doddisalegend Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 Got to say this is a top thread and i'm definitely in the camp that is really non plussed about the premiership. Maybe English football was like German football i'd be more excited, looking after the fans; genuinely competitive; cracking atmospheres; encouraging youth development and local lads playing. Unfortunately it's not, as others have said it's a rotten fu.cking corpse of the game i first started going to in the 80's. When you hear commentators talking with almost pride about the fact only four clubs have one the thing it sickens me. When i see plastic scousers/mancs/chelsea/gunners (delete depending on where you live or work) it angers me. When i have to put up with their fuc.king clueless sh.it that they spout about the lower leagues i feel like slapping them. When they start claiming that they support their club in the same way i do i walk away laughing at the pri.cks. The lower leagues have been a blessing for us as a club, i've gone on record here before to say it's given the club it's soul back. The away days have been immense at times and when you see 200 hartlepool fans coming down on a tuesday night for a game that means fu.ck all to them you realise why we do this crazy thing. As for those saying what do Swansea Norwich fans think? Well i've chatted to quite a few Norwich fans this season and whilst they like playing against the top sides most fu.cking hate the "experience" of a match day. It's been sanitised, they have matches shifted around, they've been shafted by ticket prices away from home and they everyone and their gimp who has access to a sky box having an opinion on their team (whilst forgetting that they used to play in Europe & are hardly a small side). I really, really wish the premier league would fu.ck off to be honest. Honestly i couldn't care less about the English league not being the best in the world, what good has it actually done most of the 92? I want the game back to a state where we can compete again, and by that i don't just mean saints, but sadly those days are as good as over. I'm not certain but i've got a feeling that after the best part of 30 years following saints i probably would be disillusioned to the point of not going anymore if we spent too long in the premiership. Sad thing is if i did i'm sure some mong would take my place & the game would get that little more diluted and dull. Veering off topic slightly i noticed on Friday that we had the first glimpses of the premiership, for probably the first time since we went down i saw a family (i assume) in the northam i'd never seen before, all of them in the new kit holding megastore bags & two of them (probably in their late 20s) with their faces painted. If that's the price for success i'm going to get very bitter very quickly, especially as Cortese is already talking about us becoming a "global brand". I mean FFS have you seen those ****ing mongs on youtube from india etc singing Arsenal or Chelsea songs!? I'm in no way bigoted (hell i've called Charming man out on it a lot of times) but ask yourself honestly do you really want this for our club? Just watch this video a few times and then really seriously think if the premiership is what you want? Cause when i see this kind of crap i don't want it in football at all, let alone our club Barcleys fan of India compentition WTF.................No offence to the bloke in india but how the **** can he support a team from half way round the world he will most likely never see play. How can he have any connection with Arsenal...the way people do with their local team. Still this is what the PL has done to the modern game it's all about global branding and the ££££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 Barcleys fan of India compentition WTF.................No offence to the bloke in india but how the **** can he support a team from half way round the world he will most likely never see play. How can he have any connection with Arsenal...the way people do with their local team. Still this is what the PL has done to the modern game it's all about global branding and the ££££££ So is it OK for some random from the gambia to support us. Whats the difference -the fact we're neither fashionable nor particularly successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 So is it OK for some random from the gambia to support us. Whats the difference -the fact we're neither fashionable nor particularly successful? Not really no. I wouldn't start supporting Bakau United of the Gambain Major League what would be the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Got to say this is a top thread and i'm definitely in the camp that is really non plussed about the premiership. Maybe English football was like German football i'd be more excited, looking after the fans; genuinely competitive; cracking atmospheres; encouraging youth development and local lads playing. Unfortunately it's not, as others have said it's a rotten fu.cking corpse of the game i first started going to in the 80's. When you hear commentators talking with almost pride about the fact only four clubs have one the thing it sickens me. When i see plastic scousers/mancs/chelsea/gunners (delete depending on where you live or work) it angers me. When i have to put up with their fuc.king clueless sh.it that they spout about the lower leagues i feel like slapping them. When they start claiming that they support their club in the same way i do i walk away laughing at the pri.cks. The lower leagues have been a blessing for us as a club, i've gone on record here before to say it's given the club it's soul back. The away days have been immense at times and when you see 200 hartlepool fans coming down on a tuesday night for a game that means fu.ck all to them you realise why we do this crazy thing. As for those saying what do Swansea Norwich fans think? Well i've chatted to quite a few Norwich fans this season and whilst they like playing against the top sides most fu.cking hate the "experience" of a match day. It's been sanitised, they have matches shifted around, they've been shafted by ticket prices away from home and they everyone and their gimp who has access to a sky box having an opinion on their team (whilst forgetting that they used to play in Europe & are hardly a small side). I really, really wish the premier league would fu.ck off to be honest. Honestly i couldn't care less about the English league not being the best in the world, what good has it actually done most of the 92? I want the game back to a state where we can compete again, and by that i don't just mean saints, but sadly those days are as good as over. I'm not certain but i've got a feeling that after the best part of 30 years following saints i probably would be disillusioned to the point of not going anymore if we spent too long in the premiership. Sad thing is if i did i'm sure some mong would take my place & the game would get that little more diluted and dull. Veering off topic slightly i noticed on Friday that we had the first glimpses of the premiership, for probably the first time since we went down i saw a family (i assume) in the northam i'd never seen before, all of them in the new kit holding megastore bags & two of them (probably in their late 20s) with their faces painted. If that's the price for success i'm going to get very bitter very quickly, especially as Cortese is already talking about us becoming a "global brand". I mean FFS have you seen those ****ing mongs on youtube from india etc singing Arsenal or Chelsea songs!? I'm in no way bigoted (hell i've called Charming man out on it a lot of times) but ask yourself honestly do you really want this for our club? Just watch this video a few times and then really seriously think if the premiership is what you want? Cause when i see this kind of crap i don't want it in football at all, let alone our club I have been wanting to say every single bit of what you said, just could never be arsed to right such an essay! I have said over and over again this year, I want us to win the championship, but stay in the championship. Not just because I absolutely love the championship because it is one of the most competitive division in the world, but because of what a travesty the premier league is. The whole set up stinks, the money, the players, the executives and worst of all, the fans. It makes me f*****g cringe seeing some of the F*CKS who turn out at football nowadays. Whenever the camera pans to Anal Funguson on the United bench at OT, have a look behind the dugout... Asians. It is surrounded by Asians. This is no racist slant, so don't get me wrong, but if back in 86' or whenever it was Anal Funguson was one game from getting the pump, should he have gone and Manure were to end up getting relegated and found themselves playing this weekend hosting Doncaster at a capacity 18,000 Old Trafford, would the masses of Asians still be descending on OT? Would there be coaches travelling from Cornwall, Kent, East Anglia & Cumbria week in week out to Old Trafford to see the likes of Peterborough and Watford give them a run for their money!? That is the difference, if Saints were in the Champions League Final playing Barcelona, I would be there bursting with pride... The exact same pride I felt when watching Saints up north on a cold wet Tuesday night in the dregs of League One. If you are a fan of a team, you support them wether you are playing Arsenal or Abingdon, it hurts me to see the game being overrun by people who have no idea what this is all about. These people with money are standing on a terrace in the place of a fan who was priced out years ago, a United fan who would have followed Manchester United when they were guff, unrecognisable to the global brand they are today. That is what I fear for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 All of these posts strike a chord with me, but the biggest problem is of course how NC sees it and what sort of conditions continual financial support from MLS estate are contingent upon. I would love for us to get those points back from Reading over the last 3 games, be crowned Champions then say, f**k off, we are happy where we are. I would laugh until I puked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Whenever the camera pans to Anal Funguson on the United bench at OT, have a look behind the dugout... Asians. It is surrounded by Asians. This is no racist slant, so don't get me wrong, but if back in 86' or whenever it was Anal Funguson was one game from getting the pump, should he have gone and Manure were to end up getting relegated and found themselves playing this weekend hosting Doncaster at a capacity 18,000 Old Trafford, would the masses of Asians still be descending on OT? Would there be coaches travelling from Cornwall, Kent, East Anglia & Cumbria week in week out to Old Trafford to see the likes of Peterborough and Watford give them a run for their money!? Hang on, if old traffords packed out with asians every saturday, whos looking after the shop?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hang on, if old traffords packed out with asians every saturday, whos looking after the shop?? Norty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hang on, if old traffords packed out with asians every saturday, whos looking after the shop?? One of their 57 cousins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Can we drop the racism, gents ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Can we drop the racism, gents ? I just knew somebody would raise that one. Its a joke directly lifted from Goodness Gracious Me, the cast of which you might have noticed are all asian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I just knew somebody would raise that one. Its a joke directly lifted from Goodness Gracious Me, the cast of which you might have noticed are all asian. I couldnt give a sh*t. I am not familiar with the comedy series in question, but it is still drawing on racial cliches and stereotyping to make a negative point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'00' Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 You know youre getting old when you are worried about the morning after instead of the craic youre going to have going on the beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Hang on, if old traffords packed out with asians every saturday, whos looking after the shop?? The Megastore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Another problem with the Prem. Our away fans would get more grief from stewards and OB at home grounds for standing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 (edited) I couldnt give a sh*t. I am not familiar with the comedy series in question, but it is still drawing on racial cliches and stereotyping to make a negative point. B*llocks. Why is it ok for an indian scriptwriting team to write the joke and then perform it on national uk tv, and for me to laugh at the joke, but for me to quote it is racist? And if its such an offensive stereotype, I wonder how the simpsons have got away with blatant racism for 20+ years. edit- Edited 16 April, 2012 by scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Whenever the camera pans to Anal Funguson on the United bench at OT, have a look behind the dugout... Asians. It is surrounded by Asians. I've got no problem with them to be fair, i've heard them interviewed and they're from manchester and go to every game. It's people like a friend of mine who's from Hydrabad but "supports" chelsea and goes through this god awful "banter" with his other friends who support man u etc. Non have ever been to a game yet all are some kind of super fan cause they own the shirt & watch them on sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I have been wanting to say every single bit of what you said, just could never be arsed to right such an essay! I have said over and over again this year, I want us to win the championship, but stay in the championship. Not just because I absolutely love the championship because it is one of the most competitive division in the world, but because of what a travesty the premier league is. The whole set up stinks, the money, the players, the executives and worst of all, the fans. It makes me f*****g cringe seeing some of the F*CKS who turn out at football nowadays. Whenever the camera pans to Anal Funguson on the United bench at OT, have a look behind the dugout... Asians. It is surrounded by Asians. This is no racist slant, so don't get me wrong, but if back in 86' or whenever it was Anal Funguson was one game from getting the pump, should he have gone and Manure were to end up getting relegated and found themselves playing this weekend hosting Doncaster at a capacity 18,000 Old Trafford, would the masses of Asians still be descending on OT? Would there be coaches travelling from Cornwall, Kent, East Anglia & Cumbria week in week out to Old Trafford to see the likes of Peterborough and Watford give them a run for their money!? That is the difference, if Saints were in the Champions League Final playing Barcelona, I would be there bursting with pride... The exact same pride I felt when watching Saints up north on a cold wet Tuesday night in the dregs of League One. If you are a fan of a team, you support them wether you are playing Arsenal or Abingdon, it hurts me to see the game being overrun by people who have no idea what this is all about. These people with money are standing on a terrace in the place of a fan who was priced out years ago, a United fan who would have followed Manchester United when they were guff, unrecognisable to the global brand they are today. That is what I fear for us. Those 'Asians' always sat behind Ferguson have been going years and are local lads, Salford I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 Those 'Asians' always sat behind Ferguson have been going years and are local lads, Salford I think. When I lived up that way there were always plenty of Indian/Asian fans with manc accents going to old trafford, and that was 30 years ago. Its like Lenny Henry said about Enoch Powell's rivers of blood speech, "foreign?? I dunno mate, I come from Dudley"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrimsaint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 I for one, whilst enjoying the promotion ride, will have mixed feelings about promotion. I actually enjoyed going to some of the older grounds in the last few years. Oldham, Sheffield Wednesday, Burnley are all particular highlights for me. Somehow felt part of the football community. Once we get to the premier it will have the glamour and exceptionally talented players we have been craving but also the crass commercialism, sunday evening kickoffs and diving primaddonas that I for one dread. I will remember the last fews years with fondness whilst embracing the next chapter. Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 It will obviously be good to get promotion but it's not a big deal if we don't. The problem is it gets hyped up so much because of the money but there are alot of things better about being in he Championship. Having said that I want us to go up ASAP so I can go on another European trip. Bucharest was superb. My only other experience of watching football abroad is going with England when your surrounded by nuckle-dragging c*nts. Going to some obscure European place and being surrounded by Saints fans was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 It will obviously be good to get promotion but it's not a big deal if we don't. The problem is it gets hyped up so much because of the money but there are alot of things better about being in he Championship. Having said that I want us to go up ASAP so I can go on another European trip. Bucharest was superb. My only other experience of watching football abroad is going with England when your surrounded by nuckle-dragging c*nts. Going to some obscure European place and being surrounded by Saints fans was brilliant. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigersaint Posted 16 April, 2012 Share Posted 16 April, 2012 More than anything else, the one thing I've found so much better (other than winning more often) is not seeing Away fans in the home ends week in an week out as they used to be when we were in the Premier League. At least when we've been at Championship level and League 1 its been pretty much been nothing less than home support. In the Premier League there's nothing worse than jumping up when we score than to find yourself surrounded by away fans as happened to me at The Dell against Leeds in the upper west stand in the mid 90's and got lumped for it. It's rare for that many away fans to be our end of course as it was on that occasion but every week there would always be a few away fans around in the Home ends from supporters of any Club in the top 10, never shy to let themselves known when they scored. Not something I can say I've really seen since we've been down from it. So should we remain in the Championship I'm happy that we'll continue to have Home support in our own stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 17 April, 2012 Share Posted 17 April, 2012 What a refreshing thread, I thought I was all alone and now I found there are loads of us! Like everyone else I'm willing us over the line and kicking every ball, but there are always two possible outcomes: if we go up there will be some good things about being in the Prem but a considerable swathe of negatives to go with it, if we stay down it won't be the end of the world, we'll pick ourselves up and try to do it all again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 April, 2012 Share Posted 17 April, 2012 It will obviously be good to get promotion but it's not a big deal if we don't. The problem is it gets hyped up so much because of the money but there are alot of things better about being in he Championship. Having said that I want us to go up ASAP so I can go on another European trip. Bucharest was superb. My only other experience of watching football abroad is going with England when your surrounded by nuckle-dragging c*nts. Going to some obscure European place and being surrounded by Saints fans was brilliant. agree...totally I really am not fussed what so ever if we blow it or not...the only thing that will pish me off will be the way we would have to fold to blow it....not missing out on the prize itself...and that Lambert would be sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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