Sour Mash Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 If we hadn't missed a penalty and 2 absolute sitters in the first half then it would've. Unfortunately for us, we went to pieces after that and they never looked back. If I was facing Saints, I can't think of anything that would give me more of a buzz in the hour going into the game than hearing that Lambert isn't playing. Think I could live with making a couple of adjustments tactically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Yeah, it clearly threw Blackpool's game plan all over the place? Perhaps we should be more like Preston and tell the oppo the previous day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 It's not done for a mental boost. It's a tactical thing. Teams know full well our two main threats are Lambert and Lallana and will spend all week planning accordingly how to stop them. Players will have specific instructions and certain roles to play. Then to find out an hour before the game they're actually not playing is going to throw them. I like it that Adkins keeps his cards close to his chest and I don't understand why people on here think they have some divine right to be privy to the confidential going on's behind the scenes. Bet Blackpool knew Rickie was out a couple of minutes after he broke down in training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 It's not done for a mental boost. It's a tactical thing. Teams know full well our two main threats are Lambert and Lallana and will spend all week planning accordingly how to stop them. Players will have specific instructions and certain roles to play. Then to find out an hour before the game they're actually not playing is going to throw them. I like it that Adkins keeps his cards close to his chest and I don't understand why people on here think they have some divine right to be privy to the confidential going on's behind the scenes. Sorry but I think this is nonsense. Blackpool had a plan which was to stretch us wide and use pace to outflank us - and it generally worked. The failure of our backs and midfielders was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Sorry but I think this is nonsense. Blackpool had a plan which was to stretch us wide and use pace to outflank us - and it generally worked. The failure of our backs and midfielders was the problem. Of course they have their own plans, who said they didn't? But they would've also had set plans to combat Lambert. Imagine they would've spent a fair bit of time on them as well, what team wouldn't do their best to try and stop a 30 goal a season striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Obviously we had a plan to play against Kevin Phillips, their leading goalscorer but not against the 7 changes they made. Apart from RL, could we honestly make that amount of changes and actually play better, don't think our squad is as good or deep enough than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane d Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Everyones got a plan. We will win saturday with whoever is playing. COYR and if Rickie is fit, he will be starting. (he won't be on the bench, pointless if he comes on then get injured again. Waste of sub) Pompey are rubbish and we will win 3 nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Obviously we had a plan to play against Kevin Phillips, their leading goalscorer but not against the 7 changes they made. Apart from RL, could we honestly make that amount of changes and actually play better, don't think our squad is as good or deep enough than we think. So Blackpool`s squad/team is better than ours.....for this game they were better...over the season they were not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 It's not done for a mental boost. It's a tactical thing. Teams know full well our two main threats are Lambert and Lallana and will spend all week planning accordingly how to stop them. Players will have specific instructions and certain roles to play. Then to find out an hour before the game they're actually not playing is going to throw them. I like it that Adkins keeps his cards close to his chest and I don't understand why people on here think they have some divine right to be privy to the confidential going on's behind the scenes. It'll be the other way round. Pretend he isn't fit all week and that we're not sure he'll start, and opponents will get excited he isn't playing and presume the game will be easier (not that missing Rickie means it'll be easy at all for the skates) and then 45 mins to go, they'll find out he is playing, and then they'll all be on a massive downer. ha gutted in your face! etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 It's not done for a mental boost. It's a tactical thing. Teams know full well our two main threats are Lambert and Lallana and will spend all week planning accordingly how to stop them. Players will have specific instructions and certain roles to play. Then to find out an hour before the game they're actually not playing is going to throw them. I like it that Adkins keeps his cards close to his chest and I don't understand why people on here think they have some divine right to be privy to the confidential going on's behind the scenes. Agree, hopefully that article is just Saints being vague so the skates can't prepare. Billy Sharp poses a whole different type of threat to Lambert who has destroyed Pearce in the air every time he has been up against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I think we have more than emough firepower to handle portsmuff without risking SRL. Play Barnard and Sharp up front and put Guly on the right with freedom to wander. With Lallana on the other wing and both full backs pushing up we will rip them a new one. De Ridder and Puncheon on the bench to replace the wingers as they tire. Is Richardson fit for Saturday do we think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I think we have more than emough firepower to handle portsmuff without risking SRL. Play Barnard and Sharp up front and put Guly on the right with freedom to wander. With Lallana on the other wing and both full backs pushing up we will rip them a new one. De Ridder and Puncheon on the bench to replace the wingers as they tire. Is Richardson fit for Saturday do we think? That's just the thing, we never know who's fit and who isn't.Richardson ? who knows, last time we had any definite news Nigel said we were just "recovering him a bit".Since then zilch,same as i don't think there's been any official word from the club concerning Lee. All we know is that before the Hull (or was it Millwall) game Nigel said we had quite a few players playing on with knocks and niggles but that we have an excellent medical staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 We're going to have to nurse him through to the end of the season. If West Ham lose or only draw Fri, there's no point in risking him with palace and Reading to come. Yes , it may cost us a win against Skates, but all that matters is promotion. We want him fit for must win games, Sat's must win for the supporters, but if we are 5 or 6 points above WH, it's hardly must win in the grand scheme of things. What we dont want is a must win game against Middlesboro and Lambert not fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 We're going to have to nurse him through to the end of the season. If West Ham lose or only draw Fri, there's no point in risking him with palace and Reading to come. Yes , it may cost us a win against Skates, but all that matters is promotion. We want him fit for must win games, Sat's must win for the supporters, but if we are 5 or 6 points above WH, it's hardly must win in the grand scheme of things. What we dont want is a must win game against Middlesboro and Lambert not fit. Given out pretty patchy at best record away from home all season we need to be putting out our strongest possible team for all 3 home games. I would far rather if players had to be rested it was against Palace or the other 2 away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 My bum is squeaking as I read today's posts on this thread. Just thought I'd share that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I really doubt that if he's fit enough for the bench, he won't start. Adkins is not the type of manager to put unfit players on the bench, even if they have niggles. Presumably with the exception of Lallana earlier in the season and Richardson when he came on that one time...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Supporter Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Given out pretty patchy at best record away from home all season we need to be putting out our strongest possible team for all 3 home games. I would far rather if players had to be rested it was against Palace or the other 2 away games. Even though Saints are 5th in the 'Away' table (http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D1/away.html) and only W. Ham, Reading, Middlesborough and Burnley have won more away matches this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter We're going to have to nurse him through to the end of the season. If West Ham lose or only draw Fri, there's no point in risking him with palace and Reading to come. Yes , it may cost us a win against Skates, but all that matters is promotion. We want him fit for must win games, Sat's must win for the supporters, but if we are 5 or 6 points above WH, it's hardly must win in the grand scheme of things. What we dont want is a must win game against Middlesboro and Lambert not fit. Given out pretty patchy at best record away from home all season we need to be putting out our strongest possible team for all 3 home games. I would far rather if players had to be rested it was against Palace or the other 2 away games. Our record is not so patchy, but some of the performances behind that record certainly are. I agree that to concentrate on the home games could well maximise any possible returns, but a difficult game to play. It could be a big danger to play Ricky against either Pompey or Palace and if desperate, I would start him on the bench against pompey and use him if must. Against Palace I would be very tempted to leave him out and try and nick something going 451, even though I don't believe Adkins has ever set up 451 with us? I am torn between the duckshunters view and yours, both make sense and either could be right. We have to maximise Ricky for the rest of the season, not just one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2719583,00.html That sort of article doesn't fill me with confidence re Rickie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I reckon we will start with barny and sharp up front...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_disco123 Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Acording to a lot of pompey fans if lambert is injured then it makes the game 50/50? I dont know how one player makes that much diffirences but clearly they feel that if we dont have lambert we would lose? I still think its a whole tatical media phrase and that we will be seeing lambo and sharp up front banging them in for saterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 The fact club have made no comment on tadanari lee and having barnard do interview could all be part of the plan to deceive skates on our tactics and line up. If lee is really injured for 4 months why not just come out with it esp since it is in the public domain already. Wishful thinking I know but I wouldn't be at all surprised if lee played on sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 The fact club have made no comment on tadanari lee and having barnard do interview could all be part of the plan to deceive skates on our tactics and line up. If lee is really injured for 4 months why not just come out with it esp since it is in the public domain already. Wishful thinking I know but I wouldn't be at all surprised if lee played on sat. We may have the play offs in mind and rest our players for that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Guly is going to get a hat trick. I hope so just to shut a lot of people up and get them off his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I hope so just to shut a lot of people up and get them off his back. Concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 (edited) Acording to a lot of pompey fans if lambert is injured then it makes the game 50/50? I dont know how one player makes that much diffirences but clearly they feel that if we dont have lambert we would lose? I still think its a whole tatical media phrase and that we will be seeing lambo and sharp up front banging them in for saterday! He makes a huge difference to us, and it does increase their chances of getting something by a large % if he's not fit. Our entire game plan is focused around him and our attack does not function correctly without Lambert, not a single bit. He's got a terrific relationship with the full backs, Lallana and Guly when he plays - it's kind of telepathic at times and as he's barley missed a game for us we clearly don't have a clue what to do when he's not in the team, as we haven't really prepared for that eventuality too much - which is fair I guess, why waste time preparing for worst? Hopefully though as we're at home we can get the ball down a bit and pass it, we shouldn't need to hit it long - although you'd have to say that alot of our success comes from that long ball held up and laid off by Rickie... 10 assists and 28 goals in all comps tell you that he's involved in almost half our goals this year. Scary. Edited 3 April, 2012 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 April, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2012 I hope so just to shut a lot of people up and get them off his back. This is make or break time for Guly. If he put's in another lazy performance he'll well and truely lose the support of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Alot of the Guly criticism is unjustified too, especially the lazy comments. He worked harder than most at the weekend. But as i've said, some people have made their mind up about him....and that's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 what will do my head in...is if lambert is not playing and we start punting it up to the strikers constantly..or long hollywood balls to them...aint going to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 We're going to have to nurse him through to the end of the season. If West Ham lose or only draw Fri, there's no point in risking him with palace and Reading to come. Yes , it may cost us a win against Skates, but all that matters is promotion. We want him fit for must win games, Sat's must win for the supporters, but if we are 5 or 6 points above WH, it's hardly must win in the grand scheme of things. What we dont want is a must win game against Middlesboro and Lambert not fit. Strongly disagree with this. Most likely, we need six more points to get promoted (that would leave West Ham needing W 4 D 1 L 1 to overtake us). The two most winnable games are Pmouth and Coventry. If Lambert can only play two more games this season, these are the two I want him to play. That's nothing to do with the rivalry, it's just the maths. Blackpool was our toughest remaining fixture of our last 7 games, so if RL was 50-50, it made sense to rest him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 If Guly rushes around all over the place, even if he's like a headless chicken, some critics will be happy that he's making an effort and not being lazy. He's a Brazilian! they just don't play that way, get used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 If Guly rushes around all over the place, even if he's like a headless chicken, some critics will be happy that he's making an effort and not being lazy. He's a Brazilian! they just don't play that way, get used to it! Most Brazilian's (you've seen) get away with playing that way because they are good footballers and are good technically, Guly is sh*te and makes no effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Alot of the Guly criticism is unjustified too, especially the lazy comments. He worked harder than most at the weekend. But as i've said, some people have made their mind up about him....and that's that. Equally some people have watched him for a long time and have seen a lot of performances that have frustrated them. Just because a select few are too critical does not make those who criticise him fairly any less valid with their criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 what will do my head in...is if lambert is not playing and we start punting it up to the strikers constantly..or long hollywood balls to them...aint going to work Yes. Fox has done this when he has played badly and I really really hope he doesn't. Without Lee or Lambert I pray we just play it on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Yes. Fox has done this when he has played badly and I really really hope he doesn't. Without Lee or Lambert I pray we just play it on the ground. Why is everyone so sure rickie will be out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Guly is sh*te and makes no effort. you may not rate him, obviously, but you can not say he makes no effort. That is just plain wrong. Watch a few videos on saints player and see the amount of closing down he does and chasing the ball down, particulalry earlier in the season when NA used to mention it constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 you may not rate him, obviously, but you can not say he makes no effort. That is just plain wrong. Watch a few videos on saints player and see the amount of closing down he does and chasing the ball down, particulalry earlier in the season when NA used to mention it constantly. Spot on. Guly is a good player, be fine for the bench if we make prem imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 April, 2012 Share Posted 3 April, 2012 Why is everyone so sure rickie will be out? People are discussing the possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Guly suffers from Kenwyne Jones syndrome, in that he has a naturally languid lolloping stride and so looks a lot lazier than he is. David Connolly on the other hand because he's 5'6 tends to scuttle around and look useful no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Guly suffers from Kenwyne Jones syndrome, in that he has a naturally languid lolloping stride and so looks a lot lazier than he is. David Connolly on the other hand because he's 5'6 tends to scuttle around and look useful no matter what Interesting., my Mrs reckons I'm lazy round the house, I'm going to tell her being 6ft I just look lazy. If I was 5ft 6 she wouldn't keep nagging me....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Most Brazilian's (you've seen) get away with playing that way because they are good footballers and are good technically, Guly is sh*te and makes no effort. Sorry mush!! but there is no nice way to put this but you are a first class k n o b head....utterly cluless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 It worries me we have a group of fans who constantly find fault in our players. just look on recent threads Guly Sharp Barnard etc etc etc What will it take to make you guys happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 It worries me we have a group of fans who constantly find fault in our players. just look on recent threads Guly Sharp Barnard etc etc etc What will it take to make you guys happy? It's the Southampton way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 It worries me we have a group of fans who constantly find fault in our players. just look on recent threads Guly Sharp Barnard etc etc etc What will it take to make you guys happy? Have you considered the possibility that there are valid criticisms for certain players? Certainly Guly has done a lot wrong this year in certain games and for me, Sharp has been pretty disappointing since he was signed. Barnard hasn't had much of a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Depends on your outlook - sure we have players whose technical skill, and performance is less consistent than others, and even some that we know wont make the grade in the prem, or even give the impression of not 'caring' about things as much - some will find a reason here to publically criticise...... Others (maybe more enlightened IMHO) will say simply they are OUR players, they are wearing OUR colours, As a unit, as a squad they have us sat top of the championship with 6 games to go, depsite some below par performances both from individuals and the squad as a whole... so TBH they have achieved great things these last two seasons - as justified as some may feel to 'have an indepth analysis of the pros and cons, good versus ****e about individuals, I am not convinced its particlualry helpful when we KNOW that our success to date has in part alos been based on squad UNITY FFS - its been based on a simple fact that the team is greater than the sum of its parts. We stand together and fall togther, and given the added pressures and challenges of the run, I am not sure teh timing is great to be slagging players - surely leave that for the closed season, transfer threads and focus now on getting behind every last one of them, whoever is slected and whoever plays a part - the platform they have created means they deserve that at the very least - TOGETHER we get over the line, the moment we get nervous, it spills over. The moment we criticise individuals it plants teh seeds of doubt in that unity of spirit.... so IMHO Lets all STFU with teh criticisms till we get to the end of April and then deal those issues if you really must, whilst teh rest of us will be celebrating promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Most Brazilian's (you've seen) get away with playing that way because they are good footballers and are good technically, Guly is sh*te and makes no effort. mong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Somebody get on twitter and ask one of the players if Rickys ok.I simply have to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Somebody get on twitter and ask one of the players if Rickys ok.I simply have to know. as if they'll reply to that with a straight yes or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 Hypo yes I have considerd the players performance. but we do have a habit on here of criticising players even when we are winning week in week out. I like Guly he is a skillfull player I wished he would find the net a bit more frequently. but I am not going to chastise him Billy or any player just becuase it seems a cool thing to do. The coaching squad rate them other wise they wouldnt select them. Do we know how richardson and connolly are and how far they are away from returning to the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk Posted 4 April, 2012 Share Posted 4 April, 2012 as if they'll reply to that with a straight yes or no. Worth a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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