Wiggles31 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 The Sun linking us with him. Can't see us wanting to bring him back .... Thankfully. Matt Jarvis on the other hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Silly season has begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 He was absolute carp... No Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 No thanks. Matt Jarvis would be a top signing, but I'd guess he'd go to an already established mid-table team on fairly big wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 No thanks, been at Middlesbrough on loan and has done absolutely nothing. Same old - takes on a man and then no end product. Jarvis however would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I'd rather we signed his brother. More firepower up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 no thanks.. jarvis on the other hand and jamie o'hara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Odd. Seems as though Hammill has really divided opinion on his first stint at Saints. I can't remember ever seeing him myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I hope, should we get promoted, the newspaper hacks make up stories linking us with better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I hope, should we get promoted, the newspaper hacks make up stories linking us with better players. Michael Owen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 He had one great game against Hull when Burley gave him a game playing on the right. So for the rest of the season Burley played him on the left. God I miss Whisky George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Michael Owen? I'm sure he'll be spotted in Winchester any day now, but hopefully not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I hope, should we get promoted, the newspaper hacks make up stories linking us with better players. Not entirely true. Most rumours do have basis in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I'm sure he'll be spotted in Winchester any day now, but hopefully not Well I certainly hope so because the number of pints of rotting milk on the doorstep of his flat is starting to be a bit of a health hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Wasn't Hamill the player that Whisky George managed to turn into a tub of lard? Or am I confusing him with another loanee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Wasn't Hamill the player that Whisky George managed to turn into a tub of lard? Or am I confusing him with another loanee? No you're right, my abiding memory is that he was a fat little ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I suspect we will be linked with all the ****e players on good contracts from the releagted prem clubs as their agents desperately try and hold on to their 15% of a prem salary... thankfully as I understand it we seem to have more common sense as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 (edited) The Sun linking us with him. Can't see us wanting to bring him back .... Thankfully. Matt Jarvis on the other hand. I'm going to start a checklist to debunk all these rumours, and I shall call it the HCDAJFU SCORECARD : Personal Profile(Under 27) (No reported attitude problems) Availability(Not playing regularly for a team in Prem top 4 / Champions League QF) (Out of contract) (Doesn't have unrealistic wage demands) (Not injury prone) Suitability(Experience in League we'll be in / highly rated in the division lower) (Obvious improvement on current player in this position) Other Factors(Not linked with Saints in the media) (Not ridiculously overpriced) (Not being linked with top 4 sides) 11 categories, there I reckon you need at least 8 of these to even be a target. Points off for having any of the following : Negatives (Linked with the club in the red-top print media) (Premier League has-been - say fewer than 10 starts in any of the last 3 seasons at that level whilst at a Prem club) (Ex-Saints) (Rumoured Saints fan) An overall score of 7 is an absolute minimum for serious discussion. Edited 12 April, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I suspect we will be linked with all the ****e players on good contracts from the releagted prem clubs as their agents desperately try and hold on to their 15% of a prem salary... thankfully as I understand it we seem to have more common sense as a club. I hope we are taking a serious look at Ligue 1 and Bundesliga players if we do go up. Just look at some of the bargains Newcastle have picked up and where it's taken them. They got Cabaye for £4 million compared to Liverpool who got Henderson for £18 million! I think we should look at carrying out a combination of Newcastle and Norwich's transfer strategy which would be better than signing some of these Premier League rejects that are getting mentioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 (edited) I should also start a "definitely not signing" list - if a player only has any of these it counts against their score (the last two basically due to the "Lazy Journalism Factor". (Linked with the club in the red-top print media) (Premier League has-been - say fewer than 10 starts in any of the last 3 seasons at that level whilst at a Prem club) (Ex-Saints) (Rumoured Saints fan) Edited 12 April, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Rather than have a thread for every player we'll be linked with between now and August, perhaps we should have a single thread for players we aren't being linked to. That way we keep the whole speculation malarkey down to 14 posts..... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Applying these to Hammill : Personal Profile (Under 27) Y (No reported attitude problems) Y Availability(Not playing regularly for a team in Prem top 4 / Champions League QF) Y (Out of contract) Is he? (Doesn't have unrealistic wage demands) Y (Not injury prone) N Suitability(Experience in League we'll be in / highly rated in the division lower) Y (Obvious improvement on current player in this position) N Other Factors(Not linked with Saints in the media) N (Not ridiculously overpriced) Y (Not being linked with top 4 sides) Y Negatives (Linked with the club in the red-top print media) Y (Premier League has-been - say fewer than 10 starts in any of the last 3 seasons at that level whilst at a Prem club) Y (Ex-Saints) Y (Rumoured Saints fan) N An overall score of 7 is an absolute minimum for serious discussion. Hammill gets : Personal 2 Availability 2.5 Suitability 1 Other 2 Negatives -3 For an overall HCDAJFU of 4.5 - nowhere near the 7 point cut off for serious consideration, though significantly harmed by the "Lazy Journo" factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Let's try Sigurdsson : Personal Profile(Under 27) Y (No reported attitude problems) Y Availability(Not playing regularly for a team in Prem top 4 / Champions League QF) Y (Out of contract) Y (Doesn't have unrealistic wage demands) Y (Not injury prone) Y Suitability(Experience in League we'll be in / highly rated in the division lower) Y (Obvious improvement on current player in this position) Y Other Factors(Not linked with Saints in the media) Y (Not ridiculously overpriced) Dunno (Not being linked with top 4 sides) Maybe? Points off for having any of the following : Negatives (Linked with the club in the red-top print media) N (Premier League has-been - say fewer than 10 starts in any of the last 3 seasons at that level whilst at a Prem club) N (Ex-Saints) N (Rumoured Saints fan) N An overall score of 7 is an absolute minimum for serious discussion. Sigurdsson scores Personal 2 Availability 4 Suitability 2 Other 2 Negatives -0 Total 10 out of 11, a definite HCDAJFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 If someone could find me a -4 I'd be amused... I'm thinking Anthony Pulis could be in with a shout, if only his media profile was higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Wasn't Hamill the player that Whisky George managed to turn into a tub of lard? Or am I confusing him with another loanee? I remember he came on as a sub in that cup tie when we got knocked out by Bristol Rovers, he was massive. Some other fat bloke scored a free kick against us and we lost 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I remember he came on as a sub in that cup tie when we got knocked out by Bristol Rovers, he was massive. Some other fat bloke scored a free kick against us and we lost 1-0. So if he's improved as much as the other fatty you refer to we should sign him up pronto :-) I blame Whisky George fairly and squarely for any porkiness amongst our players at the time. Its what happens when you are a complete retard of a coach and you lose your assistant who made you look something like decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Here go the agents. He's not been great for M'Boro to be honest, but he flopped in the premiership for wolves too. Wouldn't see him as an improvement to our right-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Here go the agents. He's not been great for M'Boro to be honest, but he flopped in the premiership for wolves too. Wouldn't see him as an improvement to our right-side. Spot-on. Snodgrass / Matt Phillips / Zaha all WAY better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Scored a few long rangers for Barnsley - otherwise meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Spot-on. Snodgrass / Matt Phillips / Zaha all WAY better options. One Those 3 or Victor Moses, Jarvis or Peter Whittigham. O'hara for the middle. FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Danny Guthrie on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz@Maybush Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 One Those 3 or Victor Moses, Jarvis or Peter Whittigham. O'hara for the middle. FACT. Yep, good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Spot-on. Snodgrass / Matt Phillips / Zaha all WAY better options. Zaha was left side and is not really all that... Pretty much an English Steve De Ridder (with a decent step over instead of a knock forward and run) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I'd take Thomas Ince for the right side in a second, he's been consistently successful for a few months now, has become a regular for Blackpool with assists and goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Zaha was left side and is not really all that... Pretty much an English Steve De Ridder (with a decent step over instead of a knock forward and run) Disagree, he put a fair few good balls in towards the far post but had no real support. In terms of beating players he had Fox on toast but we could afford to double-team him every time because he was literally their one and only threat. I would imagine its the same with most teams who play Palace so I don't think he'll flourish there. I'd take a gamble on him, reckon we could get him for 4 or 5 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I'd take Thomas Ince for the right side in a second, he's been consistently successful for a few months now, has become a regular for Blackpool with assists and goals. going to be a cracking player....he was mustered against us and other games I have seen of them lot on the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 he was mustered against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 musteredThat is a gem. Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 We don't want Chubba Hamill back thanks - he was crap last time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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