kwsaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 were **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Do you mean Sharp's second should have been disallowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 What did they do wrong? I know there were a lot of moans but I didn't see them do anything worse than the average ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Do you mean Sharp's second should have been disallowed? That seems to be a theory gaining some credibility so will look forward to watching it tonight. Ref was totally out of his depth but Lino on kingsland side was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 That seems to be a theory gaining some credibility so will look forward to watching it tonight. Ref was totally out of his depth but Lino on kingsland side was ok. I'd have to look again as well, I thought he was offside but then I thought the ball came from one of ours,if it was one of theirs that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypward Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 were **** I would have given them three stars, 4 is a bit generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypward Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Appleton said post match that it was a correct decision... Not offside as the flick on was off a skate. So the ref was right and the lino was a knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I would have given them three stars, 4 is a bit generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Appleton said post match that it was a correct decision... Not offside as the flick on was off a skate. So the ref was right and the lino was a knob. No - the lino didnt see it in the packed penalty area - the ref was very good, did see it and consulted his linesman. Between them they then arrived at the correct decission - as the OP says, the officials were ****!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypward Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Agree, but if the linesman didn't see it, why did he have his flag in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The lino on my left (sitting in the chapel) was shocking seemed to give everything (to both teams) the wrong way. I felt the ref let some pretty bad pompey tackles go well punishing saints players for the same type of tackle....but I was wearing my red and white striped shades. Lambert seemed to get held and pushed a lot to but the happens every game and he really gets a foul for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Ref let too many cynical skate tackles go. quite a few throw-ins wrong as well. Second half leaning on Sharp should have had a free kick, possibly a pen, got nothing. Two ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamRed Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The linesman on the Itchen side was very poor, and while the ref may have got the big decisions right, it seemed that every 50/50 went the Skates way. He blew up every time one of our players made a tackle, but let them get away with some fairly hefty challenges. I thought the ref had a poor game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourno Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The lino on my left (sitting in the chapel) was shocking seemed to give everything (to both teams) the wrong way. I felt the ref let some pretty bad pompey tackles go well punishing saints players for the same type of tackle....but I was wearing my red and white striped shades. Lambert seemed to get held and pushed a lot to but the happens every game and he really gets a foul for it. Agree, very poor decisions. If Billy gets a yellow for his celebration, their whole team should have got one for their 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Ref was poor! Let a lot of cynical tackles for them go, yet gives us a straight yellow for first tackle of game. Small example... Plenty of other incidents, can't be bothered to write them down. Didn't like him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 were ****Apart from the dodgy bookings for Spiderman and Sharp I thought they did ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Ref let too much skate fouling go in the first 5 minutes, almost like he'd been told to try and keep it clam (particularly the away fans), but once he'd let it go then he couldn't pull them up on it later. He'd set a level which was then acceptable They were very lucky to finished with 11 players on the pitch. The thing that disappoints me most is that they scored in the 94th minutes and that time was only being played because they wasted it in the second half. It penalised us that the time they wasted was added back on. It'd be good if they adapted that rule somehow to say if the time wasting team is losing it doesn't get added. I know, probably wouldn't work, but on this occasion the cheats definitely prospered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Never had control of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Ref let too much skate fouling go in the first 5 minutes, almost like he'd been told to try and keep it clam (particularly the away fans), but once he'd let it go then he couldn't pull them up on it later. He'd set a level which was then acceptable They were very lucky to finished with 11 players on the pitch. The thing that disappoints me most is that they scored in the 94th minutes and that time was only being played because they wasted it in the second half. It penalised us that the time they wasted was added back on. It'd be good if they adapted that rule somehow to say if the time wasting team is losing it doesn't get added. I know, probably wouldn't work, but on this occasion the cheats definitely prospered We added to the extra time by making a substitution in it,can't remember the exact chronology of events but if we hadn't subbed Sharp then time might have been up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Ref let too much skate fouling go in the first 5 minutes, almost like he'd been told to try and keep it clam (particularly the away fans), but once he'd let it go then he couldn't pull them up on it later. He'd set a level which was then acceptable They were very lucky to finished with 11 players on the pitch. The thing that disappoints me most is that they scored in the 94th minutes and that time was only being played because they wasted it in the second half. It penalised us that the time they wasted was added back on. It'd be good if they adapted that rule somehow to say if the time wasting team is losing it doesn't get added. I know, probably wouldn't work, but on this occasion the cheats definitely prospered Cheating to the death, on their corner, their player even found the time to redo their laces... No class.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 They add 30 seconds per substitution and we had 2 attacks after their goal so that probably didn't add the time they scored in. Now, taking off a forward and bringing on a second left back.... don't get me started, but I'll save that whinging for a different thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I thought that Maguire (no 22) had received two yellow cards before he scored, and so did those around me. But no-one has commented on this , so I guess we were all wrong. yes, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 On a slightly related topic, can someone quickly remind me what year the rules of Association Football were changed so that defenders are allowed to blatantly push the opposing forwards at every single attack? I must have missed that rule change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The thing that disappoints me most is that they scored in the 94th minutes and that time was only being played because they wasted it in the second half. It penalised us that the time they wasted was added back on. Couldn't possibly have been related to a pitch invasion, could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 They were awful. A card within two minutes in some people's minds is a good idea as it allows everyone to know there's going to be no mucking around. But then the referee allows Rocha to slap Lallana (red card) and lets their defence pull Lambert's shirt all afternoon, elbow him and push our players in the back all day and it's not even a word in the ear. There were some laughable offside decisions too. Referee was incapabale, incompetent and yet the fact he's been given that game is a big deal. It means the FA rate him. The greatest hypocrisy is that the FA punish refs for poor performances by demoting them for a match rather than tell them they're not officiating at all for a week. It just lets them carry on being ****e to someone else. Why should we get discarded Premier League refs? Why should League One get ours? It goes on and on. Today was bad though, even compared to the crap I've witnessed in recent months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 They were awful. A card within two minutes in some people's minds is a good idea as it allows everyone to know there's going to be no mucking around. But then the referee allows Rocha to slap Lallana (red card) and lets their defence pull Lambert's shirt all afternoon, elbow him and push our players in the back all day and it's not even a word in the ear. There were some laughable offside decisions too. Referee was incapabale, incompetent and yet the fact he's been given that game is a big deal. It means the FA rate him. The greatest hypocrisy is that the FA punish refs for poor performances by demoting them for a match rather than tell them they're not officiating at all for a week. It just lets them carry on being ****e to someone else. Why should we get discarded Premier League refs? Why should League One get ours? It goes on and on. Today was bad though, even compared to the crap I've witnessed in recent months. Much agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He took a while to get some control of the game but by then the pattern had been set and Morgan had been clogged out of the game. I saw Adkins giving him a mouthful after about 5 minutes. I suspect he was reminding him of his responsibilities to the players' safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He didn't have a great game there were a lot of niggling late challenges which we're just played on, and the bad tackle on Schneiderlin which wasn't even a free kick? Don't think they were as bad as some are making him out to be, but like a few others are saying, he let a lot go and try and let the game flow, but it just ended up being quite a dirty match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Did anyone else see how the ref and Varney did the very friendly high handshake before the game? (it wasn't a normal respectful handshake, but almost a high five) I hope somebody has footage of it)It was that of two very good friends meeting up, then within 2 minutes of the game starting Varney did Morgan with that tackle and the ref let it pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 1st half absymal, 2nd half better. Not sure how Rocha stayed on pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Officials were appalling, Dave Swarbrick would have got more decisions right, and he's a fiddle player. Missed so many decisions and got so many wrong (both ways), the only thing he did in our favour was to allow the goal, and it seems now that he even got that wrong, though I've yet to see it again (I know Appleton claimed it went off a Skate but video evidence shows otherwise according to Solent). I saw Ashdown make a great save from Cork (I think) tipping it over the bar and the **** gave a goal kick. Sharp, Lambert, Lallana all pulled back many times. Referee failed to get the game under control in first few minutes, dished out cards when he should have just calmed things down. Booking Sharp but not booking anyone for Skates despite them doing the same thing. Giving free kicks for nothing, it was a shameful performance from where I was sat (Itchen/Chapel corner). He should never be allowed to referee again, and I am usually a supporter of referees. How he only gave 3 minutes added in the 1st half as well, Morgan was down for about 5 alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 at times, they were actually guessing who to give a throw-in to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom8558 Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 at times, they were actually guessing who to give a throw-in to.... this in a strange way. and the final offside decision was obsurd. it came of the pompey player thus it doesn't matter where he is standing. was the lino incapable of watching the game or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrasri Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Shortly into the game I began to think that a game of this significance should have had a premier league standard match official. Got home and googled Mr Swarbrick, turns out he's on the Premier preferred list of referees. God help us next season if we go up, there will still be s**t officials in charge of our games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 To be honest , given the fevered atmosphere, I thought the officials had an OK game. Players from both sides were going over embarrassingly easily and the ref, quite rightly, was having none of it. They didn't get every decision right but then they never do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 at times, they were actually guessing who to give a throw-in to.... Pretty insulting to the linesmen and referee... ...But I actually can't rule it out! Some really stupid calls, Nigel got really ****ed off at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Right. MOTD, Sunderland v Tottenham. Tottenham player nudged in the back whilst running down the flank. Goes down. Free kick. Some might say it was a slight nudge at best. Now why didn't the linesman give our team free kicks for offences that were worse? Because they were crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Apart from the dodgy bookings for Spiderman and Sharp I thought they did ok.Spiderman deserved his. Agree with you that I thought he had a reasonable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Allan should have walked . The ref bottled it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Allan should have walked . The ref bottled it And Rocha. The rest of the world has seen it now, they can judge like we have. Terrible officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Right, I watched the stream and had the radio (Solent) on and as has always happened in derby games, so many fouls and aggressive actions by both teams, unless the officials have ten pairs of eyes it's not possible to get everything right. Ref was getting book out for one when another committed = we drew, end of, why place blame on the officials - would you rather Billy's second was called offside?? I despair of some fans, Jesus get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Right, I watched the stream and had the radio (Solent) on and as has always happened in derby games, so many fouls and aggressive actions by both teams, unless the officials have ten pairs of eyes it's not possible to get everything right. Ref was getting book out for one when another committed = we drew, end of, why place blame on the officials - would you rather Billy's second was called offside?? I despair of some fans, Jesus get a grip. Called offside? No, I'd rather the assistant got the decision correct in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Right, I watched the stream and had the radio (Solent) on and as has always happened in derby games, so many fouls and aggressive actions by both teams, unless the officials have ten pairs of eyes it's not possible to get everything right. Ref was getting book out for one when another committed = we drew, end of, why place blame on the officials - would you rather Billy's second was called offside?? I despair of some fans, Jesus get a grip. I had a perfect view from my seat of the ball bouncing off Portsmouth players and them getting the throw-ins. Explain how that's fair, or should I get a grip? I saw with my own eyes, a few feet from the players, shirts being pulled, nudges, elbows, the bloody lot. They are fouls, whether or not it's us vs 'them' or anyone else, they should be penalised, free kicks should be given. I respectfully disagree with your opinion - though I wasn't blaming the result on them, they were absolute crap and did the game little favours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I had a perfect view from my seat of the ball bouncing off Portsmouth players and them getting the throw-ins. Explain how that's fair, or should I get a grip? I saw with my own eyes, a few feet from the players, shirts being pulled, nudges, elbows, the bloody lot. They are fouls, whether or not it's us vs 'them' or anyone else, they should be penalised, free kicks should be given. I respectfully disagree with your opinion - though I wasn't blaming the result on them, they were absolute crap and did the game little favours. Respectfully - did your seat teleport to both ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Respectfully - did your seat teleport to both ends? It did not (respectfully). The few decisions that were not given that I witnessed, occurred in the first half just in front of the Kingsland, to the right of the halfway line. I can only go on what I saw. Again, respectfully, I know what I saw and it was genuinely a poor performance. Point still stands, a foul is a foul, and giving a yellow card so early on was a good idea were it to be followed up with consistent refereeing decisions. Sadly that was not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Did anyone else see how the ref and Varney did the very friendly high handshake before the game? (it wasn't a normal respectful handshake, but almost a high five) I hope somebody has footage of it)It was that of two very good friends meeting up, then within 2 minutes of the game starting Varney did Morgan with that tackle and the ref let it pass. Varney did not do Morgan with that tackle. Morgan's accurate slide tackle cleverly disposessed Varney. He was hurt in the process. It was a courageous challenge and he was unlucky. The incident was directly in front of me. Varney did not foul Morgan then. Incidentally had Guly been more positive in tackling Varney a second before, Morgan would have still been on the pitch and we would have won (imho). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 It did not (respectfully). The few decisions that were not given that I witnessed, occurred in the first half just in front of the Kingsland, to the right of the halfway line. I can only go on what I saw. Again, respectfully, I know what I saw and it was genuinely a poor performance. Point still stands, a foul is a foul, and giving a yellow card so early on was a good idea were it to be followed up with consistent refereeing decisions. Sadly that was not the case. Ok and again with respect, what were your immediate thoughts (red and white glasses off) when the goal was called offside? Seriously, did you have a clear view of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 8 April, 2012 Share Posted 8 April, 2012 Ok and again with respect, what were your immediate thoughts (red and white glasses off) when the goal was called offside? Seriously, did you have a clear view of that? Nope, didn't get a great view of that, too many people in the way. Did see the flag go up just as I got to my feet to celebrate, was reminded of Taylor's handball in 2005. Didn't think the Swarbrick would give it, but it looked as if he just went 'nah I'm giving it' and totally overruled him. I also didn't see Rocha slap Lallana or kick the ball into the crowd, it was only until full time when my friend texted me to tell me that I found out, so hey ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 April, 2012 Share Posted 8 April, 2012 Ok and again with respect, what were your immediate thoughts (red and white glasses off) when the goal was called offside? Seriously, did you have a clear view of that? I saw the flag go up straight away so I wasn't celebrating. Then I realised that he was signalling for offside which it couldn't possibly have been since only two of our players touched the ball, one to take the corner and one to put it into the net and as we all know, you cannot be offside from a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludgershallsaint Posted 8 April, 2012 Share Posted 8 April, 2012 Seen the highlights this morning. There are a few Pompey players who can count themselves fortunate to have been on the pitch at the end of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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