Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 What is everyones thoughts on this one then? According to Gabby Logan sexism in football is shocking and Lawrie Sanchez think there will be a female manager within the next ten years. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17598719 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17604014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 there will not be a female manager in the next 10 years...no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 there will not be a female manager in the next 10 years...no way Why not Jamie? It's that sort of attitude Gabby (football presenter and daughter of ex international player and manager) Logan is refering to in her article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I'd love to smash Gabby Logan's back door in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39qdhbkTko4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 there is no reason why women can't take other roles within the game, i went to swindon v oxford back in August, a Swindon player went down in injured and i was quite shocked when their physio came running on , her jugs bouncing around in a tight polo shirt to huge cheers from the crowd!! they even had a song about their physio having big tlts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 (edited) The TV Docudramas Footballers Wives and Dream Team proved there is a role for women in football. The physio on Football Wives was a women who despite being very attractive only sh*gged one player and there was also a woman agent who was a lesbian, proof that football is not only not sexist it isn't homophobic either. IN Dream Team Linda Block was a very successful chairwomen before being shafted by (in more ways than one) Prashant Duttanti (see football isn't racist either). All credit to her for licking her wounds and opening up a textiles business on Coronation Street proving skills learnt in football are transferable to other indutries as well. Edited 4 April, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Anyone else remember the Manageress a few years ago? Cherie Lunghi in her prime. Teenage ****s aplenty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Chelsea have got the right idea with their physio. A right sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Football has been almost synonymous with men since it started, and when I was growing up, the only girls who would join in with a game were the out-and-out tomboys. I think that's changing now, though. Not only are we getting more female teams, but girls are also being encouraged to play for school teams, etc. I know Turkish is having a bit of a laugh with the Dream Team references, but I think about 24 and its depiction of Dennis Haysbert as a black President. Haysbert claims that his role paved the way for general public acceptance of a black President - a view I share some sympathy with. Ultimately, the more women we see in football, the less weird it will become. The game tends to drag its heels on equality. There are still no gay footballers, apparently - and it was only 30 years ago that bananas were being hurled onto the terraces at black players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 My SiL (a primary school teacher) was ecstatic last week as his girls' football team had finally won a match. He's been coaching them for a year almost and says he's amazed at how talented some of them are. I regularly (try to) play football with my younger grandchildren. My granddaughter (nearly 4) is great at dribbling (yeah, yeah, I know ) and I showed her last week how to kick with the inside and outside of her foot as well as with her toes. She also does great 'goalie' kicks as she calls them. But she has great co-ordination as is already quite good at tennis and hitting golf balls. My grand-son (just 3) isn't so good but he's left footed, although right handed, so we'll have to encourage him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I wonder if Gabby will be following up this documentary with one about nepotism in sport and sports broadcasting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 My granddaughter (nearly 4) is great at dribbling (yeah, yeah, I know ) Takes after Granny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 (edited) Saints used to have a female physio or trainee physio once met her on tour in Sweden I think it was, she definitely came on the pitch to treat one of the players. Our Club Secretary is also a female and has been at the club for over 25 years. Edited 4 April, 2012 by ladysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 there is no reason why women can't take other roles within the game, i went to swindon v oxford back in August, a Swindon player went down in injured and i was quite shocked when their physio came running on , her jugs bouncing around in a tight polo shirt to huge cheers from the crowd!! they even had a song about their physio having big tlts like cheerleading? How about getting them to walk around with the extra minutes board, like they do in boxing with the round number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I wonder if Gabby will be following up this documentary with one about nepotism in sport and sports broadcasting? .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 My SiL (a primary school teacher) was ecstatic last week as his girls' football team had finally won a match. He's been coaching them for a year almost and says he's amazed at how talented some of them are. I regularly (try to) play football with my younger grandchildren. My granddaughter (nearly 4) is great at dribbling (yeah, yeah, I know ) and I showed her last week how to kick with the inside and outside of her foot as well as with her toes. She also does great 'goalie' kicks as she calls them. But she has great co-ordination as is already quite good at tennis and hitting golf balls. My grand-son (just 3) isn't so good but he's left footed, although right handed, so we'll have to encourage him. He's been coaching them for a year and they've finally won a match and he's amazed at how talented they are??!! The future of female football in this country is clearly in safe hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Saints used to have a female physio or trainee physio once met her on tour in Sweden I think it was, she definitely came on the pitch to treat one of the players. Our Club Secretary is also a female and has been at the club for over 25 years. To be fair women do make the best secretaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 He's been coaching them for a year and they've finally won a match and he's amazed at how talented they are??!! The future of female football in this country is clearly in safe hands. There wasn't a girls' football team at the school before he worked there. He started the team from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 To be fair women do make the best secretaries. The best secretary ever to work for me was male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I've got no problem with women working behind the scenes at football clubs. Chairwomen, secretarys, chief execs, physios etc is fine and many women are more qualified than men in these areas. I can't see a woman becoming a manager though. At least not until women's football goes pro in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I've got no problem with women working behind the scenes at football clubs. Chairwomen, secretarys, chief execs, physios etc is fine and many women are more qualified than men in these areas. I can't see a woman becoming a manager though. At least not until women's football goes pro in the UK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_WSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I think gabby might be getting worried because as a woman she's approaching that age where she'll soon be too old for television work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Chelsea have got the right idea with their physio. A right sort. Insert groin strain/ magic spray joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 There wasn't a girls' football team at the school before he worked there. He started the team from scratch. One win in a year with an amazingly talented team? Maybe it's the coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 The best secretary ever to work for me was male. Was he gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Was he gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2012 It seems we're struggling to find support for this one, which surprises me on here given how fair minded and equal rights we are on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Insert groin strain/ magic spray joke. Based on those pictures, I'ld rather go route one and insert something else to be fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Ah hard man lawrie Sanchez . There's no way a women will manage a premier league or championship . If a woman was doing the pre match talk or the post match cup throwin.the lads would not want them around when they are changing or soaking in the plunge bath . Besides the club would have to build additional changing rooms . Sexist I know but I just cannot see it happening . How many officials are women since Wendy whatshername became lino. Next to none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Chelsea have got the right idea with their physio. A right sort. So that's who the fit one on the Chelsea bench is. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us ..... it's science. A infamous quote From the funnest film ever made of course - not necessarily my view you understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 The head of FIFA's view http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3402519.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 You finally stumped up this year's fiver then turks. Money well spent mate, this thread is golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 None of the content is in the slightest bit surprising for anyone who knows anything about football - and that's the saddest, and stupidest thing. It's 2012, FFS. Football has consistently shown itself to be reluctant to change on any front, and always has to be dragged kicking and screaming towards anything vaguely like the attitudes of the rest of society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Personally I don't like female voices in commentary, I don't think there is a chance of a female manager in a big team or a referee. If a female wants to do another job within football then I see no problem provided they are the best candidate for the job. It does make me uneasy though with shows like this because it tends to encourage favouritism towards women rather than choosing the best candidate regardless of sex. I still don't want women commentators though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 You have to admire Sian Massey who despite the Keys-Gray fiasco has stuck with it. Just a shame there is only one of her, as having watched her running the line at SMS she has to have been the (in the correct term) fittest Lino we have had down there and correct in her decisions. She kept up with the line of play at the pace of the players, unlike many of the pie eaters we have seen week in week out, some of whom I swear flag a player offside on the assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 You have to admire Sian Massey who despite the Keys-Gray fiasco has stuck with it. Just a shame there is only one of her, as having watched her running the line at SMS she has to have been the (in the correct term) fittest Lino we have had down there and correct in her decisions. She kept up with the line of play at the pace of the players, unlike many of the pie eaters we have seen week in week out, some of whom I swear flag a player offside on the assumption. Well she was hardly going to stop just because of some comments. I've seen her have some good games but I also watched her in an away game (maybe Walsall) and she was terrible. She did get horrendous abuse from us that day so fair play for putting up with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 None of the content is in the slightest bit surprising for anyone who knows anything about football - and that's the saddest, and stupidest thing. It's 2012, FFS. Football has consistently shown itself to be reluctant to change on any front, and always has to be dragged kicking and screaming towards anything vaguely like the attitudes of the rest of society. So you seriously think if a female manager managed a side none of the players would want to/ try to/ imagine smashing her? If I was a chairman I'd know that's how young, 18-30 lads think. Like it or not footballs about testosterone, chest thumping, aggression, competitiveness etc -.I want those attributes at saints, I see those attributes at saints, I wouldn't want some PC owner sack our manager and bring in a Doris to change that way of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 So you seriously think if a female manager managed a side none of the players would want to/ try to/ imagine smashing her? If I was a chairman I'd know that's how young, 18-30 lads think. Like it or not footballs about testosterone, chest thumping, aggression, competitiveness etc -.I want those attributes at saints, I see those attributes at saints, I wouldn't want some PC owner sack our manager and bring in a Doris to change that way of football. Truelly enlightened then? No one is ever advocating bringing in 'a Doris' to change football - just that if 'a Doris' is the best qualified and most knowledgeable then she should be given the opportunity and not held back because of some archaic preconceptions and prejudices. Football is still full of racism, homophobia, sexism - not because of some testosterone fuelled ******** --- but simply because those that run it, work in it and support it have those attitudes - its says more about the ignorant attitudes of the average fan than anything else. No one wants positive discrimination, that ******** just sets things back further, and respect for ability and knowledge has to be earned - respect for women is something that should be a given and if most of the 18-30 lads are thinking about 'smashing her' - then they need to grow the feck up - all blokes think about sex, nothing feckin new or wronng there, but 'smashing' FFS... Yes the Chelsea physio is 'fit' - nowt wrong with acknowledgiung that - and there is nothing wrong with having a laugh about it, but you need respect first or you just look as much of a f*ckwit as Keys and Gray did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 April, 2012 Truelly enlightened then? No one is ever advocating bringing in 'a Doris' to change football - just that if 'a Doris' is the best qualified and most knowledgeable then she should be given the opportunity and not held back because of some archaic preconceptions and prejudices. Football is still full of racism, homophobia, sexism - not because of some testosterone fuelled ******** --- but simply because those that run it, work in it and support it have those attitudes - its says more about the ignorant attitudes of the average fan than anything else. No one wants positive discrimination, that ******** just sets things back further, and respect for ability and knowledge has to be earned - respect for women is something that should be a given and if most of the 18-30 lads are thinking about 'smashing her' - then they need to grow the feck up - all blokes think about sex, nothing feckin new or wronng there, but 'smashing' FFS... Yes the Chelsea physio is 'fit' - nowt wrong with acknowledgiung that - and there is nothing wrong with having a laugh about it, but you need respect first or you just look as much of a f*ckwit as Keys and Gray did. No they dont, they are totally normal. If you dont think about it then there is something wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 So you seriously think if a female manager managed a side none of the players would want to/ try to/ imagine smashing her? If I was a chairman I'd know that's how young, 18-30 lads think. Like it or not footballs about testosterone, chest thumping, aggression, competitiveness etc -.I want those attributes at saints, I see those attributes at saints, I wouldn't want some PC owner sack our manager and bring in a Doris to change that way of football. If she looked like Ann Widdlecombe, I suspect there may be some reluctance from the players in tupping her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 If she looked like Ann Widdlecombe, I suspect there may be some reluctance from the players in tupping her some would....to claim the prize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 A review in The Guardian... http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2012/apr/04/our-food-sexism-in-football Sexism in Football? Well, yes, which perhaps isn't surprising but that doesn't make it any less depressing. It's just a shame, given the subject, that they got this dumb, giggling, groomed-to-the-eyeballs, appearance-obsessed, flicky-haired blond bimbo on to talk about it. Actually, to be fair, Robbie Savage isn't that bad – he's open and honest, and at least he agreed to take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 If she looked like Ann Widdlecombe, I suspect there may be some reluctance from the players in tupping her I don't know, there's always one mate in the group who will do a rotter just for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 How can we have a female Prem manager when they can't even understand the offside rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 So you seriously think if a female manager managed a side none of the players would want to/ try to/ imagine smashing her? Maybe some of the gay footballers in our leagues imagine smashing their male managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 5 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 5 April, 2012 Maybe some of the gay footballers in our leagues imagine smashing their male managers? Maybe some players get picked because their gay managers imagine smashing them? Would explain a lot....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 April, 2012 Share Posted 5 April, 2012 Maybe some players get picked because their gay managers imagine smashing them? Would explain a lot....... Strachan and Telfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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