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Rather than waste your time posting this drivel, get a pen. Get a pad.

 

And write this:

 

"Dear Nigel,

 

Thank you for coming to our club.

 

Thank you for delivering us promotion in your first season, taking over the team in 22nd and finishing 2nd - 3 points behind the league winners.

 

Thank you for making us the fittest team in my living memory.

 

Thank you for bringing the best out of Rickie Lambert and through your fitness regime, making him the best player in the football league - voted by his peers.

 

Thank you for overseeing more wins than any manager in the club's history.

 

Thank you Nigel for bringing us to the brink of Premiership football, playing a style that can be scintilating and as good as any team in Europe on our day.

 

Nigel, just thank you. That is all.

 

And good luck for the final push. You and the players deserve it for the work and sheer team ethic you have demonstrated from day one, hour one, minute one.

 

And for the pleasure you have given me and thirty thousand like me."

 

And if you can't find a pen, I'll send you one. And if you don't write with it, perhaps I'll shove it where your head clearly is.

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Rather than waste your time posting this drivel, get a pen. Get a pad.

 

And write this:

 

"Dear Nigel,

 

Thank you for coming to our club.

 

Thank you for delivering us promotion in your first season, taking over the team in 22nd and finishing 2nd - 3 points behind the league winners.

 

Thank you for making us the fittest team in my living memory.

 

Thank you for bringing the best out of Rickie Lambert and through your fitness regime, making him the best player in the football league - voted by his peers.

 

Thank you for overseeing more wins than any manager in the club's history.

 

Thank you Nigel for bringing us to the brink of Premiership football, playing a style that can be scintilating and as good as any team in Europe on our day.

 

Nigel, just thank you. That is all.

 

And good luck for the final push. You and the players deserve it for the work and sheer team ethic you have demonstrated from day one, hour one, minute one.

 

And for the pleasure you have given me and thirty thousand like me."

 

And if you can't find a pen, I'll send you one. And if you don't write with it, perhaps I'll shove it where your head clearly is.

 

Very very well said

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I've got real concerns for and about about this guy. Our current position not withstanding, he rarely has a plan B, has bought poorly - Saints' success so far has largely been down to either players brought by Pardew or were already in situ- and is undeniably under Cortese's instructions for each and every action that he implements.

 

You can not help but feel sorry for a boss who if Southampton fail to get promoted will be hung out to dry by his chairman or, if succsseful, will be three Premiership defeats away from the sack at any given time should Saints go up.

When Adkins was first touted, we had highs for his independence as he reporedly refused to leave S****horpe without them being properly rewarded but since then has made a bit of an ass of himself through his Pollyanna interviews and twee phases. London to a brick implies he is setting himself up badly here.

 

Before the knockers start, of course I want Saints to go forth and prosper, but the team would definiely be no worse off if Pardew was still in charge.

 

I haven't read the rest of this thread, but dear god what a p***k you are if you really believe that rubbish.

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Watcher? Window licker more like - reckon he's the guy in the photo on the bus.

 

Oh and LTC - top post - says it all

They were certainly strange looking people.Extraterrestrials i think.

The Watcher was a character (or characters because oddly enough there was more than one of them) in Marvel Comics in the days of my youth.They not only had their own stories but they appeared in others as well, not sure that one of them wasn't in the Fantastic Four or something like that, ahh if I could just remember what was in those Comics you swapped in the ABC minors at portswood of a Saturday AM.

 

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was he in Marvel Comics :scared:

 

You need to brush up on your 'Art of War' chap. ;)

 

So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.

If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.

If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.

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The beatification of Nigel Adkins is reminder that the same attitude was adopted, by the same people or their predessessors, over Whisky George. (In George We Trust). Nigel has done a good job but he's no superman and there are undoubtedly other managers, including Alan Pardew, who could have done the same but it is Nigel who has got us where we are and he deserves credit for that, but at the moment the job is not yet done. Unless we get 7 points from the last 3 games it is quite possible that West Ham might take second place, followed by the lottery of the play-offs. Whist Nigel will deserve the credit if we get promoted, the other side of the same coin is taking responsibility if we fail despite being in the top two all season. Whether Nigel is seen as a Saint or a Sinner may depend on these three games but if we do go up, it would still be nice if he could get some better PR support to improve those post-match, pre-match, comments!

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They were certainly strange looking people.Extraterrestrials i think.

The Watcher was a character (or characters because oddly enough there was more than one of them) in Marvel Comics in the days of my youth.They not only had their own stories but they appeared in others as well, not sure that one of them wasn't in the Fantastic Four or something like that, ahh if I could just remember what was in those Comics you swapped in the ABC minors at portswood of a Saturday AM.

 

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They also had "Watchers" in the TV version of The Highlander. This was in the later episodes when it was really starting to jump the shark........They were a bunch of tossers too, just like this one.

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The beatification of Nigel Adkins is reminder that the same attitude was adopted, by the same people or their predessessors, over Whisky George. (In George We Trust). Nigel has done a good job but he's no superman and there are undoubtedly other managers, including Alan Pardew, who could have done the same but it is Nigel who has got us where we are and he deserves credit for that, but at the moment the job is not yet done. Unless we get 7 points from the last 3 games it is quite possible that West Ham might take second place, followed by the lottery of the play-offs. Whist Nigel will deserve the credit if we get promoted, the other side of the same coin is taking responsibility if we fail despite being in the top two all season. Whether Nigel is seen as a Saint or a Sinner may depend on these three games but if we do go up, it would still be nice if he could get some better PR support to improve those post-match, pre-match, comments!

 

Sorry disagree. Nige and the squad have to date over achieved - something that has been possible only by playing a fluid passing game that has caused many more static sides problems and a unity of spirit and togethreness that any manager taking a shine to someones missus (alegedly) is never going to achieve. As a result this is a still a work in progress and had others with more established sides actually delivered we would be all be more that happy having gained a play off place. To suggest Nige has 'failed' if two other teams win more games and gain more points than us in our first season in the NPC is disengenuous - and for me that IS how you have to look at it - over 46 games not just the last 8 because only after 46 have you standardised the opposition, all played the same - if we finish 3rd it will be feckin disapointing and will seriously feck me off.... BUT it will not be failure.

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I've got real concerns for and about about this guy. Our current position not withstanding, he rarely has a plan B, has bought poorly - Saints' success so far has largely been down to either players brought by Pardew or were already in situ- and is undeniably under Cortese's instructions for each and every action that he implements.

 

You can not help but feel sorry for a boss who if Southampton fail to get promoted will be hung out to dry by his chairman or, if succsseful, will be three Premiership defeats away from the sack at any given time should Saints go up.

When Adkins was first touted, we had highs for his independence as he reporedly refused to leave S****horpe without them being properly rewarded but since then has made a bit of an ass of himself through his Pollyanna interviews and twee phases. London to a brick implies he is setting himself up badly here.

 

Before the knockers start, of course I want Saints to go forth and prosper, but the team would definiely be no worse off if Pardew was still in charge.

 

Obviously this is a joke.

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Sorry disagree. Nige and the squad have to date over achieved - something that has been possible only by playing a fluid passing game that has caused many more static sides problems and a unity of spirit and togethreness that any manager taking a shine to someones missus (alegedly) is never going to achieve. As a result this is a still a work in progress and had others with more established sides actually delivered we would be all be more that happy having gained a play off place. To suggest Nige has 'failed' if two other teams win more games and gain more points than us in our first season in the NPC is disengenuous - and for me that IS how you have to look at it - over 46 games not just the last 8 because only after 46 have you standardised the opposition' date=' all played the same - if we finish 3rd it will be feckin disapointing and will seriously feck me off.... BUT it will not be failure.[/quote']

Good post .

as for the OP, you serious ? wot a load of tripe!

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One of my biggest hates in football, is when club's fans and owners forget where they have come from after a little bit of success.

 

See Colin getting sacked at QPR - impatient owner

McCarthy at Wolves - impatient mong fans, putting pressure on the chairman.

 

The list goes on and on if you look back over the years. I look at the clubs who's expectation gets far beyond what is realistically achievable and sustainable, and think I would hate to see that happen at my club. There are signs of it emerging already.

 

Nigel Adkins has done an unbelievably good job at Southampton, and what he has achieved far surpasses what we thought possible in the time he's been here.

 

Even if we don't achieve automatic promotion, it'll still be a fantastic season. Before the season started, nearly every one of us would've had your hand off if offered a top 6 finish. That's in the bag already.

 

Give it a rest, grab an oar, and get behind the lads FFS.

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I've got real concerns for and about about this guy. Our current position not withstanding, he rarely has a plan B, has bought poorly - Saints' success so far has largely been down to either players brought by Pardew or were already in situ- and is undeniably under Cortese's instructions for each and every action that he implements.

 

You can not help but feel sorry for a boss who if Southampton fail to get promoted will be hung out to dry by his chairman or, if succsseful, will be three Premiership defeats away from the sack at any given time should Saints go up.

When Adkins was first touted, we had highs for his independence as he reporedly refused to leave S****horpe without them being properly rewarded but since then has made a bit of an ass of himself through his Pollyanna interviews and twee phases. London to a brick implies he is setting himself up badly here.

 

Before the knockers start, of course I want Saints to go forth and prosper, but the team would definiely be no worse off if Pardew was still in charge.

 

I'm so glad that we have people who are not even satisfied with the team being 3 points clear in the automatic promotion places with 3 games to go. As for "under Cortese's instructions", if that were the case then Cortese wouldn't have bothered appointing a manager. I don't see him communicating these "every instructions" on match days, so I can only assume Adkins is doing what he, as a professional football manager, thinks is the best course of action.

 

Pardew didn't sign Fox, Hooiveld, Cork, Lee, Sharp, De Ridder, the promising Jack Stephens, or Chaplow. He also isn't responsible for the fit, attacking, powerful Frazer Richardson we've seen this season.

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Sorry disagree. Nige and the squad have to date over achieved - something that has been possible only by playing a fluid passing game that has caused many more static sides problems and a unity of spirit and togethreness that any manager taking a shine to someones missus (alegedly) is never going to achieve. As a result this is a still a work in progress and had others with more established sides actually delivered we would be all be more that happy having gained a play off place. To suggest Nige has 'failed' if two other teams win more games and gain more points than us in our first season in the NPC is disengenuous - and for me that IS how you have to look at it - over 46 games not just the last 8 because only after 46 have you standardised the opposition' date=' all played the same - if we finish 3rd it will be feckin disapointing and will seriously feck me off.... BUT it will not be failure.[/quote']

Sorry to disagree but with 7 games to go we were 5 points clear of the second team, who are now 3 ahead of us, and 9 points clear of third, who could now draw level if we lose at Peterborough, and could even wipe out what was thought to be an unassailable GD. OK, it hasn't happened yet. We could yet win the last 3 games and things will look different, but if we don't, the performance over the last 7 games when we had every incentive to be at maximum performance, will have been atrocious. It can be rescued, but if it isn't, I don't know how else you could define failure and I suspect the Chairman would see it like that as well.

 

So which will it be:-

"Thank you, Mr Cortese, I was sure we would hold our nerve to get the points we needed from those last few games and its to the credit of the whole squad that we've done it."

"I'm sorry about that, Mr Cortese, with 7 games to go I thought we had it sown up, but it wasn't failure, just look at how well we did in August and since then we've all been working very, very hard."

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Sorry to disagree but with 7 games to go we were 5 points clear of the second team, who are now 3 ahead of us, and 9 points clear of third, who could now draw level if we lose at Peterborough, and could even wipe out what was thought to be an unassailable GD. OK, it hasn't happened yet. We could yet win the last 3 games and things will look different, but if we don't, the performance over the last 7 games when we had every incentive to be at maximum performance, will have been atrocious. It can be rescued, but if it isn't, I don't know how else you could define failure and I suspect the Chairman would see it like that as well.

 

So which will it be:-

"Thank you, Mr Cortese, I was sure we would hold our nerve to get the points we needed from those last few games and its to the credit of the whole squad that we've done it."

"I'm sorry about that, Mr Cortese, with 7 games to go I thought we had it sown up, but it wasn't failure, just look at how well we did in August and since then we've all been working very, very hard."

 

The problem is one of shifting goal posts - taking the season as whole, back in August only a few extremely optimistic fans were willing to suggest we would occupy one of the 2 auto places with 3 games to go... Its no surprise to me that as the season has progresssed we have found it more difficult - its a long season, other sides that started poorly picked up and many that had invested heavily started to gell. In addition, we needed to adapt and bring in alternative approaches to our passing style, simply because (and this is no criticism) we do not have teh quality for it to work against all standards and tactical approaches.

 

To base the evaluation of the season on last 7 games is simply wrong, and only because we have shifted the goal posts of expectation the longer we remained in the top two. This squad deserves promotion if they hold out, if they dont, I dont see how anyone can class the season as failure - sorry, dissapointing yes, but not failure. I also believe NC is much more pragmatic than most fans - yes he will be acutely aware of teh opportunity and the desire to remain ahead of schedule - I am sure teh right amount of pressure is being applied to Nige, but not to the extent that it will have a negative impact. Nigel is still learning, NC is still learning - as we will do next seaosn no matter what happens. Nige may peek and not be able to take us further, who knows (although I suspect there is more to come form him as his experience and knowedge increases), but to suggest we have somehow failed based on 7 games is mis-judging the situation IMHO.

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The problem is one of shifting goal posts - taking the season as whole, back in August only a few extremely optimistic fans were willing to suggest we would occupy one of the 2 auto places with 3 games to go... Its no surprise to me that as the season has progresssed we have found it more difficult - its a long season, other sides that started poorly picked up and many that had invested heavily started to gell. In addition, we needed to adapt and bring in alternative approaches to our passing style, simply because (and this is no criticism) we do not have teh quality for it to work against all standards and tactical approaches.

 

To base the evaluation of the season on last 7 games is simply wrong, and only because we have shifted the goal posts of expectation the longer we remained in the top two. This squad deserves promotion if they hold out, if they dont, I dont see how anyone can class the season as failure - sorry, dissapointing yes, but not failure. I also believe NC is much more pragmatic than most fans - yes he will be acutely aware of teh opportunity and the desire to remain ahead of schedule - I am sure teh right amount of pressure is being applied to Nige, but not to the extent that it will have a negative impact. Nigel is still learning, NC is still learning - as we will do next seaosn no matter what happens. Nige may peek and not be able to take us further, who knows (although I suspect there is more to come form him as his experience and knowedge increases), but to suggest we have somehow failed based on 7 games is mis-judging the situation IMHO.

 

I don't disagree with a lot of that but when things started to go awry in December, if we had only got to top spot by over-achieving, the January window was available to add the extra quality needed to build on that advantage. When you look at what Reading and WHU did in bringing in new players, it does look as if they were more determined to add players who took them up a level than we were. So if we do fail to get promoted it won't be just the final 7 games that will be looked at but also that bad run at mid-season. At the moment Nigel is still making confident noises, and I wouldn't want him to do anything else, but fair or not, it's conceivable that the season may be judged on what happens, not in 7 games, but in 3!

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I don't disagree with a lot of that but when things started to go awry in December, if we had only got to top spot by over-achieving, the January window was available to add the extra quality needed to build on that advantage. When you look at what Reading and WHU did in bringing in new players, it does look as if they were more determined to add players who took them up a level than we were. So if we do fail to get promoted it won't be just the final 7 games that will be looked at but also that bad run at mid-season. At the moment Nigel is still making confident noises, and I wouldn't want him to do anything else, but fair or not, it's conceivable that the season may be judged on what happens, not in 7 games, but in 3!

 

Reading bought Roberts, Wham got Maynard and Vaz Te. We got ...?

 

No-one, apparently.

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Rather than waste your time posting this drivel, get a pen. Get a pad.

 

And write this:

 

"Dear Nigel,

 

Thank you for coming to our club.

 

Thank you for delivering us promotion in your first season, taking over the team in 22nd and finishing 2nd - 3 points behind the league winners.

 

Thank you for making us the fittest team in my living memory.

 

Thank you for bringing the best out of Rickie Lambert and through your fitness regime, making him the best player in the football league - voted by his peers.

 

Thank you for overseeing more wins than any manager in the club's history.

 

Thank you Nigel for bringing us to the brink of Premiership football, playing a style that can be scintilating and as good as any team in Europe on our day.

 

Nigel, just thank you. That is all.

 

And good luck for the final push. You and the players deserve it for the work and sheer team ethic you have demonstrated from day one, hour one, minute one.

 

And for the pleasure you have given me and thirty thousand like me."

 

And if you can't find a pen, I'll send you one. And if you don't write with it, perhaps I'll shove it where your head clearly is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

....and if NA were less polite than I believe him to be ...he could give two fingers to all those people who thought we'd only finish mid-table last August.

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I don't disagree with a lot of that but when things started to go awry in December, if we had only got to top spot by over-achieving, the January window was available to add the extra quality needed to build on that advantage. When you look at what Reading and WHU did in bringing in new players, it does look as if they were more determined to add players who took them up a level than we were. So if we do fail to get promoted it won't be just the final 7 games that will be looked at but also that bad run at mid-season. At the moment Nigel is still making confident noises, and I wouldn't want him to do anything else, but fair or not, it's conceivable that the season may be judged on what happens, not in 7 games, but in 3!

 

As others have pointed we brought in Sharp and Lee - Sharp has had a struggle for sure, but given what he has been through, his goals have won us games and he is starting to get things right - yes its a bit hit and miss but the lad needs time - nothing o thoi splanet must be as awful as losing a child and its to his credit taht he can don the shirt and give it a go... somethings in life are simply more important.... Lee looked a cracking buy until his injury, and I dont think its beyond realism to suggest that his pace and dynamic approach is what we have lacked these last few games - with him in the side I think we would still be sitting top.

 

Its all very well suggesting that its squad depth etc, but there is a limit on what we can affford and want to invest in when still in the NPC - for West Ham, their expensive gamble may pay off given their financial liabilties they NEED to go up or are screwed, so for them play offs is failure, but for us, I still suggest given the above that whatever happens its been a great season and if we dont go up, I wont be looking to blame anyone, maybe just bad luck with injuries to Lambert before Christmas and Lee right now that meant we lost a fresh set up up front, just when we needed it most.... but its not over yet and a good win tomorrow will have us all believing again!

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The watcher is a skate ***** . Toaster

 

People suspect this may be Neil Allen of the pompey news...

 

As we have had so many laughs on his little webchats - the ones that get taken over by Saints fans mugging him off (innernetz stylez), he may have lost it and is having a crack himself...

 

I have told him many times on his webchats that he has just spent the last hour talking to Saints fans and he dosent like it! I would feel pretty stupid too in fairness if I kept falling into the same trap time and time again!

 

Combined with our Jordan Silbey taking the p*ss out of PFC on twitter regarding finances, along with SFC refusing him entry at SMS... maybe its him!

 

Looking forward to the next webchat!

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People suspect this may be Neil Allen of the pompey news...

 

 

Highly unlikely considering that The Watcher has been with us since before this site existed,March 2007 that would have been

back in the the old SaintsForever days or at least this site's predecessor what was it called TSF is that it.Watcher seems to pay his £5 every time as well, not sure that a PEN reporter would do that really,especially as he posts very seldomly.27 posts in

5 years + ain't worth paying yer £5 for or at least for the 4 years that TSW has been in existence.

No, the Watcher is just someone who doesn't rate NA and his crew,a minority opinion to be sure but I'm sure you could find others if you tried.I mean Solent got some Adkins out texts didn't they? can't all be from our Watcher.There are still some who regard Pardew's sacking as unwise and incomprehensible and they're certainly entitled to that opinion,even more so if they pay their £5 which many others don't.

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I've got real concerns for and about about this guy. Our current position not withstanding, he rarely has a plan B, has bought poorly - Saints' success so far has largely been down to either players brought by Pardew or were already in situ- and is undeniably under Cortese's instructions for each and every action that he implements.

 

You can not help but feel sorry for a boss who if Southampton fail to get promoted will be hung out to dry by his chairman or, if succsseful, will be three Premiership defeats away from the sack at any given time should Saints go up.

When Adkins was first touted, we had highs for his independence as he reporedly refused to leave S****horpe without them being properly rewarded but since then has made a bit of an ass of himself through his Pollyanna interviews and twee phases. London to a brick implies he is setting himself up badly here.

 

Before the knockers start, of course I want Saints to go forth and prosper, but the team would definiely be no worse off if Pardew was still in charge.

 

 

Thanks mate for taking the pressure off me for once. I don't envy you all the foul mouthed verbal abuse that will follow your observations from the usual one-celled amoeba's that pose as fans on this site. I could list them all and get 99% of the list right. Whatever you do don't respond to their myopic rantings, I doubt many will construct more than two sentences.

 

As for the Adkins man, his missive of today reaches a new depth of self delusion... "given ourselves an oppurtunity to achieve what we want.." when we've all but blown it from a dominating position?

 

The poor bugger must really be feeling the heat; one senses your predictions will prove all too prophetic.

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one senses your predictions will prove all too prophetic.

 

One senses that you would be quite happy should that prove to be the case - that is why you suffer from the abuse. Us one celled amaeba's (which incidently all amaeba are so the one celled bit is actually superfulous) will continue to 'support' a side that has given us great entertainment and an exciting season, irrespective of the final outcome, whilst you can laugh at us all (I suspect the wind up will bore you one day, but keep going, you may eventually cause some degree of humour... but I doubt it)

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Thanks mate for taking the pressure off me for once. I don't envy you all the foul mouthed verbal abuse that will follow your observations from the usual one-celled amoeba's that pose as fans on this site. I could list them all and get 99% of the list right. Whatever you do don't respond to their myopic rantings, I doubt many will construct more than two sentences.

 

As for the Adkins man, his missive of today reaches a new depth of self delusion... "given ourselves an oppurtunity to achieve what we want.." when we've all but blown it from a dominating position?

 

The poor bugger must really be feeling the heat; one senses your predictions will prove all too prophetic.

 

Ah well. True to form you appear on a knocking thread. How many times is it this season you have predicted that Adkins will be sacked?? Why do you continue to besmirch the name of a great man such as Charlie Wayman with your postings ??

 

If we are one celled amoebas on here why don't you disappear off to join your skate mates along with our mate Neil aka the Watcher. I am sure that you and he will feel at home with the other members of the blue phew.

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Highly unlikely considering that The Watcher has been with us since before this site existed,March 2007 that would have been

back in the the old SaintsForever days or at least this site's predecessor what was it called TSF is that it.Watcher seems to pay his £5 every time as well, not sure that a PEN reporter would do that really,especially as he posts very seldomly.27 posts in

5 years + ain't worth paying yer £5 for or at least for the 4 years that TSW has been in existence.

No, the Watcher is just someone who doesn't rate NA and his crew,a minority opinion to be sure but I'm sure you could find others if you tried.I mean Solent got some Adkins out texts didn't they? can't all be from our Watcher.There are still some who regard Pardew's sacking as unwise and incomprehensible and they're certainly entitled to that opinion,even more so if they pay their £5 which many others don't.

 

Neil Allen and 'The Watcher' have at least one thing in common....a connection to the Daily Echo...

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The problem is one of shifting goal posts - taking the season as whole, back in August only a few extremely optimistic fans were willing to suggest we would occupy one of the 2 auto places with 3 games to go... Its no surprise to me that as the season has progresssed we have found it more difficult - its a long season, other sides that started poorly picked up and many that had invested heavily started to gell. In addition, we needed to adapt and bring in alternative approaches to our passing style, simply because (and this is no criticism) we do not have teh quality for it to work against all standards and tactical approaches.

 

To base the evaluation of the season on last 7 games is simply wrong, and only because we have shifted the goal posts of expectation the longer we remained in the top two. This squad deserves promotion if they hold out, if they dont, I dont see how anyone can class the season as failure - sorry, dissapointing yes, but not failure. I also believe NC is much more pragmatic than most fans - yes he will be acutely aware of teh opportunity and the desire to remain ahead of schedule - I am sure teh right amount of pressure is being applied to Nige, but not to the extent that it will have a negative impact. Nigel is still learning, NC is still learning - as we will do next seaosn no matter what happens. Nige may peek and not be able to take us further, who knows (although I suspect there is more to come form him as his experience and knowedge increases), but to suggest we have somehow failed based on 7 games is mis-judging the situation IMHO.

 

Top post. I honestly think that the prime target was consolidation and 17th would have been acceptable. So whatever happens, the season has been a great success and next year will be even better, even if we are in the same division.

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One senses that you would be quite happy should that prove to be the case - that is why you suffer from the abuse. Us one celled amaeba's (which incidently all amaeba are so the one celled bit is actually superfulous) will continue to 'support' a side that has given us great entertainment and an exciting season' date=' irrespective of the final outcome, whilst you can laugh at us all (I suspect the wind up will bore you one day, but keep going, you may eventually cause some degree of humour... but I doubt it)[/quote']

 

Well said. I for one will be happy to support saints in League 2 if it comes to it !

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Reading bought Roberts, Wham got Maynard and Vaz Te. We got ...?

No-one, apparently.

 

With all due respect there is a need to correct Mr Avenue there, because we did buy two strikers but he can be forgiven for not noticing an immediate impact because one (Lee) had to settle into a completely foreign style of football and the other (Sharp) was not seen by the manager as in contention for a starting place. What we did not buy was any player with an established top level pedigree. Even Chung's international experience is not in a top tier international team.

 

Reading's run since they signed Roberts has been remarkable and WHU already have several players with more Prem experience than any of ours. Of the three clubs, and given our poor performance in Dec, it was Saints who appeared to have the greater need to bring in experience and quality rather than future prospects.

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With all due respect there is a need to correct Mr Avenue there, because we did buy two strikers but he can be forgiven for not noticing an immediate impact because one (Lee) had to settle into a completely foreign style of football and the other (Sharp) was not seen by the manager as in contention for a starting place. What we did not buy was any player with an established top level pedigree. Even Chung's international experience is not in a top tier international team.

 

Reading's run since they signed Roberts has been remarkable and WHU already have several players with more Prem experience than any of ours. Of the three clubs, and given our poor performance in Dec, it was Saints who appeared to have the greater need to bring in experience and quality rather than future prospects.

 

I really don't think that having Premier League experience is the be all and end all in the Champ though. What Saints have got is a squad of players who know how to win; admittedly our form could have been better the last few games, but who's to say any more experienced players would have made the difference?

 

The fact is that Reading could still screw up and lose their last three (highly unlikely I know, but when the finish line is in sight even the best teams in the world slip up). If that were to happen then surely they will bemoan their poor start to the season? Likewise if West Ham don't make it then their fans will be moaning about Big Sam's style of play and their rubbish home form for a long period of time.

 

We have made it a little bit harder for ourselves than needs be, but the fact remains that if we win our last three then we go up whatever happens. I personally believe we will go up with 5 points from the next 3 games (as I reckon West Ham will pick up 7).

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With all due respect there is a need to correct Mr Avenue there, because we did buy two strikers but he can be forgiven for not noticing an immediate impact because one (Lee) had to settle into a completely foreign style of football and the other (Sharp) was not seen by the manager as in contention for a starting place. What we did not buy was any player with an established top level pedigree. Even Chung's international experience is not in a top tier international team.

 

Reading's run since they signed Roberts has been remarkable and WHU already have several players with more Prem experience than any of ours. Of the three clubs, and given our poor performance in Dec, it was Saints who appeared to have the greater need to bring in experience and quality rather than future prospects.

for all your belly aching about adkins etc

we are in a position where we can all be but promoted tonight and top of the league too....

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One senses that you would be quite happy should that prove to be the case - that is why you suffer from the abuse. Us one celled amaeba's (which incidently all amaeba are so the one celled bit is actually superfulous) will continue to 'support' a side that has given us great entertainment and an exciting season' date=' irrespective of the final outcome, whilst you can laugh at us all (I suspect the wind up will bore you one day, but keep going, you may eventually cause some degree of humour... but I doubt it)[/quote']

 

Indeed I would not! All I have ever said is that if we fail to address the shortcomings in our set-up and play and go on pretending that everything in the garden is rosy, doing the same old things in the same old way then we are going to end up get the same old outcome.

 

If Nigel would stop and think before he talks sometimes, he would come to realise that fans are far from being morons who will swallow everything he says. He should think about this. Any ridicule he suffers he brings upon himself. Too much positivity is as bad as too little especially when things aren't going to plan as now.

 

Believe you me I'll be chewing my bloody finger nails down to the quick tonight listening the RS lads and praying that we deliver 3 points and do nothing stupid to screw it up as we did on Friday.

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