Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Fast becoming our biggest problem in the run in. So should get the nod on Monday: Guly, Chaplow, De Ridder, Puncheon or even Falque? I think it'll be Chappers but I'm wondering if Falque could be put in as the surprise package?
Saint Garrett Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Puncheon or Chaplow, PLEASE not Guly.....I actually quite like him, but he doesnt deserve to start on Monday after todays performance.
itchen_dan Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Really really wish Falque would get another go in the side. quality player with plenty of ability but don't know whether it is seen as too much of a risk to play him. Heart says Falque but my head is saying Puncheon or Chaplow. I think Puncheon would be the better choice due to him having plenty of rest and he'll be the fittest and ready to go of all options I would've thought. Just think that he'll be the best option due to his trickery and ability on the ball as their left back (Parr) isn't the best at defending.
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Would be a bit surprised if we saw Falque between now and the end of the season.
Badger Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 I said Puncheon for today's game. But serious question, if selected can we rely on him to put in the full effort and commitment required, or will he give us a Gulyesque , just going through the motions , type of effort ?
SNSUN Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Puncheon, but I suspect it'll be Chaplow. 4* options, Guly, SDR, Chaplow and Punch and we're struggling to find a fit. Jokes. Do we have any yoof players we could use? *EDIT: After belatedly reading the rest of the thread, I'd forgotten about Falque! Start Rickie on the right and have Barnard up front with Billy! Done.
Saint_clark Posted 7 April, 2012 Posted 7 April, 2012 Really really wish Falque would get another go in the side. quality player with plenty of ability but don't know whether it is seen as too much of a risk to play him. Heart says Falque but my head is saying Puncheon or Chaplow. I think Puncheon would be the better choice due to him having plenty of rest and he'll be the fittest and ready to go of all options I would've thought. Just think that he'll be the best option due to his trickery and ability on the ball as their left back (Parr) isn't the best at defending. How do you know? Not knocking you, just a genuine question.
Avenue Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I'd have pubcheon Chaplow, cork, lallana and falque all playing behind lambert. 4-5-1! Get control of midfield again with quality linking up with lambert.
itchen_dan Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 How do you know? Not knocking you, just a genuine question. He showed plenty of ability v Leicester with good control and some good movement, just it was the wrong game for his debut with almost half of our team out injured. I've seen the highlights of the development games and he has scored a couple of brilliant goals (one running from the half way line beating about 3 players and then scoring with the outside of his foot on the half volley) and Martin Hunter is always praising him in the interviews afterwards. I'd give him a go. I think that with him on one side and Lallana on the other we could tear teams apart. Can't be any worse than we're currently getting on the right.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I will leave the choice to Nigel Adkins and support whatever decision he makes as should you all..
Give it to Ron Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Puncheon or Chaplow, PLEASE not Guly.....I actually quite like him, but he doesnt deserve to start on Monday after todays performance. Exactly my thoughts I was a Guly fan but after todays performance I cannot defend him one bit. He will start on Monday. How could Puncheon or Chaplow who did ok at Blackpool be any worse? The problem is Palace have two very quick wingers and we need someone who will cover - Guly is not that person.
Joesaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I would play Chaplow in the middle with cork and not have Guly in. I would have Punchon but may sub at sixty min for the impact of de ridder, although someone needs to have a word to help get them both sharper!! COYS lets do it!
Big_Bald_Si Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Is Puncheon injured still or just out of favour? I think he's been great in the appearances he's made since he's been back in the fold. I'd be tempted to put him in the centre - I think we're desperately lacking in movement sometimes and reckon he'd be fantastic there.
Asaint4ever Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Falque is rated best player in the Southampton squad on FIFA
saintscottofthenortham Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Falque is rated best player in the Southampton squad on FIFA Cool story bro.
S-Clarke Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Is Puncheon injured still or just out of favour? I think he's been great in the appearances he's made since he's been back in the fold. I'd be tempted to put him in the centre - I think we're desperately lacking in movement sometimes and reckon he'd be fantastic there. Not sure if he was ever injured, he just hasn't been great for us. His performance in the first half against Leeds is still fresh in my memory, he was absolutely useless. Much more useless than Guly has ever been, and I don't think he's been in the team since then. A shame really as I thought he'd take his chance, but for some reason he doesn't 'fit' here.
gammon cheeks Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Surely Puncheon must be given a chance again . We got him back at not his fittest to be honest but he is a better option then guly surely? Also i would put back chaplow in the centre as he is miore of a goal threat and makes that last minute run into the box .
redkeith Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I think Chaplow will be on the bench, to give us CM cover. Probably best to start with whoever gives Richardson best cover. Guly didn't yesterday and SDR gave te ball away in dangerous positions. Not sure Puncheon or Falque would be any better defensively. It wouldn't be so much of a problem if we had a proper Defensive Midfield player, like the one Brum have on loan from St Etiene. Cork and Hammond are just bulk standard English midfielders, run about a bit, pass a bit, tackle a bit. Morgan is more of a creator, we need a more destructive option. A Makellelee/Mascherano type of player would have been on top of Norris at the end yesterday, and would cope better with players cutting inside the full backs.
steadyeddie Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Team against Palace - Davis, Butterfield, Harding, Jos, Jose, Lallana, Cork, Hammond, Chaplow, Lambert & Sharp - Subs Martin, Richardson, Puncheon, Barnard, De Ridder
Give it to Ron Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Team against Palace - Davis, Butterfield, Harding, Jos, Jose, Lallana, Cork, Hammond, Chaplow, Lambert & Sharp - Subs Martin, Richardson, Puncheon, Barnard, De Ridder Harding over Fox are you joking?? Did you miss Butterfield performance against Blackpool?
DrunkenSaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Anyone but Guly but a friend of mines reckons he'll play whenever fit as it's in his contract or NA fancies him either way he is poor and we have better options than him at this stage of the season. I say we give Punch a game.
steadyeddie Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Harding over Fox are you joking?? Did you miss Butterfield performance against Blackpool? Did I say it was my choice Ron ? NA said he was going to use the squad over Easter. He will rest some, after Saturday's excitement, and others will get their chance.
shurlock Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 TBF, Punch has put in a proper defensive shift whenever he's started - just it hasn't quite clicked at the other end (tho do like him down the middle). Got a hat-trick last time he played palace. Think he'll shine back in his native bandit country.
damers Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 How about Richardson in front of Butterfield? Gives us a bit more steel and Richardson further forward to put the crosses in....
Saints 6 Derby 4 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Anyone but Guly but a friend of mines reckons he'll play whenever fit as it's in his contract or NA fancies him either way he is poor and we have better options than him at this stage of the season. I say we give Punch a game. Punch had his chance at Hull and spurned it. Guly's stats speak for themselves.
trousers Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I know the answer to this suggestion already (i.e. too risky to throw him in at this stage of the season) but I'll pose it anyway... Ward-Prowse anyone? "He who dares Rodney, he who dares..."
CanadaSaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 The injury to Schneiderlin changes everything and it's not just about the right side of midfield any more. De Ridder is quite uni-dimensional and if we can't get him the ball early (a big problem with the way we play) we're better off not playing him. Falque probably has the skills but I'm not sure he's really been on Nigel's radar screen since the Leicester game, and - besides - he's a bit young to be thrown into the cauldron of a promotion race, especially as he looked rather intimidated against Leicester. My hunch is that he'll give Hammond the role performed by Schneiderlin (yes, I'm groaning too), and use either Chaplow or Puncheon on the right. My preference would be Puncheon because I think he's more versatile, but that might be the very reason he starts on the bench.
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Morgan has just had stitches in his leg. Sorry guys but that means Guly at RM, Chappers will be playing CM against Palace or Reading as NA will need to rotate the 3 fit CM's we have. Cork was out on his feet in the last few minutes. Puncheon should make the bench, as he can also play in the Diamond as the only other option we will have will be JWP & cannot see that happening in the next two matches. It will be CM that determines who starts on the right next two games, and FFS if it IS Guly then we NEED him to perform tomorrow night so lay off him.
shurlock Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 The injury to Schneiderlin changes everything and it's not just about the right side of midfield any more. De Ridder is quite uni-dimensional and if we can't get him the ball early (a big problem with the way we play) we're better off not playing him. Falque probably has the skills but I'm not sure he's really been on Nigel's radar screen since the Leicester game, and - besides - he's a bit young to be thrown into the cauldron of a promotion race, especially as he looked rather intimidated against Leicester. My hunch is that he'll give Hammond the role performed by Schneiderlin (yes, I'm groaning too), and use either Chaplow or Puncheon on the right. My preference would be Puncheon because I think he's more versatile, but that might be the very reason he starts on the bench. Guess you weren't at the Watford or Ipswich games where we hit Lee very early - though, strangely, we didn't do it against Barnsley. We do get the ball early -we just get it to Lambert, not down the flanks. When SDR played close to Lambert (Cardiff away), he did very well.
jimbojones10 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Definitely not De Ridder! Don't understand why people slag off guly, when we have sdr blazing crosses into the crowd 9 out of ten times playing the wrong ball. Play puncheon on monday if hes fit.
CanadaSaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 (edited) Guess you weren't at the Watford or Ipswich games where we hit Lee very early - though, strangely, we didn't do it against Barnsley. We do get the ball early -we just get it to Lambert, not down the flanks. When SDR played close to Lambert (Cardiff away), he did very well. I’m sure you’re right – I didn’t see the Watford game, and I was suspended 36,000 feet above the Atlantic, cursing Air Canada, when I should have been watching the Ipswich game. However, I wasn't talking about Lee but about De Ridder, although a similar issue applies IMO. SDR didn’t get the early ball he needs against Blackpool (few did), or against Donny, or yesterday. All I'm saying is that if we can't play to his skills reasonably consistently (or if his skills don't suit our tactics very well) we probably shouldn't play him because I'm not sure he brings many other things to the table. Edited 8 April, 2012 by CanadaSaint Afterthoughts
bpsaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Without slating Guly too much it's clear he goes missing at RM when it comes to getting back to defend, so bearing in mind he'll be up against Wilfried Zaha tomorrow it's best we prepare accordingly.
bender Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 I will leave the choice to Nigel Adkins and support whatever decision he makes as should you all.. Yes but we can chat about it in the meantime.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 I will leave the choice to Nigel Adkins and support whatever decision he makes as should you all.. Where do you park your brain when you're not using it ? Back to the question, we should all know by now that Guly will start of course regardless.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 Where do you park your brain when you're not using it ? Back to the question, we should all know by now that Guly will start of course regardless. You posting about someones lack of intelligence...oh the irony...pmsl.... Remember your "gem" of a post stating that Lambert is a lumbering oaf? Your intelligence is a credit to you....
dubai_phil Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 You posting about someones lack of intelligence...oh the irony...pmsl.... Remember your "gem" of a post stating that Lambert is a lumbering oaf? Your intelligence is a credit to you.... Although to be fair.... He didn't look at his best on Saturday, and on a couple of occassions looked ponderous chasing down loose balls. We put it down to him being "hampered" by his injury. And reading since that he had a pain killing injection before the game, think it is fair to say that at times Saturday he did look lumbering. (But still put in a decent stint)
sammysaint Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 Has to drop Guly start SDR and have JP on the bench, if he plays Guly let him play upfront since NA loves him hes bound to start, and to be honest hes due a goal so if he scorers a goal today and helps us win all will be forgiven.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 Although to be fair.... He didn't look at his best on Saturday, and on a couple of occassions looked ponderous chasing down loose balls. We put it down to him being "hampered" by his injury. And reading since that he had a pain killing injection before the game, think it is fair to say that at times Saturday he did look lumbering. (But still put in a decent stint) Maybe he did look a bit under his usual high standards but the free kick didn`t show it..
modern matron Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 Puncheon for me, he must be well rested and with a point to prove. Obviously who knows what's in his head, but he can be very dangerous and let's face it we've got to go for it today against a weakened Palace that are shipping goals at the moment. A draw won't be good enough at this stage of the campaign so let him prove himself. Guly looks a perfect sub today...
stu0x Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 A Makellelee/Mascherano type of player would have been on top of Norris at the end yesterday, and would cope better with players cutting inside the full backs. Agreed. If only the transfer window wasn't shut, I think we'd stand a pretty good chance of signing a Real/Barca player.
dubai_phil Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 Maybe he did look a bit under his usual high standards but the free kick didn`t show it.. Totally agree - hence the chasing down comment. BUT those on odd occassions it was enough that even FMDP watching a stream at work pinged a msg "what's wrong with Lambert today he looks so slow". (And although I am sure he was having trouble seeing clearly Eric commented on it in the pub as well - even WITH the juddervision we had in the first half!
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 April, 2012 Posted 9 April, 2012 (edited) You posting about someones lack of intelligence...oh the irony...pmsl.... Remember your "gem" of a post stating that Lambert is a lumbering oaf? Your intelligence is a credit to you.... Oh I didn't say you were unintelligent, although your misinterpretation of what I did said does tend to confirm it. As for my allegedly calling Ricky Lambert "a lumbering oaf" I have never said any such thing of course. So stupid and a liar then. Edited 9 April, 2012 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE
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