Saint_clark Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Can't believe this thread was dragged back up again - he did nothing wrong today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 13 April, 2012 Share Posted 13 April, 2012 Can't believe this thread was dragged back up again - he did nothing wrong today. I'm calling it as I see it. This thread is here, Guly played, I comment. If that's a problem then too bad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Can't believe this thread was dragged back up again - he did nothing wrong today. Well stop deleting posts, you obviously agree with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Yawn, please find another scape goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Well stop deleting posts, you obviously agree with me! *sigh* I agree that Guly did nothing wrong, I don't agree with the remarks you made to other users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Yawn, please find another scape goat I don't believe anyone has said he is a scapegoat for tonight, they've just simply remarked on his performance tonight. I would also take issue with the idea that he is a scapegoat in the first place. No one blames him for a bad result, they simply point out what they see. There's a very big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 How can a sub of 20 minutes be the scape goat - get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 How can a sub of 20 minutes be the scape goat - get a grip ...Yes, I agree. He was not a scapegoat. As I just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tttdcs Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 *sigh* I agree that Guly did nothing wrong, I don't agree with the remarks you made to other users. *sigh* you do really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Thought he was dreadful when he came on tonight. Far too conservative and slowed the game down when we needed to up the tempo and put pressure on the Reading defence. what a sad person you are ,scapegoating again,did not chaplow waste some good balls in the gamei,m a saints fan and support all the team,we lost because reading took their few chanceswhile we missed ours nothing to do with guly on for about 15 mins,are you sure your not a pompey fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Why do we all look at Gully as the scape goat - Chappers was poor despite his will, we lost yet we dominated, thecdefense leakev3 goals yet Gully was the cullprit -a team is about dimension! As was Hammond As was Fonte Cork was no great shakes either Jos looked uncertain, but it could be he is suffering because Fonte is crap at the moment. DeRidder is still all fart and no sh*t. Chaplow was chaotic. Butterfields crosses were pants. If Guly changed the tempo of the game in exactly the opposite way to what we needed, its NAs fault for sending him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 This is no dig at Guly, for me... Adkins got it wrong sending him on. Last night was all about huffing & puffing. For me Chaplow done his job brilliantly, as did Cork and Deano. When De Ridder come on he gave a bit more running but no end product again, but when Guly come on we just seemed to stop. He literally slowed us to walking pace. From that minute we were done, there was no coming back. He done his job fine, it's not a dig at him because that's the player he is. Adkins called it and for me it was wrong. I worship NA so won't hold it against him but that my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 I actually thought Guly looked a lot bettter playing in the centre tonight. Would rather see him play there instead of Hammond who offers no creativity at all. Would also like to see if Chappers might offer more in the centre Thought we missed Richardson, didn't see Butterfield go on the overlap once. Fox also didn't overlap and was at fault for the first goal, not for the first time he leaves far to much space between him and the attacker to get the cross for their goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 what a sad person you are ,scapegoating again,did not chaplow waste some good balls in the gamei,m a saints fan and support all the team,we lost because reading took their few chanceswhile we missed ours nothing to do with guly on for about 15 mins,are you sure your not a pompey fan Scapegoating? Where in either of my posts did I blame him for the defeat? That's right, I didn't. If you read my post in the reaction thread you'll see I was equally critical of certain other players as well. This thread is an ongoing debate about Guly, as he really does divide opinion. My opinion of him was that he was very poor last night and that our attacking play became very pedestrian and predictable when he came on we needed to create an equaliser. I simply posted that opinion on here, which is surely thw whole point. If you disgaree then why not offer constructive reasons instead of labelling me as sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Thought he was dreadful when he came on tonight. Far too conservative and slowed the game down when we needed to up the tempo and put pressure on the Reading defence. Sorry Bexy you are not serious are you? The bloke came on and did the job he was asked to do. We lost because our top players - AL and SRL failed to take chances in the first half whilsT Roberts and Le Fondre were lethal - that's it not poor old Guly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Sorry Bexy you are not serious are you? The bloke came on and did the job he was asked to do. We lost because our top players - AL and SRL failed to take chances in the first half whilsT Roberts and Le Fondre were lethal - that's it not poor old Guly!!! Oh for feck's sake, please read my response to solentstars above. I am not blaming him for losing to Reading. I am simply contributing my opinion about one player on a thread that is all about that one player. Lastnight Guly came on when we were searching for an equaliser. Many of the posts defending him on this thread claim that he has that special ability to create something or make something happen and that is why he should be in the team, but on lastnight's evidence (and, indeed, all of the games I have seen recently) I didn't see the slightest hint of that. In that one incident that I have already mentioned, when he had the opportunity to run at the Reading defence or make something happen he completely bottled it and left it to Cork instead, which is the exact opposite of what you expect from a player who is supposed to have that bit of magic that can change a game. Perhaps he is low on confidence - I don't know. Why do so many people assume that just because I and others are critical of his individual performances that we are all scapegoating and making out like it's all his fault whenever we have a bad result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Bexy, you are lucky you have not been called a racist yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Can't really believe the criticism of individual players and I'm guessing its simply more frustrastion that we did not take our chances. We have a team that actually does what they are told now. Chappers played OK but was clearly told to give it to Butters to get deep crosses in. SDR came and added to that by crossing from the bye line. Guly was told to play to deep for my liking but in fairness never put a foot wrong. Fans may not like this slow build up from the back which usually involves Kelvin rolling out from the back and defenders square passing whilst we find a way forward - but it works. We have not been out of the top two all season. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge the better team won because they took the three chances offered to them. Credit to the Saints for limiting them to 3 shots on goal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Can't really believe the criticism of individual players and I'm guessing its simply more frustrastion that we did not take our chances. No-one is rating Guly on that one game tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 No-one is rating Guly on that one game tbf. Lallana did nothing in second half and has been poor for loads of this season. No one hardly says anything about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Lallana did nothing in second half and has been poor for loads of this season. No one hardly says anything about that. because this is specifically about Guly, there is a fred about AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 This is no dig at Guly, for me... Adkins got it wrong sending him on. Last night was all about huffing & puffing. For me Chaplow done his job brilliantly, as did Cork and Deano. When De Ridder come on he gave a bit more running but no end product again, but when Guly come on we just seemed to stop. He literally slowed us to walking pace. From that minute we were done, there was no coming back. He done his job fine, it's not a dig at him because that's the player he is. Adkins called it and for me it was wrong. I worship NA so won't hold it against him but that my honest opinion. have to agree with the above. Why was Guly bougt on to do a 'holding' role in midfield, in fact sometimes he nearly dropped back to CB. I'm not a big fan, but if he is going to come on then at least try and make him effective. I cannot see any logic in taking off Hammond and putting Guly directly in his place. But maybe he did do what NA wanted him to do? If so, that should be the last we see of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Lallana did nothing in second half and has been poor for loads of this season. No one hardly says anything about that.The reason no-one says it is because it is rubbish. Lallana had another good game last night, just like last week. God knows what you expect, Messi or somthing. I have read some negative posts bu you make Alpine look like a happy-clappy. Some people have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 I actually thought Guly looked a lot bettter playing in the centre tonight. Would rather see him play there instead of Hammond who offers no creativity at all. Would also like to see if Chappers might offer more in the centre Thought we missed Richardson, didn't see Butterfield go on the overlap once. Fox also didn't overlap and was at fault for the first goal, not for the first time he leaves far to much space between him and the attacker to get the cross for their goal. You cant be serious? Hammond is not there to offer creativity FFS, thats what Cork is supposed to do! You are right about the FB's though, last night we played a predictable flat 4-4-2, against a side clearly winning against teams that do this. I thought that playing the same team that won at Palace was the right thing to do, on reflection though (yeah, after we had lost tbf), we should have done something different. We have some cracking FB's at the club that can go forward, the midfiled is our problem, especially without Morgan, I would love to see Lallana play off Lambert, Fox in midfiled with Harding behind him, Chaplow and Hammond in the middle with Cork on the right, with the FB's getting past the midfiled at every opportunity. Adkins got his tactics wrong tonight, just as the players got it wrong against Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 I actually thought Guly looked a lot bettter playing in the centre tonight. Would rather see him play there instead of Hammond who offers no creativity at all. Hahahahahahahaha best one so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 Let's be honest, Guly has been shocking in his approach to a number of games this season but what also goes without saying is that he does get a little bit more of a raw deal than anyone else! For the record, I don't think he's playing well at all at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 As was Hammond As was Fonte Cork was no great shakes either Jos looked uncertain, but it could be he is suffering because Fonte is crap at the moment. DeRidder is still all fart and no sh*t. Chaplow was chaotic. Butterfields crosses were pants. If Guly changed the tempo of the game in exactly the opposite way to what we needed, its NAs fault for sending him on. What a load of rubbish. You really are a miserable bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 As was Hammond As was Fonte Cork was no great shakes either Jos looked uncertain, but it could be he is suffering because Fonte is crap at the moment. DeRidder is still all fart and no sh*t. Chaplow was chaotic. Butterfields crosses were pants. If Guly changed the tempo of the game in exactly the opposite way to what we needed, its NAs fault for sending him on. You're on form this morning Alps, managed to criticise 7 players in one post after what most of us saw as a good team performance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 have to agree with the above. Why was Guly bougt on to do a 'holding' role in midfield, in fact sometimes he nearly dropped back to CB. I'm not a big fan, but if he is going to come on then at least try and make him effective. I cannot see any logic in taking off Hammond and putting Guly directly in his place. But maybe he did do what NA wanted him to do? If so, that should be the last we see of him. The last of Guly for doing as he was instructed, or the last of NA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 As was Hammond As was Fonte Cork was no great shakes either Jos looked uncertain, but it could be he is suffering because Fonte is crap at the moment. DeRidder is still all fart and no sh*t. Chaplow was chaotic. Butterfields crosses were pants. If Guly changed the tempo of the game in exactly the opposite way to what we needed, its NAs fault for sending him on. Even a broken clock is right twice a day!!! How many times do we have to flush to get rid of you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 What a load of rubbish. You really are a miserable bastard. We found out last season that he doesn't watch OR listen to games. All of his opinions are based on what is posted on the match thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 We found out last season that he doesn't watch OR listen to games. All of his opinions are based on what is posted on the match thread. You can learn a lot about a teams and individual performance just from watching the BBC live texts apparently. Love how Alpine becomes a footballing guru in the wake of a defeat yet is hardly seen or heard post victory. Strange strange man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 For whats it's worth I don't happen to think that Guly do Prado can reasonably be blamed for yesterdays bitter disappointment, indeed his introduction didn't seem to make very much difference one way or the other. Mind you, all our players are paid to make a difference aren't they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 14 April, 2012 Share Posted 14 April, 2012 The last of Guly for doing as he was instructed, or the last of NA? yeah, sorry, that should have read, maybe he did not do what NA wanted of him, therefore the last of Guly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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