MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport Reply Retweet Favorite · Open #saintsfc midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin back in the squad for tomorrow's trip to Peterborough after recovering from a knee injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Just seen that, huge boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Has he been out long enough for us to build up his importance so much that he seems disappointing on his return yet? He may need longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 BBC Solent Sport @solentsport Reply Retweet Favorite · Open #saintsfc midfielder Morgan Schneiderlin back in the squad for tomorrow's trip to Peterborough after recovering from a knee injury And yet on the preview on the OS this fierst thing that's written is that he won't make it in time.Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Mind games by the club I imagine. Solent would have been down there either yesterday or this morning to conduct the interviews and must have seen Morgan training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Has he been out long enough for us to build up his importance so much that he seems disappointing on his return yet? He may need longer. Ahh the Chaplow experience, but Chaplow is about 1/10 th of the player that Morgan will be at the same age. Just do not see what people see in Chaplow,runs around, gets cards and loses the ball more often than not. True he's scored 3 goals to Morgan's 2 though,unsurprising because it's not the same role.Chaplow has replaced Guly and Adam and nobody else and they are goalscorers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Has he been out long enough for us to build up his importance so much that he seems disappointing on his return yet? He may need longer. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hopefully he is back. Hammond was poor the other night against Reading. Gave the ball away on numerous occasions and was caught in possession a couple of times as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hopefully he is back. Hammond was poor the other night against Reading. Gave the ball away on numerous occasions and was caught in possession a couple of times as well. Something Schneiderlin has never been guilty of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Has he been out long enough for us to build up his importance so much that he seems disappointing on his return yet? He may need longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Anyway, watched the build up video. Nigel says Morgan is close to being fit for Tuesday night,doesn't say he will or won't be though.Morgan only appears fleetingly on the video doesn't look as if he has any sort of bandage on his knee though. Noticed Nigel was putting in crosses and had the keepers coming out to catch them, pehaps he, like I, thought that Kelvin should have had the one that they scored from on Friday or at least should have come out and got into the mix to make it less easy for Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Something Schneiderlin has never been guilty of. He hasn't played as poorly as Hammond did the other night all season. He's one of our unsung heroes of the season, keeps everything ticking along nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hopefully he is back. Hammond was poor the other night against Reading. Gave the ball away on numerous occasions and was caught in possession a couple of times as well. Hammond is always poor at this level,I mean he runs around and does a few things not so badly but everything is so f*cking slow and telegraphed with him.When he has a shot at goal it takes about half an hour to set himself up and the he usually hits it either high, wide or unhandsome.When he plays a forward ball it's either off target or so late that the recipient is 2 yards offside.He's just out of his depth against decent sides but there will always be Palaces and Barnsleys to make him look adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hammond is always poor at this level,I mean he runs around and does a few things not so badly but everything is so f*cking slow and telegraphed with him.When he has a shot at goal it takes about half an hour to set himself up and the he usually hits it either high, wide or unhandsome.When he plays a forward ball it's either off target or so late that the recipient is 2 yards offside.He's just out of his depth against decent sides but there will always be Palaces and Barnsleys to make him look adequate. So actually not out of his depth at all and more than good enough against most of the division, but not quite up to it against the best team in the division. What more can you expect from a Championship side squad player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Didn't think Hammond played that badly on Friday, and also thought he was superb against Palace. I think Schneiderlin is awesome, but I think people give Hammond a hard time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Didn't think Hammond played that badly on Friday, and also thought he was superb against Palace. I think Schneiderlin is awesome, but I think people give Hammond a hard time. Yiou obviously just watch him in the heat of games but when you've DVDs and full 90s and the like you can see his real level.He isn't good enough for a top 6 NPC side,then again he isn't the only one in our side who isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Well i'm not going to lie, I don't just sit and watch 1 player when I go to football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Delighted he's back, he makes a huge difference in terms of us controlling the game. People will say he doesn't offer enough attacking threat, but that's not what he's in the team to do. He's in the team to retain the ball and use it well, whilst also winning it and breaking up opposion attacks. He's the best midfielder we have at doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I think Morgan provides something different to Deano and Jack Cork in the middle, When he got injured by the skates some of our creativity went out the window, Deano and Jack Cork (especially) are very good ball winners and passers of the ball. The palace game was a physical battle in the middle of the park which suited them both, thats why we all said they had a good game, Against Reading at times we looked one dimensional and needed something different, thats what Morgan gives a touch of class maybe or he see's a pass that the other 2 doesnt. But hey what do i know, we still should have beaten the skates three times over and scored at least 3 times againts Reading. Still, lots to be positive about....It's a funny old game....!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 From OS The midweek game comes too soon for Morgan Schneiderlin who remains out with a knee injury. Is he back or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Anyway, watched the build up video. Nigel says Morgan is close to being fit for Tuesday night,doesn't say he will or won't be though.Morgan only appears fleetingly on the video doesn't look as if he has any sort of bandage on his knee though. Noticed Nigel was putting in crosses and had the keepers coming out to catch them, pehaps he, like I, thought that Kelvin should have had the one that they scored from on Friday or at least should have come out and got into the mix to make it less easy for Roberts. We have been through all of this before with Kelvin and it's best he continues as he has been. Because Kelvin coming for those crosses was even worse. We all know it's a weakness as we know his shot stopping is a strength. Federici showed how it should be done, but he looks the outstanding goalie in this league. That good I would have been sweating a Ricky penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 From OS The midweek game comes too soon for Morgan Schneiderlin who remains out with a knee injury. Is he back or not?? See the build up video, Nigel says that he's close to being available for Posh, work out for yourself what exactly that means in plain speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Bench maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Think Cork and Hammond will start anyway. Morgan to start Vs Mboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Federici showed how it should be done, but he looks the outstanding goalie in this league. That good I would have been sweating a Ricky penalty. Whilst not disagreeing that he should probably get the vote in the team of the year awards, lets not forget that he only came for 2 crossesand that they were high floaty ones from the halfway line. One was a free kick. We sent countless other crosses in that he stayed on his line for and we should have scored from at least 2 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I didn't think Hammond was particularly poor on Friday. I can't remember my attention being drawn to him for either good or bad reasons. He was, however, immense against Palace, and I think would be able to do a similar job of putting himself about and getting the tackles in against Peterborough. FWIW I'd stick with Hammond and Cork for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 (edited) Whilst not disagreeing that he should probably get the vote in the team of the year awards, lets not forget that he only came for 2 crossesand that they were high floaty ones from the halfway line. One was a free kick. We sent countless other crosses in that he stayed on his line for and we should have scored from at least 2 of them. Whilst on the subject of Federici: Noticed that he had a bit of a tendancy to parry shots but not really catch them cleanly. There's one occasion from a Rickie effort that comes out and rolls about the 6 yard line.Now a real sniffer would have buried that in an instant but our nearest player must have been 5 to 8 yards away.Rickie has a hell of a shot on him so Sharp should be following up him having a reputation as a box hanging goal hound that is.Bet you Connolly or Chung would have been onto it in a flash. Edited 16 April, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I can't remember my attention being drawn to him for either good or bad reasons. orough. FWIW I'd sti do you not watch games? Hammond was in no man's land for their first goal, he just dallied in the middle of the f*cking wilderness instead of doing something positive good or bad.For their second goal he just gave them the ball when we were going forward and we were just outnumbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Whilst not disagreeing that he should probably get the vote in the team of the year awards, lets not forget that he only came for 2 crossesand that they were high floaty ones from the halfway line. One was a free kick. We sent countless other crosses in that he stayed on his line for and we should have scored from at least 2 of them. He came out for one decent cross from the left wing, I believe in the second half. Handled that very well and why I feel he would have dealt with the cross Roberts scored from. In reality he may well of stayed on his line as Kelvin but I felt Federici was easily the better keeper. Especially when you consider he has been doing the same or better for several games. One of the main reasons why Reading have gone on the run they have and I can't see anyone touching him for Championship goalie. He mugged Brighton when the rest of the Reading team were not at the races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 The first goal Fox tried to send a 40 yard cross field ball which was intercepted and then Fonte misjudged the shot, how was that Hammonds fault? Why do some fans see him as our scapegoat along with Guly? Hammond is a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 The first goal Fox tried to send a 40 yard cross field ball which was intercepted and then Fonte misjudged the shot, how was that Hammonds fault? Why do some fans see him as our scapegoat along with Guly? Hammond is a good player. Look at the videos,look at his positioning,look at his indecision,half the CMs in the top 2 divisions would have just upended the Reading player before he even sent the ball out to Kebe,Hammond has the time to get there it's just indecision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Morgan in the side will mean less long balls from the back. He demands the ball from them into feet and starts a lot of our moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 The first goal Fox tried to send a 40 yard cross field ball which was intercepted and then Fonte misjudged the shot, how was that Hammonds fault? Why do some fans see him as our scapegoat along with Guly? Hammond is a good player. The moment Foxy sent that daft pass across the area and it got intercepted, I said to my sister and brother in law "goal here". Its always the things you bring on yourself that come back at you, like Sharp missing the pen at blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 The moment Foxy sent that daft pass across the area and it got intercepted, I said to my sister and brother in law "goal here". Its always the things you bring on yourself that come back at you, like Sharp missing the pen at blackpool.I also said this to my dad ! Also said the second goal when we didnt manage to clear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I think he'll probably be on the bench. As far as I was made aware it was more a bad cut rather than a broken bone/ligament injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hammond was quite poor on Friday, he was massively at fault for the 2nd Reading goal. Huge touch in the middle of the field which gave them the ball, 10 seconds later its in our net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 (edited) Hammond was quite poor on Friday, he was massively at fault for the 2nd Reading goal. Huge touch in the middle of the field which gave them the ball, 10 seconds later its in our net. He was also partially at fault for their first goal,Fox gave them the ball about 6/10 yds inside our half,not really the end of the world,the ball goes to Mullins before it goes out to Kebe and Hammond didn't tackle him hard enough or quickly enough,Fox stands off Kebe instead of going in on him and the rest is history.Schneiderlin would as likely as not got to Mullins and tackled him or at least been wise enough to cut out the exit ball.Honestly you just cannot blame Fox for the giveaway because they were only just in our half when they got it and we had 5 or 6 behind the ball.Fox is only to blame for not getting in on Kebe but Hammond is at fault for allowing Mullins to transmit the ball to him.All this is documented fact on the video reports. Edited 16 April, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I was thinking about this. I think Morgan would have tracked Norris run for that equalising goal. His tracking back work is much better than Cork or Hammonds, and he often is in the RIGHT place at the right time. Shame he got studded within 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I do think Hammond was out of position because he wasn't expecting Fox to go for the 50 yard pass and lose possession, but I do agree he could have put a foot in. And I also agree that Morgan would have been where Norris was for the Skates equaliser. I do think Schneiderlin is our best centre midfielder, but I think it's harsh to blame Hammond as much as some people are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 More importantly for me is that when one of the central mids tires we wont have to bring Guly on in that role. Gives us a bit more depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Good news. Always handy to have a player who doesn't just give the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 do you not watch games? Hammond was in no man's land for their first goal, he just dallied in the middle of the f*cking wilderness instead of doing something positive good or bad.For their second goal he just gave them the ball when we were going forward and we were just outnumbered. Yes, I go to all home games and have done 7 aways so far. I apologise for seeing games differently to you and not singling out Hammond for either a positive or negative performance on Friday. Sometimes I just get into the game and forget to make detailed notes about each of our player's performance. I think this is called enjoying myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 This is great news and a much-needed shot-in-the-arm after Hammonds recent performance. Maybe a case for putting him on the bench and giving him those few extra days before Middlesbrough and Coventry ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hammond just isnt really that good - Morgan is a class act who will continue to improve - hopefully with us. Hammond is not able to pass the ball forward without losing it, has poor control, never remotely looks like scoring (Leeds game apart, great strike) and always takes too many touches which slows play down (not really his fault, he just needs to take that many). On the odd occassion that our games descend into more of a scrap, he can be useful as he can get his foot in, but if we're honest, he doesnt really do that particularly forcefully either. Even in those games i'd rather have Morgan, but moreover, when we are at home and largely dominating possession, we need his extra quality to help unpick the usual defensively minded set-up in front of us. Noticeably, we didnt really dominate possession against a pretty awful Skate team - Morgan was taken out of the game after a couple of minutes... Anyway - i hope he's fit for tomorrow (which by the way, makes me feel a bit sick every time i think about the game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 This is great news and a much-needed shot-in-the-arm after Hammonds recent performance. Maybe a case for putting him on the bench and giving him those few extra days before Middlesbrough and Coventry ? TBH, Hammond has done more than adequately in the three games he's deputised for Schneiderlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 This is great news and a much-needed shot-in-the-arm after Hammonds recent performance. Maybe a case for putting him on the bench and giving him those few extra days before Middlesbrough and Coventry ? Actually agree, Hammond is probably more suited to the Peterboro match, bit less finesse and a bit of a crappy pitch, Spiderman definitely would get the nod against Middlesbro and Coventry though. The best bit though is that it gives us options, Spiderman out meant we were very limited in CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 He was also partially at fault for their first goal,Fox gave them the ball about 6/10 yds inside our half,not really the end of the world,the ball goes to Mullins before it goes out to Kebe and Hammond didn't tackle him hard enough or quickly enough,Fox stands off Kebe instead of going in on him and the rest is history.Schneiderlin would as likely as not got to Mullins and tackled him or at least been wise enough to cut out the exit ball.Honestly you just cannot blame Fox for the giveaway because they were only just in our half when they got it and we had 5 or 6 behind the ball.Fox is only to blame for not getting in on Kebe but Hammond is at fault for allowing Mullins to transmit the ball to him.All this is documented fact on the video reports. You really are blind to reality, just use Hammond as a scape goat. Fox was at fault for the 1st and 2nd goal. He never gets close enough to the Wide men and allows the cross when they must be stopped. Hence Adkins comment re cutting out the crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Yiou obviously just watch him in the heat of games but when you've DVDs and full 90s and the like you can see his real level.He isn't good enough for a top 6 NPC side,then again he isn't the only one in our side who isn't. But yet here we are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Would be a massive boost to get him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Great to have Morgan back but it has to be said that Hammond was immense against Palace. A MOTM performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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