TopGun Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 20 dead on a Russian sub. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7718156.stm What's it all about TDD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 hmmm....dont know, the ruskies so things very differently to say what we do or the yanks... looks like it was some sort of fixed stream/drench fireighting system..maybe some sort of Haylon gas?? also, the news piece says it was an Akula which was due to be leased to the Indians....HMMMmmm, the Russians leasing out an Akula??? VERY MUCH DOUBT IT....unless, it was a clap trap old one...but even then, debatable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 christ, i can't believe that other sub sank 8 years ago!!! :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 It was launched on 4th July 2006 and is a class II Akula with extended length. It was one of two due to be leased to India (the agreement was signed in 2005) and it looks like the deployment of the fire extinguishing system caused the deaths. The reports said it was Freon released, but I would think that it was Halon as I don't think even the Russians would use Freon any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 It was launched on 4th July 2006 and is a class II Akula with extended length. It was one of two due to be leased to India (the agreement was signed in 2005) and it looks like the deployment of the fire extinguishing system caused the deaths. The reports said it was Freon released, but I would think that it was Halon as I don't think even the Russians would use Freon any more. we use freon (not as a firefighting system)....more as a coolant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 we use freon (not as a firefighting system)....more as a coolant Exactly, freon is used (or was) in fridges and freezers, whereas halon was used as the extinguishing agent in fires in electrical control rooms and computer suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 christ, i can't believe that other sub sank 8 years ago!!! :shock: i know..that one was a real shock...that class of sub (that was the kursk) is the biggest attack boat in the world and is able to dive deeper than any other submarine in the world and is litterally armed to the teeth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 I expect these things happen because of women being on board, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 November, 2008 Share Posted 9 November, 2008 No, I think it was something to do with the fire extinguishing system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 i know..that one was a real shock...that class of sub (that was the kursk) is the biggest attack boat in the world and is able to dive deeper than any other submarine in the world and is litterally armed to the teeth... The Kursk was an Oscar class sub which are SSGNs not attack subs (SSNs). The role of an SSGN is to trail and destroy carriers, hence why they armed to the teeth. However, back the original theme of this thread: On Russian TV they said that this Akula II (probably the best type of sub in the world) was due to be accepted into the Russian Pacific Fleet at the end of this year. They also said that the cause of deaths was that the firefighting system was accidentaly trigured, which released Freon gas into a compartment. As others have mentioned, Halon gas is what we use but I guess the Russians do still use Freon. N.B. Halon will also kill quite quickly as it removes oxygen from the compartment. There was also some mention about India taking some Akulas, but they didn't say this was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 A shipyard source told the RIA Novosti news agency the vessel was the K-152 Nerpa, an Akula-class submarine, but this has not been confirmed. Russian Pacific Fleet spokesman Igor Dygalo said there had been no radiation leaks The Nerpa is due to be leased to the Indian navy, and Indian naval personnel were due to travel to Vladivostok earlier this month to train on board the submarine ahead of its transfer, according to the website Indian Defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 The Kursk was an Oscar class sub which are SSGNs not attack subs (SSNs). The role of an SSGN is to trail and destroy carriers, hence why they armed to the teeth. However, back the original theme of this thread: On Russian TV they said that this Akula II (probably the best type of sub in the world) was due to be accepted into the Russian Pacific Fleet at the end of this year. They also said that the cause of deaths was that the firefighting system was accidentaly trigured, which released Freon gas into a compartment. As others have mentioned, Halon gas is what we use but I guess the Russians do still use Freon. N.B. Halon will also kill quite quickly as it removes oxygen from the compartment. There was also some mention about India taking some Akulas, but they didn't say this was one of them. I just cannot believe that the russians would loan out such a a submarine...as for akulas...i would agree with you as I have quite a bit of experience in this area (im sure you get me..) and the idea of the russians letting the indians get their hands on them is quite extraordinary...they might aswell email the blade rates and signature tones of Akula II's to the admiralty to save us the time in going to other parts of the world to find out... as this is effectively what they are doing by lending them to the indians... SSGN and SSN are classed as the same thing these days.....all RN attack boats are SSGN due to the fact they all cary TLAM (tommahawk cruise missiles).... but what is a few letters in the name of destruction..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 November, 2008 Share Posted 10 November, 2008 Must have been too many G I Olgas in the crew then.:mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 11 November, 2008 Share Posted 11 November, 2008 I just cannot believe that the russians would loan out such a a submarine...as for akulas...i would agree with you as I have quite a bit of experience in this area (im sure you get me..) and the idea of the russians letting the indians get their hands on them is quite extraordinary...they might aswell email the blade rates and signature tones of Akula II's to the admiralty to save us the time in going to other parts of the world to find out... as this is effectively what they are doing by lending them to the indians... SSGN and SSN are classed as the same thing these days.....all RN attack boats are SSGN due to the fact they all cary TLAM (tommahawk cruise missiles).... but what is a few letters in the name of destruction..lol I concur 100% with this post. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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