The referees a w@nker

[The Corellian]

Boro v Saints can't believe Hines stays on the pitch and we get punished like that.

[The Corellian]

F**king tv games

[SO16_Saint]

Never a truer word said

[sydney_saint]

I can only name a handful of times in my life where I have gone off at a ref. I am one, and understand the pressures they are under. BUT WHAT A ****ING ****! He bottled it, no question, along with the line decision in the first half. Go back to club football, you may have cost us promotion.

[Saintjersey]

If we had closed down their first goal, if we hadn't given away a stupid free kick for their second goal.

 

Blame the players not the ref.

[syd_barrett_saint]

If we had closed down their first goal, if we hadn't given away a stupid free kick for their second goal.

 

Blame the players not the ref.

 

I'm sorry, but Saints were in total control in the 2nd half until that decision. Hines gets sent off, we go on to win the game. But the ref bottled it, no idea why, and loses us a shot a the title. It's been YEARS I've been this annoyed after a game.

 

Also, Lambert could have had a free run on goal to make it 2-0, if it wasn't for a ridiculous decision by the lino that it had gone out of play.

 

Robbed.

[Leicestersaint]

You have to live with poor referees but we simply did not test their keeper enough (or at all).

[alpine_saint]

Blaiming the ref is a cop out. The game was 90mins long.

 

We screwed up and choked the big occasion - again.

[syd_barrett_saint]

Blaiming the ref is a cop out. The game was 90mins long.

 

We screwed up and choked the big occasion - again.

 

The ref changed the game. We we're all over them, and that bad decision sent the game back in the other direction.

 

He sends their player off, we win. I was seething at the time because I knew it was a game changer.

[sussexsaint]

The ref changed the game. We we're all over them, and that bad decision sent the game back in the other direction.

 

He sends their player off, we win. I was seething at the time because I knew it was a game changer.

 

Dead right our players were steaming after that, it disrupted our flow

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Bull**** from the ref, its all very well saying that you can't blame the ref but when you're playing good teams away the game is going to be very tight and the impact of the ref can be decisive. The ref completely bottled it and it would have left us in complete control.

[syd_barrett_saint]

Dead right our players were steaming after that, it disrupted our flow

 

Yep, some people don't understand that football games are about momentum. We had it, I was sure we were going to win, then Hines takes it away with a cynical foul on Lallana, on a yellow, and somehow stays on the pitch. If I was that gutted about it, I can't imagine how it would have affected our players, however professional and positive they are. A hammer blow.

[Crab Lungs]

I don't often blame officials but that was utterly disgraceful

[slickmick]

If we had closed down their first goal, if we hadn't given away a stupid free kick for their second goal.

 

Blame the players not the ref.

 

Or the manager.

[bangkoksaint]

We cocked it up. We are bottlers that don't do big games. The ref made one poor decision, our side made many. They need to be more professional and get on with the game. This side needs major surgery and if we end up in the play offs we will bottle it.

[alpine_saint]

We cocked it up. We are bottlers that don't do big games. The ref made one poor decision, our side made many. They need to be more professional and get on with the game. This side needs major surgery and if we end up in the play offs we will bottle it.

 

Yep, this is where we are now. There are a lot of people in denial into just how much we are staggering towards the finish line.

[Whitey Grandad]

The only decision was red or yellow. What was he thinking?

[AussieDog]

irrespective of the result of the game, the referee bottled it. If he gives the foul in that position on the pitch, then it's a sending off. Whether we would have gone on to win or lose the game we'll never know, but it certainly seemed to give the momentum of the game back to boro after we were dominating them.

[syd_barrett_saint]

I don't often blame officials but that was utterly disgraceful

 

Right, I've never been so angry and sad at a refereeing decision in my life. Added to the Lambert keeping the ball in play decision in the first half which already had me fuming.

 

And in such an important game. Gutted.

[Matthew Le God]

The only decision was red or yellow. What was he thinking?

 

It was never going to be a straight red due to the covering defender, however it is one of the clearest yellow cards you will ever see. How he didn't get a second yellow I don't know. A game changing moment from the ref.

[St Chalet]

The only decision was red or yellow. What was he thinking?

 

This, 'nothing' wasn't an option once he had given the foul!

[Jesus Reigned]

Blaiming the ref is a cop out. The game was 90mins long.

 

We screwed up and choked the big occasion - again.

 

I have many thoughts about tonight's match; that we choked is not one of them.

[Dazza82]

 

On to Coventry, We could be up by then anyway, anything less than a win for West Ham on monday will do it!

 

Coyr

[aintforever]

I ****ing hate it when refs bottle it. He knew the defender was already on a yellow and was too scared to send him off.

 

Spineless, pussy, tosser of a ref.

[Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod]

I ****ing hate it when refs bottle it. He knew the defender was already on a yellow and was too scared to send him off.

 

Spineless, pussy, tosser of a ref.

 

Totally agree.

[Toomer]

Get used to it the refs will be the same in the prem when we play the big clubs,

[saint1977]

Is anyone surprised? Never known a profession refuse to reflect on its unprofessionalism and ineptitude as football officials. These people are on a lot of money and are paid to make key decisions and there was no excuse for that blunder, no-one obscures his view and there was no uncertainty. Even old refs are starting to criticise the performance of current officials which is unheard of and speaks volumes.

 

Agree with Toomer but look at Stoke, the atmosphere for officials there is intimidating and Stoke get very few decisions against them. We can help as fans by making next weekend a hostile environment for the officials and Coventry and if go up, carry that on into next season. Not Millwall hostile where it spills over into trouble but high volume and appealing for all the ref's decisions in our favour.

[Huffton]

That has to be the worst decision I have seen for about as long as I can remember. Is there somewhere that supporters can complain to at the FA about such utter incompetance? The guy needs sacking, end of.

[bender]

I would happily donate £1000 to any charity if it meant that ref was burnt at the stake.

 

I'm rarely this annoyed by a refereeing decision. We were clearly in on goal and the free kick awarded was clearly less of a position to be in. To not even give a card and for a pathetic horrible excuse of a town to go on and beat us is discraceful.

[alpine_saint]

Get used to it the refs will be the same in the prem when we play the big clubs,

 

This. Can you imagine us getting penos or the opposition getting red cards at OT, Emirates, Stamford Bridge, Anfield ?

[St Lej]

This. Can you imagine us getting penos or the opposition getting red cards at OT, Emirates, Stamford Bridge, Anfield ?

 

Still doesn't make it right though. The general standard of refereeing and decision making is abysmal in general

[Red]

Blaiming the ref is a cop out. The game was 90mins long.

 

We screwed up and choked the big occasion - again.

 

Not trying to be funny, but do you really know anything about professional football? We got off to to a great start, maybe too good as we got nervy after I felt and were lucky to be level at half time. With Nige's great half time prep talk we came out flying and would/shoud have crushed them, and then we get the wnak decision. If it was a foul, which the ref gave then it was a booking (maybe not red, but certainly second yellow). Ref bottled it simple as that!

 

To make matters worse, the player that should have been send off made two goal scoring clearences. Add insult to injury Font’s tackle was not a foul, never mind a yellow, and they score from it!

 

Yes we should have won, but Boro really raised their game, we were nervy, and ****wit ref decisions do not help confidence – which is the main difference between winners and losers – BTW how’s your confidence??????

[Micky]

The lad should have walked. But it really wasnt the 'be all and end all', 'gaming changing' decission that some are saying it was. If we let something like that get in the way of winning then I'm thinking that we are not very professional. Turn down 3 stone wall penalties, fail to spot 2 goals that have clearly crossed the line, wrongly send off 2 of our own players - yes those things might well have a major impact. But not this - we should have been big enough to go on and win the game - we didn't. Now it's squeaky bum time.

[saintant]

Officials cost us the game. No arguments, just a simple statement of fact. Four huge cock-ups made. We should have had a penalty in the first half for a clear handball. Sorry but if a defender holds his arms away from his body he is using them to try to block the ball - no different to lunging with your legs. The whole ball wasn't over the line when Lambo went clean through - likely that he would have scored. Don't even get me started on the way he completely bottled the sending off - that alone should be enough for him to have his badges taken away, absolute disgrace. Then there was the mystery moving of the ball for their free kick. The foul by Fonte was committed on the right half of the D yet Boro were allowed to take it on the left so that a right-footed player could curl it into the top corner. Watch replays of where the foul takes place and the kick is taken nowhere near that. We are still likely to go up but if we don't this referee has cost the football club millions - one of the most inept displays I've ever seen and he should be held accountable.

[cambsaint]

The referee was wrong, but to blame hime for Saints inability to beat 11 men fair and square is ridiculous.

The current attitude of trying to get players sent off for two non-dangerous yellows sickens me.

There is reasonable doubt that it was a clear scoring chance.

Yes we would probably have won against ten men, but if you can't 'park the bus' away and defend a lead in the Championship, just imagine how we'll fare against players of genuine pace and guile in The Prem.

I expect that we will go up by beating Coventry, I saw both away victories and they haven't much to offer.

[Belsey23]

I'm as peeved as everyone else about it but at the end of the day we shouldn't dwell on it, there's nothing we can do about it now. Have to pick ourselves up and get behind the lads next Saturday

[Whitey Grandad]

It's not just the lack of a sending off, Adam would have had a real chance of scoring. It was as clear a professional foul as you will ever see.

[Micky]

Officials cost us the game. No arguments, just a simple statement of fact. Four huge cock-ups made. We should have had a penalty in the first half for a clear handball. Sorry but if a defender holds his arms away from his body he is using them to try to block the ball - no different to lunging with your legs. The whole ball wasn't over the line when Lambo went clean through - likely that he would have scored. Don't even get me started on the way he completely bottled the sending off - that alone should be enough for him to have his badges taken away, absolute disgrace. Then there was the mystery moving of the ball for their free kick. The foul by Fonte was committed on the right half of the D yet Boro were allowed to take it on the left so that a right-footed player could curl it into the top corner. Watch replays of where the foul takes place and the kick is taken nowhere near that. We are still likely to go up but if we don't this referee has cost the football club millions - one of the most inept displays I've ever seen and he should be held accountable.

 

Sorry - but you really are straw clutching. 1 out of 4 for me. The lad should have got sent off - but he didn't. Really it wasn't a 'game changer'.

 

Penalty - you're the first poster that I have seen even try to claim it. Not in a month of Sundays - and if he had given it against us - your rose tints would have been straight on.

 

Throw in. Ball probably wasn't out of play - but everybody stopped anyway - no game changer.

 

Moving the ball. Everybody, every footballer, every pro, everybody does it. They are taught to do it - we know they are going to do it. If we get a chance, we are going to do it. Our fault, for giving a studpid, needless free kick away in a dangerous position.

 

Need to be more gracious in defeat - we had loads of the ball, but were totally ineffective with it. When they got it - they used it and beat us. Fair and square.

[saintant]

Sorry, that's rubbish. Watch the game again - we had all the clear cut chances and I can be gracious in defeat when it is deserved but we were clearly cheated out of that. Watch the handball not long after our goal - clear as anything and Adam Lallana appeals but of course, such an inept ref sees nothing. So it's ok that the ball was still in and Lambo had a clear run on goal then - that's not considered a game changing decision - get real. Again, a man should have been sent off and that's not a game changer - what is then? As for the free kick, yes all sides try to pinch a couple of feet but they took it on completely the wrong side of the D - it was yards from where the offence took place and the referee should have been aware of what was going on.

[saintpat]

The referee bottled it. It was a clear yellow card as soon as he blew for the foul.

Yes we should have converted our chances, yes Fonte shouldn't have committed such a ridiculous foul in that position.

If the referee had made the correct decision and sent him off and we had still lost, then you can make complaints about the team performance, however the referee has to take responsibility for a truly shocking decision, a correct decision would have changed the dynamics of the game, the wrong decision also changed the dynamics of the game, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. Saints players felt cheated by the ref and without doubt it affected them(you could argue it shouldn't- but they are normal human beings- it will affect them).

The referee can have no excuse for not sending him off- he needs to be reprimanded and suspended for a few games. Everyone knows it would have been a yellow card if he hadn't already got one.

Saints players also need to hold their heads in shame- I CANNOT BEAR, players trying to get another player sent off- it was an awful display from our players. I never want to see Saints players act in that way again. Yes he should have been sent off but our players were disgraceful.

 

It's still in our hands, we need to forget about this now and move on. The team have been very good at bouncing back after a bad result, I have no doubt they can do it again next Saturday.

 

In the meantime, I'm going back to the voodoo doll and sticking a few more pins in before finding the lighter!

[Micky]

Sorry, that's rubbish. Watch the game again - we had all the clear cut chances and I can be gracious in defeat when it is deserved but we were clearly cheated out of that. Watch the handball not long after our goal - clear as anything and Adam Lallana appeals but of course, such an inept ref sees nothing. So it's ok that the ball was still in and Lambo had a clear run on goal then - that's not considered a game changing decision - get real. Again, a man should have been sent off and that's not a game changer - what is then? As for the free kick, yes all sides try to pinch a couple of feet but they took it on completely the wrong side of the D - it was yards from where the offence took place and the referee should have been aware of what was going on.

 

I don't need to watch the game again - I've agreed - that all of those things happened. But that's the rub of the green. The ball didnt go out of play - the linesman gave it, not the referee - perhaps they were colluding for us to lose. It did hit the defenders hand - but it would do - he was two yards off Adam, far too close. They moved the ball - as we knew they would, because they, like us, are a professional football team seeking to gain every available advantage. None of those things lost us the game, in fact some of them are trivia in the scheme of things - we lost the game - not the referee.

 

He did, I also agree, get the sending off wrong - but again - thats the rub of the green. None of those incidents stopped us winning the game.

[saintant]

Reference the point about our players trying to get a fellow pro sent off - I believe all the protesting came about because the ref informed them immediately that he was not going to book Hines. This despite the fact that he clinically scythed down Adam who was through on goal and would certainly have got a shot away. i think under those circumstances any group of players in the world would rightly feel aggrieved and rightly voice their total disbelief at such an unproffesional decision. I would love to know how that referee explains to the match adjudicators why he failed to give Hines even a yellow card for a tackle that was bordering on worth a straight red. There is nothing he could possibly say to justify his decision. I wonder if there is a single person who watched that incident who would side with the referee's decision - I somehow doubt it because it was just so clear cut as to be beyond argument. The only surprise to me was that Hines didn't start walking assuming a card was coming his way. Disgrace!

[andybeal]

At the match and 2 minutes after this incident the referee held / shook hands with Rhys Williams in the penalty area - what was that all about??

[Red]

Officials cost us the game. No arguments, just a simple statement of fact. Four huge cock-ups made. We should have had a penalty in the first half for a clear handball. Sorry but if a defender holds his arms away from his body he is using them to try to block the ball - no different to lunging with your legs. The whole ball wasn't over the line when Lambo went clean through - likely that he would have scored. Don't even get me started on the way he completely bottled the sending off - that alone should be enough for him to have his badges taken away, absolute disgrace. Then there was the mystery moving of the ball for their free kick. The foul by Fonte was committed on the right half of the D yet Boro were allowed to take it on the left so that a right-footed player could curl it into the top corner. Watch replays of where the foul takes place and the kick is taken nowhere near that. We are still likely to go up but if we don't this referee has cost the football club millions - one of the most inept displays I've ever seen and he should be held accountable.

 

 

If in the nightmare situation we did not go up, could we sue him? Would make future refs buck up their game!!

[Saintjersey]

If in the nightmare situation we did not go up, could we sue him? Would make future refs buck up their game!!

 

One of the most retarded posts I have ever read.

 

What exactly are you going to sue him over?

[Red]

One of the most retarded posts I have ever read.

 

What exactly are you going to sue him over?

 

You are the true retart if you don't know! How about loss of £100M as a result of not getting in to the PL due a professional's neglate of rightful duty? People have been sued for less.

 

And in case you hadn't noticed this is a forum for opions and views - no need to be such a "See You Next Tuesday" - HTH :-)

[SuperMikey]

Absolutely disgraceful decision. Hope he's reported to the FA for that, because it's just a ridiculous decision not to send him off for that. The hand should've been going for the cards before he even blew the whistle...

 

F*cking bottler.

[Saintjersey]

You are the true retart if you don't know! How about loss of £100M as a result of not getting in to the PL due a professional's neglate of rightful duty? People have been sued for less.

 

And in case you hadn't noticed this is a forum for opions and views - no need to be such a "See You Next Tuesday" - HTH :-)

 

So we play a 1 game season now do we? Let's just forget all the other 45 games.

 

Going by your 'theory' why don't other teams sue the refs who have given us favourable decisions throughout the season. In fact we would end up with every team suing every single ref, claiming that decisions during one game cost them promotion, relegation or a cup win.

 

Whilst we are at it, maybe you should inform England to sue the ref who disallowed Lampard's goal against Germany, or the ref who allowed Chelsea's goal to count against Spurs in the FA Cup, or the ref's which always give Utd 'Fergie time'.

 

Come on retard explain and make your case.

[Micky]

You are the true retart if you don't know! How about loss of £100M as a result of not getting in to the PL due a professional's neglate of rightful duty? People have been sued for less.

 

And in case you hadn't noticed this is a forum for opions and views - no need to be such a "See You Next Tuesday" - HTH :-)

 

I thought you were joking with your initial post about suing the ref. Do you honestly think that we would try to sue for loss of prem earnings - honestly?

 

I accept that, as you say, you are only voicing your opinion. But can I just ask the last time that you saw a football official in a court of law answering to the beak?

[sandwichsaint]

Get over yourselves! I've just driven a 600 mile round trip and I'm over it already!

 

Really poor decision but it's not going to change now .... next Saturday, beat Cov and we are up, a one-game play-off final at home against the second worst team in the league.

 

Who wouldn't have taken that pre-season?