saintant Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I notice Jack Cork has claimed the Blackpool pitch was boggy. It did seem soft and our players were slipping all over the place at times. Has there been a lot of rain in Blackpool? If so it must be the only place in the country that has avoided the current drought. If I was playing the devil's advocate I might put forward a theory that maybe Holloway ordered the ground staff to over water it so that it wasn't conducive to our passing game. Surely that wouldn't happen...would it? Just my conspiracy theory as to why a pitch should be deemed boggy during one of the worst droughts in recent history. Must be selling a lot of brollies in Blackpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 The pitch was shocking and imo it was the primary cause of our poor play yesterday, we struggled on a poor pitch against Millwall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Didn't stop Blackpool playing their passing game. The difference was we played quite narrow & they played with width & tore us apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 They were watering the pitch for a couple of hours before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Didn't stop Blackpool playing their passing game. The difference was we played quite narrow & they played with width & tore us apart! what passing game...they hit the wings constantly...it worked for them yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Oh thats why guly and sharp were ****, of course there ability is so reliant on nice pitches, i played on a poor pitch yday yes it played a part but il still played crap the pitch just made it worse, for me pitch does effect the game but if your good enough then you should be able to adapt for amateur players like some of us probs takes us 30-35mins, but pros at this level should adapt within 10-15 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Clubs routinely over water pitches to thwart superior skill visiting teams it's the oldest trick in the book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 The pitch was poor and might have hindered our ability to move the ball quickly but it wasn't the reason why we lost the match. Players of superior technical ability ought to be able to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Can't be doing with listening to excuses about the pitch. If it was so bad, why did Blackpool not struggle? We are able to mix it up in boggy pitches, but unfortunately it seems that we can only mix it up when Lambert is in the team - without him we just hit pointless long balls which aren't being controlled, held up or moved on. We needed to stretch the game yesterday so we could get in behind them and so we could combat their width, but we didn't. We stuck to a diamond and long balls without Lambert, which is game over pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Didn't stop Blackpool playing their passing game. The difference was we played quite narrow & they played with width & tore us apart!How did the pitch affect the 2nd goal, true route one stuff. Pitch looked awful on tv though, not sure about boggy, but very bumpy with lots of divots. No excuse for shocking performance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Clubs routinely over water pitches to thwart superior skill visiting teams it's the oldest trick in the book... When we played Man U and beat them 1-0 a few years back Man U players commented that the pitch at SMS was running slow, that was because Strachan had told the groundstaff not to cut or water the grass prior to the game and had the team training on it in preparation for a slightly slower run of the ball. Looking at the bare patch next to the goal yesterday it didn't look too clever. Still at the same time we played like strangers at times looked a re run of Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I thought the pitch looked awful as if it had been prepared to thwart us . It looked bumpy amongst other things . I thought it was the pitch till the change the first ball . After that we still could get hold of the ball correctly and pass and control as well as we normally do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 No excuses against Pompey then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I heard Birmingham added snow on there's to stop us passing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Didn't stop Blackpool playing their passing game. The difference was we played quite narrow & they played with width & tore us apart! whenever a side has wingers that know roughly what they're doing we struggle.Our full backs aren't good enough defensively and the midfield has to help them out thus detracting from their own role. I mentioned this in the build up thread and of course got regally slagged off.Perhaps it would have been a bit different if we'd had Frazer available but playing Butterfield against Ince and Phillips who are interchageable was frankly suicidal.No doubt Chaplow was drafted in to help on that side but as his tackling is horrendous and he has no pace it didn't help very much.De Ridder has few defensive qualities so all in all the cards were always going to be stacked against us once Butterfield was in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Actually if it was that bad: how at 3-0 down did we have stats showing we had 64% possession! That should equate to total annihilation of the opposition on Paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I thought the pitch looked awful as if it had been prepared to thwart us . It looked bumpy amongst other things . I thought it was the pitch till the change the first ball . After that we still could get hold of the ball correctly and pass and control as well as we normally do Not having the benefit of seeing the match it's just a supposition but could the pitch have been doctored in the mid section and left dryer on the wings where it's known that we don't play much generally and even less with Butterfield in the side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Actually if it was that bad: how at 3-0 down did we have stats showing we had 64% possession! That should equate to total annihilation of the opposition on Paper they probably just kept us at arms length as we were pretty inefficient in the last 20 yards anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Actually if it was that bad: how at 3-0 down did we have stats showing we had 64% possession! That should equate to total annihilation of the opposition on Paper id suggest that it was that most of our possession was back passes and long punts forward, the pitch stopped the one touch control and turn to be able to play the ball forward with any class. this doesnt change the fact that the players didnt look bothered, mostly put in very little effort and that butterfield played like his legs were no longer able to play football, what foxs excuse was i dont know and question marks surely have to start being asked about the purchase of sharpe,he is not showing signs of fitting into the saints style of play hopefully just a bad day at the office and not a sign of a new slump in form due to nerves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I notice Jack Cork has claimed the Blackpool pitch was boggy. It did seem soft and our players were slipping all over the place at times. Has there been a lot of rain in Blackpool? If so it must be the only place in the country that has avoided the current drought. If I was playing the devil's advocate I might put forward a theory that maybe Holloway ordered the ground staff to over water it so that it wasn't conducive to our passing game. Surely that wouldn't happen...would it? Just my conspiracy theory as to why a pitch should be deemed boggy during one of the worst droughts in recent history. Must be selling a lot of brollies in Blackpool. I wondered if he really meant bobbly rather then boggy, but got his worms mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 How did the pitch affect the 2nd goal, true route one stuff. Pitch looked awful on tv though, not sure about boggy, but very bumpy with lots of divots. No excuse for shocking performance though. When jos stops doing the basics like winning a long punt down field or trying to second guess where a corners gonna go we're always gonna gift the opo simple chances. Incidently their 3rd goal shouldn't have been a corner IMO, sure it came off baptist's nogin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Is that why we didn't score the penalty, or didn't mark for the third goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acersaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Didn't stop Blackpool playing their passing game. The difference was we played quite narrow & they played with width & tore us apart! Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 When jos stops doing the basics like winning a long punt down field or trying to second guess where a corners gonna go we're always gonna gift the opo simple chances. Incidently their 3rd goal shouldn't have been a corner IMO, sure it came off baptist's nogin. Jos has been ill this week, some other players too apparently.Maybe there were a few just running on empty yesterday,it happens even with pros with big medical structures behind them.We needed to score the penalty,that would have made everything more rosy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 we were well beaten and got what we desereved however, there's was never ever a penalty...but I'm sure we have had a fortunate one given to us in the past this seas their 3rd came from a corner that never should have been given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 we were well beaten and got what we desereved however, there's was never ever a penalty...but I'm sure we have had a fortunate one given to us in the past this seas their 3rd came from a corner that never should have been given Fonte against Brighton springs to mind. Anyway can't change owt so onto the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Yes we were well beaten and should have adapted to the pitch quicker . The pitch was bad all the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 I heard Birmingham added snow on there's to stop us passing too. Luvit...!! Both teams played on the same pitch - one coped, the other didn't. No matter the state of the pitch, if the ref deems it playable, you have to adapt your tactics and approach to suit the conditions. They did, we didn't - we got stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 The pitch was awful and made life more difficult. Blackpool are no mugs and deserved the points though. No excuses against the DSBs next week. Ricky back, a perfect pitch, good weather forecast ... COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 For information, it's hardly rained at all for the last fortnight up here, ( and they even continued the watering at half time ). Most of the BFC fans continually joke about playing in a sandpit, and they do of course play on it for half their games, whereas each opposition team only gets one chance. Don't think for a minute that the pitch had anything to do with the result, we were poor, they were just a bit better - and the officials were shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 We could've been playing on a bowling green and they would still have murdered us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 We could've been playing on a bowling green and they would still have murdered us. We do play on a bowling green every home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 We do play on a bowling green every home game. And our superieority is usually remarkable. Yesterday was about knackerdness and a missed penalty. Why did we go there on a coach? aren't we jetsetters any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulstersaint Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 Blackpool played Philips and Ince for width and from when the teamsheet was announced it was obvious we would face problems on the wings - but we left our full backs were exposed. As Dave Merrington frequently laments, we are too narrow and need width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 . Why did we go there on a coach? aren't we jetsetters any more.I thought they flew to Manchester? As for the pitch, it was the same for both teams. Blackpool used it to their advantage and we didn't adjust (or turn up!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 April, 2012 Share Posted 1 April, 2012 They flew to Manchester going up but got the coach home I believe. As for the pitch, it was absolutely terrible. I wasn't far from pitch level and the ball was taking at least 4 or 5 bobbles on each pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 2 April, 2012 Share Posted 2 April, 2012 The pitch did have some bearing on the game but not all. Blackpool played better on it as they are simply used to playing on it, just as we are on the great pitch at SMS. This made it difficult for us to control the ball as we would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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