SuperMikey Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 This Saturday at 4.15. Anyone laid their bets on yet? I'm heading down to the bookies tomorrow to get mine on. Going to have a few quid each on the following: West End Rocker Cappa Bleu On His Own Always Waining Treacle Killyglen Any tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 This Saturday at 4.15. Anyone laid their bets on yet? I'm heading down to the bookies tomorrow to get mine on. Going to have a few quid each on the following: West End Rocker Cappa Bleu On His Own Always Waining Treacle Killyglen Any tips? Best to wait until the day of the race - the odds will be better as the bookies will all be looking to outdo each other on the day. Take the best early price available and/or link with the special offers - paying 5 places, money back etc. Worst thing to do is to leave your bet at SP (starting price). Most of the online bookies will pay the SP anyway if the price you take is less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Have backed cappa blue and Killyglen on betfair at 30/1 and 50/1,Saints beat Reading on Friday one of these two wins on Saturday = SERENDIPITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Just drawn Calgary Bay in the company sweepstake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 synchronised is my choice, classy horse and good jockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Dave Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Don't ever go too big on anything in the National - it's too much of a lottery as the field is so great - form horses can get taken down too easily as they're so congested going over fences & you also have problems with loose horses. Treat it as a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Will be at Aintree this weekend - looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 This Saturday at 4.15. Anyone laid their bets on yet? I'm heading down to the bookies tomorrow to get mine on. Going to have a few quid each on the following: West End Rocker Cappa Bleu On His Own Always Waining Treacle Killyglen Any tips? Surely by betting on so many horses in one race, and each way what is more, you are pretty much guaranteed to lose overall even if one of them actually wins? Why not cut out the middle man and just give the cash away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 12 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 12 April, 2012 Best to wait until the day of the race - the odds will be better as the bookies will all be looking to outdo each other on the day. Take the best early price available and/or link with the special offers - paying 5 places, money back etc. Worst thing to do is to leave your bet at SP (starting price). Most of the online bookies will pay the SP anyway if the price you take is less. Thanks for the advice, going to wait a few days to place my bets now. Always Waining withdrew from the 40 this morning, so i'm down to 5 horses (£1 each e/w). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 VNeck - hell of a jumper Dusty Mat - never been beaten Lunchtime 12-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted 12 April, 2012 Share Posted 12 April, 2012 I'll be there, been every year since '99 with my old pals from Liverpool Uni. I've somehow managed to back the winner 5 times in the last 12 years, despite knowing bugger-all about horse racing! My tip for this year is... back the winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 As Cheltenham thread readers know, I can't bet on horses for shizzle, although I did OK this year TBF, but for the National I'm going for On His Own to win, and a cheeky each way on Calgary Bay. I'm looking for a third horse, but I'm not sure which yet. Tempted by Shakalakaboomboom, which has got good form over fences, or Seabass, which has won all of it's recent races, and could be the first time a woman rider wins the National. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Hardest race of the year to choose a winner, yet it's the race everyone bets on. Weird Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Seabass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 chicago grey sir mick shannon has tipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 ladies day at Aintree all that fake scouse tan on show I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 One of the horses has thrown his jockey off 2 mins before the race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 One of the horses has thrown his jockey off 2 mins before the race Synchronised but AP and horse are fine and still taking part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 14 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Well, Cappa Bleu was one of mine and he placed 4th. All my other bets threw their riders off. Never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Synchronised but AP and horse are fine and still taking part.wasn't fine for long, fell 6 fences later and shot. Brutal race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Oh what a surprise... another two horses dead after this year's race. But hey, it doesn't matter because a few people have won a few quid having had a lovely day drinking bubbly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Oh what a surprise... another two horses dead after this year's race. But hey, it doesn't matter because a few people have won a few quid having had a lovely day drinking bubbly A footballer died in Italy this afternoon - should we think about banning that ? Sadly, horses can be killed at any of the National Hunt courses, plus any cross country, point to point, or local hunt meets. Richard Pitman was telling a story on R5 on Thursday about one of Ginger McCain's horses that died on a training run on Southport beach. Should horse riding as a concept be stopped ? Ironically there is a line of thought that says because they have made the Aintree course 'easier' it will make for more tragedies, as owners and trainers will be tempted to enter horses that really shouldn't be considered. I have held the head of one of my daughter's ponies as it was put to sleep, due to serious illness. All the owners trainers and jockeys in racing feel affection for their horses, but beleive that they enjoy what they do. You wouldn't put something you love through that it you felt otherwise, and 3/4 of a ton of highly tuned muscle won't go where it doesn't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 wasn't fine for long, fell 6 fences later and shot. Brutal race Seriously? That's terrible. He will be a huge loss to racing, got to be regarded as the best jockey ever. RIP Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 ladies day at Aintree all that fake scouse tan on show I see Good job it does not fall on the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster then, otherwise it might have to be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Oh what a surprise... another two horses dead after this year's race. But hey, it doesn't matter because a few people have won a few quid having had a lovely day drinking bubbly Without racing, these horses just plain wouldn't exist. Personally I'd rather be shot than never have been born. Still sad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 A footballer died in Italy this afternoon - should we think about banning that ? Sadly, horses can be killed at any of the National Hunt courses, plus any cross country, point to point, or local hunt meets. Richard Pitman was telling a story on R5 on Thursday about one of Ginger McCain's horses that died on a training run on Southport beach. Should horse riding as a concept be stopped ? Ironically there is a line of thought that says because they have made the Aintree course 'easier' it will make for more tragedies, as owners and trainers will be tempted to enter horses that really shouldn't be considered. I have held the head of one of my daughter's ponies as it was put to sleep, due to serious illness. All the owners trainers and jockeys in racing feel affection for their horses, but beleive that they enjoy what they do. You wouldn't put something you love through that it you felt otherwise, and 3/4 of a ton of highly tuned muscle won't go where it doesn't want to. They could make it much safer though. For starters they could move some of those f*ck off great big fences out the way before making them run round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 A footballer died in Italy this afternoon - should we think about banning that ? Footballers, and other sportspeople, know the risks and choose to take them. Horses don't get given the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Footballers, and other sportspeople, know the risks and choose to take them. Horses don't get given the choice. Horses generally love racing. The ones that don't are no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Horses generally love racing. The ones that don't are no good. "Excuse me mr horse, I want to ride you in a race today where there is a decent chance you will end up getting shot. What do you say to that?" Imagine if you could actually ask them that... how many do you think would agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 "Excuse me mr horse, I want to ride you in a race today where there is a decent chance you will end up getting shot. What do you say to that?" Imagine if you could actually ask them that... how many do you think would agree? well, you can't deny it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Horses generally love racing. The ones that don't are no good. There's a bit of a difference between an animal enjoying running and knowing the risks involved in a grand national style race. I'm pretty sure they are not aware that a fracture in their leg means a bullet in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 terrible results football wise and sad that two horses had to be put down. but i picked the winner so feeling alittle bit better.:badger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 "Excuse me mr horse, I want to ride you in a race today where there is a decent chance you will end up getting shot. What do you say to that?" Imagine if you could actually ask them that... how many do you think would agree? I think you watch too much Walt Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 I think you watch too much Walt Disney. Sadly the Walt Disney world of talking horses doesn't exist, so we humans make their decisions for them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 The ones that are good enough to race are the lucky ones. To use a football analogy, many are taken on as youngsters and released if they are not good enough - the difference being that released footballers generally don't end up as tea for the local hunt's hounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Sadly the Walt Disney world of talking horses doesn't exist, so we humans make their decisions for them, I can promise you that there would have been a lot of tears today from the connections of those horses. If you are really concerned about animal welfare you should think more about where your burgers come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 They need to reform the race. It's not fair that horses are led to their deaths every year. Something has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 They need to reform the race. It's not fair that horses are led to their deaths every year. Something has to change. Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Erm do the foxes that get chased by knob heads in red regalia on horseback get a choice? No, but thats ok apparently - did the hunt leader say to the horse "good morning Mr Ed, fancy me riding you today while we lead a pack of blood hounds to rip apart a few foxes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 I can promise you that there would have been a lot of tears today from the connections of those horses. If you are really concerned about animal welfare you should think more about where your burgers come from. What makes you assume I don't already? I have no doubt those horses trainers / handlers will be upset this evening, maybe it will even make them think twice about entering their horses into it in the future but I won't hold my breath because I know that money talks and some people make millions from horseracing. It's not just the grand national I object to, its the 'industry' in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Thanks for that. No, thankyou Turkish... my love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 What makes you assume I don't already? I have no doubt those horses trainers / handlers will be upset this evening, maybe it will even make them think twice about entering their horses into it in the future but I won't hold my breath because I know that money talks and some people make millions from horseracing. It's not just the grand national I object to, its the 'industry' in general. This reply is not from Jill, but her husband, who has forgotten his log in details, anyway here we go..... Very few people make millions from horseracing industry especially in relation to NH season, if there are millions to be made from the industry it may in fact be in the flat season but only in relation to stud fees for a black type race winner, and it should also maybe be remembered that a horse called Rewilding at to be put down at Royal Ascot on the flat last year due to splitting a pastern bone, and also in the Grand National meeting on Friday I beleive a horse had to be put down after suffering an injury in a hurdle race, the injury was incurred between fences, so to suggest that modifying fences would result in less/zero injuries is false. The history of horseracing is centuries old, based on the old 'match' racing concept of 2 owners having horses and having a contest on whose horse was quickest, based at Newmarket racecourse, and this will in effect never end. To suggest that owners/trainers/jockeys are not in any way concerned about the death of a horse in their care is a spurious argument, made obvious if you ever read any articles/books by people such as Paul Nicholls/Ruby Walsh/Jenny Pitman/Peter O'Sullevan to name a few. The owner of todays Grand National had always been reluctant/resistant to running any of his horses in the National due to the admitted increased risk of injury in the race, so that in itself belies the argument of people making millions from the sport, I would assume he let his horse take his chance on the day for what in effect it was 'bred to do'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Seriously? That's terrible. He will be a huge loss to racing, got to be regarded as the best jockey ever. RIP Tony. Well, it made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 £10 each way on the winner at 33-1 . Nice and Synchronised jumped about another 5 fences after AP fell off. Nobody made the horse do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 and Synchronised jumped about another 5 fences after AP fell off. Nobody made the horse do that. This. But none of them will want to discuss that because it is yet more proof that race horses (that are only alive because of races like this) do in fact enjoy jumping and racing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 Bexy is a forum wet Fannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-17719966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 Just got back from the meet. I have to say that the scouse girls are a cross between townie and big fat gypsy wedding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 15 April, 2012 Share Posted 15 April, 2012 Both me and my wife had the winner in different work sweepstakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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