Matthew Le Tissier Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 You muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He didn't do a great deal, but he never really gets given the ball. He's totally low on confidence though, you can tell - he was a right bubbly character at the start of the year, but he looks pretty rubbish these days. Why is he a muppet though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 7 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Someone needs to show him where the goal is. Clean through one on one with minutes to go and decides not to shoot. muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 All fart and no sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Someone needs to show him where the goal is. Clean through one on one with minutes to go and decides not to shoot. muppet Clearly very low on confidence, which is why he did that. I really don't rate him though personally, he never does seems to do much. (although we didn't get the ball to him enough today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 No end product - at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Someone needs to show him where the goal is. Clean through one on one with minutes to go and decides not to shoot. muppet And? We scored from the resulting corner. I take it your aiming similar criticism at Lallana for not burying an easier chance than SDR, where he decided not to shoot then dive? You are a bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 7 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Lallana lost his footing. And your a cvnt if you think that classy move from de ridder got us the goal. At least you have cheered me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I dont really rate him TBH, a lot of promise but nothing actually given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Don't know why you"'re all so amazed by this, told you from Day 1 that from what I'd seen of him in Belgium and then on Dutch TV he just isn't very good.The manager only uses him when he's got no other option so what Puncheon and Chaplow have wrong with them can only be supposed. Can't understand why we will not use Falqué as an impact player at least he has some modicum of skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Underwhelmed by him bar one or two occasions. Nice goal at Reading and all that but on the whole? Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DG Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Why are we so afraid of shooting. At least Fox had a go (first one was a shocker, second almost went in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Lallana lost his footing. lololol Funniest thing i've seen all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colbury Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Lallana lost his footing. And your a cvnt if you think that classy move from de ridder got us the goal. At least you have cheered me up Did it not go out for a corner which we scored from then? Now bore off you little runt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Tbf it was lucky we got a corner out of it, it was terrible from SDR rabbit in headlights stuff, guly would have tested keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. Countless times he had acres of space to work in and he is probably the quickest saints player on the pitch yet saints players would rather pass it to someone in the centre of the pitch surrounded be blue shirts. It's the same every time SDR plays it's like the rest of the team have something against him. He could be a useful option if the rest of the team would use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 7 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. Countless times he had acres of space to work in and he is probably the quickest saints player on the pitch yet saints players would rather pass it to someone in the centre of the pitch surrounded be blue shirts. It's the same every time SDR plays it's like the rest of the team have something against him. He could be a useful option if the rest of the team would use him. Absolutely. He needs the early pass in order to be effective, not a pass with his back to goal and a guy up his arse. Our inability to use guys who need the ball early - and Lee is another example - is a real weakness. It makes me (sadly) think we're better off not playing them because they don't suit our style/skill set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 (edited) Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. Countless times he had acres of space to work in and he is probably the quickest saints player on the pitch yet saints players would rather pass it to someone in the centre of the pitch surrounded be blue shirts. It's the same every time SDR plays it's like the rest of the team have something against him. He could be a useful option if the rest of the team would use him. Agree but that's a result of our narrow diamond and going direct to Lambert down the middle which sucks players inside to pick up the layoffs and knock downs. Not really going to change as long as we rely on Lambert in the way we do. That's why I'd rather see SDR down the middle closer to Lambert where he will be involved more. Edited 7 April, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simondo Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. This is so true, he played right in front of me second half and he was never given a pass he could do anything with... Actually this being the case, it might explain a bit of guly's performances Not a guly fan, but the fact that wing is not well served could explain why he is less effective than up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Absolutely. He needs the early pass in order to be effective, not a pass with his back to goal and a guy up his arse. Our inability to use guys who need the ball early - and Lee is another example - is a real weakness. It makes me (sadly) think we're better off not playing them because they don't suit our style/skill set. Agree we might as well have played with when 10 men when SDR came on. He is no use to us the way we play at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Someone needs to teach him when to come short for the ball and when to drive forward for the ball over the top because he makes it very hard for the player in possession. He should be coming short taking a pass from Fraser then bombing forward for the quick ball over the top but he never does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Absolutely. He needs the early pass in order to be effective, not a pass with his back to goal and a guy up his arse. Our inability to use guys who need the ball early - and Lee is another example - is a real weakness. It makes me (sadly) think we're better off not playing them because they don't suit our style/skill set. Don't think it would make a massive difference as long as all the play is attracted to the centre of the pitch where Lambert is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Lallana lost his footing. You need to go to that Specsavers place - either that, or you have a great up and coming career as a comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Don't think it would make a massive difference as long as all the play is attracted to the centre of the pitch where Lambert is. Doesn't that give us more opportunity to give De Ridder the ball he needs? I think it does but that assumes we have a midfielder who can see and react to that opportunity, and I'm not sure we do. Other than Schneiderlin - if he can get forward quickly enough from his current base of the diamond/front of the back four role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. Countless times he had acres of space to work in and he is probably the quickest saints player on the pitch yet saints players would rather pass it to someone in the centre of the pitch surrounded be blue shirts. It's the same every time SDR plays it's like the rest of the team have something against him. He could be a useful option if the rest of the team would use him. This. Sometimes, we're just far too slow in our build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 This. Sometimes, we're just far too slow in our build up. Absolutely. I thought P*mpey were much quicker getting the ball to their danger men, and their lead midfielders were quicker to support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Doesn't that give us more opportunity to give De Ridder the ball he needs? I think it does but that assumes we have a midfielder who can see and react to that opportunity, and I'm not sure we do. Other than Schneiderlin - if he can get forward quickly enough from his current base of the diamond/front of the back four role. He does but that's after the second phase -after we've collected the knock down from Lambert by which time defenders have had time to regroup. If that gives anyone space it's the FBs from deep. Very different from hitting first time balls from deepish midfield into the channels. That wont happen as long as our first instinct is to hit Lambert -which, after all, is effective alot of the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Don't think he really fits our system, which is a shame, as i like the lad. Would probably be more adept to playing wide right of a front 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Don't think he really fits our system, which is a shame, as i like the lad. Would probably be more adept to playing wide right of a front 3. Yep totally agree. Needs to be closer to Lambert and use his pace/directness off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He needs a quality penetrating pass from midfield either down the right channel or behind the defence. Nobody in midfield can play that pass. We need a midfielder that can play in the forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Sorry but putting De-Ridder on the pitch is pretty pointless if the team won't pass to him. There are times when you get the impression that Richardson does not like him, as said elsewhere, the ball goes to him when he is facing our goal with a defender up his chuff. Today SDR asked for the ball over the top and Richardson ignored him and passed it sideways for our cocking about in the centre back goalie triangle play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He needs a quality penetrating pass from midfield either down the right channel or behind the defence. Nobody in midfield can play that pass. We need a midfielder that can play in the forwards. To hits those balls requires a ridiculously good midfielder-i cant think of many players in the championship let alone England that can regularly split defenses in that way. Instead what you get are balls down the channels which are either too hopeful or too flat. As I say, the way we set up around the ball to Lambert down the middle makes us narrow unless he's peeling off to the sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 He needs a quality penetrating pass from midfield either down the right channel or behind the defence. Nobody in midfield can play that pass. We need a midfielder that can play in the forwards. In my view that player was on the pitch today, unfortunately with a blue shirt on. Scott Allan looks a very good prospect, maybe we can prise him away from the Baggies at the end of the season, in my opinion he is just what we need, and fits the bill well as a young player, even if not the intelligent bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Someone needs to show him where the goal is. Clean through one on one with minutes to go and decides not to shoot. muppet Clearly very low on confidence, which is why he did that. I really don't rate him though personally, he never does seems to do much. (although we didn't get the ball to him enough today) The way I saw that chance was he got himself into a great position, got closed down very quickly indeed, and decided a squared ball across the box was the better option in the not unreasonable expectation that we ought to have at least one striker steaming in. Think its a bit harsh to criticise too severely myself. With that wonderful thing that is hindsight, he should have shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 Agree we might as well have played with when 10 men when SDR came on. He is no use to us the way we play at the moment. So no change then as we were a team of 10 whilst Guly was out there. SDR does at least offer a change of pace, and sometimes a cross from the right when he is played in.. Sadly and five games from the end of the season we know he can not start a game. So he remains an "impact sub" , but too often of little consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The way I saw that chance was he got himself into a great position, got closed down very quickly indeed, and decided a squared ball across the box was the better option in the not unreasonable expectation that we ought to have at least one striker steaming in. Think its a bit harsh to criticise too severely myself. With that wonderful thing that is hindsight, he should have shot. Couldn't agree more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 MLT your fast becoming the new alpine . Your the muppet . Get behind the team FFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 The way I saw that chance was he got himself into a great position, got closed down very quickly indeed, and decided a squared ball across the box was the better option in the not unreasonable expectation that we ought to have at least one striker steaming in. Think its a bit harsh to criticise too severely myself. With that wonderful thing that is hindsight, he should have shot. I agree to some extent but he should have looked across and tried to pick someone out instead of just blindly squaring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 How much of this have we seen this season? Precious little. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 to be fair....he rarely gets a run in the team pretty difficult to get going with 30 mins here, 25 mins there etc look at sharp...took a few starts to get going... now got 4 in the last 3 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 to be fair....he rarely gets a run in the team pretty difficult to get going with 30 mins here, 25 mins there etc look at sharp...took a few starts to get going... now got 4 in the last 3 games It had occurred to me, but you would have thought we'd see more than we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 It had occurred to me, but you would have thought we'd see more than we have. when was the last time he started 3 in a row...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 when was the last time he started 3 in a row...? I'm afraid I don't know. Is that a loaded question? I still expect more from him when he does make appearances, that's my point. Nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I'm afraid I don't know. Is that a loaded question? I still expect more from him when he does make appearances, that's my point. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't either but some players need to have a run in the team.....remember when joe hooiveld first signed..bit dodge to start with...sharp certainly was GULY was horrofic to start with (another debate lol) where as Lee looked the business I would like to see De Ridder start a couple of games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 April, 2012 Share Posted 7 April, 2012 I don't either but some players need to have a run in the team.....remember when joe hooiveld first signed..bit dodge to start with...sharp certainly was GULY was horrofic to start with (another debate lol) where as Lee looked the business I would like to see De Ridder start a couple of games Or Josh as Nigel calls him! I said on another thread we miss Lee, don't think anyone can deny it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 8 April, 2012 Share Posted 8 April, 2012 Or Josh as Nigel calls him! I said on another thread we miss Lee, don't think anyone can deny it. Although I am inclined to agree with you...we did alright before we had Lee and Sharp, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 8 April, 2012 Share Posted 8 April, 2012 Although I am inclined to agree with you...we did alright before we had Lee and Sharp, We certainly did, but we looked even better with Lee, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 8 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 8 April, 2012 To be fair. After watching it on tv and seeing it from another (better) angle I think I may have been a little harsh on him. i was maybe a tad harsh. My apoligies to Steve and his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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