jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I think adkins will freshen it up a bit. Can even see lambert being rested or on bench. Maybe play chaplow and lallana behind sharp with lallana the playmaker and chaplow making runs. Then a midfield 3 of hammond cork and puncheon. I think martin will come in for fonte as well and dare I say it harding for fox. We have a few injuries at the moment but our squad still better than readings squad so adkins will be mindful that reading play tues and therefore have less recovery time plus will likely have less options to freshen the team for their game at brighton.
Nexstar Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 With Morgan now out it seems, I would like to see Chaplow in his actual position as as a CM. Based on his great play on the edge of the box yesterday I'd stick Lallana CAM, with Chaplow CDM, Puncheon and SDR on the wings. It's going to be a difficult surface having chucked it down all day so we need to get at them early.
.comsaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Like who? Our bench yesterday showed how shallow our squad is - we're unlikely to change the defense since our squad players are relatively weak; with Morgan's injury we've lost whatever cover we had in CM; and attacking wise, we only really have a mix of SDR, Punch, Chaplow and Barny -and three of those players are eyeing the same spot. Like Puncheon, Barnard, Chaplow, De Ridder, one or two of the youngsters/reserves all starting. I'd personally like to see young Sam Hoskins on the bench.
lethallee Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 With Morgan now out it seems, I would like to see Chaplow in his actual position as as a CM. Based on his great play on the edge of the box yesterday I'd stick Lallana CAM, with Chaplow CDM, Puncheon and SDR on the wings. It's going to be a difficult surface having chucked it down all day so we need to get at them early. Chaplow is not a defensive midfielder.
Nexstar Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Chaplow is not a defensive midfielder. I didn't think he was a right-midfielder either.
musesaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 We need 3 points from this. IMHO nothing less is good enough. And Birmingham doing the bussiness against Wham would make a perfect day tomorrow
Wade Garrett Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 We have generally been very average playing the diamond. We should stick with a 4-4-2. It wouldnt be a bad move to play Chaplow and Puncheon in at the expense of Guly and Hammond. I think, however, that De Ridder might play right and Guly up top if Lambert is rested.
InvictaSaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Interesting to note that in our first 5 or 6 games, when we started like an express train, we played Hammond and Cork in the middle; Morgan was not involved. My point being, much as he (Morgan) is a loss, we can clearly still do well without him
Stubby Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 We have generally been very average playing the diamond. We should stick with a 4-4-2. It wouldnt be a bad move to play Chaplow and Puncheon in at the expense of Guly and Hammond. I think, however, that De Ridder might play right and Guly up top if Lambert is rested. If we play De Ridder, it might help if his teammates pass the ball to him occasionally.
DrunkenSaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Next game coming up quickly, an Easter Monday trip to Palace. The Eagles have nothing to play for and appeared to put up absolutely no resistance to Brum today, going 3-0 very quickly and eventually losing 3-1. Their form overall has been poor too. 3 defeats in their last 4 and 1 win in their last 8. Saints last away game: 3-0 defeat (Blackpool) Palace last home game: 3-0 defeat (Forest) As for the teams, Morgan will definitely miss the game. I'd personally go with: Davis Frazer - Fonte - Jos - Fox Puncheon - Hammond - Cork - Lallana Lambert - Sharp Subs: Martin, Harding, De Ridder, Barnard, Flakey That team or... Davis Frazer Fonte Jos Fox Punch Chappers Cork Lallana Lambo Sharp/Barnard Subs: Martin, Harding, De Ridder, Sharp/Barnard, Hammond
shurlock Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 (edited) I would love to try: Davis Frazer Fonte Jos Fox Puncheon Hammond Cork Lallana SDR Lambert Giving SDR, Punch and Lallana licence to interchange. Palace's CBs are slow as f**k. However, expect it to be the same team that faced the skates after Morgan went off. If Lambert is out, Guly goes up top and maybe Puncheon/SDR right. Edited 8 April, 2012 by shurlock
Wade Garrett Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 If we play De Ridder, it might help if his teammates pass the ball to him occasionally. To be honest, I don't rate him. Chaplow and Puncheon are both a better bet on the right.
James Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Two goals yesterday and some wouldn't include sharp in their lineups?
ThreeSixty Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Can't see Lambert starting imo. Would go with Guly and Sharp up top.
Ian the Red Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Assume we are playing in Yellows?? Can anyone confirm?
Katalinic Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Assume we are playing in Yellows?? Can anyone confirm? Nope we are in red and white stripes
trousers Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Guly dropped after his no show yesterday. Hunch or ITK? Cheers
Leicestersaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Big big match - i will not be surprised if we win it either despite yesterday's poor football. We will miss Morgan but if the midfield can get their act together we may surprise many.
northam soul Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I would like to see Chaplow centre midfield as he has the energy and ability to get forward and cause problems in the final third which our current lot do not seem to do very often. It would add a different dimension if he is on his game which he is due.
Ian the Red Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Nope we are in red and white stripes Thanks Katalinic will put the yellow shiurt back in the draw!!
SuperMikey Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 ------------------DAVIS------------------ FRAZER-----FONTE-----HOOIVELD-----FOX PUNCH---HAMMOND-----CORK-----LALLANA ----------LAMBERT-----SHARP------------ Subs: Martin, Harding, Reeves, De Ridder, Barnard Cannot wait for this, if we can get 3 points tomorrow then I will feel very confident about us going up.
The Cat Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Like Puncheon, Barnard, Chaplow, De Ridder, one or two of the youngsters/reserves all starting. I'd personally like to see young Sam Hoskins on the bench. The same Sam Hoskins that's on loan at Rotherham for the season and scored their winner on Friday?
eling-saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 (edited) Think it's time for Puncheon to get a game, think he is better centre mid. Davis Frazer - Fonte - Jos - Fox Chaplow- Puncheon - Cork - Lallana Lambert - Sharp Subs: Martin, Harding, De Ridder, Barnard, Hammond Edited 8 April, 2012 by eling-saint
LGTL Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 This is a big, big game. Lose then and Friday night will be almost unbearable. When was the last time we beat Palace away? I can only ever remember draws. We never seem to get a result at Selhurst, think that'll change tomorrow though.
shurlock Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 This is a big, big game. Lose then and Friday night will be almost unbearable. When was the last time we beat Palace away? I can only ever remember draws. We never seem to get a result at Selhurst, think that'll change tomorrow though. Remember having a good night there in 2006 - 2-0 if i remember?
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Like Puncheon, Barnard, Chaplow, De Ridder, one or two of the youngsters/reserves all starting. I'd personally like to see young Sam Hoskins on the bench. and even possibly Falque
Joesaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Interesting to note that in our first 5 or 6 games, when we started like an express train, we played Hammond and Cork in the middle; Morgan was not involved. My point being, much as he (Morgan) is a loss, we can clearly still do well without him Very good point, it can and must work.
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 With Morgan now out it seems, I would like to see Chaplow in his actual position as as a CM. Based on his great play on the edge of the box yesterday I'd stick Lallana CAM, with Chaplow CDM, Puncheon and SDR on the wings. It's going to be a difficult surface having chucked it down all day so we need to get at them early. Thats a bloody woeful midfield, and Chappers lacks the positional nous to be an effective CM which is why he has never really made a name for himself there. My team Davis Frazer jos fonte fox Hammond Cork chappers Lallana Guly lambert
LGTL Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Thats a bloody woeful midfield, and Chappers lacks the positional nous to be an effective CM which is why he has never really made a name for himself there. My team Davis Frazer jos fonte fox Hammond Cork chappers Lallana Guly lambert You'd drop Sharp? He doesn't do much outside the box granted but he is clearly a goalscorer. Davis Frazer Jos Fonte Fox De Ridder Hammond Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 You'd drop Sharp? He doesn't do much outside the box granted but he is clearly a goalscorer. Davis Frazer Jos Fonte Fox De Ridder Hammond Cork Lallana Sharp Lambert Yes He isnt compatible with the way we play
Jones91 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 yet he scored 2 goals...seems pretty compatible to me
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Nicked two goals, we played poorly, start of season form was indicative of plenty of movement upfront and playing through the forwards, plus he moves into positions Lambert would usually find, so no he isnt
Jones91 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Nicked two goals, we played poorly, start of season form was indicative of plenty of movement upfront and playing through the forwards, plus he moves into positions Lambert would usually find, so no he isnt Alright well he's scored 4 goals in 3 games so if that isnt someone we want in our squad then i dont know who is.
sperm_john Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 think we need chappers out for this game, perfect game for him
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Alright well he's scored 4 goals in 3 games so if that isnt someone we want in our squad then i dont know who is. And we have struggled and not played our natural game in any of them. We need to play well against Reading. But Sharp scored so he gets MOM and SDR runs around alot so he should play yeah ? Thought so.
LGTL Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 And we have struggled and not played our natural game in any of them. We need to play well against Reading. But Sharp scored so he gets MOM and SDR runs around alot so he should play yeah ? Thought so. I'm not exactly a SDR fan but RM is a real problem.. Guly? I think Adkins will start him but he was woeful yesterday and I usually stick up for him. Chaplow? Been terrible since he came back from injury at each time he's played at RM since he has been removed at half time. Puncheon? Personally think he is a good option and would be tempted by him, provides no width but decent on the ball. Again not exactly set the world alight since he came back Falque? Only seen 45 minutes of him. We miss Chamberlain
richardc Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 sharp scores 4 goals in 3 matches and people want to drop him for Guly who hasnt scored in 15 odd matches - are some people mad
SW11_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Odd that most seem to be omitting Guly from the squad all together. Doubt that will happen. Other than Deano for Morgan I'd expect the same starting 11 (poss with Chaplow in for Guly on right, and Guly dropping to bench). Guly wasn't great v the Skates, but not as bad as some make out, and certainly no worse than De Ridder who did little other than waste a very good opportunity. That said he hardly got much service as we tended to play up through the middle after bringing him on for some odd reason. Looking forward to a win tomorrow. COYS!
corsacar saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Must win game,a few have to step up to the plate tomorrow and I do not include Billy Sharpe in that statement,4 goals in 3 games ,will do for me.
Lighthouse Posted 8 April, 2012 Author Posted 8 April, 2012 And we have struggled and not played our natural game in any of them. We need to play well against Reading. But Sharp scored so he gets MOM and SDR runs around alot so he should play yeah ? Thought so. Sharp should play because he can score in games when apparently nobody else could. Describing SDR as "running around a lot" does him a disservice IMO. He has pace and is very direct, but we don't really play to his strenghts. His problem is made a lot worse by the fact that a) he only seems to get 30 mins to prove himself. Half what Guly gets and a third of the time most other players get. b) He is often chucked into games where we aren't playing well and need someone to turn the game around. In the games where we play well and are already 2-0, he often gets left on the bench.
SFC Chris Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Odd that most seem to be omitting Guly from the squad all together. Doubt that will happen. Other than Deano for Morgan I'd expect the same starting 11 (poss with Chaplow in for Guly on right, and Guly dropping to bench). Guly wasn't great v the Skates, but not as bad as some make out, and certainly no worse than De Ridder who did little other than waste a very good opportunity. That said he hardly got much service as we tended to play up through the middle after bringing him on for some odd reason. Looking forward to a win tomorrow. COYS! *Cork for Morgan Guly was a passenger and put in a similar performance at Blackpool, I wouldn't expect him to start. Conversely, I would be astounded if Puncheon doesn't get the nod at wide right. Assuming Rickie is fit and ready to go I'd expect the following - ------------------Davis Richardson - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox Puncheon - Cork - Hammond - Lallana ---------Lambert - Sharp Bench: Bart, Martin, Chaplow, Guly, Barnard If Rickie doesn't make it I'd have Barnard in from the start, Sharp and Guly look totally incompatable. End of the day, I'll trust whatever NA goes with and just hope that we can pick up a vital 3 points.
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 sharp scores 4 goals in 3 matches and people want to drop him for Guly who hasnt scored in 15 odd matches - are some people mad You need a player who is conducive to the way we play, Guly works with Lambert and links up well, Sharp doesnt, yes he has scored four in three but we have played poor in all three games, his entire game is hanging on the edge of the last man and pick up scraps, thats not us is it ? This isnt sunday league, there is a bigger picture, and if you cant hold the ball upfront it invites the other team onto you, sharp has nothing else to his game, end of.
sperm_john Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 just bothered to actually read the thread, drop sharp? the hell?
SW11_Saint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 *Cork for Morgan Guly was a passenger and put in a similar performance at Blackpool, I wouldn't expect him to start. Conversely, I would be astounded if Puncheon doesn't get the nod at wide right. Assuming Rickie is fit and ready to go I'd expect the following - ------------------Davis Richardson - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox Puncheon - Cork - Hammond - Lallana ---------Lambert - Sharp Bench: Bart, Martin, Chaplow, Guly, Barnard If Rickie doesn't make it I'd have Barnard in from the start, Sharp and Guly look totally incompatable. End of the day, I'll trust whatever NA goes with and just hope that we can pick up a vital 3 points. Yes, sorry - Cork for Morgan. Would be happy with the team/squad you've proposed. Neither Chaplow or Puncheon have impressed me recently, but the time has arrived for them to come good.
bpsaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Normally I'm buzzing the evening before away games but I'm still hurting from yesterday. Ecstasy to agony in such a short space of time is a bitter pill to swallow, especially against those ****s. Reckon it'll go one of two ways after yesterday, either we'll be suffering the hangover of the late equaliser, or as I'm hoping, they'll be smarting and desperate to put things right. Going to miss MS for sure, and if Guly gets dropped or pushed up front I can't think who will be best choice for RM. nobody has really stepped up to the plate when called upon, if only Chappers could regain his early season form. Falque could always be our ace in the hole.
brett24 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 Think we will beat Palace, we are due to give a team a thumping and think tomorrow could be it. I would keep the team the same with Cork in for MS, just need to keep Zaha quiet he is their danger man. Guly to bag a brace and prove a lot of doubters wrong. COYS. Can see Palace giving us space to play which will suit us.
aintforever Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 You need a player who is conducive to the way we play, Guly works with Lambert and links up well, Sharp doesnt, yes he has scored four in three but we have played poor in all three games, his entire game is hanging on the edge of the last man and pick up scraps, thats not us is it ? This isnt sunday league, there is a bigger picture, and if you cant hold the ball upfront it invites the other team onto you, sharp has nothing else to his game, end of. I tend to agree, performances were better with Guly/Lambert up front. It's a tough one because Sharp has goals in him and hasn't been playing badly but changing our style to accommodate him at this stage might have a negative effect. Reminds me of when Newcastle brought in Asprilla and f*cked up their title bid. Great player, scored goals but the team didn't function the same.
L1Minus10 Posted 8 April, 2012 Posted 8 April, 2012 I'd go for Davis --------- Butterfield Jose Jos Fox --------- Chaplow Hammond Cork lallana -------- Rickie Billy Subs: Martin de Ridder Puncheon Barnard Guly If Lambert doesn't make it then start with Barnard
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