The Titanic Conspiracy

[Viking Warrior]

whats this Titanic conspiracy.

 

First I was aware off it http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_conspiracy_theory.shtml

 

Seems like someone is trying to change history

 

Anybody shed any light on this

[Saint-scooby]

Some ginger geek with nothing else better to do.......

 

It will be Marie Celeste next

[Thedelldays]

that is why there are numerous recordings from times gone by, of the people on deck playing football/snowballs with lumps of ice/snow from the iceberg

 

how could that be if it was not an iceberg but another ship

 

how embarrassing

[Huffton]

that is why there are numerous recordings from times gone by, of the people on deck playing football/snowballs with lumps of ice/snow from the iceberg

 

how could that be if it was not an iceberg but another ship

 

how embarrassing

 

I don't believe it, but he does try ans explain that by saying it was ice that had accumulated on titanics ropes that was shaken free by the engines vibrations.

[OldNick]

Just found out that William McMaster Murdoch is a distant relative on my mothers side. He was First Officer when they hit the iceberg, he shot some of the passengers who tried rushing the lifeboats. Quite a hero in Scotland in a small town near Dunfries.

[OldNick]

Just found out that William McMaster Murdoch is a distant relative on my mothers side. He was First Officer when they hit the iceberg, he shot some of the passengers who tried rushing the lifeboats. Quite a hero in Scotland in a small town near Dunfries.

[Thedelldays]

he shot himself on the film

[Verbal]

he shot himself on the film

 

I thought oldnick was still alive.

[The Kraken]

he shot himself on the film

 

I think there was a bit of uproar about the way he was depicted in the film; they portrayed him as a coward when in actual fact he was nothing of the sort. I also think James Cameron or the movie production company sent an apology to his family about how they mis-represented him.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

The Olympic/Titanic swap conspiracy is a old yarn that has been comprehensibly rubbished by proper historians who (unlike the author of this tall tale) do actually know what they are talking about.

 

To believe in this nonsense, first both ships would have had to be significantly altered (the two sister ships were similar but not identical if you know what you are looking for) and you'd then have to believe that the many hundreds, if not thousands, of both H & W shipyard workers, White Star Line employees, & their family's involved in this conspiracy could keep this massive fraud secret for many decades. Even if we were to accept that gloriously unlikely scenario, there is (immovable) physical evidence observable on the wreck that the hull is indeed that of the RMS Titanic.

 

But just to confuse the issue however, the two ships are often misidentified. To this very day a great many photographs portioning to show the Titanic, are actually images of the Olympic.

[Viking Warrior]

I agree totally with you chapel end . It's sad that these idiot come to light on such a major anniversary . Sad people indeed

[hutch]

Just found out that William McMaster Murdoch is a distant relative on my mothers side. He was First Officer when they hit the iceberg, he shot some of the passengers who tried rushing the lifeboats. Quite a hero in Scotland in a small town near Dunfries.

Did he get away with it?

[alpine_saint]

I think there was a bit of uproar about the way he was depicted in the film; they portrayed him as a coward when in actual fact he was nothing of the sort. I also think James Cameron or the movie production company sent an apology to his family about how they mis-represented him.

 

This is true, though I dont think it was about cowardice, more to do with accepting a bribe about filling lifeboats.

 

The Olmypic / Titanic swap conspiracy story is an old one. There was a documentary on Sky many years ago that analysed it and I seem to recall, there was simply too much work to do in too short a time to change the superifical changes in B and C deck, and the bridge wings, back to be the same.

 

Though in fairness, there are still questions about Californian's behaviour and the convenient cargo of Carpathia.

Edited 12 April, 2012 by alpine_saint

[OldNick]

Did he get away with it?

Lol sadly not, now if he was Pompey he would have had his own boat with the worlds best rowers all paid for by St Johns Ambulance

[This Charming Man]

I thought the Titanic was sunk by the CIA?

[alpine_saint]

I also heard an intriguing story about IRA involvement a few weeks ago too.

[Ken Tone]

This is as likely as the story that Elvis piloted the ship to the moon, where Hitler is still living, apart from returning briefly to Earth to murder Princess Di, aided by the Roswell aliens.

[pfc123]

If they hadn't tried to go to port on sighting the iceberg, the ship would almost certainly survived. Even at 21 knots a head on collision would have taken out maybe 20-30 feet of the bow, but she would have survived the impact. Going to port sent her down. Easy to say with hindsight I suppose.....

[aintforever]

Going to port sent her down. Easy to say with hindsight I suppose.....

 

You think?!

 

"Iceberg, right ahead sir"

 

"OK, lets cut our loses and plough straight into it"

[badgerx16]

You think?!

 

"Iceberg, right ahead sir"

 

"OK, lets cut our loses and plough straight into it"

 

To be fair to PFC, he is quoting what a lot of marine engineers have said. There are examples of just this sort of thing.

 

 

Ironically, if the Titanic had not altered course to the south, to avoid the known ice field, she would have missed the berg she hit.

[aintforever]

To be fair to PFC, he is quoting what a lot of marine engineers have said. There are examples of just this sort of thing.

 

 

Ironically, if the Titanic had not altered course to the south, to avoid the known ice field, she would have missed the berg she hit.

 

I do understand how a glancing blow was worse than a head on collision. I just found "it's easy to say in hindsight I suppose" a bit funny.

 

As if the captain could have made any other decision than try and avoid the thing.

 

As for the conspiracy theory, that's got more holes in it that the ship herself. Complete nonsense, like the 9/11 conspiracies, it would mean so many people have to be complicit in mass murder that it simply could not be true.

Edited 18 April, 2012 by aintforever