up automatically. My pessimisim comes from years of being let down by Saints. This games got a draw written all over it, by which time WHU will have won both of their remaining fixtures convincingly. Cov have nothing to play for so the pressure will be off and they'll probably put in one of their best performances of the season. We seem to struggle under pressure. I can see us conceeding early, playing them off the park, wasting numerous chances and managing to grab an equaliser late on. I'll be more than happy to eat a huge slice of humble pie if we do go up and deep down I'm praying that we will. However, this is Saints that we're talking about. I find it's always good to expect to be disappointed and then anything above that is a massive bonus. My opinions are more or less the same as yours. After following Saints for over 50 years, you can never take anything for granted I would sumarise the situation as follows We are 2nd in The CCC We have one game to go, at HOME to Coventry, who are now confirmed as RELEGATED So it's quite simple IMHO IF WE CAN'T BEAT THEM ON OUR OWN PATCH, WE DONT DESERVE TO BE PROMOTED As Adkins has said, it IS in our own hands, irrespective of what WHU do COYR
Raging Bull Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 So you do not want us to go up I think he means if wham don't beat leicester tomorrow.
Danbert Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 We will already be up come this game. I have no doubt that West Ham will not win at Leicester. Leicester are good at home. Their last 10 home games. W7 D3 L0 Also we will smash Cov 4-0. Even if we draw, I think we will still go up. This
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Loss of Chaplow would be a big miss. He is getting back to his best and was superb yesterday (bar his finishing) before the injury. He is the power from midfield pushing on that the team thrives on.
Pilchards Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Coventry to be below par because we have given them two juicy loanees Prowse-Ward & Stephens for next season. Ha ha why not as the Boro ref was corrupted too. Part of me wants a West Ham win on Monday so it will make the game Saturday amazing.
Thedelldays Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 who will be the first to put promotion down to west ham choking and not saints actually being quite good
ludgershallsaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 So you do not want us to go up I was discussing what the team MAY look like IF WH fail to win on Monday
obelisk Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 who will be the first to put promotion down to west ham choking and not saints actually being quite goodMe. West Ham have been choking for weeks. I'm hoping they'll continue to do so. Saints are quite good, that is true, but not quite as good as in the early months of the season. They've also become inconsistent and prone to silly errors which is why I harbour some doubts about their ability to get across the line in 2nd. The odds are they will but it's far from guaranteed.
itchen_dan Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 who will be the first to put promotion down to west ham choking and not saints actually being quite good Exactly what ive been thinking. From a media point of view, so many pundits etc are gonna say that this season is all down to West Ham and Leicester being poor after spending so much and being so big etc and therefore not focusing on just how good ourselves and Reading have been. For 70% of this season, we have been 1st, ok we've slipped away of late and Reading have come on with a superb run but having been in top 2 all season, I just cant see many pundits etc giving us the credit and respect we deserve.
S-Clarke Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 indeed...and Alpine won't have to make it his life mission to shove saints failures down our throats.... I'd imagine we'll hear very little of him. On my way home last night I took a quick look at this forum on my mobile, and I was not surprised to see 'Alpine' as the last reply to a fair few of them. The guy gets off on our failure and I don't get it as I don't actually think he's a ''troll''.
Shroppie Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Loss of Chaplow would be a big miss. He is getting back to his best and was superb yesterday (bar his finishing) before the injury. He is the power from midfield pushing on that the team thrives on. Agree with this. And he's definitely out so I assume we'll start with Guly and De Ridder on the bench. But neither of those will get in the opposition's faces like Chappers does and they're less effective tracking back. Then of course there's Puncheon, but he seems out of the picture again.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 I'd imagine we'll hear very little of him. On my way home last night I took a quick look at this forum on my mobile, and I was not surprised to see 'Alpine' as the last reply to a fair few of them. The guy gets off on our failure and I don't get it as I don't actually think he's a ''troll''. Alpines negative posts force a response and for a drama queen, attention seeking nobody like alpine this forum is his only lifeline!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Agree with this. And he's definitely out so I assume we'll start with Guly and De Ridder on the bench. But neither of those will get in the opposition's faces like Chappers does and they're less effective tracking back. Then of course there's Puncheon, but he seems out of the picture again. Guly should not play in important games
Shroppie Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 To those suggesting we may be in a situation next week when we need just a point, that is impossible - we'll either be already promoted or need a win. If WHU fail to win Mon, we're there. If they get ANY win they'll be 2 pts behind and GD cut to 3 max. So a draw for us isn't enough - we can be overtaken on GD. If they can knock in 6 against Brighton, they can get 4 against Hull.
Shroppie Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Guly should not play in important games But De Ridder hasn't been effective starting, so who do you play?
saint lard Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 who will be the first to put promotion down to west ham choking and not saints actually being quite good Your right,we are only quite good.
Bensfcno1 Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Exactly what ive been thinking. From a media point of view, so many pundits etc are gonna say that this season is all down to West Ham and Leicester being poor after spending so much and being so big etc and therefore not focusing on just how good ourselves and Reading have been. For 70% of this season, we have been 1st, ok we've slipped away of late and Reading have come on with a superb run but having been in top 2 all season, I just cant see many pundits etc giving us the credit and respect we deserve. I don't care what the pundits say, as long as we go up is all that matters! And hope they right us off next year, only to eat their words!
Rasiak-9- Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 We will already be up come this game. I have no doubt that West Ham will not win at Leicester. Leicester are good at home. Their last 10 home games. W7 D3 L0 I like this, I like it a lot.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 But De Ridder hasn't been effective starting, so who do you play? I would give de ridder a chance, how many has he started this season? Failing that try Puncheon?
sammysaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Annoying that i am in the cov end and now there is extra tickets, but still buzzing that il be there and if we win, wait for cov to go home then try and get on the pitch celebrating.
docker-p Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Can everyone with an adult ticket for this game please not wear any fancy dress or paint their fookin faces. I'm sick of our support looking like mongs. Thanks in advance.
Dalek2003 Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 We have simply to hold our nerve. 1. Let us see what happens at Leicester. 2. If we have to win against Cov then let us go to it. 3. If we fail against Cove, then we prepare in a professional way for the play offs ! Should we fail to get promotion, well it is not a disaster. We can build for the next season. We can strengthen our team and squad and try again.
saintant Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Can't believe people are scared of us playing Coventry for a place in the Prem. So who would we want to play then? Some say Coventry will be relaxed as they have nothing to play for. Well, the alternative is to be playing a side who do have an interest left in the season - how would that possible be construed as easier? So assuming we agree we want to be up against a side with nothing left to fight for who better than Coventry a team with a shocking away record, who will be minus one of their best players and who score few goals? Add to that the small matter that we've already tonked them twice this season and I have to wonder what some of you are afraid of. Surely if we could pick a team to play Coventry at home would be high on the list and for good reason. 32k roaring the team on at St Marys - if we can't win this we don't deserve to go up but let's at least view the game with some realism and perspective - we could not have chosen a better fixture to close out promotion so please stop trying to make out Coventry are suddenly going to morph into Barcelona at their best.
Dalek2003 Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Can't believe people are scared of us playing Coventry for a place in the Prem. So who would we want to play then? Some say Coventry will be relaxed as they have nothing to play for. Well, the alternative is to be playing a side who do have an interest left in the season - how would that possible be construed as easier? So assuming we agree we want to be up against a side with nothing left to fight for who better than Coventry a team with a shocking away record, who will be minus one of their best players and who score few goals? Add to that the small matter that we've already tonked them twice this season and I have to wonder what some of you are afraid of. Surely if we could pick a team to play Coventry at home would be high on the list and for good reason. 32k roaring the team on at St Marys - if we can't win this we don't deserve to go up but let's at least view the game with some realism and perspective - we could not have chosen a better fixture to close out promotion so please stop trying to make out Coventry are suddenly going to morph into Barcelona at their best. Ageed. Provided we are menatally prepared. We need to be methodical, patient and clinical. What we don't want is to go rushing around like headless chickens giving away stupid goals or even having a player sent off. BTW I would have Bart as one of the subs in this game...just in case !
obelisk Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Can't believe people are scared of us playing Coventry for a place in the Prem. So who would we want to play then? Some say Coventry will be relaxed as they have nothing to play for. Well, the alternative is to be playing a side who do have an interest left in the season - how would that possible be construed as easier? So assuming we agree we want to be up against a side with nothing left to fight for who better than Coventry a team with a shocking away record, who will be minus one of their best players and who score few goals? Add to that the small matter that we've already tonked them twice this season and I have to wonder what some of you are afraid of. Surely if we could pick a team to play Coventry at home would be high on the list and for good reason. 32k roaring the team on at St Marys - if we can't win this we don't deserve to go up but let's at least view the game with some realism and perspective - we could not have chosen a better fixture to close out promotion so please stop trying to make out Coventry are suddenly going to morph into Barcelona at their best.I'm not so sure that anyone's scared of Coventry. It's Saints inconsistency and silly errors that I find somewhat perturbing. Of course, if I could choose our opponents for next weekend then Coventry would be high on the list but which Saints team will turn up? It could just as easily be either 6-0 or 0-1 .
PhilippineSaint Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Do Coventry have a particular grudge with either us or WHU that you can think of? Didnt we give them Ken Dilleau (spelling) the suntanned CEO???? That would be enough to hold a grudge
saintant Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 The league table does not lie. We have been top two every week so far for a reason. Equally, Coventry have been relegated for a reason. And the good news is - that idiot Bates won't be refereeing the game.
Legod Third Coming Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 Coventry to be below par because we have given them two juicy loanees Prowse-Ward & Stephens for next season. Ha ha why not as the Boro ref was corrupted too. Part of me wants a West Ham win on Monday so it will make the game Saturday amazing. You are mental. I want to be sipping malt at 10pm tomorrow and then having sex with the missus. The stress means I haven't had a genuinely good night since Xmas!
Liquidshokk Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 What reasons have Leicester got to even bother busting a gut against west ham. Really don't think we should get our hopes up about that match. Would love to be wrong (as I was about Peterborough game thankfully).
Thedelldays Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 What reasons have Leicester got to even bother busting a gut against west ham. Really don't think we should get our hopes up about that match. Would love to be wrong (as I was about Peterborough game thankfully). pride, win bonus playing for a place next season last home game of the season they are pros like today, what is the point in everton bothering at OT...yet they are currently all over man u. but, lets follow that point to the end....what reason have coventry got in busting a gut at SMS?
saintant Posted 22 April, 2012 Posted 22 April, 2012 So Leicester won't bust a gut against West Ham but some think Coventry are suddenly going to sweat blood and produce a season best display against us.
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